Linux-Misc Digest #963, Volume #25                Sat, 7 Oct 00 10:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Mouse stops clicking in X ("Patrick Mougin")
  Re: so what do I do with my spare modem bandwidth? (Richard Hoskins)
  newbie: How to send a .gz file as attachment? ("Oguz")
  Re: Xemacs on Corel (Debian) Linux (Colin Watson)
  Re: any multitrack audio editing software ? (Jerry L Kreps)
  Re: recovering one file on an ext2 filesystem (Martin Herrman)
  Re: alsa troubles (Daren Russell)
  Re: Exim command line opt for Subject (Daren Russell)
  Modem configuartion. ("Collin Borrlewyn")
  Re: Xwindows problems (newbie) (Salex)
  Problem with WordPefect 8 installation! (Salex)
  Re: One 100% Newbie ("philo")
  Linux contra Microsoft (Rafael)
  Re: symbolic links ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Change of hostname/ip-address.. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  SuSE 7.0 installation graphics problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Spread sheet for Linux? (=?iso-8859-1?q?Bj=F8rn-Helge_Mevik?=)
  Re: Licq probs (Kyle Parfrey)
  Re: newbie: How to send a .gz file as attachment? (Robert Heller)
  Re: Linux contra Microsoft (Andrew Purugganan)

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From: "Patrick Mougin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mouse stops clicking in X
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 06:48:55 GMT


"The infamous "Brian"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:QO0D5.21$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi J:
>
> Have a look to see if you are running "gpm" (general purpose mouse) by
> default (starts during boot). I have had situations where I had to kill
> "gpm" before running X.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Best regards,
>
> The infamous "Brian"
>

Hey,

I'm running Debian 2.2 with a SiS6326 card and PS/2 mouse, and initially the
Xserver would come up and the mouse wouldn't work. I then actually
_uninstalled_ gpm from the setup. What I then did was to run xf86config, and
instead of typing /dev/mouse for my mouse device, I typed in /dev/psaux (as
it is a PS/2 mouse). Now my mouse works like a charm.

Hope this helps in some way,

Patrick



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From: Richard Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows98,comp.dcom.modems,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: so what do I do with my spare modem bandwidth?
Date: 07 Oct 2000 04:12:28 -0400

Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Remember, there's no such thing as a free lunch.  The reason the
> Internet is so affordable is because everyone's counting on all that
> quiet time, so that customers can share bandwidth.

prisoner's dilemma

It's tough to be bandwidth-conscience given the current state of the
WWW.

-- 
party naked

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From: "Oguz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: newbie: How to send a .gz file as attachment?
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 11:25:25 +0300

Hi.

I need to write a cron job that sends my db's gzipped backups. I wrote a
shell script that has this line:

cat backup.gz | mail -s "backup" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

this was working when backups were simple text files. I still seems to work
with .gz files. I mean I get the email, which naturally has lots of junk in
its body. I erase the mail headers and save the junk as somename.gz. And I
try to gunzip it. Gunzip doesn't like this.

Anyway, can somebody tell me how I can send .gz file as attachment?

Thanks.

Oguz.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Xemacs on Corel (Debian) Linux
Date: 7 Oct 2000 08:37:57 GMT

Chetan Vora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Colin Walters wrote:
>> Chetan Vora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > I'm sorry if this has been answered before but my search provided no
>> > such query before. Basically, I installed XEmacs21.1 binaries for
>> > Linux (RPMs which I converted to .deb and then used Corel Update to
>> > install them).

I agree with other posters that this is a Really Bad Idea unless you
know what you're doing. 'alien' shouldn't be used indiscriminately, and
software like xemacs (and definitely libc6!) is too close to the
infrastructure for alien to be safe.

aliening glibc/libc6 will break your system.

The libdb.so.3 library the aliened xemacs is looking for comes from new
versions of libdb2, which as yet are only in the unstable release of
Debian (I assume they're in Red Hat 7.0 or something). However, if you
get hold of a package compiled against an older version of libdb it will
run fine.

>> Why do that?  I don't know how different "Corel Linux" is from Debian,
>> but on Debian, you should be able to type:
>>
>> apt-get install xemacs21
>
>Thanks all, for the quick replies. If I want to install a basic "Editor"
>version of Xemacs21, which packages will I need from the Debian site? I'm
>guessing this is the minimum:-
>xemacs21-nomule_21.1.10-4.deb
>xemacs21-support_21.1.10-4.deb
>libc6_2.0.7.19981211-6.3_i386.deb

The above command ('apt-get install xemacs21) is all you need on a
modern Debian system with apt set up properly. Don't try to hunt down
individual .debs yourself, as apt will pull in all the dependencies for
you.

libc6-2.0.7 suggests you're looking at slink; if you can use potato
instead (the current stable release), do.

The line that should go in your /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 2.1
(slink) is:

  deb ftp://archive.debian.org/debian-archive slink main contrib non-free

... and for Debian 2.2 (potato):

  deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
  deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato non-US/main non-US/contrib 
non-US/non-free

>I'm just starting out with Debian Linux so thanks for bearing with my
>newbie questions patiently.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a mailing list for Debian users that you
might find useful: see http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe for
how to subscribe.

(Follow-ups set to the Linux groups - I guess this has stopped being an
emacs issue.)

-- 
Colin Watson                                     [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"I still remember the way that you laughed / When you pushed me down
 that elevator shaft" - "You Don't Love Me Anymore", Weird Al Yankovic

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From: Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: any multitrack audio editing software ?
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 04:27:34 -0500

Search for CSound and Casandra

On Fri, 06 Oct 2000, Cioni Mario wrote:
>Hi
>I'm Mario
>I'ld like to know if there is any multitrack audio editing software for
>Linux
>
>Can you help me please ?
>
>Thank you very much
>ciao
>Cioni.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: recovering one file on an ext2 filesystem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 11:48:07 +0200

On Sat, 07 Oct 2000 07:38:02 +0200, Markus Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I moved (mv -r) the contents of a 4 GB SCSI disk onto another. After
> that I turned of the original disk and never turned it on again.
> 
> Now I need to recover one single small zip file from this disk. Since I
> turned it off after moving, I think the chances that the file was not
> overwritten are not that bad.
> 
> But: How can I get it back???

freshmeat.net -> search on 'recovery' -> there is a script that uses all
ways from the recovery-HOWTO, it is called 'recovery is still possible!'

good luck!

Martin

> 
> Thanks a lot in advance,
> 
> Markus


-- 
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Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.17  Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
11:40am up 9:05, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.09
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daren Russell)
Subject: Re: alsa troubles
Reply-To: daren(at)druss.clara.co.uk
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:43:36 +0100

On Fri, 06 Oct 2000 06:32:01 -0400, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hello,
>
>I just got my laptop back from having a hd replaced (head crash) and i'm
>putting linux back on it.  Currently I'm working on sound.  I've found
>out I can get everything but OSS emulation working under a regular user
>and i can get everything, including OSS emulation, working under root. 
>Problem is I can't figure out why I don't get OSS emulation as a user. 
>If I startx under username , as KDE starts up, I can see log messages on
>the console saying 'no sound device available, kaudioserver not started'
>but i don't know why it could do it as root but not as a regular user. 
>I added rw permissions to all the audio, amixer, and amidi devices in
>/dev but that didn't help. It's a permisions problems obviously but
>permissions on what?  
>
>anyone got any ideas?
>
>thanks
>brandon

Did you also set permissions on /dev/dsp* ??  Although I don't use kde
this is what was causing me hassle.  You can tell if it is this by 
switching back to the console you started X from (CTRL+ALT+F[1-6])

It tends to throw errors several times a second (!) while initialising
the sound device.

HTH
Daren

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daren Russell)
Subject: Re: Exim command line opt for Subject
Reply-To: daren(at)druss.clara.co.uk
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 10:01:40 +0100

On 05 Oct 2000 18:35:23 GMT, HankC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Greetings:
>
>Anyone know the command line parameter for Exim to specify subject?
>I'm trying to mail a report from cron thusly:
>
>cat report | /usr/sbin/exim -s "Daily Report" username
>
>Exim complains about '-s'.  If I drop '-s "Daily Report"' then the
>report is mailed okay (with no subject line, tho).
>
>Is there a more appropriate newsgroup for this question?
>
>TIA

I don't believe exim deals directly with email headers (unless you mess
about with the config file)

Is it not possible to add the appropriate headers to the file your 
sending? (assuming it's a text file)  If you add a 'Subject: The Report' 
as the first line in the file, followed by a blank space, then exim 
treats these as the mail headers (same as To: Fcc: etc.)

If not directly, it should be possible with a small script.

HTH
Daren

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From: "Collin Borrlewyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem configuartion.
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 06:11:19 -0400

Okay, the 100% newbie here, and time for those stupid questions I promised.

First a short story. I am attampting to move to Linux from (you guessed it!)
windows. I've already made a list of what I need to move without losing
productivity. I need a text editor, a browser, and a modem, as it turns out.
I found quickly that I had a Winmodem, and so I went and got myself a real
ISA plug and play modem. It didn't work by just plugging it in (not that
that was ever likely). By the way, the Linux I have is one of the trillion
Red Hat based ones.

Anyway, to make a short story truely short, the modem didn't work. The error
kppp gave me is "Modem busy". I went and read a chunk of a modem HOWTO, read
through most of the documentation for isapnp and some for setserial, and
have come to one really stunning conclusion: If I can make it work without
learning that much detail, I want to. So, my exact question, without much
technical detail, is: Is there any way to make the configuring of my modem
easy enough that I do not need to devote a weekend to learning how to
manually configure everything? And, if it's not possible, is there anything
anyone can reccomend to get me to the details I need, and skip a few of the
ones I'm not likely to?

More information available upon request (although why anyone would invite me
to keep talking is beyond me). I didn't include much of anything here
because I'm ignorant enough to have no idea what would be useful.



#Collin E Borrlewyn
##On a scale of one to ten.
###[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Salex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xwindows problems (newbie)
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 10:30:02 -0000


Jim Young wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi. windows problem.  when i run X, it changes screen modes and instantly
> changes back, saying xterm has problems loading ncurses.so.4 shared
library.
> 
> i installed ncurses v 4.somehting and 5.1, yet it still complains.
> 
> any ideas?
> '
> 
> Thanks, Jim
> 


I'm not shure, but try to make symlinks to older libs vers. files:

ln -s <somelib.so.5> <somelib.so.4> 

In most cases it must help. 
> 


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From: Salex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with WordPefect 8 installation!
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 10:30:02 -0000

Does smbd. know how install WP8 on Mandrake 70? It's seems to me there must
be other files except GUILG00.GZ. When I unpack & untar the file, ./Runme
script doesn't work properly.

Please help me !

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From: "philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: One 100% Newbie
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 06:39:04 -0500

the only stupid question is the one left unasked,
right?



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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux contra Microsoft
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 14:45:19 +0200

To help, we have to make Microsoft people (people using Microsoft
products), know the true.
Many of them are new Windows users who do not know anything or very
little about computers. I work as a System administrator and I have met
many people who do not know whats Linux, Unix etc. They think that
computer must be with MS Windows, they did not heard about other
alternative. And I think that we have to do something otherwise the
beatle with Microsoft will last for long time.
Every year I have contacts with 100 new computers user and I do good job
informing them about it. But still only 10 % understand what I am
talking about.

Rodger


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: symbolic links
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 12:37:34 +0100

TotenKopf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Hey,

> How do you modify/make symbolic links from the command prompt?
> Running RH6.2 K2.2.16

ln -s filename linkname

man ln

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Change of hostname/ip-address..
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 12:48:28 +0100

Ish Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Hello,

> What the file invoved  in a change of hostnme/ip-address scenario.
> I tried with  changes to

> /etc/hosts
> /etc/sysconfig/network
> /etc/sysconfig/network/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

> and it did not work.

What *exactly* are you trying to do?
If you give us more specifics we might be able to help.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SuSE 7.0 installation graphics problem
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 11:55:13 GMT

I have been trying to install SUSE 7.0 on a Pentium Pro 200, 96MB RAM,
and a Matrox Millenium 2MB graphics card.  When the Yast2 screen comes
up, there are many vertical grey stripes overlaying the display,
perhaps 6 or so pixels wide, but they do not stop the system from
functioning properly.  They do stop me from reading what is on the
screen, so I tried text based installation with Yast.  All went well
untill I attempted to setup XFree4.0, when the same problems occured.
None of these problems have occured with any previous version of Linux
installed on the identical machine, [Red Hat 5.2 and 6.1, SuSE
versions 6.1, 6.3, 6.4], although none of them had version 4 of XFree.
Is there something I am doing wrong, or it the Yast2 in the new SuSE
based on XFree 4.0 and there is some compatibility problem with the
old Matrox card.  I need to know before I try this on anything but the
old machine, since I can't afford problems with my current computer.
All help would be appreciated.

David

(Please remove the !'s from the email address if you wish to respond
via email)

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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Bj=F8rn-Helge_Mevik?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Spread sheet for Linux?
Date: 07 Oct 2000 15:10:11 +0200

Hi!

I'm looking for a spread sheet with the following features  The ability
to "lock" or "freeze" (or whatever) the top rows and the leftmost
columns, in the sense that they will not disappear from the screen when
scrolling the sheet down or to the right.  Does such a spread sheet
exist?

It would also be nice if it could work with several sheets.

I want to use the top rows as column titles, and the leftmost columns will
contain the date and a description of the data in that row.  I'm
currently using M$ Excel, which has thi feature, but would like to use a
Linux program instead.

-- 
Bj�rn-Helge Mevik  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Kyle Parfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Licq probs
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 13:15:03 GMT

The icq network is the same, so the uin is the same. Did you terminate
the message window before it sent? You should set messages to autoclose,
and not kill them. Then you can tell if it has sent properly. Also you
can send through server if the message isn't sending.

Kyle


Ali wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I`m trying to use Licq for linux on mandrake7.1, I am already a registered
> user with the windows version.
> Can you use the same UIN number for the linux version as you do for windows.
> I sent a message to a mate
> but he never got it, do I have to register again to use this or do something
> else???
> 
> Using licq 0.81  Any help much appreciated.
> 
> Ali

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie: How to send a .gz file as attachment?
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 13:16:54 -0000

  "Oguz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Sat, 7 Oct 2000 11:25:25 +0300, wrote :

"> Hi.
"> 
"> I need to write a cron job that sends my db's gzipped backups. I wrote a
"> shell script that has this line:
"> 
"> cat backup.gz | mail -s "backup" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"> 
"> this was working when backups were simple text files. I still seems to work
"> with .gz files. I mean I get the email, which naturally has lots of junk in
"> its body. I erase the mail headers and save the junk as somename.gz. And I
"> try to gunzip it. Gunzip doesn't like this.
"> 
"> Anyway, can somebody tell me how I can send .gz file as attachment?

Check out metasend.

The problem is this: a .gz file is 8-bit binary and sendmail, et. al.
only want to deal with 7-bit text -- some of the bits are being striped.
Also \n's are being inserted.  Occurances of "\nFrom" are being changed
to "\n>From", and so on.  This is totaly confusing gunzip...

Metasend will convert the binary stream to base-64 ASCII text.  On the
other end, metamail can convert the base-64 ASCII text back to the
original binary .gz file.

man metasend
man metamail


"> 
"> Thanks.
"> 
"> Oguz.
"> 
"> 
">                               






                                                                                       
  
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Linux contra Microsoft
Date: 7 Oct 2000 13:44:55 GMT

Rafael ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ To help, we have to make Microsoft people (people using Microsoft
[ products), know the true.
[ Many of them are new Windows users who do not know anything or very
[ little about computers. I work as a System administrator and I have met
[ many people who do not know whats Linux, Unix etc. They think that
[ computer must be with MS Windows, they did not heard about other
[ alternative. And I think that we have to do something otherwise the
[ beatle with Microsoft will last for long time.
[ Every year I have contacts with 100 new computers user and I do good job
[ informing them about it. But still only 10 % understand what I am
[ talking about.

there was this recent article on slashdot.org where down in Australia they 
had an expo of some sort where all the alternative OS's were featured: 
Amiga, FreeBSD, OS/2, Linux, and so on

--
jazz 
Registered linux user no. 164098  +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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