Linux-Misc Digest #966, Volume #18 Tue, 9 Feb 99 18:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: How to create a man page ("J�rn Nettingsmeier")
Where is Kermit? (Christopher B Specker)
Rebooting Linux (Kristofer Vorwerk)
Re: X Apps via Telnet (Ben Russo)
Re: journyx Time v2.2.1 released for linux (Corbett Baker)
Re: How do I know which window manager I am using? (Marco Anglesio)
what's the difference between desktop/window-manager (Chetan Ahuja)
Re: PPP Dialers (Stan Barr)
Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99 (klaatu)
Re: Dial-in TTY (Ben Russo)
Re: Tux graphic on boot ("David Z. Maze")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Michael Powe)
Re: logging in with your thumb (humor) (Michael Powe)
Re: Where is Kermit? (Frank da Cruz)
Re: Hardware compatibility List (Ben Russo)
Re: file system corruption (Ben Russo)
KPPP - Connect ... no Nameserver ("Torsten Jenkner")
Re: help on strings libraries (Ben Russo)
Re: Novell Administrator for Linux? ("Kevin D. Snodgrass")
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From: "J�rn Nettingsmeier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: How to create a man page
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:30:59 +0100
Michail Konstantinidis wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Could anyone tell me what I need to create a man page? Like, what tools
> are necessary etc.?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated
> Michali
there is a manpage-howto. soory i don�t have the url at hand.
if it�s not included in your distribution, try sunsite or altavista.
regards,
joern
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Jo"rn Nettingsmeier
Effmannstr. 6
45239 Essen/Germany
Phone/Fax +49 201 491621
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B Specker)
Subject: Where is Kermit?
Date: 9 Feb 1999 20:50:03 GMT
This probably sounds pretty stupid, but I need an answer.
Right now having kermit would go a long way towards making me use Windows less.
I can use minicom to connect to the dial in tty here, but I can't transfer
files to my computer without kermit, and for that I have to use DOS/Windows.
What package contains Kermit or where can I download it from so I won't have to
jump to a different OS every time I want to download something?
Thanks,
Chris
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From: Kristofer Vorwerk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Rebooting Linux
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 15:48:29 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sean Loaring wrote:
> Working with 'doze drivers is horrible. Nothing like having to restart a
> system five times to get a damn network card working properly (as far as
> 'doze goes).
Heh heh heh. I agree -- it gets frustrating after a while!
Two days ago, under Linux, I compiled and installed a new glibc (2.1),
compiled and installed a new compiler (egcs 1.1.1), and compiled and
installed a new ld.so (hmm... 1.9.9, i think), and didn't have to reboot
once ;)
Apart from being rather poorly thought-out, I imagine that Windows needs
to reboot after making minor changes in order to stay "compatible" with
all hardware. (I can't think of any other reason for not being able to
unload a driver and load it back up again, without shutting down the
whole gui.)
--
kris vorwerk
crosskeys systems corp.
2b computer engineering
university of waterloo
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: X Apps via Telnet
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 16:13:27 -0500
>
> I want to develop graphical Apps (using Tcl/Tk or some Motif-like library)
> on my Linux Server, nut I also want that users on the PC's use those apps
Try JAVA.
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From: Corbett Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: journyx Time v2.2.1 released for linux
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:13:09 -0800
I noticed you posted to every group except the most relevant one,
comp.os.linux.announce is designed for this kind of garbage, please use it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> v2.2.1 has lots of new featuers. You can track time, attendance, and
> project status worldwide via the web on linux. It's free for 5 users
> or less at the URL below.
> __________________________________________________________________
> Web-Based Time Tracking. Journyx Time
> is *FREE* at (800) 755-9878
> http://journyx.com/wts.html [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How do I know which window manager I am using?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:07:18 GMT
On Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:08:30 -0800, Benyang Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am confused by fvwm, fvwm2, fvwm95, AnotherLevel. All these seem to be
>the same thing but have their own configuration files. How can I cwhich
>one my Linux is using?
They're all different window managers. The fvwm's are rewrites of each
other (although I believe that 2 and 95 share a common core). AnotherLevel
is another windowmanager (which I haven't heard of until now). All of them
do the same thing, but there are differences in look and feel, in
configuration and configurability, in size, in speed, in code maturity,
etc.
To find out which one you are using, check your .xinitrc, or merely type
ps x in an xterm when you're in x. One of the processes (probably the
first one with the number greater than that of X itself) will be your
window manager.
marco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chetan Ahuja)
Subject: what's the difference between desktop/window-manager
Date: 9 Feb 1999 21:06:29 GMT
Hi,
I have been using linux for a long time but never spent much time
in Xwindows... I have used it mostly for development and numerical computation
work. Recently I installed Redhat 5.2 on a new system and this time
I decided to tinker with X and various GUI applications. I love the
WindowsMaker windows manager and the ease of use and configuration it
provides. Current Netscape is so so on linux (as compared to other platforms)
and I really love GIMP. I think GIMP should get a lot of publicity to
spread linux in new sectors ( Graphics artists types would love it)
But I have been hearing about this KDE and GNOME thingies and how they
promise to make linux desktop a very attractive idea even for people who
are afraid of linux currently. I would like to try one of these two
for the desktop but I have been getting confusing messages about what
exactly is the relationship/differences between a "Desktop" like KDE
and a "windows manager" like windowmaker. In particular, Is it possible
to run windowmaker ON TOP OF KDE ( if such a thing makes any sense).
If yes, what are the advantages/drawbacks to such an approach....
Pointers to web pages which explain this in fair detail will also be appreciated.
Thanks
Chetan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Barr)
Subject: Re: PPP Dialers
Date: 9 Feb 1999 19:31:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:09:10 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>HI people ... I am currently using Redhat 5.1
>
>and I was wondering if there are any other PPP dialers on the net like Kppp ?
>
>and .. anyone using Afterstep ??
>
>
I use ezppp ( http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezppp/index.html )
...and AfterStep.
Cheers,
Stan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: klaatu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: dc.general
Subject: Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 16:25:22 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Lesher wrote:
>
> Bored now that c:\congress\impeachment.exe has GPF'ed?
>
> Come to the DC-LUG/NOVALUG InstallFest and prove that *your*
> OS does not need Internet Explorer to work!
>
> Why listen to a bunch of yawn-inspiring videotape testimony when
> you can change ALL the icons on YOUR screen, and no federal judge
> will say a word!
>
> <http://www.tux.org/fest> has all the details. No subpoena
> needed.....
Tres cute! But aren't you hitting the law of diminishing returns yet? Seems to
me that everyone with the intelligence to see the need for a free open-source
operating system, complete with source code and compiler, has already got a
Linux box, while everyone who doesn't see the need is working for or selling
to the DC government and could not be pursuaded to give up their Windows3.1 or
NT machines if you stuck a gun to their head and buried them in gold pieces.
They're honest politicians, the kind that _stay_ bought.
--klaatu (who never misses an opportunity to chastise the District government
for either having no modern computers, or choosing a monopolist's overpriced
and underpowered bug-riddled-piece-of-filth operating system to waste the
taxpayers money, instead of saving enough on software to literally put a
laptop with a free OS into the hands of every legitimate District resident.)
>
--
Be kind to your neighbors, even though they be transgenic chimerae.
Non-UseNet re-transmission of this article is a willful violation of US
Copyright Law and the Berne Convention. Statutory damages are $250,000.00
Whom thou'st vex'd waxeth wroth: Meow. http://www.clark.net/pub/klaatu/
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dial-in TTY
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:46:00 -0500
Randy wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me how to set up a modem to act as a dial in tty for a
> serial termial that will run a 38400 baud
>
> Thanks in advance
use setserial and getty
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tux graphic on boot
Date: 09 Feb 1999 17:26:26 -0500
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
David> I did compiled and installed the 2.2.1 and I have not seen any
David> logo. What am I missing?
A thorough reading of the kernel documentation,
e.g. linux/Documentation/fb/*?
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 09 Feb 1999 01:27:08 -0800
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>>>>> "Sean" == Sean Loaring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Sean> Michael Powe wrote:
>> that decent support would be achievable. I do Windows support
>> all day long with "ordinary citizens" and, based on that
>> experience, I don't believe that Windows is anything like
>> "intuitive" or "easy to use."
Sean> Here, here! I have spent a large amount of time
Sean> administering systems and I can say that working with
Sean> Loose95 is like an anal root canal.
Nice image! ;-)
Sean> Working with 'doze drivers is horrible. Nothing like having
Sean> to restart a system five times to get a damn network card
Sean> working properly (as far as 'doze goes).
Yeah, or spending 45 minutes installing a video driver. Which had
been installed just fine until the unsuspecting user installed another
broken game that hosed the video.
For my money, the worst programmers on the planet write games. Every
day I have reason to be glad that computer games have no interest for
me. I just think of all the hours I have saved by not having to
reconfigure my system over and over and over and over ...
mp
- --
Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: logging in with your thumb (humor)
Date: 09 Feb 1999 01:09:37 -0800
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>>>>> "gus" == gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
gus> [snip]
>> :> Won't you need his thumb as well? :> :> Norman
>>
>> : No, only what any cracker would use to break into this
>> device: a thumb : print from anything he has recently touched.
>>
>> I'm afraid that wouldn't work because that would give the
>> reverse image of his thumb print. Touche :-)
gus> That is simply misleading, you could always use it as an
gus> image of the thumb on his OTHER hand. Have you never heard of
gus> lateral thinking?
Heh, the real hoot is, I just saw a magazine article discussing this
very item! The root thumb has arrived!
mp
- --
Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank da Cruz)
Subject: Re: Where is Kermit?
Date: 9 Feb 1999 21:35:37 GMT
In article <79q892$8p0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Warren Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B Specker) writes:
:
: > What package contains Kermit or where can I download it from
: > so I won't have to jump to a different OS every time I want
: > to download something?
:
: You can find kermit in both binary and source distributions at
: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu. Under /kermit/archives you'll find:
:
: ckermit-6.0.192-7.alpha.rpm
: ckermit-6.0.192-7.i386.rpm
: ckermit-6.0.192-7.sparc.rpm
: ckermit-6.0.192-7.src.rpm
:
: Under /kermit/linux, you'll find packages for Debian and Slackware.
:
Those are for C-Kermit 6.0, which came out before major changes took
place in the Red Hat and Slackware distributions. Most people who
tried install from the rpms on recent Linux distributions found shared
library version mismatches, curses vs ncurses confusion, and/or libc vs
glibc confusion.
So I'd recommend you pick up C-Kermit 7.0 Beta (announced in this forum
about a week ago):
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck70.html
It's not in RPM form, but it's not that hard to build. Get the
cku195.tar.gz file, gunzip, tar xvf cku195.tar, "make linux". But note
that this is not a final release, so be sure to watch:
comp.protocols.kermit.misc
or the aforementioned web page for subsequent Betas and for the real
release. If you have any problems with the 7.0 Beta, send email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way, this is the kind of situation that illustrates why it is
more useful to answer "where is Kermit?" queries with a link to the
Kermit website than with FTP links. That way, visitors can find out
what's current, what's new, etc, rather than picking up a possibly
obsolescent binary or archive.
- Frank
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility List
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:47:40 -0500
sysadmin wrote:
>
> Is there a hardware compatibility list for the Linux version Redhat?
> Didn't see one
>
> --
> ===========================================
> Opinions my own and not representative of my employer
> Do not listen to me: I have brain damage
> ===========================================
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/hardware.html
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file system corruption
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:28:19 -0500
Xu Chun wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am experiencing some difficulties in booting my system after some
> mistakes
> I made. My computer runs Linux Slackware 2.0.25 and windows95, booted with
> LILO. Recently I install a new disk and used setup tried to incorporated
> this
> new disk. It crushed during the setup and my filesystem seems to have
> problem
> ever since. I cannot boot my linux, even with floppy disk. The booting
> process
> stops everytime when it checks file system. I got error messages like
> "file system corruption" and then "kernel panic"...and the system dies.
>
> Can anyone help me to solve this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Chun
boot using "linux single" at the LILO prompt,
and then e2fsck your partitions.
-Ben.
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From: "Torsten Jenkner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KPPP - Connect ... no Nameserver
Date: 9 Feb 1999 11:50:06 GMT
Hello, i tried to connect to the internet with Kppp and it works but i got
the following problem:
when i start the netscape navigator it doesn't find the nameserver i give
the kppp configuration. the DNS - ip is correct configured.
the ping command works to every machine and netscape works also if i type in
the ip-numbers, but every time the DNS should work it doesn't (every
www-adress and every link to another www-adress)
and also the first ping to any adress after the first connect let the
ppp-demon die unexpectedly. after a few seconds it reconnects and all pings
work fine... but the DNS doesn't work.
do anyone know about these problems? is it a bug (S.U.S.E. 5.3 KDE 1.0)
Torsten
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help on strings libraries
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:24:10 -0500
schatzi wrote:
>
> Hello ...
>
> Sorry for such a basic question but I really want to know !
>
> With c++, under RedHat 5.1, I wish to use strings libraries and can't
> find them.
>
> I have try several includes (<strings.h>, <memory>, <cctype>, <cstring>)
> and several class names (basic_string, string, cstring, ...)
> without success.
>
> As you see I miss documentation. Do such libraries exist and how do we use
> them? Are they standard? Is it possible to find documentation on the c++
> libraries (templates, lists, ...) ?
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/usr/include/strings.h
[brusso@smegma brusso]$ rpm -qf /usr/include/strings.h
glibc-devel-2.0.7-29
#include <strings.h>
Should work? Do you have development library RPM's installed?
You will need at least:
[brusso@smegma brusso]$ rpm -qa | grep lib | grep devel
...
glibc-devel-<version-number>.i386.rpm
libstdc++-devel-<version-number>.i386.rpm
...
You should be able to install these if you don't have them by
mounting your install CD or going to a RedHat mirror FTP site
and downloading them. Then type:
rpm -Uvh <rpm-file-name>
-Ben.
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From: "Kevin D. Snodgrass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.netware.misc
Subject: Re: Novell Administrator for Linux?
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 15:58:39 -0600
Steve D. Perkins wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone has come out with a "port" or some version
> of NWADMIN or NETADMIN for Novell NetWare, for Linux clients on the
> NetWare network.
There isn't one to my knowledge, but you might be able to
run one of the various admin tools with the emulators.
DOSEMU should let you run NETADMIN.EXE, if you can find WABI
the the Win3.x NWADMIN should work, and WINE is getting
better at Win32 apps. (Half the fun of Linux is trying
stuff like this, right?)
Also, if there is to be a true glibc version it will
probably come from Caldera. http://www.caldera.com/ They
have other NetWare items.
--
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| is like honey to bears,
Spam-proofed email address, | they can't keep their paws
intelligent beings will adjust. | off of it. - Steve Forbes
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