Linux-Misc Digest #50, Volume #19 Mon, 15 Feb 99 13:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Newbie Problem with ./configure (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: one thing that sux about Linux.... (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Please help we are desparate!! ("Richard Hitchell")
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Re: More bad news for NT (Steven Whatley)
Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange. ("Keith G. Murphy")
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Chris Webb)
Re: > 64MB RAM (Tim Ryan)
Re: Precompiled x11amp 0.9? (Mark J. Tilford)
Putting a small Linux onto a LS-120 disk (Derek Allum)
Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0
Re: 3c509/3c509b and SportsterVoice ("Louis Srygley")
Re: Help - Rockwell PCI V.90 Modem (Matt Zagni)
Re: big endian -> little endian converter (Laurent Deniau)
Re: WordPerfect 8 console version? (Karel Jansens)
Re: Space Station uses 95/NT, disaster imminent (no joke) (Charles H. Chapman)
Re: Matrox G200 PCI support Linux?? (Tom Trebisky)
floating point accuracy on Linux? (Georg Schwarz)
Re: plip and forwarding (John Girash)
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbie Problem with ./configure
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:02:20 -0600
Shadowspawn wrote:
>
> Ok I got the text from your message saved it into a text file called hello.c in
> the /usr/src directory and tried this:
>
> [root@localhost src]# gcc -O hello.c -o hello
> hello.c:1: stdio.h: No such file or directory
Is /usr/src in your path?
Use "echo $PATH" to find out.
If not, then you will have to edit .profile in your home dir and add:
PATH=$PATH:/usr/src; export PATH
Then, "source .profile" or logout and log back in.
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: one thing that sux about Linux....
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:19:51 -0600
Granny The Great wrote:
>
> Boy you can say that again and again!
>
> GTG
>
> Kenny Sylliboy wrote in message ...
> >snip<
> but take months
> >figuring out how things work in linux, only to forget what you did to
> >finally solve your problem.
> >
> >Kenny
> >
Well, that's a problem that can plague the user of any OS. That is why
I keep notes.
I'm 58 and probably have lost 10% of my brain cells. At least that's
what I say to explain my loss of memory. But, once you've solved your
problem, you will probably never see it again. I've been running Linux
since May 9th of last year without a crash.
Having fun....
Jerry
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From: "Richard Hitchell" <richard.hitchellatttabconnectors.com>
Subject: Please help we are desparate!!
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:05:41 -0000
I have been trying to configure using linux 5.1 qmail with pop3 for
connecting pc clients. But I have managed to screw up the system somehow
and cannot work out what i have done / how to undo it!
1. on boot up the message 'SCIOCADDRT: Invalid argument' appears - what is
this and how do I fix it?
2. Slightly later on boot up the message 'loading keymap: unable to stat gid
control file 'gidq'' appears and then continuosly scrolls up the screen
until you switch to single user mode or kill 'supervise /var/lock/svc/qmail
qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger' process. I have taken the qmail startup out
of /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit - so how is it starting, where should I check?
what is keymap and why does it produce this fatal error?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Richard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:25:25 GMT
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:08:46 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
chose to bless us all with this bit of wisdom:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Mayor Of R'lyeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> not
>>>to mention the damn problem of trying to see around these behemoths at
>>>intersections to see if there's any oncoming traffic.
>
>>Basic defensive driving techniques will solve this one. Hang back and
>>wait to go through the intersection when you can see. It'll only take
>>a couple of seconds and the life you save may be mine! :)
>
>You want me to wait for a *PARKED* car to move before I make a right turn at
>a stop sign onto a street where cross traffic doesn't stock.
>
>-s
You may want to make your town's government aware of this situation.
Most places don't allow anybody to park within 15-20 feet of an
intersection. That should be plenty of room to check for traffic no
matter what is parked in the last spot. Either your town doesn't have
this common sense rule or its being ignored.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred, Necronomicon
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From: Steven Whatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: 15 Feb 1999 17:19:44 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: But you'll need to do it with a syntactically correct,
: standards-compliant SQL query or it just won't work.
scary thought.
SELECT ice_cubes
INTO drinking_glass
FROM freezer.ice_maker;
:)
Steven
--
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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange.
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:20:45 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ben Russo wrote:
[cut]
> You could set up Web servers to handle
> collabarative things like calenders and such.
>
What are the options here? Haven't seen them, except with Netscape
Calendar Server, which isn't exactly free and doesn't run on Linux
anyway.
Or are you talking about "roll your own"?
Thanks in advance.
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From: Chris Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 15 Feb 1999 11:32:19 +0000
David Masterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But that is your opinion and, for everyone like you that view IE as an
> application, there is probably an equal number that would say that
> Microsoft has demonstrated in Windows-98 that putting browser
> functionality into the OS makes sense.
It's interesting to note that neither of the teams developing these two
components wanted to integrate the two. The only group who were keen on
the integration were the marketing people. Why am I not surprised by the
outcome? :-(
c.
--
Chris Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> College: +44 1223 506955
Trinity College, Cambridge Fax: +44 1299 402597
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Ryan)
Subject: Re: > 64MB RAM
Date: 15 Feb 1999 16:51:39 GMT
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:51:37 +0100, Danko Butorac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Joel Shellman wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>>
>>> How do I tell Linux (Redhat5.2) that I have 128MB RAM? At the moment
>>> when I top, it only recognises 64MB RAM. No wonder loading KDE and
>>> Netscape 4.5 totally mashes up the machine to 286 speeds!
>>>
>>> Kozzey
>
>
>Exact syntax for append command could be found in man pages, but for this
>problem you could insert line:
> append="mem=128M"
>into your lilo.conf, and then rerun lilo to update boot sector.
>
>
Or, to make life easy, just upgrade to a new kernel. Anything above
2.0.36 will see all your memory.
--
Tim Ryan
Factory Networks Group, Nortel Networks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
All opinions are mine, no one else can claim them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark J. Tilford)
Subject: Re: Precompiled x11amp 0.9?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 17:23:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 12 Feb 1999 19:56:44 GMT, Robert Hampf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> h�lt �essu fram:
>: > Can anybody send me or direct me to a compiled x11amp 0.9alpha2? I'm
>:
>: I picked up an rpm right off their www site
>
>Where? At x11amp.bz.nu? I can't find any rpms.
>
>rh
By the way, has anybody gotten this to actually play sound? I've gotten
it to compile, but when I press play, it quickly cycles through all the
song names, printing "Couldn't open audio", although nothing in /dev/ was
tied up at the time.
I suspect there is a problem with the Output plugin. Does anybody have
any idea what's wrong?
--
=======================
Mark Jeffrey Tilford
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek Allum)
Subject: Putting a small Linux onto a LS-120 disk
Date: 15 Feb 1999 11:12:34 -0000
I'm trying to install Redhat 5.1 from CD-ROM on to an LS-120
super-floppy, so that my students can carry their own Linux
installations around with them and not have to mess with our University
machines' hard disks.
However, I'm getting into some trouble and would appreciate some help.
First off, I booted from the CD-ROM and got the installation going as
far as using Disk Druid, which then recognised (maybe) my LS-120 drive
as hdc5.
I deleted all the partitions shown, as I thought they were irrelevant,
and then tried to put in a swap area of 32 MB and a Linux Native area
of 88 MB.
All was well until it came to try to format these partitions, when it
became clear all was not well after all, as the machine just hung
after seeming to format a partition ??
All ideas gratefully received.
--
Derek Allum Department of Computing & I.S.
University of Luton, Luton, England
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0
Date: 15 Feb 1999 17:35:35 GMT
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:46:03 +0000, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>It was the Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:26:22 +0100...
>..and Cj.Spaans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Check your unix-historybook and find out. SCO is a corp. from Microsoft
>> and Xenix is modified AT&T UNIX. It's main name is SV/386 and is one of
>> the most sold (in number) UNIX-versions.
>>
>> So before you're reply a message next time check you data. I have worked
>> for along time with SCO and SUN UNIX, and I'm now working with HP-UX for HP.
>> I think I know wat I'm talking about, but no hard feeling.
>
>I know that Xenix was made by Microsoft.
>But I don't think SCO is owned by MS.
You are right. I have a commercial version of SCO Unix and it is NOT a
Microsoft product.
The Name of the Corporation that is responsible for SCO is:
The Santa Cruz Operation. They hold all the trademarks.
---
"I will have the most ethical administration in history."
Bill Clinton; Nov. 1992
Yeah, right....
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From: "Louis Srygley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: 3c509/3c509b and SportsterVoice
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:50:10 -0500
I had a similiar problem when I installed a 3COM Etherlink III
(3c509B)
and found that it was always autodetecting the BNC port. Since I was
using 10base-T, It would not connect properly. I downloaded the 3COM
configuration disk (I used disk 2 for dos) via the www.3COM,com site.
This disk
includes a program called 3C5x9cfg.exe which can set the card to
always use
a certain port instead of auto-selecting.
This corrected my problem
--
Louis Srygley
Lead Technical Specialist
United Parcel Service
========================================
Opinions in this E-Mail are my own and are not necessarily those of
UPS.
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Rob Shinn wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
Calle wrote:
> Hello!
> I wonder does anyone have a checklist for the configuration steps
needed
> to be taken to get lan card and modem working?
> I'm running RedHat 5.2 on a Compaq EP 6333, 3COM 3c509 lan adapter
> and USR SportsterVoice 33.6 external modem.
> I have tried configuring the lan adapter using netconf and there's
some
> connection?! The hub indicates that there is a connection, (it is
lit), but
> when I try to ping another machine on my little network, the hub
doesn't
> indicate any activity. And ofcourse, it is not possible to ping my
Linux
> machine from the other box either.
> All the HOWTOs says that the 3c509 works fine, they just don�t say
> HOW to make it work fine!
The card must be enabled in your kernel. This usually involves
recompiling
the kernel and adding in the network driver, either built-in or as a
module.
I would recommend built-in if have plenty of RAM and need to use your
network
card a lot.
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From: Matt Zagni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup
Subject: Re: Help - Rockwell PCI V.90 Modem
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:11:34 +0000
About a week ago I asked for advice on setting up a 56k modem
I thought it maybe worthwhile mailing this to the above lists
if anyone had the same problems.
My modem turned out to be a...
Modular Tech site is www.modulartech.com
there is a modem driver for win95/98 and NT for this
card and a faq. The driver is called hcfv135.zip for win95
but also there is a driver for NT too.
Model Modem Number is 608463 560HCF it runs on a rockwell
chipset of RLVDL56DPF/SP 9844 B69792.2
As yet there is no driver for linux if people ask
but one is due soon. (unless any linux users have overcome
this small problem) PS I perfer linux more than windows
a much more user feindly os and well easy to config in places
too. however some of us use two os's just in case ?
another site that was mentioned was..
http://website.lineone.net/~adcox/index.htm
and
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html (for us linux users)
I hope it will work now.
Matt (perfers linux, but will confess to be a windows user too
at times).
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From: Laurent Deniau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: cern.linux
Subject: Re: big endian -> little endian converter
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:44:31 +0100
Slava Zimine wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> I'm faced to work with a big binary data file produced on HP which
> contains integers and floats.
>
> I'd like to work on it from linux and am faced to perform this big
> endian (hp) -> little endian (x86) bit order rearranging conversion for
> this file.
>
> Is there a standard/common program which does this ?
>
> a pointer for a good read on this topic would be appreciated to
> understand exactly this bit order rearrangement.
>
> ( I don't know f. ex. if different files with different data types in
> them require a specific conversion code or there is a universal
> solution ) .
>
> Kind regards & thanks.
>
> Slava
>
> --
> ***********************************
> Slava Zimine [EMAIL PROTECTED] (41 22) cern 767 62 62
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] uniGe 702 66 96
Search for the XDR (eXternal Data Representation) routines coming with the
RPC (Remote Procedure Call) library. This is very standard. It converts
data in a format independent of the architecture.
--
[ Deniau Laurent -- Numerical Analysis and Signal Processing ]
[ CERN -- The European Laboratory for Particle Physics ]
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://home.cern.ch/~ldeniau ]
[ -- One becomes old when dreams become regrets -- ]
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Reply-To: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
Subject: Re: WordPerfect 8 console version?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 17:42:55 GMT
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:06:55, Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Karel Jansens wrote:
> >
> > Call me old-fashioned, but I've always loved WordPerfect.
> > I'm using version 8 at the moment, and I learned that if you buy the server
> > edition, Corel throws in a console version.
> >
> > Anybody knows if this console version can be bought/freeloaded separately?
> >
>
> I bought one. Runs great!
Really?
How did you get your hands on it? Corel has no mention of a seperate
version of WordPerfect 8 character terminal version (I can only find it as
part of the Server edition, which, at USD 495.00 SRP is a little bit over
the hill for installation on a standalone machine).
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
=======================================================
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day,
but set fire to him and he's warm
for the rest of his life."
(Terry Pratchett - Jingo!)
=======================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles H. Chapman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Space Station uses 95/NT, disaster imminent (no joke)
Date: 15 Feb 1999 15:07:12 GMT
On 13 Feb 1999 21:08:54 GMT, Robert B. Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> In comp.os.linux.misc Michael C. Vergallen
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:56:23 GMT, Matt Kressel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >> >>The International Space Station (ISS) is networking seven IBM PCs
>> >> >>together using one NT box and three Win 95s. They are using
>Windows
>> >> >>based software to determine when the next communications pass will
>> >> >>occur.
>> >> >>Thoughts/Flames/Replies?
>
>Where "on earth" did you get the idea the PCs were running NT. The
>ISS will have many 486 computers in a 3 tier heirarchy. I don't know
>what OS they run but I'm pretty sure it ain't NT.
You should check your facts before making such rash statements. He got
the idea straight from NASA (well, via CNN):
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/space/9902/01/space.lan.idg/
Chuck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Trebisky)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Matrox G200 PCI support Linux??
Date: 15 Feb 1999 10:22:48 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Dowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 03:52:42 +1100, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I'm running XFree 3.3.3-1 and I have a strange problem: ....
>
>..... When I upgraded to 3331, most of the
>X11 binaries produced segmentation faults. The fix was to re-compile them,
>but netscape is well and truly dead. I did not have this problem at home
>where I use the XS3 chip. My two Linux boxes are otherwise identical, so
>put it down to problems with the G200 support.
Well, I have a G200 AGP card, I installed RH 5.2, then got the XFree 3.3.3
rpm's (just maybe the 3.3.3-1), and dumped them in (took 2 passes for some
reason), and I am running perfectly. No recompile, no hassle. I even lied
to the original RH install and told it I had a Matrox MGA card, and never
had to touch the config file after I installed the RPM's later, it just
came up. Maybe there is some problem unique to the PCI version ??
--
Tom Trebisky MMT Observatory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Arizona
http://kofa.as.arizona.edu/ Tucson, Arizona 85721
(520) 621-5135
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg Schwarz)
Subject: floating point accuracy on Linux?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 17:44:22 GMT
Tne following small sample program produces different output on Linux
(x86) than on any other platform I have tested:
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
int main(void) {
double a,b,c;
a=1.0;
b=0.2;
c=5.0;
printf("%g %g \n",a-b*c, b*c);
printf("%e %e \n",a-b*c, b*c);
printf("%f %f \n",a-b*c, b*c);
a=atof("1.0");
b=atof("0.2");
c=atof("5.0");
printf("%g %g \n",a-b*c, b*c);
printf("%e %e \n",a-b*c, b*c);
printf("%f %f \n",a-b*c, b*c);
return(0);
}
On Linux (x86) I get:
-5.55112e-17 1
-5.551115e-17 1.000000e+00
-0.000000 1.000000
-5.55112e-17 1
-5.551115e-17 1.000000e+00
-0.000000 1.000000
On IRIX (MIPS), FreeBSD (x86) etc. I get:
0 1
0.000000e+00 1.000000e+00
0.000000 1.000000
0 1
0.000000e+00 1.000000e+00
0.000000 1.000000
What's the deeper reason behind that discripancy? Is Linux's input or
output assumming it more accurate than it actually is?
--
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Institut f�r Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi
Technische Universit�t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: plip and forwarding
Date: 15 Feb 99 15:12:34 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc delegado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I know. But the question is how can I do proxyarp with plip. With ppp is easy
: because 'proxyarp' is just an option of the daemon but with plip there is not
: daemon and there is not options (I think). I would like do something like
: 'proxyarp' but manually. I don't know how but I want to.
Here's my "rc.plip" on the machine that does the forwarding to the laptopt:
#! /bin/sh
# rc.plip This shell script installs PLIP.
/sbin/insmod -f /lib/modules/2.0.35/net/plip.o
/sbin/ifconfig plip1 <desktop IP> pointopoint <laptop IP> up arp
/sbin/route add <laptop IP>
/usr/sbin/arp -s <laptop IP> <laptop HW address> pub
# End of rc.plip
Yeah, I know the HW address of a parallel port seems like an odd entry,
but it works. (It'll show up in ifconfig when you have plip.o loaded and
your PLIP device activated on the laptop). My laptop isn't here so I can't
share its rc.plip with you, but hopefully this'll get you going a bit.
cheers
jg
--
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