Linux-Misc Digest #986, Volume #20 Sat, 10 Jul 99 03:13:29 EDT
Contents:
automated ftp ("Michael Smith")
TIFF problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Kernel question (Ian Ishmael)
Re: Ha! (IHXO)
reclaiming an unsed Linux partition for BeOS? (Jeffrey Bell)
Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work (Lev Babiev)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Jim Richardson)
Re: embedded computers (Mohd H Misnan)
Re: Anybody got EPSON Stylus Color 640 or 850 ---------- (Justin B Willoughby)
Re: kpackage won't install on RH 6.0. Help!! (Albert Wagner)
DNS Problems ("Steven L. Dahlin")
KDE Defaukt WM on RH 6.0 (Al)
Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something) ("Binesh Bannerjee")
Raw Partitons ("tangui")
Re: .bashrc, .bash_profile, .profile - which do I use? (ed ngai)
Free TurboCluster CD with Performance Computing (John Forkosh)
Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something) (Chris Mahmood)
Help on boot disk ("Patrick Smith")
Re: Can't eliminate Netscape error message ("William H. Pridgen")
Re: Recommended First Linux Books- online and off (ed ngai)
tar always thinks it is 1969 ("Frederick W. Reimer, Sr.")
Linux (Coder69)
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From: "Michael Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: automated ftp
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:40:23 -0400
Is there a way in Linux to automate a ftp session?
In <bad word> NT, you can issue 'ftp -s xxxx.txt ftp.myserver.com', where
xxxx.txt is a 'ftp script'.
i.e.
REM ftp script: xxxx.txt
user me
pass mypass
cd /pub/coolstuff
binary
lcd dwnload
get coolthing.exe
close
REM end of xxx.txt
'man ftp' doesn't mention a *script*
Thanks.
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TIFF problem
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 03:43:18 GMT
I create TIFF files using xv on Linux. When I open those TIFFs on
a Windows system, the size information is corrupted. For example,
one of my TIFFs is 98x302 pixels, or about 1.5x4.0 inches. When I
view it with PaintShop/Win95, it says the image is 0.08x0.25 inches,
at 1200 pixels per inch.
I have a vague recollection that Linux and Windows interpret some
of the TIFF header fields differently, which might account for the
problem. Does anyone have a solution for this?
Regards,
Bob Rankin
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Ishmael)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Kernel question
Date: 10 Jul 1999 04:29:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 8 Jul 1999 20:00:40 GMT, Tabman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:55:30 GMT, Chris Raper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>But I have another much more serious problem. I working in DOS, writting
>>>to my D: drive ( /dev/hda2 ). When I rebooted into Linux, /usr/bin was
>>>totally screwed up. Any ideas ?
>>
>>Sorry - I'm pretty new to all this and I haven't had that problem -
>>yet! :-)
OK, I found out what the problem was. The problem was that I had more
than 1 primary DOS partition. Apparently, DOS *officially* only supports 1
primary partition. I had 2, hda1 and hda2. So, when I try to write to hda2
from within DOS, it would freak out and write to hda7. I suspect what
happened, was that DOS would write to the second *logical* partition,
instead of the second primary partition. That would explain the corruption
on hda7 and not hda6.
Anyways, all is well now. You can bet I'll never forget that
detail...ever ! :-)
'later...
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| "If you make people think they are
Ian You may answer in | thinking, they will love you; if you
english, french, german | make them think, they will hate you."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Don Marquis
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From: IHXO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Ha!
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:54:41 -0400
Larry Blumette wrote:
> http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/98jul/19980716.html
haha.. cool ...
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News resource of Macintosh
New Reviews: LinuxPPC R5/ Mac OS X
ICQ # 553439
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From: Jeffrey Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: reclaiming an unsed Linux partition for BeOS?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:26:02 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I currently have nine partitions as shown below.
<output from fdisk...>
Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 912 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 192 1542208+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M
/dev/hda2 193 218 208845 83 Linux native
/dev/hda3 219 221 24097+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda4 222 912 5550457+ 5 Extended
/dev/hda5 222 272 409626 83 Linux native
/dev/hda6 273 279 56196 83 Linux native
/dev/hda7 280 292 104391 83 Linux native
/dev/hda8 293 675 3076416 83 Linux native
/dev/hda9 * 676 912 1903671 83 Linux native
I currently do not use /dev/hda8 and /dev/hda2. I would like to reuse
/dev/hda8 as a BeOS partition.
My problem is I'm not sure what I need to do in order to reuse it while
not screwing up my current Linux areas.
I was looking to use fdisk to delete the /dev/hda8 partition, when I did
this /dev/hda9 became /dev/hda8, by the way I didn't write this change
to disk, used 'q' to exit fdisk. I was wondering if I commit this
change, would I have to change /etc/fstab to reflect this change?
Here is my /etc/fstab
/dev/hda9 / ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda6 /tmp ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda7 /PgP_Vault ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda1 /win95 msdos defaults 1 1
/dev/hda3 swap swap defaults 1 1
/dev/hda5 /home ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hdd /cdrom iso9660 user,ro 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 1 1
Q: Do I need to change this /dev/hda9 to /dev/hda8? What about when I
add the other partition for BeOS? The cdrom (BeOS) says I should run the
BeOS setup from win95 and use their Partition Magic to set up a
partition for BeOS.
Any ideas, comments?
Thanks.
--
Jeffrey A. Bell icq # 41684113
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Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing.
-- Wernher von Braun --
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From: Lev Babiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:36:51 -0400
Muuga wrote:
>
> Alot of ppl swear by this card(thats why I bought it), but it doesnt
> configure too well under linux.
>
> Under Win98 its irq=11 I/O=220 DMA=1
> of course it works great under windoze :/
>
> this is what it looks like under /proc/pci
>
> #PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 10, function 0:
> # Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq Unknown device (rev 6).
> # Vendor id=1274. Device id=1371. Slow devsel. IRQ 11. Master
What gave you an idea that AudioPCI is hardware compatible with
soundblaster? ;-)
Actually the soundblaster is emulated by the very windows driver afaik.
You have
to compile kernel with support for es1370 or es1371. I'm not sure if
2.0.37 has it
(but my guess is not). 2.2.x series have it, also ALSA has support for
it. I am
using ALSA with 2.3.6 kernel - works like a charm.
- Lev
> #Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=12.Max Lat=128. I/O at 0xe800.
>
> and /etc/conf.modules
>
> #alias sound sb
> #options -k sb io=0x220 irq=11 dma=1
>
> I running RH 5.1 with a recompliled 2.0.37 kernel
> on a FIC 503+ k6 300
> I must have recompiled 2 dozen times(just for the sound section of make
> menuconfig , since I got the card.
>
> i get this on boot up :
> #Sound initialization started
> #Sound initialization complete
> not once did I get something in between :(
>
> maybe im missing something in the sound configuration part of compilation?
>
> CONFIG_SOUND=y
> CONFIG_SB=y
> CONFIG_AUDIO=y
> CONFIG_YM3812=y
> SBC_BASE=220
> SBC_IRQ=11
> SBC_DMA=1
> SB_DMA2=-1
> SB_MPU_BASE=388
> SB_MPU_IRQ=-1
> DSP_BUFFSIZE=65536
>
> if you have this card and got it working under linux , please tell me how
> you have you box configured.
> Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 08:55:46 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:30:48 +0100,
Jon Skeet, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> In comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix John Imrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> : I allways thaught that WW2 was a world war in the same way that the World
>> : series base ball is only plaied in the US :)
>>
>> That has far more to do with the fact that Baseball was invented in the
>> USA than any sort of national egotism.
>
>What does where it was invented have to do with anything? It's still
>incredibly silly to call a competition in one country a World Series. I
>really don't see what its invention has to do with anything...
>
>--
The World series is named for the New York World, the newspaper that first
sponsored it.
(Baseball is a big deal in Cuba for irony...)
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd H Misnan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: embedded computers
Date: 10 Jul 1999 00:54:13 GMT
On 8 Jul 1999 20:30:55 GMT, Brett Alexander wrote:
>Hello I am Computer Engineering student and for my senior design project I
>am using the Explorer II microcontroller (EXPLRII) to interface with a
>desktop computer, through the serial port. I was wondering if Linux could
>be used as a viable operating system for the embedded computer. If anyone
>has any valuable advice it would most helpful. Thank you.
Linux does support embedded computer but I don't think it can run on the above
mentioned controller. You can get it up and running on many SBC which uses 386sx
and above uP tho.
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-Do it big or stay in bed.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Anybody got EPSON Stylus Color 640 or 850 ----------
Date: 10 Jul 1999 04:20:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
"Kaushik --,->" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> I have a Lexmark 5700 and the darn thing doesn't do color! Thats why I was
> wondering if EPSON was any good. And I can't afford a Postscript printer!!
> Too expensive. btw, which version of ghostscript did you try. I read that the
> new one that comes with RH6.0 does better printing. I found this info at:
>
> http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi
>
> btw, which printer were you talking about? the 640 or 850?
>
I use an Epson Stylus Color 600 and works pretty nice. I have had a bit of
trouble trying to get a input filter (if) setup using gs but what I print
does not look too bad at all.
I am suing Aladdin Ghostscript 5.10 (1997-11-23) and the @stc600p.upp driver.
- Justin
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_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Justin Willoughby
_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ http://justinw.net
_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ ---- Jesus Is Lord ----
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From: Albert Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: kpackage won't install on RH 6.0. Help!!
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 17:28:29 -0500
Sorry, thought of this after previous reply already sent. You might
subscribe to linux.redhat.rpm newsgroup.
Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\" wrote:
>
> I think I may have gotten past that problem and found a new one. It's now
> asking for other packages that are already installed. I'm getting
> frustrated fast. I will keep trying different thing and see what happens.
> I will keep you posted. Thanks
>
> Ed
>
> Thomas Overgaard wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >"Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>I did download through win98 and I think I tried the renaming of the files
> >>and it didn't work. I was very tired when I did it so I may hay screwed
> up.
> >>I'll try it tonight when I get some time. I hope that works. Thanks
> again.
> >>
> >I useally do all major download when running a Win3.11 session. Download is
> >much faster using Win3.11 and then I copy the files from DOS to Linux
> later.
> >
> >But the files I copy from DOS has allways the executable flag set. Maybe
> your
> >problem is the same. Try go to the directory where the copied files are
> stored
> >and use this command: ls -l
> >If the downloaded files return something like this: -rwxr-xr-x
> >Then use this command:
> >chmod -x filename
> >
> >If we did share the problem you can install the files now.
> >--
> >Thomas O.
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From: "Steven L. Dahlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DNS Problems
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:18:11 -0600
I am unable to solve a problem with DNS. I have tried and tried and
no matter what I do my telnet session from a Windows NT PC cannot
see my nameserver. It can see the IP address fine but not my name-
servers DNS name.
I have used the O'Reilly book 'DNS and BIND' to setup everything.
'NSLookup' with respond back with the proper information about oracle1
but from what I have read NSLookup does not use 'named' to lookup
info so it is not a true test.
My configuration is as follows:
============================ etc/hosts ===========================
127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain
192.168.200.2 oracle1.diodesign.com oracle1
========================== etc/host.conf =========================
order bind
multi on
========================== etc/named.conf ========================
options {
directory "/var/named";
/*
* If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want
* to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source
* directive below. Previous versions of BIND always asked
* questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 uses an unprivileged
* port by default.
*/
// query-source address * port 53;
};
zone "." {
type hint;
file "named.ca";
};
zone "diodesign.com" in {
type master;
file "named.hosts";
};
zone "200.168.192.in-addr.arpa" in {
type master;
file "named.rev";
};
zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" {
type master;
file "named.local";
};
========================== etc/named.conf ========================
# search diodesign.com
nameserver 192.168.200.2
domain diodesign.com
======================= var/named/named.hosts =====================
diodesign.com. IN SOA oracle1.diodesign.com. root.oracle1.diodesign.com.
(
2 ; serial
10800 ; refresh
3600 ; retry
604800 ; expire
86400 ; default_ttl
)
diodesign.com. IN NS oracle1.diodesign.com.
;
; Host Addresses
;
oracle1.diodesign.com. IN A 192.168.200.2
localhost.diodesign.com. IN A 127.0.0.1
diodesign.com. IN MX 1 oracle1.diodesign.com.
@ IN NS oracle1.diodesign.com.
======================== var/named/named.rev ======================
200.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN SOA oracle1.diodesign.com.
root.oracle1.diodesign.com. (
2 ; serial
10800 ; refresh
3600 ; retry
604800 ; expire
86400 ) ; default_ttl
;
; Named Servers
;
200.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN NS oracle1.diodesign.com.
;
; Addresses point to canonical name
;
2.200.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR oracle1.diodesign.com.
0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. IN SOA oracle1.diodesign.com.
root.oracle1.diodesign.com. (
2 ; serial
10800 ; refresh
3600 ; retry
604800 ; expire
86400 ) ; default_ttl
======================= var/named/named.local =====================
0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. IN NS oracle1.diodesign.com.
1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR localhost.
Can anyone give me any suggestions?
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From: Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE Defaukt WM on RH 6.0
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 22:50:45 -0400
How do I make KDE my default window manager in my Red Hat 6.0 system.
Thanks
Al
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From: "Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 05:39:09 GMT
Robert McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: My daughter is an accountant. To her, a spreadsheet is a tool, the
: computer is the machine that tool runs on. She designs applications,
: writes macros, and enters data. It took her two years to learn how to
: use that tool effectively, and now it is second nature to her. She can
: put together an application in a few minutes that used to take her
: several days. She is still a user, but she has stepped beyond the
: entry clerk stage to the point of being a journeyman mechanic. She now
: modifies the tool to fit her needs instead of depending on someone
: else to define and make those modifications for her. There are several
: people she works with that have not made that move. I suspect she will
: have many more oportunities than they will even though she is younger
: and less experienced than they are. I also suspect she is going to
: find and learn to use many other tools over the years that just happen
: to run on that same computer.
So, how much Linux does your daughter know? Have you convinced her
that learning C/Perl and moving to Linux would allow her to automate
a great deal? Otherwise, I don't know, she might still just be a
"clerk".
: Mr. Hawking's mind is much more powerful than any computer ever
: constructed, and he is one of the few people on this earth that has
: learned how to effectively tap into that power. I suspect the only
: computers he uses are the ones that provide him with speach and data
: storage, and he has some very talented help making them do what he
: needs.
Who was comparing Stephen Hawking's mind to a computer???
The point was he probably uses his computer simply to communicate.
Maybe he knows absolutely nothing about CRT's or ALU's or even
C/FORTRAN/whatever. If that were the case would that make him a
"data entry clerk"?
:>Binesh Bannerjee
: Bob McConnell
: N2SPP
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From: "tangui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Raw Partitons
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:54:56 -0700
Hi, I need to create a raw partition under Linux for use with a database
server.... now I went into fdisk but the only partion type that I thought
might work is 0 Empty... I am pretty sure that this will work... but I want
to refrain from playing with the disks of this machine, and the database
server... can someone please point me in the right direction?
Thanx
Stou
P.S.
I appologize for the cross posting...
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From: ed ngai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: Re: .bashrc, .bash_profile, .profile - which do I use?
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 22:46:38 -0700
execute the command
$man bash
kev wrote:
> Hi, > I've installed Oracle (boy, was that fun!) on Red Hat 6,
> which uses the bash shell by default for all the users.
> Last time I used UNIX (Solaris) there was a .login file in the
> home directories, but not on Red Hat. There's a .bashrc file, a
> .bash_profile file and a /etc/profile file.
> Also, when following installation instructions for Oracle (not Oracle's
> instructions, which didn't work, but someone else's, which did), I had
> to alter a file somewhere to change 'oracle' and 'root' users' shells to
> sh rather than bash, then had to create a .profile file, etc.
>
> Anyway, can someone explain what role each of these files has.
> Also, where should I set system-wide (ie for all users) env vars? Where
> should I set my own env vars (speaking as a normal user)? Etc.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> - kev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Forkosh)
Subject: Free TurboCluster CD with Performance Computing
Date: 10 Jul 1999 02:43:27 -0400
Received current issue of "Performance Computing" yesterday.
Accompanying it was a CD labelled TurboLinux TurboCluster Server,
Pre-Release 1.1.2 NFR. No mention of it in magazine at all,
and no accompanying docs except README on CD. I suppose it's
courtesy of PHT, but I didn't spend too much time with it.
Anybody know details? Thanks,
John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something)
Date: 09 Jul 1999 20:14:42 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
not to mention that the most sophisticated programmers I've known
have always had Macs at home (and Unix elsewhere).
-ckm
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From: "Patrick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help on boot disk
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:19:50 -0700
I have created a boot disk using the "makebootdisk --device /dev/fd0
2.2.5-15"
I am using RH6.0
I need to get some help on configuring LILO to point to /dev/hda5 This is
where I run into problems. Basically I can't get it to work... Once I can
get this to successfully boot, then I can use the ntloader to dual boot the
system, but for now I can't even get to the linux partition... thanks in
advance
Patrick Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "William H. Pridgen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't eliminate Netscape error message
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:30:55 -0500
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> I am using Netscape Communicator 4.6 under Redhat 6.0
> which I recently upgraded to. I want it just to read
> news, since I handle my mail another way. I keep getting
> a Netscape error message saying
>
> Netscape is unable to use the mail server because you have
> not provided a username. Please provide one in the
> preferences and try again.
>
> I've checked preferences and put a username and identity
> information everywhere I can, but I can't get rid of the
> message. This is while reading news. Previous versions
> of netscape don't seem to have had this problem.
You might try going to Preferences, Newsgroup Server, Edit, and check
"Only ask me my username and password when necessary."
--
Bill Pridgen
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From: ed ngai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Recommended First Linux Books- online and off
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:45:37 -0700
The 1st book I got was the Dr. Linux Project 4. It is now
superceded by an updated book along the same vein, but
forgot the name.
try books unix system 5 and unix power tools and Linux Unleashed.
Graeme Fenwick wrote:
>
> Hi all...
> Simple question (though I doubt the answer will be):- Which is the best
> Linux book for a (near) beginner?
> I know... this has been asked countless times before (slap me with a wet
> fish if you're sick of seeing the same question ;-), but trawling the
> archives hasn't turned up a suitable answer. So I'll try to be as specific
> as I can....
>
> I recently installed Linux (Red Hat 5.2) on my PC, and I've been using
> Linux Installation and Getting Started to do just that. It's good, but
> clearly isn't meant to be comprehensive, so what I'm after now is a book to
> help me get "into" Linux- in other words, a quality, general-purpose book.
> What I don't want is something that's..... patronising, simplistic, or
> bloated. I don't expect coverage of every conceivable Linux obscurity at the
> expense of any depth either, just something that covers the core topics in
> reasonable detail, and credits me with more than two brain cells. I thought
> about Running Linux from O'Reilly Publishing, but it's a few years old now
> unfortunately.
>
> Online (free) documentation was quite a common suggestion. Much as I
> find this sort of stuff very useful (cheaper, and usually more up-to-date),
> I still prefer the dead tree variety for day-to-day learning and reference-
> *if* they justify the cost, that is..
> Something else that got said more than once was that there are very few
> good Linux books out there, (and some of those that are available are very
> similar to online books/docs anway). If this is so, would it be better to go
> for a (general) Unix book, using the online docs and HOWTOs for
> Linux-specific stuff?
>
> How many words did it take me to ask that "simple question"? 1, 2, 3, 4,...
> whatever. ;-)
> Any help appreciated, at any rate.
>
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> promised they'd get that Halt and Catch Fire instruction removed
> before we went into production."
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From: "Frederick W. Reimer, Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: tar always thinks it is 1969
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:48:00 -0400
Hello,
For some reason the tar shipped with RedHat 6.0 (with all updates
applied) seems to think it is always the epoch or more precisely
1969-12-31 19:00. This is causing quite a problem with using -newer
and/or -after. I'm not absolutely positive this is the case, but it
seems to always want to archive files older than what I specify. Plus,
the timestamp on the volume lable, if you include one, is always the
date listed above.
Is this a known bug? Can someone try the following and let me know what
the date is on the volume header?
tar --label="test" -cvvf test.tar /etc/issue
I always get:
V--------- 0/0 0 1969-12-31 19:00 test--Volume Header--
tar: Removing leading `/' from absolute path names in the archive
-rw-r--r-- root/root 65 1999-07-01 03:31 etc/issue
What's the deal with that? The info page says the date on the label is
supposed to be when tar opens the output file...
Thanks,
Fred
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