Linux-Misc Digest #966, Volume #26 Mon, 29 Jan 01 21:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Re: LILO won't compile (John in SD)
at queue problems (Gregory A Greenman)
Re: Reading QIC Tapes (Kevin)
Re: Kernel's HARD reset (bill davidsen)
Re: Errors In Partition Table (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Re: uninstalling using kpackage (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: software for kernel 2.4 ("jujubeesRULE")
Re: uninstalling using kpackage (Marijan Peh)
hda moved to hdb - where do i change? ("Stuart Herd")
Where to get RH7.0 CD w. latest bugfixes? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Looking for Math Software (Jerry Kreps)
Re: HELP: bootparam (non-modular kernel) (Dances With Crows)
Re: x won't start (Steve Ackman)
X logon question (Dan Smith)
failed "Prevent/Allow Medium Removal" ;failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity" (Ernest Siu)
Re: hda moved to hdb - where do i change? (Robert Heller)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:58:03 -0000
On 29 Jan 2001 23:18:36 GMT, Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: Christian morals were also invented by people. Besides, even if they
>: weren't there is so much contradiction that most people can and do
>: interpret the morals in the wa of their choice. ie, they end up with a
>: set of morals based on their own ideology.
>
>
>Christians, as you might expect, would disagree.
>
>And although I'm nothing even vaguely resembling a Christian, I tend
>to agree with them a lot more often than not. They're about the only
>folks left who are openly talking about morality, and identifying it
Morality to be distinguished from ethics where "morality"
is nothing more than a weak ethical theory held as a matter
of blind obedience to dogma rather than a thoughful
contemplation of why things should be a cetain way.
>(or more precisely the lack of it) as one of the major root causes of
>many of the problems we face.
>
>Today, we have no morality - only the rule of powerful people, falsely
>called "law." It seems to work when people's pockets are full. Wait
>and see what happens when they're not.
[deletia]
--
Having seen my prefered platform being eaten away by vendorlock and
the Lemming mentality in the past, I have a considerable motivation to
use Free Software that has nothing to do with ideology and everything
to do with pragmatism.
Free Software is the only way to level the playing field against a
market leader that has become immune to market pressures.
The other alternatives are giving up and just allowing the mediocrity
to walk all over you or to see your prefered product die slowly.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:59:16 -0000
On 29 Jan 2001 23:23:16 GMT, Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: Deism is a belief in the existance of God.
>: Atheism is a belief in the non-existance of God.
>
>: Obviously, Jefferson's detractors were lying.
>
>
>The polytheistic Romans accused the monotheistic Jews and Christians
>of being atheists also.
Conversely, Christians would label the Romans as
being amoral pagans.
--
Also while the herd mentality is certainly there, I think the
nature of software interfaces and how they tend to interfere
with free choice is far more critical. It's not enough to merely
have the "biggest fraternity", you also need a way to trap people
in once they've made a bad initial decision.
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO won't compile
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:00:07 GMT
On 29 Jan 2001 09:33:31 -0600, Art Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>fafaforza <> writes:
>
>> Very weird error, no info at all. After I type 'make in version 21.6.1
>>
>>
>> cc -E check-config.cpp `( if [ -r $ROOT/etc/lilo.defines ]; then cat
>> $ROOT/etc/lilo.defines; else echo -DM386 -DIGNORECASE -DVARSETUP
>> -DREWRITE_TABLE -DONE_SHOT -DVERSION -DREISERFS; fi ) | sed
>> 's/-D/-DLCF_/g'` `[ -r /usr/include/asm/boot.h ] && echo -DHAS_BOOT_H`
>> >/dev/null
>> cc -E `( if [ -r $ROOT/etc/lilo.defines ]; then cat
>> $ROOT/etc/lilo.defines; else echo -DM386 -DIGNORECASE -DVARSETUP
>> -DREWRITE_TABLE -DONE_SHOT -DVERSION -DREISERFS; fi ) | sed
>> 's/-D/-DLCF_/g'` `[ -r /usr/include/asm/boot.h ] && echo -DHAS_BOOT_H`
>> -DIMAGES=19 -DCODE_START_1=108 -DCODE_START_2=14 -DDESCR_SIZE=52
>> -DDSC_OFF=24 -DDSC_OFF2=29 -DDFCMD_OFF=34 -DMSG_OFF=40 -DFLAGS_OFF=48
>> -DMENU second.S -o temp2.s
>> as86 -0 -a -w -l temp2.lis -o temp2.o temp2.s
>> [ ... error ... ]
>>
>
>Your `as86' is too old - get a later version. Look for either `bin86'
>or `dev86'. I had the same error, and after replacing as86 with a new
>version, lilo builds without difficulty.
There is a README.common_problems in the LILO 21.6.1 source distribution which
explains this problem, and where to get an updated assembler.
--John
LILO version 21.6.1 (16-Dec-2000) source at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
patches at ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
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From: Gregory A Greenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: at queue problems
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:04:02 GMT
I have two users users set up on my Mandrake Linux 7.0
computer that are both trying to use the at queue to run
programs. They both have a shell script that calls the at
command. The line where at is called is:
at -q b -f diprun $2 $3 $4
This works fine for one of the users, but for the other, when
the appropriate time comes, diprun does not execute. It just
stays in the queue indefinitely without ever executing.
If anyone knows why this is happening and how to fix it, I'd
greatly appreciate your help.
Greg
==================
greg -at- spencersoft -dot- com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Reading QIC Tapes
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:13:16 GMT
Unfortunately I'm trying to read from a SCSI tape drive. From
the ftape web page:
ftape supports neither QIC-02, IDE (ATAPI), nor SCSI tape
drives. SCSI drives are accessed as /dev/[n]st[0-7] and are
supported by the kernel through the SCSI drivers. ATAPI tape
drives are supported by the kernel since 1.3.46 through the
IDE drivers.
Thanks for the pointer....
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Do you remember these guys:
> http://www.instmath.rwth-aachen.de/~heine/ftape/
--
Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Kernel's HARD reset
Date: 30 Jan 2001 00:14:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Vidal Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| OK, I think I have it. The kernel option "reboot=warm" should do it,
| shouldn't it?
From memory this works on the next boot.
| Is there a /proc-style solution for the same?
Therefore by the time you're up it's too late.
You can probably write a driver to diddle the bits in the memory which
control this, although I notice that a number of old BIOSs (like yours?)
don't honor this and boot cold every blessed time.
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
"I am lost. I am out looking for myself. If I should come back before I
return, please ask me to wait." -seen in a doctor's office
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Subject: Re: Errors In Partition Table
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:17:17 GMT
"Werner Fangmeier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Findpart, version 3.95.
>Copyright Svend Olaf Mikkelsen, 2001.
>
>OS: DOS 7.10 WINDOWS 4.10 Partition tables:
>
>Disk: 1 Cylinders: 3722 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 29196
>
>-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
> 0 1*0C 63 20980827 10244 0 1 1 1305*254 63 OK OK
> 0 2 0F 20980890 34925310 17053 1306* 0 1 3479*254 63 OK
> 1306 1 0B 63 20980827 10244 1306* 1 1 2611*254 63 OK OK
> 1306 2 05 20980890 12546765 6126 2612* 0 1 3392*254 63 OK
> 2612 1 83 63 4658787 2274 2612# 1 1 2901*254 63 OK OK
> 2612 2 05 25639740 7887915 3851 2902* 0 1 3392*254 63 OK
> 2902 1 83 1 6249284 3051 2902# 0 2 3290*254 63 NB OK
> 2902 2 05 31889025 1638630 800 3291* 0 1 3392*254 63 OK
> 3291 1 82 1 610469 298 3291# 0 2 3328*254 63 OK
The partition tables seems OK, although not standard.
The "end cylinder" for link to next extended partition table (ID 05)
usually is the same as end cylinder for the following logical
partition. Example: End cylinder (not the actual entry) in the
extended partition table cylinder 1306, entry 2, should be 2901. The
"Num" field should be corrected accordingly.
The logical partition belonging to an extended partition table usually
begins at a head 1, sector 1, meaning that there are (sectors-1)
unused sectors between the partition table and the partition. In your
tables two partitions begin in the sector following the extended
partition table.
The "NB" may be the result of the actual partition space being a
little smaller than according to the partition tables. This is as it
should be, since "end sector" should be 63.
A "*" at the cylinder number indicates that the actual entry is 1023,
the largest cylinder number that fits in the tables.
A "#" indicates that the actual CHS entry is 1023/(heads-1)/sector.
In extended partition tables I prefer CHS entries as (cylinder mod
1024)/head/sector.
In the primary partition table I prefer 1023/(heads-1)/sector for
cylinders > 1023.
--
Svend Olaf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: uninstalling using kpackage
Date: 30 Jan 2001 00:05:12 GMT
Sudhakar R. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ i've tried using kpackage to uninstall a couple of unnecassary to free up
[ some valuable disk space. though kpackage displays all the installed
[ packages, when i try to uninstall any of them..it says.
[ package <package name> is not installed
kpackage is merely a GUI frontend; underneath all that is the RPM command
rpm -e uninstalls a package
man rpm or try rpm --help
see if there's an update to the version of kpackage you have; mine works well
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: "jujubeesRULE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: software for kernel 2.4
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:37:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Dear newsgroup,
>
> where do i get
>
> e2fsprogs 1.19 pcmcia-cs 3.1.21 PPP 2.4.0 isdn4k-utils 3.1beta7
>
http://sourceforge.net/projects/e2fsprogs/
ftp://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/pub/pcmcia-cs/
ftp://linuxcare.com.au/pub/ppp/
ftp://ftp.isdn4linux.de/pub/isdn4linux/utils/
Just curious, did you read the entire Changes file? All of the above urls
are listed towards the bottom of it. Maybe you gave up too quick?
HTH...
> the rest mentioned in the changes file of the 2.4 kernel was easy to
> find
> (util-linux and modutils), but this stuff...
>
> thanx in advance, c.
>
> ____________________
> \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> \ phone: +49 2241 142404
> 53757 Sankt Augustin \ +49 2241 333041
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marijan Peh)
Subject: Re: uninstalling using kpackage
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:40:33 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sudhakar R. writes:
>hi!
>
>i've tried using kpackage to uninstall a couple of unnecassary to free up
>some valuable disk space. though kpackage displays all the installed
>packages, when i try to uninstall any of them..it says.
>
>package <package name> is not installed
>
>this is obviously not true...'coz i have been using these packages.
>
>so can someone plz point me to how to go about cleanly removing a package
>i don't want.
Sample: U have package named sysstat-3.2.4-5 and u wonna remove it =>
rpm -e sysstat
For more details: man rpm(8)
--
You came of nowhere with drums of thunder and a heart of gold.
Welcome to the inner circle.
You're the king of the digital hill.
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From: "Stuart Herd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hda moved to hdb - where do i change?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:50:11 GMT
Hi,
this is dumb, i know but here goes. Any help is greatly appreciated.
I have two hard drives hda and hdb both identical Quantum 20gb drives.
hda is fat 32 with two partiions 8 and 12 gb. Windows ME and Windows 2000
installed. The OS's were installed first.
hdb is partitioned as / = 2gb /usr and /home
hdb1, hdb5, hdb6 and hdb7 (swap)
heres the problem.
The linux drive was set as hda on its original machine and has now been
moved to its new home. The system is fine but as it is now hdb instead of
hda it won't boot as it is trying to mount the partitions as hda1, hda5 and
hda6 (and hda7 - swap)
Question:
I can get into single user mode to modify it but where? Where do i make the
changes to tell it it is now hdb?????
or am i hosed??
TIA to all
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Where to get RH7.0 CD w. latest bugfixes?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:13:32 GMT
Can anyone suggest a place to get an inexpensive RH7.0 CD with all the
latest bugfixes and updates?
Cheapbytes doesn't make any mention of how recent the packages are on
theirs, and LSL's "update 1 CDR" is dated to 11/26/00. Does anyone
make CD's which are updated more regularly? Much appreciated.
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From: Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Looking for Math Software
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:08:33 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MuPAD is an excellent choice.
It does both numerical and symbolic analysis and
the plot command pulls up gnuplot automatically.
gnuplot has modification and zooming capability.
With MuPAD you can plot several functions on
the same gnuplot graph.
The app is not GPL but it is free for personal use.
JLK
John Gluck wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am looking for math software to help me with studying.
>
> What I would like to be able to do is enter functions and see curves
> drawn in a window.
> Ideally, the package would allow me to compare various functions by
> drawing several in the same window.
>
> The package should work in X windows or with gnome or KDE.
>
> It doesn't need to be anything spectacular and professional like
Matlab.
> This is just to get a reasonable approximation and a graphical view of
> things.
>
> Please copy my e-mail as well as the group.
>
> TIA
>
> John
>
--
Scientific theories, according to Sir Karl Popper, can be "falsified,"
or proven wrong, by experiment.
Unscientific theories -Marxist dialectical history and Freudian
psychology were Popper's favorites-
are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by data.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: HELP: bootparam (non-modular kernel)
Date: 30 Jan 2001 01:20:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:34:29 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>I've decided to recompile my kernel (2.2.18) without module support
Why? This is really a stupid thing to do in most cases, because it
leads to really really long kernel command lines, and if you want to
take a device down or make changes to some things or if you get the
module parameters wrong, you have to reboot.
>(compile the modules directly into the kernel). I understand that I
>still need to pass the same infromation to the kernel at boot time that
>it used to read from /etc/conf.modules. What is the syntax I should use
>to translate my old "alias" and "options" /etc/conf.modules commands
>into something lilo can use? For example, if I have
>
>alias eth0 via-rhine
>options cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=11
When you compile sound support for an ISA card like the cs4232 directly
into the kernel, you enter the IRQ/DMA/IO numbers into menuconfig's
dialogs, and there they stay. FWIW, I have had no luck getting cs4232
to work when it's directly in the kernel. If you compile Ethernet card
support directly in, the first card will be detected and configged
automatically--if you have more cards, you must pass an ether= command
line.
Kernels without module support are really not reccommended. If you're
having a hardware problem you think you can solve this way, maybe you
should report its symptoms.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Subject: Re: x won't start
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:31:01 -0500
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:20:57 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I was messing around with some alpha software and it appears to have
>had an effect on my ability to start up x. I am running red hat 6.1.
>The error message looks somewhat like this:
>
>The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xlbcomp) reports: Errors:
> bad length in Geometry
> Output File "/var/tmp/server-0.xkm Removed
>Errors from xkbcomp are not Fatal to the x server
>Couldn't load xkb keymap, Falling back to pre - XKB deymap
>- FontTransSocketUNIXconnect: can't connect: errorno: 111
> Failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1'
> Fatal server error:
> could not open default font fixed.
>
>Part of me is suspicious that the software over ran the /tmp file, but
>rebooting does not fix the problem and I thought that would flush /tmp.
>Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
The first thing I'd suggest is restoring /etc/X11/XF86Config from
your backup.
--
Steve Ackman
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430
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From: Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X logon question
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:04:31 -0500
My school has a main server (running Digital Unix) and a couple of X
labs. These labs have X terminals that allow you to do a graphical
login. When you do that login, the system (or shell, I guess) knows
that you're coming in through a graphical session, so it automatically
sets your DISPLAY variable, etc. Also, you can just login, without
really having a text-based login shell. I know they use something
called "CDE" or something like that, but I don't know if it has anything
to do with it.
Can someone give me an overview of what all is going on here to do this
graphical login? Can I do it from my linux box?
Thanks!
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From: Ernest Siu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: failed "Prevent/Allow Medium Removal" ;failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity"
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:06:39 GMT
Hi...
Anyone got a clue what it means in the /var/log/message? My harddrive
blinks every 2 seconds!!!!
Ernest
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hda moved to hdb - where do i change?
Date: 29 Jan 2001 20:08:00 -0600
"Stuart Herd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:50:11 GMT, wrote :
"H> Hi,
"H>
"H> this is dumb, i know but here goes. Any help is greatly appreciated.
"H>
"H> I have two hard drives hda and hdb both identical Quantum 20gb drives.
"H>
"H> hda is fat 32 with two partiions 8 and 12 gb. Windows ME and Windows 2000
"H> installed. The OS's were installed first.
"H> hdb is partitioned as / = 2gb /usr and /home
"H> hdb1, hdb5, hdb6 and hdb7 (swap)
"H>
"H> heres the problem.
"H>
"H> The linux drive was set as hda on its original machine and has now been
"H> moved to its new home. The system is fine but as it is now hdb instead of
"H> hda it won't boot as it is trying to mount the partitions as hda1, hda5 and
"H> hda6 (and hda7 - swap)
"H>
"H> Question:
"H>
"H> I can get into single user mode to modify it but where? Where do i make the
"H> changes to tell it it is now hdb?????
"H> or am i hosed??
You need to edit the file '/etc/fstab'. This is a plain text file.
Just do a global replace of /dev/hda to /dev/hdb.
Then reboot again (I am assuming you have a boot floppy or are using a
rescue system), but tell it to boot single user with root=/dev/hdb1 --
check /etc/lilo.conf (MBR on /dev/hda, linux root on /dev/hdb1, entry for
Mess-Win on /dev/hda1) and re-run lilo. You should be all set. Don't
forget to make a new boot floppy.
"H>
"H> TIA to all
"H>
"H>
"H>
"H>
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