Linux-Misc Digest #986, Volume #19 Thu, 29 Apr 99 14:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Problems connecting PSION 3a to Linux, with p3nfs 5.4 (Jeroen Eitjes)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (jedi)
Mail forwarding ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WordStar (or equiv.) on LINUX? (Alan Gauld)
Re: Compiling problems on RH5.2 (Brandon)
Re: Time Synchronization (Christopher Browne)
Re: Backing up the system (Edward Vigmond)
WordStar (or equiv.) on LINUX? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DVD movies on Linux ? (Adam Gifford)
Re: Where is top? (The CPU process monitoring utility) (Paul Kimoto)
Strange modprobe problem... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Automating Dynamic DNS Registration after PPP (Alex Yung)
Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft (Donn Miller)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to "GNU Communism") (Matthias Warkus)
Re: WordStar (or equiv.) on LINUX? (Mike Romans)
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From: Jeroen Eitjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems connecting PSION 3a to Linux, with p3nfs 5.4
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:28:23 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Leiden Institute of Chemistry, Gorlaeus Laboratories.
Leiden University;Einsteinweg 55 / P.O. Box 9502 2300RA, Leiden The
Netherlands.
Phone: +31 71 5274400 TeleFax: +31 71 5274537
Department: Phone: +31 71 527
Jeroen Eitjes: Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am a happy user of the PSION 3a for some time, and I never had any
trouble connecting my psion to my Windows 95 computer. (486
dx 80). A few weeks ago I switched over completely to S.U.S.E. Linux
6.0. I downloaded p3nfs version 5.4 so I could continue using mij
Psi-link with Linux, but somehow it seems impossible to compile the
sourcecode of p3nfs 5.4 on my computer. I tried the following:
- (1) running the Configure script included in the p3nfs package, which
seems to run fine.
- (2) running $>'make' in the folder where I unpacked p3nfs.
I tried it several times, but I always get a lot of error messages when
the linker tries to link my standard nfs.h file, which is of course
provided by SUSE linux. Thus something appears to be wrong with my nfs.h
file. I wonder if I can get somewhere an correctly linkable
nfs.h file or is there another solution. What am I doing wrong?
I would really like some help with this, because I really like both
Linux (development really nice) and Psion (comes in handy travelling by
train etc.)
Thank you,
Jeroen
P.S. I scripted my efforts compiling p3nfs 5.4 and attached the script
file to this message.
Script started on Fri Apr 16 13:00:02 1999
bash-2.02# configure
bash: configure: command not found
bash-2.02# sh configure
loading cache ./config.cache
this is p3nfs version 5.4a
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for gcc... /usr/bin/gcc
checking for AIX... no
checking for socket in -lsocket... no
checking for gethostbyname in -lnsl... yes
checking for svcudp_create in -lrpcsoc... no
checking for mount table... /etc/mtab
checking for default serial line... /dev/ttyS0
checking for sys/ioctl.h... yes
checking for sys/errno.h... yes
checking for sys/ttold.h... no
checking for stdlib.h... yes
updating cache /dev/null
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
creating nfsd/Makefile
creating include/defs.h
creating include/config.h
include/config.h is unchanged
bash-2.02# make
cd nfsd; make all
make[1]: Entering directory `/p3nfs-5.4/nfsd'
gcc -O2 -Wall -I../include -c mp_inode.c -o mp_inode.o
In file included from ../include/nfs_prot.h:7,
from mp_inode.c:2:
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:126: parse error before `u_int'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:126: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or
union
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:127: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:132: parse error before `u_int'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:132: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or
union
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:133: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:134: parse error before `uid'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:134: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:135: parse error before `gid'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:135: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:136: parse error before `size'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:136: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:137: parse error before `blocksize'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:137: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:138: parse error before `rdev'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:138: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:139: parse error before `blocks'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:139: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:140: parse error before `fsid'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:140: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:141: parse error before `fileid'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:141: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:144: `ctime' redeclared as different kind of
symbol
/usr/include/time.h:202: previous declaration of `ctime'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:145: parse error before `}'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:148: parse error before `u_int'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:148: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or
union
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:149: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:150: parse error before `gid'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:150: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:151: parse error before `size'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:151: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:154: parse error before `}'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:157: parse error before `u_int'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:157: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or
union
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:161: parse error before `}'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:164: parse error before `u_int'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:164: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or
union
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:165: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:166: parse error before `blocks'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:166: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:167: parse error before `bfree'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:167: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:168: parse error before `bavail'
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:168: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:152: storage size of `atime' isn't known
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:153: storage size of `mtime' isn't known
/usr/include/linux/nfs.h:144: storage size of `ctime' isn't known
make[1]: *** [mp_inode.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/p3nfs-5.4/nfsd'
make: *** [all] Error 2
bash-2.02# exit
Script done on Fri Apr 16 13:03:12 1999
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:55:51 -0700
On 29 Apr 1999 10:11:41 GMT, Donal K. Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Pete Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[...]
>> (why does nobody copy a book? because to do it
>> effieciently takes a large investment in plant;
>[...]
>
>Not actually the case. There have been problems with both the use of
>photocopiers and scanners to copy a book wholesale. IP is *very*
>complex. Important too. Charlie Stross's mini-essay is actually
>pretty good.
One of the cabal's I was once acquainted with did
precisely that when they copied the software. They
also photocopied the manuals too.
Although, all that is peanuts when compared to the
photocopied 'texts' that were commonly used at my
alma mater. (not whole books mind you just bits and
pieced pulled from to and fro)
--
Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
A little spite is more than justified. / | \
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mail forwarding
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:53:46 GMT
Qmail is a great in the way you can do:
echo "<my email addy>" > .qmail-<username>
and I can have an email address alias for the domain that points to the
Is there anything that does this too but DOESN'T involve qmail. The systemms
administrator has a large reluctance to install qmail and won't be budged so I
need something that does pretty much the same as above.
Can anyone help?
Rich
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From: Alan Gauld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordStar (or equiv.) on LINUX?
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:34:08 +0100
Bill Horne wrote:
> It's fairly easy to modify the key mappings in emacs.
I have an oldish wordstar.el for anyone who wants it.
Also doesn't joe use wordstar keymappings?
Alan G.
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the views of BT.
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:44:05 -0400
From: Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling problems on RH5.2
Benjamin C. wrote:
>
> I'm running...
> RH5.2 with kernel 2.0.36
> egcs 2.91.66
> XFree86 3.3.2
>
> Ever since, I last reinstalled linux on my system, I've been getting
> problems compiling programs
did u remember to install X development package ? I had not instaleld
that package and was having trouble compiling something, i forgot what
now but Xdev package was needed and I found that out later on from a
friend of mine so be sure u have that installed.
> for X. The main problem I have is that during the compiling process,
> certain ".h" cannot be found.
> The header files it mostly has problems finding are:
> #include<Xos.h>
> #include<Xlib.h>
>
> Now, I know that the < > means the compiler searches in it's standard
> library directories for those files, but I don't know where they are and
> I've tried using "find" on my system to find them and it can't.
> Q1: How can I find out where the compiler's standard libraries/header
> files for X are?
>
> I have looked in my .usr/X11R6/lib/X11 directory, but it doesn't seem to
> contain any pertinent files.
>
> For a specific compiling situation:
> I've been trying to compile xanim-2.80.1.0.
> When I do the make xanim, I get these errors:
>
> egcs -I. -O4 -m486 -DXSHM -DXA_DLL
> -DXA_DLL_PATH=\"/usr/local/xanim/mods\" -DXA_ZLIB -DXA_GSM
> -DXA_LINUX_AUDIO -DXA_PETUNIA -DXA_KPCD -I/usr/X11R6/include
> -I/usr/X11R6/include/X11 -c xanim.c
> In file included from xanim.c:62:
> xanim.h:18: Xos.h: No such file or directory
> In file included from xanim.c:62:
> xanim.h:46: Xlib.h: No such file or directory
> xanim.c:63: Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
> xanim.c:64: StringDefs.h: No such file or directory
> xanim.c:65: Shell.h: No such file or directory
> xanim.c:98: X11/extensions/XShm.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [xanim.o] Error 1
>
> ...all the include statements are < >
>
> If anyone has had similar problems and/or has a solution, please let me
> know.
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Ben
Brandon
--
"Bill Gates?, I dont know any Bill Gates. Oh, you mean 'by putting
every conceivable
feature into an OPERATING SYSTEM, whether you want it or not, is
innovation' Bill
Gates? Yeah, I know the monopolizer"
http://web.mountain.net/~brandon/main.htm
For Beginners in Linux, Emulation, Midis, Playstation Info, and
Virii.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Time Synchronization
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:05:50 GMT
On 28 Apr 1999 14:55:02 +0200, Villy Kruse
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>Put samba on the linux server and then have the windows
>>machines do "net time \\linux-server-name /set /y"
>
>
>After you enable the samba server in /etc/smb.conf to also function as
>a time server.
>
> time server = yes
You probably want to make sure that the Linux box is being
synchronized with a time server first.
"netdate" may be used to do one-time time syncs; in order to keep the
time on the Linux box more stable, you might want to have the Linux
box run an NTP server, and sync to time servers over the Internet.
See: <http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp>
NTP can function reasonably happily even if the Linux box only has
intermittent connections to the Internet (and thus to the time servers
that it's syncing to).
The NTP software distribution is available in prepackaged form for
various distributions, certainly including Debian and Red Hat...
--
"Java and C++ make you think that the new ideas are like the old ones.
Java is the most distressing thing to hit computing since MS-DOS."
-- Alan Kay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/ipmiscprotocols.html>
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From: Edward Vigmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backing up the system
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:23:07 GMT
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> "Robear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Excuse me if this has been covered, but after three years without touching
> > Unix, I've lost all skills.
> >
> > My Question:
> > What is the easiest way to backup the system to a DAT drive.
> >
> > I know I should use TAR or CPIO, but can't remember the full command
>
> assuming tape drive is /dev/st0, set the TAPE environment variable to
> it.
>
> $ export TAPE=/dev/st0
>
> then just do
>
> $ tar c /
or you could use the dump command.
--
Ed Vigmond
Institut de Genie Biomedical, Universite de Montreal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WordStar (or equiv.) on LINUX?
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:16:48 GMT
Help, please.
I know someone who would like to switch to LINUX. Because he can type 100 WPM
and knows WordStar for DOS better than his phone number, he would like to know
if a version of WordStar, with control diamond (Ctrl+S, Ctrl+E, Ctrl+X, and
Ctrl+D) functionality, exists for LINUX. Or, an equivalent. I looked into
StarOffice, it looks like it came out of StarWriter.
Does anyone know what became of WordStar? Has anyone heard of someone buying
WordStars assets or code or the rights thereto?
Or, can he just run WordStar in a DOS window? He needs this as an
honest-to-God word processor, not a text editor.
I would appreciate any help you can provide.
THANKS!
Tom (A newbie and I know it. I appreciate your patience.) Karel
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From: Adam Gifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: DVD movies on Linux ?
Date: 29 Apr 1999 13:25:58 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.x Micheal MacCana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Roy,
>> I've got a DVD drive too. Apparently, there's no way to read DVD-ROM or
>> movie disks on Linux. At the speed of Linux development, however, this will
>> surely change in at most nine months though.Does anyone know of such plans?
> Somebody is working on a UDF filesystem driver, which seems to be the main
> prerequisite for DVD support. See http://trylinux.com/projects/udf/
> Martin
> --
> Dr. Martin Kroeker, daVeg GmbH Darmstadt CAD/CAM/CAQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if i am not mistaken a udf driver will only allow dvd-rom discs to be
read. DVD video is a proprietary format and to get access to the specs
$$$ has to be handed over and nda's and all that. From what i have read
dvd video will not be available under linux for a long while.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Where is top? (The CPU process monitoring utility)
Date: 29 Apr 1999 13:45:55 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7ga32p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Cochrane wrote:
> Does anyone know of a site (preferably in the US) that has the source code
> for top available for download?
Here is the LSM entry for procps:
: Begin3
: Title: procps
: Version: 2.0.2
: Entered-date: 03APR99
: Description: Procps is a library which parses the textual /proc filesystem
: and a suite of utilites which use the library.
: Keywords: procps /proc libproc
: ps uptime tload free w top vmstat watch skill snice kill
: Author: Michael K. Johnson, Charles Blake, Albert Cahalan, many others.
: Maintained-by: Michael K. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Primary-site: tsx-11.mit.edu /pub/linux/sources/usr.bin/
: 185kB procps-2.0.2.tar.gz
: Alternate-site: sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/system/Status/ps
: 185kB procps-2.0.2.tar.gz
: Copying-policy: mixed
: End
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Strange modprobe problem...
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:27:30 GMT
I'm currently running RedHat v5.2 w/Linux kernel 2.2.7 and having the
infamous "modprobe: can't locate module..." problem. Like previous posts
have mentioned before, I looked through all the FAQ's and messages I could
find to solve this, but my situation appears to be unique.
My particular message repeats numerous times when booting the kernel and says:
modprobe: can't locate module eth0:0
modprobe: can't locate module eth0:1
modprobe: can't locate module eth0:2
...And so on, until it counts all the way up to 49.
Right after this, it shows the module for my Intel EtherExpress 10/100 card
loading just fine (which seems to work perfectly, BTW). The other strange
occurance is right after this, I get yet another message that says:
modprobe: can't locate module lo:0
modprobe: can't locate module lo:1
modprobe: can't locate module lo:2
...And so on, until it counts up to 40.
Everything on my system seems to work just fine. I just can't figure out why
this just started happening. It actually first appeared yesterday with Linux
kernel 2.2.6 and continues with 2.2.7. The only thing I changed was removing
on old ISA based SoundBlaster 16 PNP card and adding a new SoundBlaster PCI
128. I compiled the kernel to support the new card and removed support for
the old card. Also, since I'm no longer running any ISA based cards, I
removed support for ISAPNP.
Any help with this matter would be GREATLY appreciated!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Yung)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Automating Dynamic DNS Registration after PPP
Date: 29 Apr 1999 17:14:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I've setup my Linux box with a dyanic dns and have gotten it to update the
: dynamic DNS server manually. I'd, ideally, like to have this happen
: automatically each time my ISP kicks off my connection and PPP redials. It
: is a simple perl script that registers the IP. Where would be the best
: place to put a call to this script?
$ cat /etc/ppp/ip-up
#!/bin/sh
#
# $Id: ip-up,v 1.1 1996/01/31 21:25:59 alvar Exp $
#
# This script is run by the pppd after the link is established.
# It should be used to add routes, set IP address, run the mailq
# etc.
#
# This script is called with the following arguments:
# Arg Name Example
# $1 Interface name ppp0
# $2 The tty ttyS1
# $3 The link speed 38400
# $4 Local IP number 12.34.56.78
# $5 Peer IP number 12.34.56.99
#
# The environment is cleared before executing this script
# so the path must be reset
#
/usr/sbin/rdate timeserver@isp
# last line
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:59:12 -0400
On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Jesus Monroy, Jr. wrote:
> Don,
> Somewhere below you said 'maybe I shouldn't have brought
> this up in cubfm', well you shouldn't. This is as they say,
> "FUD" material. Frustrate, undermind and demoralize.
> By continuing this thread, on any channel, you are helping
> the M$ cause.
>
> When I saw the subject line, I was tempted to cry M$
> cronie, but I saw your name attached. :-)
> With no room for doubt, M$ rigded the test. This "test"
> is more than a phoney benchmark comparison; it is also a
> "test" and benchmarch of community respone.
>
> Point being that if such a attach was taken against
> a commerical company, they would in fact be frustrated.
> Why? Just consider what actions are left to both the CTO
> and the head of R&D. They can't respond in person, they are
> too busy and if they did it would validate the M$ test.
Oh no, I didn't think about that. I should have known when it said
engineers worked all day "tweaking NT" and did nothing to Linux. Also,
they wouldn't allow some "Linux experts" into the testing environment. I
guess this is what they mean by "FUD" material.
I thought it looked suspicious. NT perform better than Linux? Ha ha ha!
OK, I've learned my lesson... I shouldn't have brought this up. :-(
Donn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to "GNU Communism")
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:30:46 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:53:14 -0700...
..and Jim Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So to return to the topic...
Good intention.
> I haven't yet read anyone mentioning the suffering caused by "GNU Communism".
>
> For example, no longer can companies make money selling a UNIX port
> or a C++ compiler, now that gcc and Linux is freely spreading like gonorrhea.
Of course they can. They can sell gcc. What do you think Cygnus make a
living of?
> Those companies once used to provide jobs and salaries, which are now gone.
Well, if they failed to realise that the choice is to
- either sell gcc or
- develop a better alternative,
they deserved to die.
mawa
--
Ich kann mich noch ganz genau daran erinnern, als ich von meinem
Kanzler das erste Subventionsbonbon bekam. Es waren W�hler's Original,
bar und zinslos und unvergleichlich gut. Und ich wu�te sofort: Du
w�hlst jemanden, f�r den du etwas ganz Besonderes bist.
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From: Mike Romans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordStar (or equiv.) on LINUX?
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:55:21 -0500
I didn't use WordStar but I was a user of the old Borland DOS IDE's and they use
WordStar commands. I was very used to this so I use joe on Linux. Same
keystrokes (WS) and is very small. You might have him take a look and see if
this gives him what he needs.
Mike Romans
Wolf's Communication Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Help, please.
>
> I know someone who would like to switch to LINUX. Because he can type 100 WPM
> and knows WordStar for DOS better than his phone number, he would like to know
> if a version of WordStar, with control diamond (Ctrl+S, Ctrl+E, Ctrl+X, and
> Ctrl+D) functionality, exists for LINUX. Or, an equivalent. I looked into
> StarOffice, it looks like it came out of StarWriter.
>
> Does anyone know what became of WordStar? Has anyone heard of someone buying
> WordStars assets or code or the rights thereto?
>
> Or, can he just run WordStar in a DOS window? He needs this as an
> honest-to-God word processor, not a text editor.
>
> I would appreciate any help you can provide.
>
> THANKS!
>
> Tom (A newbie and I know it. I appreciate your patience.) Karel
>
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ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
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sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
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