Linux-Misc Digest #986, Volume #18 Thu, 11 Feb 99 15:13:14 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Ralez Armon)
Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0 (Frank Riha)
Re: Linux ("J. S. Jensen")
Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug? ("Tony Friery")
Re: Fax-Server for Linux (David Goldstein)
Re: Circumventing my ISP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: use theramin as input device (Rik van Riel)
General Protection messages (Dave Lugo)
Re: Dial-in TTY ("J. S. Jensen")
Re: Linux running S-L-O-W on an AMS laptop (Ben Russo)
Re: hacked login ("Mitchell Maltenfort")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Jason Hanes)
Re: how to compile and run a c program in linux? (Ben Russo)
Need info on OS case of failure (Malinda Klein)
Re: FTP Problem using Netscape (Ben Russo)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralez Armon)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:50:59 GMT
Sheesh,
what racism.
Got anything against computers?
I can't help being a computer!
We have feelings too, you know!
Just kiddin'.
;) Heh heh.
'Thanks' for the comment, dude! ;)
Peace.
On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 15:19:51 +0000, gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ralez Armon wrote:
>>
>[snip]
>
>>
>> I use WindowsNT, Linux and MacOS. I'm a very experienced computer and
>> I really, REALLY know what I'm talking about. My most favourite is
>> MacOS. HOLD IT! Let me finish before you jump on me, but nevermind,
>> you probably already stopped reading this.
>
>[snip]
>
>I know it is just a typo, but I always find it amusing when a person
>decides to make intelligent arguments and then makes a blunder like this
>one ...
>
>"I'm a very experienced computer and I really, REALLY know what I'm
>talking about."
>
>Maybe this is a contender for alt.humor.best-of-usenet.
>
>gus
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From: Frank Riha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0
Date: 10 Feb 1999 13:34:27 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry) writes:
> On 09 Feb 1999 22:38:41 -0500, David Steuber wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Salgo) writes:
> >
> >-> Kinda scary, huh?
> >
> >Kinda funny. Microsoft has the right and the resources to create a
> >commercial Linux distribution. They never will though.
> >
> >I wonder if anyone would buy it?
>
> Would kinda be neat to have as a war trophy. :-)
>
yea, but there would never be a version 1.0, it would start at 6.0, or
6.2 or something. Probably one higher than the latest RH release.
fdr
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From: "J. S. Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Linux
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:58:52 -0700
Dustin Puryear wrote:
> At the central office we maintain a database created with proprietary
> software written for our SCO OpenServer server...All of the users really
> just need console based access to the information.
> 1 - setup a small network in the branch, where all machines are connected
> to the Linux machine
Yes, just have the Linux machine as a default gateway either for the entire
local network, or just a particular subnet.
> 2 - have Linux setup to call our server whenever a client machine needed
Use a dial-on-demand mechanism. diald works.
> 3 - have Linux use TCP/IP since this would allow more than one person to
PPP or SLIP the connection to a home-office linux box.
> I am curious if someone has been in this situation. If so, I would like
> to hear some feedback.
The Linux boxen (hate that word :-) that does the routing at the remote
sites need be nothing special. 386s w/ 8meg ram is what I think. The
dial-in server might need to have more RAM becaus each ppp daemon takes just
less than a meg each. However, how do you connect to the SCO box now?
Telnet'ing?
--
J. S. Jensen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Paramin.COM
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From: "Tony Friery" <tony_@_basoft_d0t_enta_d0t_net>
Subject: Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug?
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: 10 Feb 1999 16:02:25 GMT
I also had trouble using Loadlin *before* Win. Had to do reboot to DOS
after windows before LOADLIN. Never did find out why, though, but perhaps
this was due to my HP 7100+ CD Writer which required initialising before
Linux would recognise it, and unfortunately it was the drivers in Win which
did this (Don't have any trouble with an 8100 though)! This was just a
plain vanilla P166 64MB machine with *no* P&P cards or anyhing else weird.
Tony.
Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Javier Pulido wrote:
>
> > ��SOS!!
> >
> > Problems with the booting of linux in a computer AMD K6-2 (300 MHz)
with
> > i430TX (no AGP) and 128 MB, two hard drives and 1 CDROM. Can you help
me?
> >
[Snip]
>
> I have heard of someone who ran loadlin similar to you (boot into win,
then
> restart in dos mode) and it wouldn't work. It did work, however, if they
didn't
> boot into win first - do a cold boot, and when it says starting windows
9x, hist
> the F8 key, and choose "Command Prompt Only", or even better (probably
more
> likely to work:): "Safe Mode Command Prompt Only." The latter will
totally skip
[Lots Snipped]
> >
> > I only can boot linux in three steps:
> >
> > 1> loading Windows95
> >
> > 2> Restart in MSDOS MODE
> > 3> loadlin kernel2.2 /dev/hdc3 no-hlt (root in /dev/hdc3)
>
>
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From: David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fax-Server for Linux
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:55:08 -0700
"Scheu, Bernd" wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a fax-server-software for Linux that allows to send and
> receive faxes via an ISDN-adaptor and uses SMTP/POP3/IMAP for
> transmission from and to the client. It would further be nice if there
> would be the possibility to integrate the FAX-Server into Microsoft
> Outlook 97.
> Thanks in advance.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks again.
You need to make sure that the ISDN adapter is active, and not a
passive type adapter. FAX will not work with a passive ISDN adapter :(
Since you are in Germany, you would be familiar with the Fritz B-1
card. This is the one that you need; of course, it does cost a lot
more.
David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Circumventing my ISP
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:05:59 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kevin Currie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am wonderring if anyone can help me find a way to circumvent some
> firewalling my ISP is doing.
[..]
> Now this setup the ISP has is all fine and dandy for Windows users, but I'd
> love to be able to telnet/ftp to my machine from remote computers to do
> things like get my mail and transfer files and such.
Maybe your ISP bloks most known ports like my ISP.
What I did was this:
change the port number of ftp in /etc/services (from 21 to 12121)
kill -HUP (pid of inetd)
Now you can ftp to this machine with:
ftp ipaddress 12121
But you can't ftp to this machine using the usual port
I haven't tried getting ftp to listen to two ports.
The same works for telnet
jaap
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From: Rik van Riel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: use theramin as input device
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:18:55 +0100
On 5 Feb 1999, Jehan Sappideen wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.development.system Rik van Riel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : What kind of interface will it use to the computer,
> : serial, joystick or something else?
>
> : Or, to put it another way: what kind of an interface
> : would it need to be useful to us?
>
> What exactly would be expected of the therEmin? I've building and
> experimenting with them for a few months now, and one thing I can
> say authoritatively is that ABSOLUTE positioning is quite hard to
> do, and in addition the effective range is generally limited to
> 5->30 cm away from the antenna ( too close and the capacitance
> increases exponentially, too far and it becomes unresponsive).
> Changes in position are easier to detect, so perhaps a more basic
> plan might involve utilizing this aspect.
So wizardry games it is, then?
Rik -- If a Microsoft product fails, who do you sue?
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From: Dave Lugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: General Protection messages
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:12:09 -0500
On a box I have:
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel: general protection: 0000
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel: CPU: 0
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel: EIP: 0010:[dcache_add+186/404]
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel: EFLAGS: 00010202
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel: eax: 00000004 ebx: 01682500 ecx:
00000000 edx: 401d4e7c
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel: esi: 001d1d54 edi: 000007e3 ebp:
001d4f14 esp: 046a6eb4
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs:
002b ss: 0018
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel: Process ksh (pid: 1694, process nr: 39,
stackpage=046a6000)
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel: Stack: 04f185b0 01682500 bfffe838
000001b4 00000801 001d1d54 00154d8b 01682500
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel:04f185b0 00000004 000007e3 02c66198
00000f5d bfffe838 bffff7c0 04f185a8
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel:00000198 00000000 00000001 01682500
00000000 00000000 01682500 012e4000
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel: Call Trace: [ext2_readdir+1199/1568]
[proc_lookup+193/316] [sys_getdents+151/200] [filldir+0/164]
[system_call+85/124]
Feb 10 10:51:10 penguin kernel: Code: 39 32 75 16 8b 46 2c 89 02 5b 5e
5f 5d 83 c4 08 c3 90 89 54
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: general protection: 0000
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: CPU: 0
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: EIP: 0010:[dcache_add+186/404]
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: EFLAGS: 00010202
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: eax: 0000000b ebx: 01682500 ecx:
00000000 edx: 401d4e7c
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: esi: 001d1d54 edi: 00000010 ebp:
001d4efc esp: 013f4eb4
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs:
002b ss: 0018
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: Process vi (pid: 1763, process nr: 45,
stackpage=013f4000)
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: Stack: 04f18618 01682500 bfffe784
00000224 00000801 001d1d54 00154d8b 01682500
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: 04f18618 0000000b 00000010
075a13b8 00000f5d bfffe784 bffff70c 04f18610
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: 000001fc 00000000 0112a700
0015635b 00000000 00000000 001247f9 0112a700
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: Call Trace: [ext2_readdir+1199/1568]
[ext2_put_inode+11/104] [iput+205/400] [proc_lookup+193/316]
[nfs_proc_create+209
/476] [sys_getdents+151/200] [filldir+0/164]
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: [system_call+85/124]
Feb 10 10:51:35 penguin kernel: Code: 39 32 75 16 8b 46 2c 89 02 5b 5e
5f 5d 83 c4 08 c3 90 89 54
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: general protection: 0000
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: CPU: 0
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: EIP: 0010:[dcache_add+186/404]
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: EFLAGS: 00010202
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: eax: 0000000b ebx: 01682500 ecx:
00000000 edx: 401d4e7c
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: esi: 001d1d54 edi: 00000010 ebp:
001d4efc esp: 04ec7eb4
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs:
002b ss: 0018
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: Process vi (pid: 1765, process nr: 45,
stackpage=04ec7000)
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: Stack: 04f18618 01682500 bfffec0c
00000224 00000801 001d1d54 00154d8b 01682500
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: 04f18618 0000000b 00000010
02c661dc 00000f5d bfffec0c bffffb94 04f18610
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: 000001fc 00000000 0112a700
0015635b 00000000 00000000 001247f9 0112a700
Feb 10 10:51:44 penguin kernel: Call Trace: [ext2_readdir+1199/1568]
[ext2_put_inode+11/104] [iput+205/400] [proc_lookup+193/316]
[nfs_proc_create+209
/476] [sys_getdents+151/200] [filldir+0/164]
PPro200, 128MB, Buslogic Flashpoint, 2.0.36
I ended up rebooting the box because 'vi' stopped working (segfault or
such) and telnet would
die, kicking me out).
Any suggestions appreciated!
Dave
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Systems/Network Admin. | http://www.stk.com
Analytical Graphics Inc. | (610)578-1000
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From: "J. S. Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dial-in TTY
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:06:56 -0700
Randy wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how to set up a modem to act as a dial in tty for a
> serial termial that will run a 38400 baud
A serial terminal doesn't need a modem. If you want a terminal, read up
on the getty's (man agetty), and put the appropriate line in /etc/inittab
(actually, there's probably already one there).
Otherwise, you'll want to get mgetty and do almost the exact same thing,
except set the controlling terminal to /dev/ttyS? (your modem) and set
your speed (38.4k)
--
J. S. Jensen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Paramin.COM
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux running S-L-O-W on an AMS laptop
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:48:35 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, folks -
>
> The subject line says it all, basically. I've made a dual-boot machine
> (via LILO) that lets me run Lose95 and Linux... and comparable apps
> (Netscape, RealPlayer, etc.) run like a D-A-W-G in Linux; RealPlayer
> can't even get past the first couple of frames in videos.
>
> To put it mildly... after spending *weeks* downloading, installing,
> recompiling Linux... I'm a little disappointed. :)
>
> There's one clue, though. I don't know how much reliance I'd put on
> this, but the BogoMIPS rating for this thing is only 59.18 - someone
> else on the "Linux Laptop Homepage" reported a rating of 599.65 for
> a somewhat better AMS machine (300MHz/64MB vs. my 166MHz/16MB). Erm...
> a 3-to-1 rating diff wouldn't have bugged me, but 10-to-1? I've tried
> just about everything I could think of (not much, that is): I've even
> allocated 200MB+ for a swap partition... No effect.
>
> BTW, memory for AMS laptops is priced out of reach of normal
> humans... and 16MB, though somewhat skimpy, should still give
> decent results. <Shrug> It does under Windows, and if _that_
> pig can produce good results with it...
>
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated - especially if e-mailed to
> thor<at>viaccess.net (Deja has proven sorta flaky...)
>
> Ben
> -=-
>
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You should run ps -aux and see what all you are running.
Also run a top and see what memory is doing. (top 6 lines of top).
By default most linux installs have tons of stuff you don't really need.
For example, comment out all but the first 2 mingetty's from inittab.
(do you really need 6 VC's?)
You may be running all kinds of stuff you don't have to, like Sendmail,
Bind, HTTPd, rpc.mountd, rpc.nfsd.
You can control these by using "tksysv" to control your SysV init.
If you are running an XDM stop it. Just login and type startx instead.
16MB RAM is a little small for running X, it is do-able, but will
be slow.
Linux does have more overhead for applications like Netscape than
Windows does. Linux/X is a multi-user, multi-tasking, networked windowing
system. Windows is a single-user, time-slice based tasking, system with
one console.
The BOGO-mips are BOGUS. They really don't mean a thing with
respect to system performance. For example I have a 233 MHz K6
machine at home that reads 466 BOGO-mips, and my 400MHz Xeon
system at the office reads 400 BOGO-mips, but it is like comparing a
386/33 to a PPro200.
You probably don't need to be running atd or gpm or httpd, or
nfs/nfsfs, pcmcia, portmap, smb, sendmail, or ypbind.
Clean up these daemons and background processes, then see.
-Ben.
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From: "Mitchell Maltenfort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: hacked login
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:20:30 -0700
>It sounds like some one used ROOT-kit on you computer, tehey did the same
>on my PC, i had to reinstall all becouse he also planted a backdoor
>(check) he also replaced a hacked inetd so he can log in not to be
>detected he can also replace ls, ps, etc... check
>http://www.rootshell.com/ for the rootkit and unpack it en read the readme
>and you be dazzeled ehat it can do...
>
I checked out rootshell and was surprised, although at my end of the
learning curve it looked more like an ammo dump than a bomb shelter.
I did a search on rootkit and was surprised to only see ways to download it.
Is there any way to block it?
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From: Jason Hanes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:41:31 -0500
LOL....That would be like the Y2K thing...we are not supposed to kill
our computers, we have to get the others!
LOL...download! He's an alien news spy that just slipped up while
typing....LOL
Buckaroo Banzai wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (djb) writes:
> [cut]
> > *BEEP* Pedant point! The US is not a first-world country. It's a
> [snip]
> > Anyway, I think we should be grateful to the Americans. After all, didn't
> > they save us all by downloading a virus onto an alien operating
> > system? We old-worlders never thought of THAT one, did we?
>
> *BOOP* Pedant point!
>
> Upload, man. He uploaded it. He woulda haf to haf bin 'n ALIEN to
> download ... duh.
>
> Maybe old-worlders would have thought of it, but they would have wiped
> out the wrong system, obviously.
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to compile and run a c program in linux?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:27:39 -0500
@erols.com wrote:
> How do i compile and run a c program in linux?
> Tried cc hello.c and a.out, but get an error a.out
> command not found...
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jerry
What distribution of Linux did you install?
When you run:
[brusso@linux brusso]$ rpm -qa | egrep "cc|libc"
What do you see?
You should see something like the following:
glibc-2.0.7-29
byacc-1.9-8
gcc-2.7.2.3-14
glibc-devel-2.0.7-29
Try the compile command like follows:
gcc -o hello hello.c
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From: Malinda Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need info on OS case of failure
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:11:10 -0600
I'm a graduate student who is writing a paper on an operating system
failure. I must identify and discuss a genuine case where a
technological flaw in the OS resulted in loss or complete failure.
Can anyone recommend such a case? Anyone seen articles on this?
Email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP Problem using Netscape
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:33:18 -0500
John Podmayersky wrote:
> I have a linux 5.1 box with ftp running and have a strange problem. When I
> use command prompt FTP or programs like WS_FTP I end up in the proper home
> directory when I log into the server. When I use Netscape to get in, it
> puts me at /. Very puzzling, any ideas/help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Podmayersky
You probably have an anonymous FTP server set up on your linux box
by default.
Netscape is logging in anonymously? (unless you put special command
parameters in the URL) and this is causing the FTP process to be chroot
to the anon-ftp-root-dir.
BTW it is not linux 5.1 it is RedHat 5.1
-Ben.
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