Linux-Misc Digest #966, Volume #25 Sat, 7 Oct 00 19:13:02 EDT
Contents:
lm_sensors - a little help? (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Microsoft's Anti Linux Page (Rod Smith)
newbie: printing with staroffice 5.0 ("Johann Georg Hitzler")
Upgrade from Suse 6.4 with kernel 2.2.16 and usb backport to Suse 7.0 worth it?
(Zenmuffin)
Re: LILO on drive a: (Doc)
Re: Error mouting Floopy (Yuri)
display card incompatibility with eDesktop2.4 (diptorupdeb)
Re: login no longer asks for password (The Shadow's Hand)
Re: login no longer asks for password (Bill Unruh)
Re: Linux contra Microsoft (Rafael)
Re: recovering one file on an ext2 filesystem (Markus Wagner)
FS: REDHAT LINUX ("Simon")
Problem with X windows after kernel rebuild ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: any multitrack audio editing software ? (Garry Knight)
Re: Microsoft owns a piece of Corel (Whammalhammadingdongbingbangagogo)
GNOME keyboard mapping question. ("Charles Sullivan")
Suse Linux 6.4 locks up on logout ("Brett W. Denner")
Re: CD-ROM problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Disaster recovery (Juergen Sauer)
Re: XFree86 vs Windows (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Microsoft owns a piece of Corel (Christopher Browne)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: lm_sensors - a little help?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 19:36:13 GMT
Hello All!
First, a bit of background;
When I first got this ASUS P5A-B motherboard and discovered that it had sensor
support (MB + CPU temp, fan speed) I was ecstatic! I immediately researched the
WindowMaker dock apps that supported this feature, but found that I needed
lm_sensors and decided that that seemed like too much work.
Well, something happened to change my vanity desire into a need. My CPU fan is
dying on me. I've installed a chasis fan (that unfortunately is too old to
support the sensor connection) which blows across the CPU, but I'd still like
to monitor the CPU fan speed and CPU temperature to be able to watch for a
signifigant increase in temperature that would call for my scrounging together
the money for a new CPU fan (not a likely prospect at this point in time,
unfortunately :< ).
Anyways; I've got lm_sensors 2.5.2 installed, and have run (as root) the
provided detection application which told me the information I needed to add to
my config files. That information goes as follows;
/etc/modules.conf;
alias char-major-89 i2c-dev
options w83781d ignore=0,0x2d
/sbin/init.d/boot.local;
# I2C adapter drivers
modprobe i2c-ali15x3
modprobe i2c-isa
# I2C chip drivers
modprobe w83781d
modprobe eeprom
Following is the output of running lm_sensors/prog/sensors/sensors;
----- sens begins -----
w83781d-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
Algorithm: ISA algorithm
VCore 1: +2.24 V (min = +2.52 V, max = +3.08 V) ALARM
VCore 2: +2.24 V (min = +2.52 V, max = +3.08 V) ALARM
+3.3V: +3.55 V (min = +2.97 V, max = +3.63 V)
+5V: +4.97 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.48 V)
+12V: +12.08 V (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.11 V)
-12V: -11.54 V (min = -10.78 V, max = -13.18 V)
-5V: -4.88 V (min = -4.50 V, max = -5.48 V)
fan1: 0 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) ALARM
fan2: 0 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) ALARM
fan3: 0 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) ALARM
temp1: +28 C (limit = +60 C, hysteresis = +50 C)
temp2: +41.5 C (limit = +60.0 C, hysteresis = +50.0 C)
temp3: +208.0 C (limit = +60.0 C, hysteresis = +50.0 C)
vid: +3.50 V
alarms: Chassis intrusion detection
beep_enable:
Sound alarm disabled
eeprom-i2c-0-50
Adapter: SMBus ALI15X3 adapter at e800
Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter
Memory type: SDRAM DIMM SPD
SDRAM Size (MB): 64
eeprom-i2c-0-51
Adapter: SMBus ALI15X3 adapter at e800
Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter
Memory type: SDRAM DIMM SPD
SDRAM Size (MB): 64
eeprom-i2c-0-52
Adapter: SMBus ALI15X3 adapter at e800
Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter
Memory type: SDRAM DIMM SPD
SDRAM Size (MB): 32
----- sens ends -----
That's all well and good, and most of it looks correct, except for the fan
speeds, and the fact that I have NO idea what in my box could POSSIBLY be +208
degrees celcius! (That's a tad above the point where sillicon starts to melt,
n'est pas?)
I'm currently running linux-2.4.0-test7 with the lm_sensors support all
compiled as modules, and with the kernel's i2c support compiled also as a
module. My lsmod returns;
Module Size Used by
sb 5988 1 (autoclean)
sb_lib 33460 0 (autoclean) [sb]
uart401 6416 0 (autoclean) [sb_lib]
sound 56140 1 (autoclean) [sb_lib uart401]
soundcore 3844 5 (autoclean) [sb_lib sound]
vmnet 17504 3
vmmon 18372 0 (unused)
8139too 14560 1 (autoclean)
eeprom 3284 0 (unused)
w83781d 17492 0 (unused)
sensors 6300 0 [eeprom w83781d]
i2c-isa 1224 0 (unused)
i2c-ali15x3 4232 0 (unused)
i2c-core 12524 0 [eeprom w83781d sensors i2c-isa i2c-ali15x3]
Now that you've got all the background information, here's what I'm looking
for. I know that I've probably got some tweaking to do in lm_sensors itself,
but I'll also be looking for a suitable dock app in the very near future.
I'm looking for a dock app, or even just an application in general for now,
that will display three things for me; My CPU and MB temperature, accurate to
the tenth of a degree celcius (which my BIOS does support, as does, apparently,
lm_sensors) and the RPM rate of my CPU fan. I'd also like support for the RPM
of my chasis fan, just on the off chance I should upgrade it in the near
future.
Currently, when I run the 'wmlm' application, it tells me that my CPU
temperature is +208oC - obviously inaccurate! I think my CPU temperature is the
temp2 value, and my motherboard temperature is the temp1 value(s) listed above.
I might be able to tweak the wmlm app to display these values correctly, but it
doesn't have a read-out of my fan RPM. (Since lm_sensors doesn't even appear to
see these values correctly, I think I have to look there, first).
If anybody could help me, I'd greatly appreciate it! (And if it results in my
not having to buy a new CPU, I'll possibly send you my old, dead CPU fan as a
symbolic token of my appreciation. <G> ).
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test7
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Microsoft's Anti Linux Page
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 19:38:05 GMT
In article <8rnbjd$7hn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I don't know if anyone's looked at this page before (It's currently on
> Slashdot).
>
> 'Linux cannot deliver on the hype', indeed...
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/news/msnw/LinuxMyths.asp
This is pretty old news. Note the date on the web page: October 4, 1999.
It was discussed extensively a year ago, and quite a few rebuttal pages
cropped up inside of a day or two. I'm sure you could find a bunch of
them still active if you did a web search.
Note: I've redirected followups to the comp.os.linux.advocacy newsgroup,
where this belongs. Don't expect replies from me there, though, since I
don't read it.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: "Johann Georg Hitzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie: printing with staroffice 5.0
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 21:42:07 +0200
I use a Epson Stylus Color 740 printer, red hat 5.2 and staroffice 5.0
How must I install this Printer in staroffice� s psetup ?
"default_quence=lpr" don�t work.
"/etc/printcap=/dev/lp1" don�t work too.
Who can help me ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zenmuffin)
Subject: Upgrade from Suse 6.4 with kernel 2.2.16 and usb backport to Suse 7.0 worth
it?
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 19:45:03 GMT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doc)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,it.comp.os.linux.iniziare,it.comp.os.linux.software
Subject: Re: LILO on drive a:
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 20:05:10 GMT
No big deal; it just weirded me out that the only part I understood was
"Happy99.exe"
I'm pretty sure I'm not posting Happy99 running SLRN on my SuSE box. ;^)
On Sat, 07 Oct 2000 18:03:02 +0200, Andreas Kleer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Doc,
>
>I got this f***ing message too.
>It's from the italian news server, if I understand it right, your -and
>my- answers were deletet from these server because you send your answer
>to more than 3 newsgroups, it's great isn't it ;-)
>
>Andreas
>
--
Doc Shipley
Network Stuff
Austin, Earth
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From: Yuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Error mouting Floopy
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 20:30:06 -0000
My god what a mess you made of this posting! I can hardly read it!
Could you please list the result of `ls -l /dev/fd0`
It should list
brw-rw-rw- 1 user floppy 2, 0 May 5 1998 /dev/fd0
^^^ ^^^
major minor
Check for the right major/minor numbers, if these are wrong, run MAKEDEV
fd0
as root (and are in /dev)
And post the EXACT error message you get. (/mnt/floppy doesn't even have
a major and minor number!)
Eric
I did that command and I got this:
brw-rw---- 1 root floppy 2, 0 May 5 1998 /dev/fd0
I typed MAKEDEV in /dev I get a command not found.
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From: diptorupdeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: display card incompatibility with eDesktop2.4
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 20:30:06 -0000
i recently installed openlinux edesktop2.4 but have been unable to switch
to kde after login an dget this message :
SVGA:32bpp not supported for this chipset.
(i am using a Compaq MV520 color monitor,
the Primary Graphic controller is:Intel 82810e-dc133 graphic controller---
BIOS ver.-20.12)
***A configured device found, but display modes could not be resolved.***
Fatal server error:
no screens found
X connnection to :0.0 broken.
on asking for support to calderasystems they responded :
Unfortunately, the i810 chipset requires a special recompile of the
kernel which falls outside of the scope of our installation support.You
might be able to get it to work at 640x480 at 8 bit color depth
( 256 colors ) out of the box. Run "lizardx" in a terminal and
select the lowest settings you can find and then try testing that
video mode. Let me know if you have any further questions
.
being new to linux i am unable to comprehend this instruction please help
and guide.
diptorupdeb
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From: The Shadow's Hand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: login no longer asks for password
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 20:30:22 GMT
Thomas Hamm wrote:
> Hi seandarcy!
>
> 07 Oct 00 16:29, you wrote to All:
>
> s> When I login on my rh6.2 as root or user it no longer asks me for a
> s> password, but just logs me in.
> s> I created this mess when I installed a new disk and mv'ed /etc.
> s> So...how do i fix it.
>
> passwd root ;)
>
> ! hamm^frozen^tgdt
> -*- http://www.frozenproductions.com
> --- GoldED/LNX 3.0.1-dam2 - the best.
> * Origin: the guild has you ... (2:2471/1445)
>
> .. todessmaessig!
Thanks. I'll try it. It's nice to know something is easy to fix.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: login no longer asks for password
Date: 7 Oct 2000 20:36:42 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Shadow's Hand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]Thomas Hamm wrote:
]> Hi seandarcy!
]> s> When I login on my rh6.2 as root or user it no longer asks me for a
]> s> password, but just logs me in.
]> s> I created this mess when I installed a new disk and mv'ed /etc.
]> s> So...how do i fix it.
]>
]> passwd root ;)
]Thanks. I'll try it. It's nice to know something is easy to fix.
Althought that might give you a root password, it will not tell you wht
happened.
Check the file /etc/shadow.
check the /etc/passwd file.
Check the /etc/pam.d/login file
This behaviour sounds very suspicious and I am haveing a very hard time
imagining how suddenly all users could be allowed to log in without a
password. Another possibility is that someone hacked your system and
replaced login with something which (stupidly) allowed all login.
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux contra Microsoft
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 23:15:36 +0200
That's right.
I think Linux is very good alternative for WIndows NT not for WIndows 98 etc.
I like in Linux that to start server with all network services I do not need
run User Graphical Interface. I do not need to have GUI on all the time like
it is with NT. I really hate it.
Most things in Linux you do using shell and to have Server with all Services
like http, ftp, nntp, smtp, pop, imap etc you do not need GUI.
About Linux GUI:
For example about Gnome , I like it before but not now when it starts to be
more similar to Windows and specially favorites instead the bookmarks. Thus
now, you have to say "bookmark you favorites". So on.......
But at all I very rare use GUI, I hate it.
Rafael
Mark Seavers wrote:
> True, true...
>
> But the fact is that in terms of user-friendliness Linux really is
> behind Windows a bit.
>
> Don't get me wrong - I love Linux, (I'm using it now), but I consider
> myself a reasonably advanced user, and I still find little things
> cropping up that surprise and often confuse me.
>
> I don't think Joe Public out there would have been able to do what I had
> to do in order to get my graphics card (a Hercules 3D Prophet II mx -
> based on the NVidia GeForce 2 MX chipset) working, for example.
>
> Maybe, two or three years down the line, someone (most likely Mandrake,
> SuSE or Caldera) will release a very accessible Linux distribution for
> the masses - but right now it doesn't cut the mustard in that
> environment. If you ask me.
>
> Rafael wrote:
> >
> > To help, we have to make Microsoft people (people using Microsoft
> > products), know the true.
> > Many of them are new Windows users who do not know anything or very
> > little about computers. I work as a System administrator and I have met
> > many people who do not know whats Linux, Unix etc. They think that
> > computer must be with MS Windows, they did not heard about other
> > alternative. And I think that we have to do something otherwise the
> > beatle with Microsoft will last for long time.
> > Every year I have contacts with 100 new computers user and I do good job
> > informing them about it. But still only 10 % understand what I am
> > talking about.
> >
> > Rodger
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From: Markus Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: recovering one file on an ext2 filesystem
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 23:32:30 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Martin,
thank you very much.
This would have been a great tip, but:
The rescue system you mentioned, RIP (Rescue Is Possible) cannot mount
my SCSI drives. Any mount command fails. And I only have standard
devices (Adaptec controller + hd,cdr/cdw, all SCSI).
Markus
Martin Herrman wrote:
>
> On Sat, 07 Oct 2000 07:38:02 +0200, Markus Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I moved (mv -r) the contents of a 4 GB SCSI disk onto another. After
> > that I turned of the original disk and never turned it on again.
> >
> > Now I need to recover one single small zip file from this disk. Since I
> > turned it off after moving, I think the chances that the file was not
> > overwritten are not that bad.
> >
> > But: How can I get it back???
>
> freshmeat.net -> search on 'recovery' -> there is a script that uses all
> ways from the recovery-HOWTO, it is called 'recovery is still possible!'
>
> good luck!
>
> Martin
>
> >
> > Thanks a lot in advance,
> >
> > Markus
>
> --
> Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
> Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.17 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
> 11:40am up 9:05, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.09
> Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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Subject: FS: REDHAT LINUX
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 22:56:10 +0100
Reply-To: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problem with X windows after kernel rebuild
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 22:03:48 GMT
Hope someone here might be able to help with this one.
We rebuilt the kernel on a machine in order to apply a patch, and the
new kernel had a problem. No problem - just reboot the old kernel
right? WRONG!
When we rebooted with the old kernel, the system would not let X come
up. We could telnet and ftp in, but could not log in remotely, even
in a text terminal. If we booted to level 3, it would come up and we
could log in locally.
Any ideas???
We are running RH 6.2 on a P2-400Mhz with 128MB RAM and a C&T 69000
video on an industrial computer CPU board.
Thanks,
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: any multitrack audio editing software ?
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 19:03:41 +0100
On Fri, 06 Oct 2000, Cioni Mario wrote:
>I'ld like to know if there is any multitrack audio editing software for Linux
http://www.jazzzware.com JAZZ++ sequencer
http://mixmagic.sourceforge.net MixMagic sample sequencer
http://beast.grk.org BEAST tracker
http://www.ffem.org/gdam/index.html GDAM digital DJ mixer
Also, search Freshmeat or RPMFind for Tracker and Soundtracker.
--
Garry Knight
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From: Whammalhammadingdongbingbangagogo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft owns a piece of Corel
Date: 07 Oct 2000 15:22:53 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Jordan) writes:
> And CorelDRAW Suite for Linux says right on the box "minimum 200 MHz."
^^^^^^^^^
> It runs even slower.
>
> The problem is that these programs are all running under WINE, which
> adds a layer and slows everything down.
I don't understand this. If it's truly "for Linux", why is it running
under WINE? Or is is not truly "for Linux"?
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNOME keyboard mapping question.
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 22:40:01 GMT
I am running Helix Gnome under RH 6.2 on a PC and using Enlightenment WM.
I have a 2 x 2 array of virtual desktops.
Hitting the <Alt><F10> key causes the active desktop to change from the
Upper Left to the Lower Right desktop.
I'm not sure what useful purpose this serves, and in any case this action
conflicts with some other software I have. How can I disable it?
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Charles Sullivan
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From: "Brett W. Denner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Suse Linux 6.4 locks up on logout
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 22:43:34 GMT
I'm running Suse Linux 6.4 on a Pentium III. Occasionally (say, one
time in ten, on average), my system locks up when I log out of my
account. Are there log files, or some other place, I can look to try to
diagnose the cause of the problem?
Thanks,
Brett
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CD-ROM problem
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 22:40:09 GMT
Another thing I noticed is, first time when I login (not in X), I can
mount the CD. However, once I go into GNOME desktop I cannot mount it.
Even after quitting GNOME (X) I cannot mount till I reboot.
Does it sound/look familiar !!! Please help.
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From: Juergen Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disaster recovery
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:56:26 +0000 (UTC)
Harold A. Mackey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb
am Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:24:03 -0400 in comp.os.linux.misc:
> Gurus
> Just set up a linux server on an old Dell and I am concerned about the
> hardware. I want to implement a good disaster recovery scheme/backup
> scenario for RH 7.0. Trying to run an LDAP server and Apache on this
> machine. I need to be able to re-install the OS and load the ldap dbase and
> /var/www when this old dog dies. Please recommend a good site or
> instructions for basic disaster recovery of files, where to place files in
> the directory, etc.
I do this job like this:
I use a simple script like this:
============x=============x===============x============x=============x======
#!/bin/bash
cd /
tar czf /dev/st0 etc home var [...what ever you need to backup...]
if [ $? -gt 0 ]
(
cat <<EOF
Daesater Backup Tape not written correctly ...
EOF
)|/usr/bin/mail -s "Trouble During Backup `date`" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
============x=============x===============x============x=============x======
In desaster case I boot with a distri CD, Repair mode etc.
catch a shell, insmod my SCSI Drivers (host, disk, tape)
repartion the harddisk, mke2fs (fstab I saved on disk ...),
mounting the disk tree manually into /mnt/ ....
cd /mnt
tar xvzf /dev/st0 ... take a cup of tea ... wait ...
reboot with CD, start installed system, do lilo ... Ready ...
mfg
Jojo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: XFree86 vs Windows
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 23:06:02 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.apps, Steven Thurgood
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Sun, 17 Sep 2000 00:17:00 +0100
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In article <8o58ke$s80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>> I'll try to explain what I mean.
>> Consider a graphics heavy app like say Star Office. Opening the app
>> takes up a lot of time and after it comes up , the motion of the app (
>> suppose I want to move the window or use the side bar to navigate) is
>> very jerky.
>> Consider even Netscape , if we use the sidebar to move up and down , we
>> see that the image changes in jerky. But in Windows ( though I hate to
>> admit it) the motion is perfect. Also any applications , take for
>> instance the Office suite, works perfectly , starts up fast etc.
>> Now the Linux kernel is superior to the Windows kernel , yet there is a
>> problem with the graphics. Where is the problem????
>
>I've noticed something similar to this in that my X doesn't seem to
>buffer (if that's the irght word) the open apps, so that if an app is
>behaving slowly, and I drag something else over it, I see trails of the
>moving app where the underneath app hasn't redrawm itself. I've heard
>that there's an option somewhere to make X remeber what was there, and
>redraw it without the app in question getting involved, but I've no idea
>what it is..
>Is this true?
>
>Cheers
>
>-Steve
xswa.backing_store = WhenMapped;
XCreateWindow(dpy, win, x, y, w, h, border, depth, class, visual,
CWBackingStore, &xswa);
or
XChangeWindowAttributes(dpy, win, CWBackingStore, &xswa);
The trail delay is created by non-responsiveness of the application
to Expose events, or delays in drawing same.
(Side note: you might get even better performance by using XImage,
if you are doing an e.g. pixel-by-pixel rendering of something.
It's very fast locally -- albeit a bit slow over the network. :-)
See /usr/include/X11/Xutil.h and 'man XCreateImage'.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Microsoft owns a piece of Corel
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 23:06:18 GMT
In our last episode (07 Oct 2000 15:22:53 -0700),
the artist formerly known as Whammalhammadingdongbingbangagogo said:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Jordan) writes:
>
>> And CorelDRAW Suite for Linux says right on the box "minimum 200 MHz."
> ^^^^^^^^^
>> It runs even slower.
>>
>> The problem is that these programs are all running under WINE, which
>> adds a layer and slows everything down.
>
>I don't understand this. If it's truly "for Linux", why is it running
>under WINE? Or is is not truly "for Linux"?
By the same token, if requiring a library called libwine somehow implies
that it's not "truly for Linux," then utilizing any of the following
components would similar indicate that software was not made "truly
for Linux":
- XFree86 [used on diverse OSes including OS/2 and various BSDs]
- GLIBC [also used on Hurd and usable on other OSes]
- GTK [usable on *BSD, Win32, possibly even MacOS]
- GNOME [usable on a wide variety of Unix-like systems]
- KDE [also usable on a variety of Unix-like systems]
- GNU File and Binary Utilities [used on many Unix-like systems]
- Tcl-related libraries [Unix, Win32, MacOS]
- Perl, Python [Unix, Win32, MacOS, BeOS]
All the Gnome programs run "under libgnome and libgtk and a cast of
dozens"; all sorts of GUIed applications run "atop XFree86, under
libXt and other such libraries;" those may be assessed blame for an
application "not being truly for Linux."
Presumably "being truly for Linux" means that an application uses
some NON-portable layer that forcibly ties it to Linux. VMWare for
Linux is probably thus tied to Linux...
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