Linux-Misc Digest #18, Volume #19                Sun, 14 Feb 99 01:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Re: I NEED HELP TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Michael 
Meissner)
  Re: Flush swap manually? (Radovan Garabik)
  Re: Window Maker prefs undocked! (Frank Boehme)
  Re: X Servers (scott b)
  Re: From RedHat to Slackware (Arthur Corliss)
  Re: oops "rm -r *" Missing part of tree, or at least a shrub (Bill Unruh)
  Re: New to Linux (Rob Shinn)
  Re: what's the difference between desktop/window-manager (Ben Russo)
  Re: e mail stats (Arthur Corliss)
  Re: Development Tool, Project, CASE Tool  (David M. Cook)
  PPP (Ryan Parker)
  Re: SCSI for Debian2.0,Slackware3.6,FreeBSD3.0,NetBSD-1.3.2 (dmalcolm)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Jay Lessert)
  Re: Linux suxxxx (David M. Cook)
  Small Biz Accounting Software (Sander Nyman)
  HELP: Postscript/lpr: Not printing large docs (Michael Saunders)
  Re: deleting kernel sources okay? (Bob Martin)

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From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I NEED HELP TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 12 Feb 1999 16:50:16 -0500

"John Podmayersky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I had to use device sda instead of hda to get this that to work.  Good Luck!

sda is the first scsi disk, hda is the first {,E}IDE disk, xda is the first XT
disk.

> Philipp Heise wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >a simple question :
> >
> >how to mount a win 98 harddisk ?
> >win 98 = 1.Partition of first Disk (FAT 32)
> >programms = 2.Partition of first Disk (FAT 32)
> >linux = disk number 2

Assuming you have a recent kernel, you can do:

        mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt

for a one shot deal, or put it in /etc/fstab or autofs to have it mounted every
time.  Note, the MSDOS file system doesn't know about users, so you typically
need the uid=<nnn> flag if you want a non-root user to write the file.

-- 
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions (Massachusetts office)
4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED],    617-354-5416 (office),  617-354-7161 (fax)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Radovan Garabik)
Subject: Re: Flush swap manually?
Date: 12 Feb 1999 21:49:55 GMT

oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:      Anyone know how I can manually flush swap?
:      I know people say that the system is smart and will do it on it's
: own, but that sometimes doesn't happen when running a lot of applications.
:      For example, when I'm working with serveral gigabytes of
: multimedia files I'll sometimes find that swap is
:  being used, but when I want to go back and work on other things that
: don't require a lot of memory usage I find that there's
:  a lot of stuff still in swap and my hard drive works harder than usual.
: Most troubling is my hard drive's red light
: which STAYS on, even when the hard drive isn't being accessed!
        ^^^^^
this is strange, and probably not related to swap.
 

:      There's no way the system can know that I don't intend to work on
: anything it has saved in swap, there's no way 
: the system can know that I'm going to use a whole new set of
: applications so it makes good sense in such cases 
: to clear out swap manually.

swapoff -a; swapon -a
but it should not matter... in fact, if you have some unused programs in
swap, more memory can be used for disk cache,

:      The same can be said with memory in ram. Anyone know how I could
: flush ram so that there's nothing in the buffers?

sync if you mean write cache
there is no need if you mean read cache.

-- 
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| Radovan Garabik    http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik |
| __..--^^^--..__       garabik @ center . fmph . uniba . sk  |
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From: Frank Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Window Maker prefs undocked!
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:30:23 +0000

Ruairi McFarlane wrote:
> 
> I dragged the WM prefs icon off screen by accident. I need it back! How
> do I get it back?

The binary is in a non-standard location. Something like

          /usr/local/share/WMaker/WMPrefs/

or so. Just cd there and fire it up as a background process (using &).

BTW, how did you dock it in the first place?

cheers,

Frank

--
Dr Frank Boehme                      | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163       
Dept of Computer Science             |   fax: +353-21-903113
Cork, Ireland                        |   WWW: http://yeats.ucc.ie/~fboehme/

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:47:18 -0800
From: scott b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X Servers

Derek,

I have the same chip (Sierra Screamin 3D) and I still haven't been able to find
anything more than you have. How many colors can you get at 640x480? I'm stuck
at 16. I was just curious.

If I find something in my continued search, I'll email you.

Scott


Derek Lakin wrote:

> Does anyone know of any X Servers (e.g. XFree86) that support the Rendition
> Verite 1000 chipset (as used in the Creative Labs 3D Blaster PCI) at a
> resolution of 800x600 or higher?
>
> I've tried using version 3.3.3.1 of XFree86 and still can;t get above
> 640x480.
>
> Derek.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Corliss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: From RedHat to Slackware
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Feb 1999 13:21:46 -0900

On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:10:22 -0500, Paul Kallstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hmmmm... I dumped slackware for RH. The security issues were too great. It's
>nuthin' to fight about, tho, cuz it's not the flavor that counts,  but the
>nutritional value <G>
>
>Paul

Care to elaborate.  With all of the research I've done, Slack is ten times
more secure out of the box than RH is.  Take a look at the number of CERT
alerts that are RH only, for example.

I'd love to see some examples, if you would.

        --Arthur Corliss
          Bolverk's Lair -- http://www.odinicfoundation.org/arthur/
          "Live Free or Die, the Only Way to Live" -- NH State Motto

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: oops "rm -r *" Missing part of tree, or at least a shrub
Date: 14 Feb 1999 04:15:46 GMT

B

>> Yah Right <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : I seem to have accidentally (methodically) disposed of the "local"
>> : directory under /usr on my rh5.2 box.  I was reinstalling (ech) win95

As far as I know, the stock distribution does not put anything under
/usr/local/ . That is traditionally where you put your own stuff (ie
extras not in the original distribution).

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From: Rob Shinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,at.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: New to Linux
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:14:18 GMT

GV Morgon wrote:

> Linda:
>
> From what I've read on the large HDD, if you setup the boot/kernel partition
> to reside under the 1024 cylinder you should be okay, everything else can be
> above that to my understanding.  Someone please correct me on this if I am
> wrong as I am looking at setting up a linux machine with a decent size
> drive.
>
> As far as if it is easy?  Well, no.  But if you have plenty of dos or
> command line interface experience and understand networking you should be
> able to pick up on it.  I've got a pretty solid background in those items,
> plus a dash of programming experience from college and I have been able to
> grab at the stuff pretty quick.  The "man" pages are indespensible as they
> give all the info you could want on all kinds of topics, even configuration
> files.  Speaking from another newbie's perspective :)
>
> Glenn
>
> Gaea wrote in message <78slor$kf9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm about to install RedHat 5.2 on my p2 450 computer. Is there anything I
> need to know before I install it? I have a 14.4GB HD and I'm going to put
> Linux on a seprate partion. I would also like to know how do I boot between
> 2 Operating Systems. Can Windows 98 and Linux coexist?
>
> BTW, Is this OS easy to learn?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Linda


Linda, the original poster, also asked about Windows 98 and Linux
coexisting...  I'm afraid I don't have this original message except in the
above quote.

The answer,  Linda, is that the two operating systems can coexist and dual
boot.  There are a number of ways to this, including using LILO and loadlin.

Which to use depends on what your primary OS will be.  If you want Linux as
your primary OS,  use LILO because it will boot Linux quicker than loadlin,
which requires that you first boot to a DOS prompt.

OTOH, if Windows will be the OS you use the most, use loadlin.   With loadlin,
you can setup a shortcut on the Windows desktop that will reboot into "MS-DOS
mode" and run loadlin from a batch file.  In fact, this what the Red Hat
distribution uses to start installation on a Windows machine.

LILO is probably a little harder to config than loadlin if you are more
familiar with DOS/Windows than with Unix, but not much.

There is another choice, as well.  You can use bootlin or loadlin in the
config.sys and setup a DOS 6.2x-style multiple configuration boot.  Because
multiconfig sometimes presents problems for certain DOS-based installation
programs, however, I wouldn't necessarily recommend this setup.





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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what's the difference between desktop/window-manager
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:19:02 -0500

Phil Teague wrote:
> 
> Ben:
> 
> Thanks for the short tutorial in X-Windows. It was very helpful in my understanding 
>of
> how things work. I was particularly interested in your statement below about setting 
>up
> a browser (Netscape) so that it would be the only application that runs. How do you 
>do
> this? Install only X-Windows, Netscape Navigator, and then what? How do you do the
> "endless loop" part?
> I work in a public library with public access PCs using Navigator. It would be great 
>to
> use Linux instead of NT for these PCs.
> 
> Ben Russo wrote:
> 
> >  But it does come in handy, for example
> > I have set up WWW "appliances" that just have an open Netscape window
> > maximized.  If you close Netscape it just restarts it ==endless loop==.
> > No command line makes this WWW appliance rather secure.
> >

Well, it isn't hard.  First set up the boxes with just enough software
to run X and your version of standalone Netscape. (standalone means no
Mail/News!) Edit /etc/lilo.conf for the booting HD MBR and set the 
timeout to 1. Rerun LILO, this makes the box boot straight to the 
default init level without giving a user at the console the chance to 
override it to another run level.

Then edit the inetd.conf file and remove everything except telnet, but
move the telnet port to a strange place and tcp wrap telnet 
to restrict incomming connections to your Office systems.  Edit rc.local 
and make sure it isn't creating issue or issue.net on boot.  Remove all 
lines from issue files so that if someone is port-scanning the box they
see nothing but a prompt.

Remove everything from the SysVinit that isn't needed to run X and
Netscape.

Make sure that you have a floppy boot disk that will allow you to boot
the box with a LILO prompt so that you can get into single user mode 
if you need too. Get a floppy lock. (metal plate with a lock bar 
and a key) Lock up the CD too.  I saw one place where they bought a 
few HASPS at a hardware store and bolted them to the back of the case 
and over the front where the CD and the floppy were.  Then they but 
padlocks on the HASPS.  This also allowed them to chain the case to 
the desk, and to set the BIOS passwords and kept kids from opening 
the case to set the BIOS password dip switches or jumpers.

Now, copy the inittab file to a backup. Edit the inittab file and 
remove all getty's and place a new line for the default runlevel 
that calls a simple script with the restart option.

The script is owned by a user you added to the system.
This user belongs to no groups but one that you added to the system.
(in other words this user has NO WRITE PERMISSIONS TO ANYTHING OTHER
THAN IT'S OWN USER DIR)(THIS USER DIR SHOULD BE IN A PARTITION LIKE 
/home THAT HAS NOTHING ELSE IN IT).

After you set up the account, set the UID's shell in the password file
to /bin/false, and lock the password.

Create an executable script SUID by this user.  This script only calls

#!/bin/sh
X
while :
do
netscape -display localhost:0 -geometry 1024x768 
done

Replace the geometry with whatever your X has.

Edit the XF86Config file and remove the <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<Backspace>
trap.

Setup Netscape with special attention to the applications preferences
you don't want the user being able to start any telnet sessions
or Xterms or any netscape helper apps that allow commands to be entered.

After you have set up the netscape preferences chmod the 
.netscape/prefere*  file to 444 and chown it to root.root

Now reboot the box.

It is secure.  No listening ports on the network 'cept telnet 
(which is tcp-wrapped).  The box comes up with no chance for a user
to change the boot process. It just starts X (which will restart if it
dies) and starts netscape maximized (which will restart if it dies).
There is no menu in X for any other APPS, and if you write protect the 
netscape configuration files 

You can telnet into the box to reboot or start an Xterm if you want.

Or you could boot from your LILO floppy and set the box into single user
mode.

-Ben.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Corliss)
Subject: Re: e mail stats
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Feb 1999 13:18:32 -0900

On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:58:05 +0000, Ken Plumbly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does anyione hav/know of a utility scripts, whatever to make up
>a set of stats for a mail server, so that I can know the volume
>of mail our server is passing??
>
>Thanks
>
>Ken

Actually, what I would do is set up your kernel for IP accounting, and track 
the traffic on ports the following ports:

        25 -- smtp
        109 -- pop2
        110 -- pop3
        143 -- imap2
        220 -- imap3

I have a script that resets the counters nightly, and logs the totals to the
syslog.  I also replaced port 15 (netstat) with a script that just grabs the
current counter totals

Try 'telnet gallanttech.net 15' for an example.  :-)

        --Arthur Corliss
          Bolverk's Lair -- http://www.odinicfoundation.org/arthur/
          "Live Free or Die, the Only Way to Live" -- NH State Motto

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Development Tool, Project, CASE Tool 
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:23:59 GMT

On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:10:39 GMT, David M. Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Uniqsys advertises a CASE tool on linuxtoday.com, so I assume it will run
>under Linux.  Also, ISE (www.eiffel.com) makes an Eiffel CASE tool.

The Uniqsys web site is http://www.uniqsys.com/

Dave Cook

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From: Ryan Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP
Date: 31 Jan 1999 07:14:07 GMT

Hello Everyone,

        I have made a Perl Script that configures all of the files needed to
connect to the internet w/ PPP.  It is really easy to use.  You can get it
at http://www.panthersfootball.com/ppp/linuxinst.tar.gz.  If you have any
questions/comments, e-mail me @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ryan Parker
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:21:37 -0600
From: dmalcolm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI for Debian2.0,Slackware3.6,FreeBSD3.0,NetBSD-1.3.2
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc

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Don't know about the others but Slackware comes with several boot images that
can be used to make a set of boot & root disks.  The boot images are on the CD
in bootdsks.144 and can be installed on a dos formated floppy using rawrite.exe
(don't just copy the file onto the floppy).  'rawrite' will also make a root
floppy.  The best root floppy image is usually color.gz  in the rootdsks
directory.
For the boot disk select one that supports scsi and in your case probably
aha2x4x.s  would be best.
This will let you boot and find your scsi drive.  The Slackware setup program
will let you tell it the target installation partition.

Hope this helps.

Dan Malcolm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Brian Wildasinn wrote:

> Hi all!
> Debian2.0,Slackware3.6,FreeBSD3.0,NetBSD-1.32
> seem to be doing the same thing during installation.
> they're all saying "No SCSI attached!!!"
>
> Why is it that only Redhat5.2 was able to see my SCSI drive
> during installation?
>
> All the other installers gave me one choice only --/dev/hda1
> (Linux via Debian & Slackware) or /dev/wd0 (*BSD)-- or
> nothing at all if the  UDMA  drive was unplugged. It's been
> a few days, but I think I had to trick Redhat also, by making
> the bios select scsi first and removing the ribbon from the
> IDE drive. Anyway SCSI first returns 0, then the SCSI Drive
> and Card appear to do some sort of download of driver info,
> so that the Redhat installer eventually sees the SCSI drive.
> Looks like Redhat has  a longer probe time than the other
> installers. So what should I do?
>
> I was really surprised about Debian since I've had 2.0 running
> on a m68k macintosh for quite a while with SCSI disk chains.
> Tho this one is a 2940U2W scsi card with matching transfer speed
> IBM drive.
>
> These other installers appear to probe the
> system without looking at a BIOS selection, which for my
> box can switch preferences between IDE and SCSI, which
> looks similar to load order choice for floppy, CDROM, and C
> drive, etc...
>
> So is the only way to get these other OSes up is to unplug
> PnP settings for the SCSI card? Or is there some other tweak
> to solve this? By the way, only Redhat5.2 had a working
> fips20, fdisk programs for FAT32 partitions.  Changed the
> unused paritions to FAT16, then tried them with Linux native,
> but no go with that either.
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>
> Brian Wildasinn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> notes: Asus p2b 440bx PII350, Adaptec SCSI Card 2940U2W;
> Win98 & Redhat dual booting with Win98 requiring first priority
> in LILO to avoid hanging the MBR. Basically I;'ve got a 4Gig
> drive with equal parititions for each OS.
>
> Here's some of the /var/log/messages:
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using
> exception 16 error reporting.
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: Linux version 2.0.36
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #1 Tue Oct 13 22:17:11 EDT
> 1998
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial
> options enabled
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: tty03 at 0x02e8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks
> of 4096K size
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0
> function 33
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel:     ide0: BM-DMA at 0xc800-0xc807
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel:     ide1: BM-DMA at 0xc808-0xc80f
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: hda: WDC AC310100B, 9671MB w/512kB Cache,
> CHS=1232/255/63, UDMA
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: hdb: VerH, ATAPI CDROM drive
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: hdc: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:253, ATAPI CDROM
> drive
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: scsi : 0 hosts.
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: scsi : detected total.
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: Partition check:
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel:  hda: hda1
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: (scsi0) <Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra2 SCSI host
> adapter> found at PCI 12/0
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: (scsi0) Wide Channel, SCSI ID=7, 32/255
> SCBs
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: (scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 407
> instructions downloaded
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x
> (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.1.2/3.2.4
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel:        <Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra2 SCSI host
> adapter>
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: scsi : 1 host.
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel:   Vendor: IBM       Model: DDRS-34560D
> Rev: DC1B
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access
> ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel
> 0, id 1, lun 0
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: (scsi0:0:1:0) Synchronous at 80.0
> Mbyte/sec, offset 15.
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes.
> Sectors= 8925000 [4357 MB] [4.4 GB]
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel:  sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9
> >
> Feb  8 15:20:25 localhost kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
> readonly.
>
> <end of blah blah blah>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:48:17 GMT

On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:56:01 -0800, David Masterson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us all with this bit of
wisdom:

>David Kastrup wrote:
>> While I don't think (as some) that Microsoft should be forced to ship
>> Netscape as well at the option of Windows customer, they *should* be
>> forced to make all necessary information for doing that publically
>> available so that Netscape as well as other browser vendors have a
>> chance to compete with Internet Explorer on Windows.  And this should
>> be controlled tightly to ensure they don't hide important APIs, making
>> the task more or less undoable for people not into the secret.
>
>Here's an idea.  If you grant that Microsoft has a (near-)monopoly in
>OS, then, as a remedy, why not remove that monopoly in a way that keeps
>the government out of the computer OS business and maintains open
>competition.  My idea would be to give control of the OS over to 3 (or
>more) separate companies (one of which may be owned by MS) and have
>those companies compete with each other.  In other words, each would
>have a complete copy of the OS (and the engineering know-how to support
>it).  To differentiate themselves, they would then have to move their
>copy of the OS in new and innovative ways.  Yet, they would have the
>engineering knowledge to incorporate innovations from the other
>companies into their copy of the OS.  In so doing, they would open up
>new opportunities for getting into the MS-Windows universe.


And is this going to be done voluntarily? If the government forces
such a move then guess what? You've still got government intrusion
into the OS area. It took government about 25 years to get into
regulating automobiles under ythe guise of safety before they started
becoming draconian; even to the point of mandating 'safety' devices
that they knew would kill and injure people. I doubt that it would
take that long before they made a total cluster fuck of the computer
industry.
Why not just wait a few years and let the market take care of things?
It works slower but it works much, much better. 


"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
 And with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred, Necronomicon 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Lessert)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 12 Feb 1999 14:28:16 -0800

In article <79rdo3$3pd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Io  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was my understanding the largest issue was the design of the shaped
>charges and the critical nature of getting them to detonate at the exact
>same time to "crunch" the uranium to critical mass.

That's slightly mixed up.  The shaped charges and fancy detonation
circuitry are for the Pu bomb, not the U-235 bomb.  The hardest part
for the U-235 bomb was just getting it highly enough enriched and
making enough of the damn stuff.
-- 
Jay Lessert              Portland, Oregon USA             [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Linux suxxxx
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:27:13 GMT

On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:34:07 -0000, softalk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Let me tell you I give up. After 3 solid weeks trying to set up a linux
>system I finally submit to the fact that  me and Linux do not get on. I have
>been installing novell & Win networks as a job for 9 years but wow what a
>shock I got from Linux. 

Geez, guy, even *journalists* are installing Linux without trouble now.

Dave Cook

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sander Nyman)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:29:02 -0500
Subject: Small Biz Accounting Software

I am looking for a robust Accounting Software package for small business
(not a personal financial package) to run under Linux natively.  I would
appreciate recommendations.  I would especially like to hear from other 
small business owners who are using an accounting software package  under
Linux.    

I am also looking for information regarding the possibility of running
Peachtree Complete Accounting for DOS (version 11) under Linux.  Can it be
done?  How bad is there a performance hit?  Anyone out there using it
under Linux?  
 
Thanks for any help.

Sander Nyman
-- 
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"Sander Nyman"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Michael Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP: Postscript/lpr: Not printing large docs
Date: 13 Feb 1999 21:39:03 -0700

I just connected my "new" DataProducts LZR2080 laser printer  
to one of my Linux machines (via the serial connection on   
/dev/cua1 if it matters -- the ethernet interface is reporting
a "cable break at 0ns" so I think that I.F. might be broken). 

I am able to print the test pages from the RedHat 5.2 printtool
just fine.  I saved a single page doc in ps format from Netscape,
and it prints fine.  The problem comes when I try to print
a 2meg+ file (14 pages -- my tax return!)  This file was generated
in Winbloze with a DataProducts LZR2080 driver set to save to
disk.  I *can* view the ps file in Ghostview just fine.

The problem is, that when I try to lpr this large file (1040.ps)
nothing happens.  The queue shows that 1040.ps is "active" and
the printer's LCD says that it's recieving data and processing
it.  This goes on for a long time (due to the serial data 
connection) and eventually, the job leaves the queue and the 
printer returns to "Ready to print".  No pages are produced   
at all.

I've tried everything I can think of.  Doing a
cat 1040.ps >/dev/cua1 (thus bypassing the queue) does the
same thing (above).  I regenerated the 1040.ps file using a
lower-end DataProducts LZR1560 driver in Winbloze and the
results are the same.

Now, I know that the DataProducts printers are capable of
printing documents like this -- I have printed past 1040's
on them while they were still at work.  They typically spit   
each page out as they are processed.  I don't even get one
page! UGH!!!  This printer has 12megs of RAM, so it shouldn't
be running out of memory -- especially on the first page which
is about 33% full with text only.

Does anyone have any ideas what's going on here?  Why are the
small files working but not this larger one?

Thanks!
Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: deleting kernel sources okay?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:39:17 -0600

No you shouldn't just delete it. There are directories in /usr/include
which are links to directories in the linux tree. Deleting the linux
tree would break those links and some things would nolonger compile. You
can free up alot of space by runnin Make clean which remove the compiled
object files. next time you compile the kernal it will take a while
beacuse it will have to recompile everything. You can also delete all
directories under linux except /include, but you have reinstall the
kernal source if you want to recompile.

Gordon Vrdoljak wrote:

> Hello,
> I recently upgraded my kernel to 2.2.1.  I was wondering after
> successfully installing and
> running the new kernel  - can I now delete the source files under:
> /usr/src/linux?




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