Linux-Misc Digest #1, Volume #19 Fri, 12 Feb 99 22:13:10 EST
Contents:
I NEED HELP TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Philipp
Heise)
Re: How to make it run faster? ("TURBO1010")
Re: How to change default group? (Stefan Nehlsen)
Re: X Windows, low resolution (Rob O'Connell)
Re: giving a talk on linux (Joseph Zieniewicz)
Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange. ("Patrick Scott - Extreme Sims")
gcc for Linux (AME)
Re: ramdisk for linux: mount /ramdisk (Steve Martonak)
use of fortran with emacs (Antoine RAGOT-BUJADOUX)
WP8 prints extra page of PS garbage ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Single mode startup (John Thompson)
basic script question (Gerald Willmann)
deleting kernel sources okay? (Gordon Vrdoljak)
Re: gcc for Linux (gus)
netscape and realplayer 2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I used removepkg on SLANG but now linux complains on startup?
(joseph_a_philbrook__iii)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Roger Gordon)
egcs (Matthew Monacelli)
Re: simple shell script q? (Gary Johnson)
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:46:43 +0200
From: Philipp Heise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I NEED HELP TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a simple question :
how to mount a win 98 harddisk ?
win 98 = 1.Partition of first Disk (FAT 32)
programms = 2.Partition of first Disk (FAT 32)
linux = disk number 2
THANKS !!! :)
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From: "TURBO1010" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How to make it run faster?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:25:40 -0800
256M of ram, and 2 processors, and it's still slow as hell. Win98 will
smoke linux, and that that it runs on 1 processor.
Steve Cyr wrote in message <79ip6f$4k0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>Wildman, the Cuberstalker wrote in message ...
>>On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:06:44 -0800, RAZOR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote:
>>>Hey guys :-)
>>>I have my second puter that is 486/66mhz ,16 mb ram with Redhat 5.1
>>>installed. My swap partition is 65 mb, and I'm running AnotherLevel
>>>X-Windows (w95 look). So X-Windows is running kinda slow. Even programs
in
>>
>>Eeeagh! Do you realize that with a swap partition 4x the size of physical
>>RAM Linux is swapping so that it can find the page of memory it needs to
>>swap. In other words, more than 3x physical is inefficient.
>>*Reduce* the size of your swap partition to 48, or even 32MB. Or add
>another
>>16MB of physical. Also, try a different window manager. I favor
>WindowMaker.
>>
>
>Clearly the best way to solve this problem is more memory--NOT reducing the
>size of the swap partition.
>>--
>>Wildman, the Cuberstalker
>>Thank you, Microsoft, and please get out of the way.
>>Fight spam - http://www.cauce.org/
>>DO NOT SPAM THIS ADDRESS
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Nehlsen)
Subject: Re: How to change default group?
Date: 11 Feb 1999 15:55:40 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Fontes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>NF Stevens wrote:
>>
>> David Fontes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Say I have several users that are all in the same group as defined by
>> >the /etc/group file, but they are all also in their own individual
>> >groups. How do I make it so that when one of these users creates a file,
>> >the file is given the main group designation, and not the individual's
>> >group designation?
>> >
>> >To clarify, I create a new file and it is listed as follows:
>> >
>> >-rw-rw-r-- 1 dfontes dfontes 5 Feb 9 20:51 test
>> >
>> >I want to create a new file that instead will be
>> >
>> >-rw-rw-r-- 1 dfontes mmi 5 Feb 9 20:51 test
>> >
>> >I know how to change the group designation after the fact, what I want
>> >to do is change what my default group would be.
>>
>> newgrp mmi
>>
>> (before creating the file) Check the man page for details.
>>
>> Norman
>OK, but is there any way to change the default group *permanently*. I
>want things that get ftp'd to fall into the mmi group as well.
If everyone has his/her own group as default group you may set the
umask to 007 (user part = group part).
If you want to have a group of user have access to a directory put
them into a special group:
agroup::12000:tobi,anna,heinz
You may create a directory:
# mkdir agroupshare
Change the gid of the directory:
# chgrp agroup agroupshare
Make accessable for group member:
# chmod 770 agroupshare
Set the gid Bit on the directory:
# chmod g+s agroupshare
Now every new file in the directory will be created with the
group-id of the directory. Every subdirectory will also get the sgid-bit
set, so that the whole tree would be created with the group-id
agroup.
This is the reason why every user gets it's own default group in
some linux distributions and freebsd.
cu, Stefan
--
Stefan Nehlsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rechnerbetriebsgruppe Tel.: +49-431-77572-106 FAX: -103
Technische Fakultaet der Christian-Albrechts-Universitaet zu Kiel
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From: Rob O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X Windows, low resolution
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:47:04 -0600
some more info would help!
what card do you have, monitor - what version of Xfree?
what did your X say on startup? were most modes deleted - if so for what
reason?
Rob
Efi Merdler wrote:
> Hi
> I finally configured my X Windows (Redhat).
> I can not change my resolution, I have a very low resolution maybe 320*200.
> I tried using Ctrl-Shift +(Numpad), but it does not work.
>
> What should I do ?
>
> Thank you for reading
--
Rob O'Connell - "Work is the curse of the drinking class" - Oscar Wilde
lab#: (608) 2659467 mob#: (608) 3473838 home#: (608) 2519918
Work address: Plasma Physics, 1150 University Ave., Madison WI 53706
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aida.physics.wisc.edu/~oconnell
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From: Joseph Zieniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: giving a talk on linux
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:28:56 -0500
Gary Momarison wrote:
> Joseph Zieniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I belong to a computer club that has 98% IBM compatible (micro$oft)
> > members. The other 2% is linux. I would like to give a talk on the
> > virtues of linux. Is there any info on the internet on how to go about
> > this? Is there a list of sites where you can accomplish this? I'm sure
> > if I presented it right, I can convince some members at least to try
> > linux .
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Linux is fun!!!!
>
> I hope you can convince other of that. You'll find lots of suggestions
> on promoting Linux at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/promotion.html
>
> I'd try to include these points amongst the more obvious ones:
>
> With Linux you can almost always get something to work, given enough
> effort and reading of the voluminous documentation, without paying
> someone who can affort to buy the M$ developer-level documentation.
>
> With freely available SW, you don't have to keep paying for bug
> fixes called new versions. The initial price may not be a big deal.
> Paying for bug fixes and upgrades is to many.
>
> --
> Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
> Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
Hi Gary,
Thanks for the tip. Gary's Encyclopedia is great. There is a lot of info
about
what I'm looking for.
jozien
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From: "Patrick Scott - Extreme Sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange.
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:45:45 -0500
OK, I use Exchange, have used it for a few years, and just rolled out a new
system recently. If you want to do a management summary NOT to use Exchange,
you will need to know why they might want to advocate its use, tto be able
to counter those points.
Point: Exchange is a great tool for collaboration in the business world. The
ability to share calendars, contacts, e-mail boxes, etc. with others within
one PIM is a very powerful agurement for Exchnage's use, especially when you
leverage the relative lack of need of skill/time for the end user to use
Outlook.
Counterpoint: Do you really need the ability to run a bloated PIM in the
academic world? The client alone requires substantial hardware to run, and
may neccesitate expensive upgrades to the client PCs. If you implement
Exchnage, but decide not to use Outlook as the client, or decide to just use
it for IMAP or POP3 mail, why spend the money and time to roll-out and
administer Exchange when a freeware product will deliver mail just as well?
Point: Microsoft BackOffice products are prevalent in the business world.
Saturation makes for good support (ideally) and cross-compliance between
departments/divsions/etc.
Counterpoint: This same ubiqtiousness will tie an academic establishment to
a commercial one. Is this a good thing? In addition, academia has typically
been run on Unix. Why run counter to that? And finally, Windows NT is
expensive. It's not the hardware (BTW, I have servers that have run
forever - my home NT server has never crashed, nor any of the NT4 boxes at
work), nor the software - but the cost to retrain system admins.
You get the idea - go from there. Too many Linux zealots might be
technically savvy, but business stupid. That is part of the reason Linux has
not expanded into the mainstream as far as its merits would allow.
Feel free to contact me if you need more help selling Linux. I am primarily
an NT guy, but I value Linux's strengths and strong competition is good for
us.
=================================
Patrick Scott
Webmaster, Extreme Sims
http://www.extremesims.com
http://www.voodooextreme.com/sims
ICQ: 20702012
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AME)
Subject: gcc for Linux
Date: 11 Feb 1999 17:01:36 GMT
Hi all,
Is there a free gcc compiler for Linux? Where can I find it?
Thanks
--
Ayman Elsaedi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Martonak)
Subject: Re: ramdisk for linux: mount /ramdisk
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:57:46 GMT
Ray Eads <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I would like to be able to mount a ram disk in the filesystem,
>somewhat like an Amiga ramdisk.
># cat /etc/fstab
>/dev/hda6 / ext2 defaults
>/dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults
>8megs of physical memory /mnt/ramdisk ram defaults
># mount /mnt/ramdisk
>This would be terribly convenient. Anyone else wondered about this?
In DOS/Windows I use a 32MB ramdrive for almost all my activity. I
have, from time to time, set up ramdrives in linux, but because of the
superior memory management in linux there just doesn't seem to be much
added benefit.
--
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From: Antoine RAGOT-BUJADOUX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: use of fortran with emacs
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:03:57 +0100
hello,
I've managed to compile a fortran file with emacs. I can launch the
debugger. But I don't know how to run my 'wonderful' prog. I've searched
in the howtos, and I didn't found a beginning of any answer. Please help
or give me a link !
Thanx.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WP8 prints extra page of PS garbage
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:01:11 GMT
I have RedHat 5.2 and my bjc250 is configured as a bjc600 with printool using
the floyd steinburg option for color (when I put the cartridge in). I use
the postscript passthrough option in WP8. When it prints, other than
everything is shifted to the left (which I think is a problem with the latest
GS), it prints fine...but the last page is a page of postscript garbage.
I also use Applix, and it doesn't do this.
Any suggestions?
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Single mode startup
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:20:06 -0600
Robert Means wrote:
>
> Howdy,
> Stupid question. I set my run level to 5 (I think). Anyway, I set
> the level to the xdm start level. I guess my X prefs are messed up and I
> just keep getting the server trying to start up ad nauseum... Anyway, how
> do I start up at a lower run level to change my inittab? I think it is
> called starting in single user mode. Any help would be great.
Have you tried CTRL-R to kill xdm? YOu should then get a
standard test login prompt. You could also just try a
CTRL-ALT-F2 to change to a different virtual terminal which
will also come up with a text login. But "linux: single" at
the LILO prompt ought to work as well...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: basic script question
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:31:35 -0800
I'm trying to run my window and filemanagers remotely and the following
script
export DISPLAY=gerald:0
wm2 &
tkdesk &
does the job but doesn't return me to the prompt. I have to press return
to get back the prompt which is no big deal but if you know how to get
back the prompt automatically please tell me. Thanks,
GErald
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From: Gordon Vrdoljak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: deleting kernel sources okay?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:44:31 -0800
Hello,
I recently upgraded my kernel to 2.2.1. I was wondering after
successfully installing and
running the new kernel - can I now delete the source files under:
/usr/src/linux?
I don't have a ton of room on the hard disk. What would be the
implications of removing
the source too? Would anything break or would it give me problems
later?
Could I also delete the old source files in:
/usr/src/linux2.0.36
and
/usr/src/redhat?
Any comments appreciated. Please send them to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gordon.
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc for Linux
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:23:53 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AME wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Is there a free gcc compiler for Linux? Where can I find it?
> Thanks
>
> --
> Ayman Elsaedi
yes
and you can probably find it in /usr/bin
gus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: netscape and realplayer 2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Feb 1999 02:57:09 GMT
I've got rvplayer working with streaming audio and video, but I got into one site
and was told "The plugin for mime type video/vdo not found".
I did a search on video/vdo and only found programming in this format. Where can
find the plugin?
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (joseph_a_philbrook__iii)
Subject: I used removepkg on SLANG but now linux complains on startup?
Date: 11 Feb 1999 17:39:46 GMT
H H E E E E L P P P
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Hi I was going to try slrn for which I needed SLANG... But I couldn't
get it working so I used removepkg on the packages including the slang
library. But now everytime I boot I get an agravating message that tells
me my linux tried to do something with Slang but couldn't find it so it's
"skipping"...
I'm still no expert, and can't figure out what file I need to edit to stop
my linux from even looking for slang any more...
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<?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
^
\___/ < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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From: Roger Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:04:11 +0000
Give anyone these Linux distributions a try for easy of installation.
Caldera, Redhat or SuSE. There fairly inexpensive. They also have a
large support base for hardware. I multi-boot all three off one computer
and among other operating sytems. SuSE distribution is hugh. 2 gigs on
four cdroms. If I can get three versions up and running on one computer!
Anyone else can!
If security is a big issue. And we are starting hear about in Linux
community. Supposely Redhat is making the most inroads in that area.
rmg
Donn Miller wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > i think there is a problem with system after installation. FreeBSD is
> > more secure after installation than Linux. Linux distributions are
> > made for people without experience in unixes, FreeBSD is made for
> > people who knows, what is unix :>
>
> I don't know -- I myself find Linux harder to setup than FreeBSD. I think
> FreeBSD has gotten pretty easy to use owing to the USENET support and the
> FreeBSD website. Maybe it's because I'm using Debian; I think I'll switch
> to Slackware. So which Linux dist. is most like FreeBSD? I always thought
> Slackware was, but maybe it's because I started using slackware in 1995 and
> like the familiarity. I generally don't play the follow-the-leader game,
> and I sense that RedHat and Debian are all the rage.
>
> I would say FreeBSD is much easier to use. But then again I've been using
> FreeBSD for a much longer time than Linx; it's just a matter of opinion and
> taste.
>
> --Donn
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From: Matthew Monacelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: egcs
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 03:01:51 +0000
I made a big mistake, but I am asking if there is a way to recover. I
was trying to get GNOME to install, but the ./configure of the
gnome-objc package said egcs was installed. I grabbed the RPM and
installed it but then it complained about not having binutils and
something else. RPM couldn't find them because I installed them from
the source, so I unchecked the "check dependencies" and forced the
install - that is where I messed up. After that, ./configure on ANY
package 1) cannot determine my hosttype 2)conftest can't do much of
anything now. I tried getting all the gcc RPMS to try and fix it, but
gcc RPM won't install. I need HELP! Please, I put a TON of time into
my installation and can't afford to start over. Any help is GREATLY
appreciated! Thanks in advance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Johnson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: simple shell script q?
Date: 13 Feb 1999 03:08:29 GMT
Charles Mulks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> what is the newline sequence in a shell script?
> echo "1st line\n2nd line"
> It *doesn't* seem to be \n (which simply prints an 'n')
This caught me, too, at first, because I was used to echo on HP-UX.
It turns out that Linux's echo requires a -e flag to recognize escape
sequences like "\n". So, simply change your command to
echo -e "1st line\n2nd line"
Gary
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