Linux-Misc Digest #963, Volume #27 Sun, 27 May 01 22:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: kernel 2.4.5 crashes on Mandrake 8 but 2.4.4 and 2.4.3 works ("Jim Brooks")
pcmcia issue (Shore Linux Solutions)
Re: linux ("bowman")
Re: FTP Question RH 7.1 (Dean Thompson)
Re: How to format a Floppy Disk (Frank Ranner)
Re: pcmcia issue (Tony Curtis)
Re: linux (Christopher Fairbairn)
Re: pci modem driver (LT) for Linux wanted (Dances With Crows)
Why won't my RH 7.1 box reboot? ("George Adams")
Re: linux ("Jay")
compile problem (Erik Svenkerud)
Re: Latest version of Linux (Dances With Crows)
Javadoc runtime problems (Christopher Fairbairn)
Re: how to connect to internet in non-X ("Jay")
Re: Java support for Opera ("Jay")
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From: "Jim Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: kernel 2.4.5 crashes on Mandrake 8 but 2.4.4 and 2.4.3 works
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 01:12:01 GMT
"Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> i just built 2.4.5 on my mandrake 8 dist.
> it crashes within a second.
>
> intel CUV4X-D, 1GB, 2 P3 1Ghz processors, noapic, MIPS1.1.
>
>
> "Jim Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
> > Kernel 2.4.5 on Mandrake 8 crashed my PC early in boot,
> > when the swapper process was being started (I think).
> >
> > The default 2.4.3 kernel boots OK, and so does a 2.4.4 kernel
> > I built myself (had to update /boot/initrd*.img with 2.4.4's reiserfs.o).
> >
> > Anyone else having problems with 2.4.5?
2.4.5 crashed within a few seconds on my system.
2.4.5-ac1 (Alan Cox's latest patch) runs fine on my system.
--
Jim Brooks jjiimm-AT-jjiimmbbrrookkss-DOT-oorrgg
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From: Shore Linux Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pcmcia issue
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:17:51 -0400
I recently installed rh 7.1 on a laptop. Apparently it sucessfully
detected my pcmcia modem/network card (zircom cardbus 56k). However now
each time I reboot it is telling me the card has been removed but the
card is still actually in. Also I am unsure of what exactly to do to
get pcmcia working.
This is my first install on a laptop. Could someone please give me some
instructions on how or what I must do. Also I don't know if this will
help or not but when I list my loaded modules (ls mod) it is showing 2
zircom modules having been sucessfully loaded.
AJ
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From: "bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:21:09 -0600
"william" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I've trying for a month to install corel and as a last resort zipslack.
If you haven't been able to install the corel distro in a month, i'd suggest
you probably will not be happy with Linux.
> If somebody wanted to make
> gates squirm just a tiny bit why didn't they follow what he did and make
> it easy for the common folk to install Linux.
an anecdote: until recently in the US, most classes of Amateur Radio
Operator licenses required a demonstrated ability to transcribe Morse code,
though Morse has been abandoned by the rest of the world. learning code was
perceived as a perverse form of torture by many acolytes, One of the
unspoken reasons for the requirement was "to keep the riffraff out". take
this as you will.
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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FTP Question RH 7.1
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:21:39 +1000
Hi!,
> Just installed RH 7.1 and am trying to get FTP working. When I dial
> into my ISP from a Windows system I get an access denied msg. When I
> run "chkconfig --list wu-ftpd" it returns "wu-ftpd off". Is this why I
> can't connect?
Check to make sure that there is no "disable=yes" flag in the file
/etc/xinetd.d/wu-ftpd. It looks like the wu-ftpd has been installed on your
system but it just hasn't been switched on.
See ya
Dean Thompson
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From: Frank Ranner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to format a Floppy Disk
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:17:01 +1000
"S.Wong" wrote:
>
> I wonder if someone can tell me how to format a floppy in MS Windows format.
>
> Thanks.
>
> SW
If you have mtools installed and the disk is already low-level
formatted:
mformat a:
To low-level format:
fdformat /dev/fd0H1440
See also mcopy, mdir, mtype, mlabel, ...
Frank
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From: Tony Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pcmcia issue
Date: 27 May 2001 20:28:16 -0500
>> On Sun, 27 May 2001 21:17:51 -0400,
>> Shore Linux Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I recently installed rh 7.1 on a laptop. Apparently it
> sucessfully detected my pcmcia modem/network card
> (zircom cardbus 56k). However now each time I reboot it
> is telling me the card has been removed but the card is
> still actually in. Also I am unsure of what exactly to
> do to get pcmcia working.
These 2 would be a good place to start:
http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/
http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/doc/PCMCIA-HOWTO.html
hth
t
--
Just reach into these holes. I use a carrot.
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From: Christopher Fairbairn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:19:23 +1200
william wrote:
> Does anyone out there know of a linux that is not made for nerds and
> geeks? I've trying for a month to install corel and as a last resort
> zipslack.
What's wrong, what error message are you seeing? What doesn't work? How far
do you get?
Is there an incompatability with some of your hardware? For that matter
what hardware are you trying to install upon?
Without that sort of information people can't really help you.
Some of us could probably tell you of horror stories about trying to
install other OSes as well.
> If linux is so great and powerful why hasen't some smart guy did
> what gates did and start out with a Linux 1.0 like the win3.1 which was a
> piece of
> cake to install.
Because that "smart guy" sees that a problem that would be, and would
probably prefer the current situation.....
Also make the differentiation between a distrbution of the Linux OS and the
Linux Kernel it self....
> Put the disks in drive a:\ and type setup.
That would only work on machines whihc have DOS pre-installed, how well
would that work if you were trying to install it on your MAC, Acron or
Atari etc etc...?
Linux isn't meant to only install from machines which have DOS
pre-installed, and in fact it works really well on processors/computing
platforms where DOS will never work..
I don't see the point here. I've always had really easy installs.
I simply place a bootable CD in my CDROM drive, reboot and click "next"
quite a few times. Although I am presented with quite a few options you can
usually get a quite workable machine by just selecting the defaults.
> But no, they had to make hard so the comp geeks can have ball sitting in
> front of their comp for 12 hrs.
Two different operating systems, designed for two different worlds....
Linux is designed to be flexable/customiasable and utimatly tunable.
The people which invest huge amounts of time (with the normal being unpaid)
in developing it are warrented to make it work the way they desire and to
solve their problems.
If it doesn't suit your goals/desires in an OS, then don't use it. Can't
understand the way in which the OS works, look for one which you do, or
look for one which better matches your desires in an OS.
> I mean, is it such a big deal for all these comp buffs to make a simple
> Type a:\install or setup?
Again, a similiar process does work for myself. Place a CD in the drive and
reboot...
What isn't working for yourself? How can I help you in getting your
installation working? Without details no one can help you..
> All I hear about is what a great OS linux is.
As so the OS have earnt that reputation.
> If somebody wanted to make
> gates squirm just a tiny bit why didn't they follow what he did and make
> it easy for the common folk to install Linux.
I have no ellusions that such a distribution will exist one day. The point
of the matter at the moment is that the "typical Linux user" is attracted
to it for the flexability it provides.
I personally got attracted to the OS for its "rich" development
environment. If having compilers such as GCC wasn't enough, the fact that I
can retarget these to other platforms (such as my embedded 68332 board)
made it a lot more "sweet" for me.
This is probably not what the typical home desktop OS is like. A typical
home desktop OS will not have many choices during install.
It would be pretty much, you get this word processor, this desktop
environment. Also in most cases most of these configuration files would be
"locked out" for the average user - want to use a different desktop
environment (perhaps KDE vs GNOME) tough luck, that's not what's
provided.......
How about changing the MTU value of a TCP/IP connection under Windows? I
think the major difference is not that such things can't be done, but
simply that under Windows they are usually hidden under regstry keys etc
etc, while under Linux they are very much visable as settings in
configuration files or scripts etc.
Whens the last time you tried upgrading a single part of a Microsoft OS,
without being provided with a "patch" from Microsoft? This works fine in
that case, since there is only one development team working on the OS.
However under the "Linux model" which is inheriently distributed, there is
no one team with ultamate control over all distributions of Linux.
Different distributions are free to implement things the way they feel.
The reason why Linux can sometimes seem difficult is because of the
overriding fact that different people like different things.
This can be shown in so many ways.... The typical desktop user would look
at the webservers available under Linux and say why are there so many
options?
Why would I want khttpd, apache and httpd (and a whole lot of other
options) when they all basically do the same thing?
A Linux user would appreciate the differences between the different
webservers and use the one which best fits there goals.
Once again, I extend the offer to you,
Provide us with some information, and perhaps we can help you.
I am sure that after getting through your current problems you will start
to appreciate the power of a Linux based OS. It's not something that can be
learnt overnight, but then what other OS have you learnt everything there
is to know about it, in one night?
Christopher Fairbairn.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: pci modem driver (LT) for Linux wanted
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 May 2001 01:46:24 GMT
On Sat, 26 May 2001 15:58:49 +0200, Guus Ellenkamp staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>How to install modem driver for LT pci modem?
http://walbran.org/sean/linux/stodolsk/ , download the tarball, follow
the directions. It's really simple if you just follow the README (or
was it 1ST_READ ?) file.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: "George Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Why won't my RH 7.1 box reboot?
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:03:03 -0400
I'm trying to compile a new 2.4.4 kernel to replace the 2.4.2 kernel that
came with Redhat Linux 7.1, which I installed a few weeks ago. Everything
seems to be going well, and the new kernel seems to work fine... except when
it comes to shutdowns and reboots. For instance "reboot" (or "shutdown -r
now") goes through the regular list of things, and after unmounting the
filesystems, says:
Please wait while the system is rebooting.
Restarting system.
(or something to that effect).
Then the system just hangs. I have to hit the restart button to get it to
reboot. Needless to say, that'll make remote sysadmin'ing a bit of a pain.
Since rebooting/shutdown used to work fine under the RH7.1 2.4.2 kernel, I
wondered if maybe some of the new features I had compiled into the 2.4.4
kernel (as modules) were causing problems. So I removed the power
management (APM/APCI) and USB support I had added and recompiled/reinstalled
the kernel. But that didn't work - it still hung at the same place.
So:
1) Can anyone tell me why this happening, and what I need to do to fix it?
Or,
2) if this problem could be due to any NUMBER of things, can anyone give me
an idea of what kind of steps I can take to track down what's causing the
problem? (even if it involves making modifications to the kernel source to
write out debugging info, or whatever's necessary)
Thanks to anyone who can help!
(Oh, the system is a Dell PowerEdge server (700Mhz, I believe, with 256M
RAM)
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From: "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 02:03:51 GMT
You kind of have to stumble on the right distribution first. Corel and
zipslack don't sound like your average distributions. Pick up the previous
release of Redhat (5.2 -7.0) or Mandrake (6.5-7.0) for $10US and try those.
Read the minimum system requirements and scan this newsgroup for complaints.
However, Linux is a better Unix (the super nerd os) and is getting better
everyday for everyday surfers, not for gamers yet. Once you install a piece
of software that doesn't require rebooting your system you too may
appreciate Linux.
"william" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Does anyone out there know of a linux that is not made for nerds and
geeks?
> I've trying for a month to install corel and as a last resort zipslack.
> If linux is so great and powerful why hasen't some smart guy did what
gates
> did and start out with a Linux 1.0 like the win3.1 which was a piece of
> cake to install. Put the disks in drive a:\ and type setup.
> But no, they had to make hard so the comp geeks can have ball sitting in
> front of their comp for 12 hrs.
>
> I mean, is it such a big deal for all these comp buffs to make a simple
> Type a:\install or setup?
>
> All I hear about is what a great OS linux is. If somebody wanted to make
> gates squirm just a tiny bit why didn't they follow what he did and make
> it easy for the common folk to install Linux.
> Thank You
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: Erik Svenkerud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: compile problem
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 02:03:58 GMT
Hi there,
when I try to compile a program from source,configure gives me this message
at the end :
checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check
your installation and add the correct paths!
any ideas be greatly appreciated..
thanks
Erik
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Latest version of Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 May 2001 02:04:15 GMT
On Mon, 28 May 2001 00:30:05 -0000, G.Harmsworth staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>My question is does the Latest version of Linux have a Windows
>emulator?
Huh? Wine, short for Wine Is Not an Emulator, emulates 'Doze, and it is
a separately developed package from the "base" Linux distro. You can
install Wine on any Linux machine, though it probably wouldn't work too
well on anything but an x86.
Wine is included in many distros, and has been for quite some time--I
have a full SuSE 6.1 CD set that includes Wine from March 1999. Anyway,
the Wine in the distros is always a bit behind the "real" Wine. Get the
latest build from http://www.winehq.com/ and have fun.
If you have applications that don't run under Wine, there's always
Win4Lin or VMWare, both commercial products, but well worth the money
from what I hear.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: Christopher Fairbairn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Javadoc runtime problems
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:47:55 +1200
Hi,
I want to use my Redhat 7.1 based machine for Java development.
However I don't seem to have a fully working version of the JRE on my
machine. For example when I run Javadoc I obtain:
[chris@localhost chris]$ javadoc
java.lang.ClassNoFoundException: sun/tools/javadoc/Main
at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:native)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:52)
And the same problems occur for other classes which are in the standard JRE
- eg javax/swing/table/AbstractTableModel (it only seems to be swing
related ones which are a problem, i.e. an import of java.text.DecimalFormat
works fine.....
What am I missing. In addition to kaffe do I need to install an additional
JRE?
This I bieleve is correct but why wasn't one installed when kaffe was
installed during the install of Redhat? Isn't kaffe useless without a
working JRE????
Or is it as simple as a missing classpath environment string?
Under the bash shell, I don't seem to have any CLASSPATH environment string
listed when I execute the command "set".
I think it is something CLASSPATH related as I also can't correctly
"compile" classes I have written myself which refer to other classes I have
written myself which reside in the same directory.
How do I get a working Java environment under Linux? I don't really want to
download the 30 something meg JRE from SUN, if I don't really need to
download it, or if it won't solve my problems (I have high speed internet
access, but get charged for international content).
Thanks,
Christopher Fairbairn.
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From: "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to connect to internet in non-X
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 02:07:21 GMT
Plz repost the X-display problem for another try. Meanwhile have you made
another user and tried X for that user? Can you make X window work with
generic display and monitor drivers?
"NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> im a linux newbie.
>
> have linux rh7 running in my dual-boot box. i cant work in X for my
display
> is corrupted. have posted this in the newsgroup but unfortunately no
answer
> for me. i like to connect to the net in non-Xterm but dont know how. i
want
> to use pine to send/receive email. can anyone give any link or howto to
> configure my modem to connect to the net? thanks in advance. more power to
> linux !
>
> eri
>
>
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From: "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Java support for Opera
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 02:09:19 GMT
Not an answer. But I dig Opera too! Uninstalled Netscape and haven't
looked back.
"Gaetan Paquette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8C9Q6.1687$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I downloaded and installed the latest Opera browser for Linux and I love
it!
> It's fast, pages are rendered perfectly (no fonts problems) and it's
loaded
> with features. The only problem is that there is no java support on the
> version that I downloaded, what's the story here?
> Why is there no java support on the free version?
> I will defenitly use Opera as my only browser whenever java support is
> included.
>
> Pic.
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