Linux-Misc Digest #963, Volume #18 Tue, 9 Feb 99 11:13:13 EST
Contents:
Re: Kernel 2.2.1 (Lyle Taylor)
Re: Annoying problem trying to make boot disks with yard... (Tom Fawcett)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Jerry McBride)
Re: Linux Partition......HELP! (Joseph D. Carpenter)
Icons in KDE ("Steve D. Perkins")
Re: use theramin as input device ("Bill Lewis")
Re: Unzip (Mark Brown)
Re: good book for beginner? (Friar ED)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (TB)
Re: Only one browser for linux? ("Steve D. Perkins")
Re: PPP Dialers (Lyle Taylor)
Re: ide tape with taper? (Lyle Taylor)
CPU 0.1% idle after X login by root ? (Y W Wong)
Re: When the next version of different distributions will be released (David Steuber)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Max F Lang)
Re: FIXED!! X slow because can't get TCP/IP connect???? (Nicolas Christin)
Re: Small version of Linux (John Hasler)
Re: KDE vs xterm backspace and scroll bar? (Lyle Taylor)
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From: Lyle Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.1
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:08:27 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why did you put Kernel 2.2.1 as the subject of the message, when it
seems that the message has nothing to do with Kernel 2.2.1? Just
wondering.
Anyway, I had a few of the same problems, and they appear to be fixed.
Although, to be honest, I don't know what fixed them. The only thing
that I _might_ be able to help you about is StarOffice. Have you
updated your 1.3 upgrade with the update downloads from Caldera? I had
the same problem with StarOffice, and think it was related to two
problems: X11 compatability, and Glibc2. Try rerunning the glibc2
install script from the StarOffice installation stuff. After that, you
might try moving the X11 libs out of the StarOffice library directory so
that it links to the system's X11 libs. StarOffice is working for me
now, but I don't know for sure if what I did there cured it, or if it
was something else. I feel stupid for saying that, but it's true. I
was stumped.
Anyway, that's just an idea.
Good luck,
Lyle
Johnny Stork wrote:
>
> I just upgraded to Kernel 2.0 something (Caldera Linux 1.3) and although the
> compile and loading the Kernel seem to be fine, a couple of things cropped
> up. (KDE as wm and XFree 3.3.3)
>
> 1: In xconfig Kernel settings, the section Console has most of the video
> boards greyed out including the Millenium 11 which I am running?
>
> 2: Two error message come up on boot about missing files.
>
> /ect/rc.d/rc.boot: /proc/sys/Kernel/file-max: no such file or directory
> /ect/rc.d/rc.boot: /proc/sys/Kernel/inode-max: no such file or directory
>
> I checked and these files dont exist??
>
> 3: StarOffice will not start up now
>
> 4: Most important, now when I run kppp and try an internet connection, it
> dials, and starts to log in and then gives back a message about "pppd daemon
> quiting unexpectedly" or something.
>
> 5: One last thing which also occured under previous Kernel. When I ran the
> KDE programs memory info it works fine and shows me total mem, cached,
> swapped ect. When I run the processor info app (while mem info is running),
> nothing starts but the unused memory starts to get eaten up until it is
> pretty much all used up? A ps shows that the mem info app is running and I
> have to kill the process before all my ram gets eaten??
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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Annoying problem trying to make boot disks with yard...
Date: 09 Feb 1999 08:34:38 -0500
John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I did look at the on-line documentation on your yard home
> page but found nothing obviously relating to errors I was
> receiving or suggesting that a newer version might fix
> whatever problems I have. I will confess that I may not be
> the most astute linux user, but I am trying in my own clumsy
> way.
>
> Did I miss something?
The problems you're running into were fixed several versions back. I'll
admit it's probably not obvious from the WHATSNEW file that this problem
was fixed. But in general it's a good idea to upgrade to the latest
version of a piece of software if you're running into bugs.
Yard-1.17 should work fine with bzImages (works with mine). If you still
have a problem, you may have found a new bug, but I'll need more
information.
-Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry McBride)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 08:05:46 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Keith Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>>>Sorry, the idea of Bill Gates having sex just does not compute.
>>>
>>>then how did he become a father?
>>
>
>
>Well, much as this is a "make-fun-of-Bill" thread, I have to point to the
>Jerry Springer show. I think you'll agree that given the number of simply
>ugly people involved in sex triangles these days, an average-looking guy
>like Bill Gates wouldn't have THAT much trouble finding sex...
>
>:)
>
>
Not that a little money wouldn't hurt either...
--
/--------------------\
| Jerry McBride |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
\--------------------/
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From: Joseph D. Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Partition......HELP!
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 04:06:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>ImY2Kool wrote:
>>
>> ok im prepaining to install redhat linux on the same box that I have
windows 98
>> on. I need to Re-Partition for both windows and linux without losing any
thing
>> that i alreay have. I have a 8 gig HD and at the moment im not sure how
much is
>> in use (for some reason windows DriveSpace only shows me as have a 2 gig
HD
>> and that 0% of it is in use I am trying to fix it) when I run FDisk that
was
>> included in my linux distrubition it the only choice i have for second
>> partition is 977 cylinder. im not sure whare that puts me and if it will
be
>> enuf to run windows in.
>>
>
>First run defrag with the "arrange my programs so the load faster"
>option turned OFF.
>
>next use FIPS (on Rh cd) or partiton magic or whatever to split your
>partion into
>two smaller ones.
I have Windows 3.1, '95 and Linux 5.2 on the same machine. I used Partition
Magic to partition, and System Commander fot booting. Works fine except it
hides the partitions not being used, when booting a particular system. Also
you have to make two primary partitions, very difficult with Dos fdisk.
Later,
Joe
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Icons in KDE
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 04:14:51 +0000
Someone the other day emailed me a KDE icon for WordPerfect after I
had asked about it in a newsgroup. I copied it into what I believe is
the default directory KDE stores its icons in (/opt/kde/share/icons)...
and tried to change the icon I'm using for WordPerfect over to this new
one.
However, this icon does not show up at all in the icons-available
window under the Menu Editor when I go to change it. Just be anal, I
tried copying it as well to the personal (.kde) directory location in my
home directory... and it didn't work from there. Is there something
special you have to do to "register" icons other than just copying them
into the proper directory, or some other kind of step that I'm missing?
Steve
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From: "Bill Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: use theramin as input device
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:13:37 -0500
One was used for the theme music on Dark Shadows.
/bill
Matthias Warkus wrote in message ...
>It was the Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:25:05 GMT...
>..and John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[Theremin a/k/a etherophone a/k/a Thereminovox]
>> Allen Crider writes:
>> > Do you mean that '50s sci-fi sound machine?
>>
>> No. He means the '20s musical instrument.
>
>No. He means the wailing thing that goes "wee-ooo-wee-ooo" in
>_Good_Vibrations_ by the Beach Boys.
>
>SCNR
>
>mawa
>--
>Matthias Warkus | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Dyson Spheres for sale!
>It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR
>actually lowers your social status...
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From: Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unzip
Date: 08 Feb 1999 00:58:51 +0000
Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a program that unzip .zip files? Gzip does not work.
There is, and it's called unzip :-) . The source is distributed from
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/info-zip/src/ , although all the distributions
I've met provide packages.
--
Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness)
http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/
EUFS http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
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From: Friar ED <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: good book for beginner?
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:50:11 GMT
That's what I'm doing...works fine so far :)
"Chad M. Townsend" wrote:
> Step 1. Get a intel machine and install Linux, I recommened redhat at
> http://www.redhat.com, buy the software instead of FTP'n it
> down, this way you have the CD and a book. Or get a book from
> the book store, most Linux Books ... Linux Unleashed have a
> CD in the back.
> Step 2. Start playing with the OS, don't be afraid to screw up the
> computer ... all you have to do is re-install and start over.
>
> Setp 3. Repeat Step 2.
>
> -chad
>
> In article <79le0l$q99$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Can someone please recommend some good books for a Linux newbie? I've read
> > a lot of good reviews about "Running Linux" by ORA. Are there any other
> > good beginner books which are more recent?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Chad M. Townsend Virtual Community Network, Inc.
> Chief Technical Officer Your Local Community Online!
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 09:49:58 -0800
From: TB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
....so, any easy resolution to setting up a modem to dial an ISP? After
scanning countless books, I still can not get a dial tone. PPP is installed.
It does raise an interesting opportunity for a wizbang programmer to whip up a
foolproof modem diag program for the willing masses trying to exit MS
Jim Ross wrote:
> Matthew Vanecek wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Jeremy Crabtree wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim Ross allegedly wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Jeremy Crabtree wrote in message ...
> >> >>Jim Ross allegedly wrote:
> >>
> >> [SNIP...for brevity]
> >>
> >> > I set up PPP in Win95, 98, NT, so the setting aren't
> >> >the problem. I should post to see if someone knows, but I don't even
> get
> >> >the initial text in a terminal so it doesn't even necessarily relate to
> PPP
> >> >itself maybe. PPP is hard as you say, most OSes have a hard time
> getting it
> >> >all going right.
> >>
> >> This brings up an interesting question, WHY is it so difficult to do
> >> 'right'?
> >>
> >> [SNIP]
> >>
> >
> >I've never had a hard time getting it right. I've configured ppp on 3
> >operating systems and two different distributions of Linux, on several
> >boxes, with a couple of different kinds of modems. In Linux, I've never
> >had to install a modem driver. Not so in MS world. I've installed
> >drivers several different times in Windows. What's up with that? As
> >long as your Linux kernel is configured to support ppp, and your modem
> >is set up properly (basically, you only need to have /dev/ttySX set to
> >the right port; which is usually automagically done, anyhow). Beyond
> >that, the GUI conf tools do the job in a snap, although with EZPPP/KPPP
> >you should read the EZPPP HOWTO. (e.g., with those tools, did you make
> >sure that /etc/ppp/options existed but was empty?).
>
> Yes.
>
> >
> >I'm not anything special, not a genius or anything, but I've never had a
> >problem getting ppp to work properly. I can't understand why other
> >people make it such a chore; it's really not.
>
> Yes. It either works or it doesn't.
>
> In my case in NT it does and in Linux it doesn't.
> In the past I set up KPPP and it did connect, at 9600bps though.
> Now not at all.
> I don't even get text in the terminal window, so this problem seems to be
> even before PPP or anything.
> It get a single line that keeps running which is basically
> PP P | |P | || P P P P | P
> I have no clue what is up with this.
> Has anyone seen anything like this?
> Thanks, Jim
> >
> >
> >--
> >Matthew Vanecek
> >Studies in Business Computers at the University of North Texas
> >http://www.unt.edu/bcis
> >Visit my Website at http://people.unt.edu/~mev0003
> >*****************************************************************
> >For 93 million miles, there is nothing between the sun and my shadow
> >except me. I'm always getting in the way of something...
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only one browser for linux?
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 04:26:02 +0000
Sigh... why is it that when people respond to a posting of mine with some
really important or critical information to offer, they just post it the
thread... whereas when people feel like responding to my idle chatter with some
information that I already know about, they have to post it AND email me a copy
(most of the times two or three copies because they don't know how to use their
newsreader software properly! <smile>)?
I grasped the concept of Java-is-crossplatform-but-you-have-to-have-a-JVM
about three years ago... my point is why do they still have different ports of
all their applications available for download? Nowhere on Sun's site can you
just download the class files needed to run HotJava on the JVM you already have
installed... you have to choose the port for you operating system that has the
appropriate JRE bundled in again.
That's not cross-platform, that's just another several megabytes tacked on
to everything you have to download... in the name of making things easier for
developers. Sorry developers... but the world never has, doesn't, and never
will want to go out of its way to make things easier for you at its expense!
<smile>
Steve
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From: Lyle Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP Dialers
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:50:40 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> HI people ... I am currently using Redhat 5.1
>
> and I was wondering if there are any other PPP dialers on the net like Kppp ?
>
> and .. anyone using Afterstep ??
>
> Alvin
>
> ‰
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
There's XISP, although, I'm not sure where to download it from. I've
used it, but like Kppp much better.
Lyle
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From: Lyle Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ide tape with taper?
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:22:09 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You need to upgrade to kernel 2.0.35 or 2.0.36. I would recommend
2.0.36 as there is a bug in the lp driver in 2.0.35 that will make you
wait forever for printouts. My HP Colorado 5GB works under Linux, but
not well with BRU 2000 (yet). I used another backup utility OK, though.
Good luck,
Lyle
John Thompson wrote:
>
> After poking through dejanews I decided that I should be
> able to use an HP-Colorado 5GB IDE tape drive with linux.
> Other people have reported it to work, anyway. Well, I have
> it installed now, and my kernel(2.0.34)/modules compiled for
> IDE tape support but it doesn't work. The drive is detected
> at boot time but I get a message that the drive is not
> supported:
>
> hda: WDC AC26400B, 6149MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=784/255/63,
> UDMA
> hdc: 36X CD-ROM, ATAPI CDROM drive
> hdd: HP COLORADO 5GB, ATAPI TAPE driveide-tape: Sorry, DRQ
> types other than Accelerated DRQ
> ide-tape: are still not supported by the driver
> ide-tape: the tape is not supported by this version of the
> driver
>
> OK, fine. Maybe I can use SCSI emulation to get it to
> work. Compile up the needed stuff, it seem OK at boot:
>
> scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
> scsi : 1 host.
> scsi : detected total.
>
> But no joy. If I try to use taper (my prefered software)
> with switches for SCSI it dies whenever I try anything:
>
> "Operation not supported by device while opening backup
> device"
>
> Has anybody managed to get this stuff to work? Is there a
> newer version of the IDEtape driver that supports this
> device? If so, where?
>
> --
>
> -John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Y W Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: CPU 0.1% idle after X login by root ?
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:06:48 +0800
The CPU states shown 0.1% idle after using X-Term to login to my Linux
box.
The "top" result is as follow :-
[root@gpus1 wong]# top
9:18am up 31 days, 15:14, 2 users, load average: 1.08, 1.17, 1.17
49 processes: 46 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 98.9% user, 1.1% system, 0.0% nice, 0.1% idle
Mem: 63140K av, 37628K used, 25512K free, 25632K shrd, 17908K buff
Swap: 68508K av, 2788K used, 65720K free 7908K
cached
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME
COMMAND
21640 root 17 0 1640 1640 1244 R 0 98.1 2.5 5528m
control-panel
22660 root 3 0 712 712 548 R 0 1.7 1.1 0:00 top
22644 root 0 0 684 684 528 R 0 0.1 1.0 0:00
in.telnetd
1 root 0 0 336 324 264 S 0 0.0 0.5 0:07 init
2 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 1:01
kflushd
[root@gpus1 wong]# kill 21640
[root@gpus1 wong]# top
9:18am up 31 days, 15:15, 2 users, load average: 0.91, 1.12, 1.16
48 processes: 47 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 0.9% user, 0.7% system, 0.0% nice, 98.3% idle
Mem: 63140K av, 37232K used, 25908K free, 24392K shrd, 17908K buff
Swap: 68508K av, 2788K used, 65720K free 7924K
cached
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME
COMMAND
22661 root 11 0 712 712 548 R 0 1.7 1.1 0:00 top
1 root 0 0 336 324 264 S 0 0.0 0.5 0:07 init
2 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 1:01
kflushd
3 root -12 -12 0 0 0 SW< 0 0.0 0.0 0:01
kswapd
Why the control-panel take 98% of the CPU resources even I have already
logout
from a remote X-Term ? ( Resource cannot release )
Is it a bug of Linux xdm ?
Y W Wong
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: When the next version of different distributions will be released
Date: 07 Feb 1999 13:48:12 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
-> It was the 05 Feb 1999 16:13:52 -0500...
-> ...and Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-> > "Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
-> >
-> > > RedHat 5.2 and SuSE 6.0 are 2.2.0-ready (and they are available now). Not
-> > > sure about other distros.
-> >
-> > I don't know about S.U.S.E, but RedHat 5.2 is not completely 2.2.0 ready.
->
-> Neither is SuSE - at least in theory (modutils, procps and util-linux
-> are not up-to-date).
->
-> In practice, it runs 2.2.0 Just Fine(TM).
I'm running SuSE 5.3. I built 2.2.1 and I am running it right now.
It is not trouble free. APM is not working and I have some odd
networking problems. APM is almost certainly a bug in either my
config or in 2.2.1 itself. As for networking, I don't know if it is
the fault of 2.2.1 or pcmcia 3.0.8.
One nice feature of Linux (and Unixen in general) is the ability to
have more than one bootable kernal image. I still have the 2.0.35
kernel that came with SuSE 5.3 which does work with APM and
networking. So it isn't as if I am crippled or anything.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
When will Altoids be available in 'extra strength'?
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From: Max F Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:19:34 GMT
Keith Peterson wrote:
>
> >>>Sorry, the idea of Bill Gates having sex just does not compute.
> >>
> >>then how did he become a father?
It's not the sex part that bothers me about BG's becoming a father, but
that he could ever accept the role as one. In the 80's among OS/2
developer groups it was pretty well known that BG -hated- children,
esspecially babies. Couldn't stand to be around them. Now he has two(?).
MFLang
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From: Nicolas Christin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FIXED!! X slow because can't get TCP/IP connect????
Date: 08 Feb 1999 23:39:58 -0500
Well, I agree with Paul, X shouldn't need a network to work on a standalone
machine. However, if you really want to work on a network, without
experiencing too much lag, I recommand sxpc - it's a X protocol compressor,
and works just fine.
--
Nicolas Christin
Grad. Student and Research Assistant - UVa. - CS Dept.
Web: http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~nc2y/
``Stop the machine...'' (Girls Against Boys - "Bulletproof Cupid")
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small version of Linux
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 03:52:09 GMT
Andrew Comech writes:
> You did not mention -- is there a hard drive? To install e.g. Debian you
> need I guess 8 floppies,...
Only if you have no CDROM drive, no modem, no network connection, and no
way to make a network or ppp connection to a computer that does.
> ...4MB of RAM, and at least 20-30 MB of hard drive.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Lyle Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE vs xterm backspace and scroll bar?
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:44:55 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xterms don't have scroll bars by default. To enable it, use `xterm
-sb`. As for the delete key, etc., you can configure that using stty.
For example, to set the backspace key, you would use `stty erase <key>`
or something to that effect.
Lyle
Leslie Mikesell wrote:
>
> I just installed KDE and generally like it, but why does it keep
> xterms from having scroll bars and turn the backspace key into
> delete? And how do I undo it - the dozens of screens to customize
> the desktop stuff don't seem to mention this?
>
> Les Mikesell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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