Linux-Misc Digest #50, Volume #27                 Wed, 7 Feb 01 16:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: IPTables doesn't work (nor IPCHAINS) for kernel 2.4.1 ("Danny Wijsman")
  Re: Cloning Linux Drives ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !! (Noname)
  Dual Processor advantage? ("Vishal Ailawadhi")
  Error in compiling Sane : EINVAL undeclared... ("Cedric Chausson")
  Re: rp-pppoe, kernel 2.4.x and DSL (PacBell) (Jay & Shell)
  Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner (torus2000)
  Re: ? Windows Same Gnome (Lee Webb)
  Re: Error in compiling Sane : EINVAL undeclared... (Greg Porr)
  Re: From an ex Microsoft devotee (Harlan Grove)
  Re: IPTables doesn't work (nor IPCHAINS) for kernel 2.4.1 (Tim Haynes)
  Upgrade to  2.4.1 kernel problems ("Chitre, Vikrant")
  XScreenSaver and NVidia OpenGL ("Brian C. Kiefer")
  Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner (Alex Yung)
  PXE booting and root file system ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: From an ex Microsoft devotee ("Lewis M. Dreblow")
  Re: Upgrade to  2.4.1 kernel problems (Craig Orsinger)
  Re: IPTables doesn't work (nor IPCHAINS) for kernel 2.4.1 (Manfred Bartz)
  Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner ("Dirk_NS")
  Lost partitions... ("Igor Popik")
  Re: Stumped by random X freezes,slow system ("Bill Callinder-Scott")
  I need your help!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Optimize for Speed? (Terry)
  Re: From an ex Microsoft devotee (Sinner from the Prairy)

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From: "Danny Wijsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: IPTables doesn't work (nor IPCHAINS) for kernel 2.4.1
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:15:25 +0100


"Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Dowling) writes:
>
> > On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 14:41:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >I've tried everything stated below and I'm still having problems.
> >
> > If it's worth anything, same here!
> >
> > I've always compiled the iptables stuff directly into the kernel, and
> > never as modules. With 2.4.1, I tried the modules. When I got the
> > problems you reported, I did not have the time to investigate; I just
> > went back to my old strategy, and compiled everything into the kernel,
> > and it works fine.
> >
> > I confess that using modules here is probably the better if at all
> > possible, as I would not expect that I need this all the time,
> > permanently in the kernel.
>
> Indeed. Well, I'm the opposite: always as modules, never a problem in
> sight. Then again, I make a point of asserting an `EXTRAVERSION=' line in
> the kernel's top-level Makefile, so I get different
> /lib/modules/2.4.N-version/ directories for different purposes.
>
> Alternatively, you could play with System.map and depmod -ae, and just
find
> the kernel options required to resolve the missing symbols... But having a
> clean /lib/modules/ directory always helps.
>

Which compiler do you use ?
The gcc compiler which comes with RH7 (2.96 I think) isnt a good one.
Instead use one version earlier.

goodluck
Danny




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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cloning Linux Drives
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:13:34 +0100

* Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> * Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "OpenMind" <**Mail Free America**> writes:
>> >> cp /dev/hda dev/hdb
>> 
>> There is no structure to preserve.  He just does a bit for bit copy with
>> the command he gave, until one or the other stream ends or errors.
>> That will produce a perfect copy of one file system to the other,
>> as a side-effect.
>> 
>> The only problem with it is that it's inefficient .. it copies the
>> meaningless bits on disk as well as the files and metadata.

> a bit for bit copy? Once I follow this similar suggestion and found
> my destination disk over 300M bigger than the original one... You've

That is impossible. You made a "bit for bit copy". So its filesystem
meta data is the same as the old filesystem meta data, and therefore
in particular the new filesystem size is the same as the old filesystem
size.

> got a clue why?  It just took me as a newbie quite an awful amount

It's impossible. In the first place, your "destination disk" is
really two things: one, a file system, and two a partition.  The file
system cannot be larger than the partition (though it may say anything
it likes about itself), and the partition size is a constant (being
determined only by a table entry in the zeroth sector of the disk).  So
you must be talking about the file system, not the partition, and you
must be misremembering - I believe that you found the copied file
system to be 300MB bigger than the partition it was in, not 300MB
bigger than the filesystem you copied it from.

Well, yah, boo, Don't Do That Then. You can't sensibly copy a
500MB partition bit-for-bit to a 200MB one. You didn't really
go beyond the end of the partition, but the half of the file  system
you managed to write thinks it did.

> Still don't know why? look into the -d flag of cp, and let alone
> those necessary -p -R flags. 

No .. don't. This advice is nonsense. The -d flag means to copy
symbolic links without diving into them to fetch data from where they
point at. That is only relevant when copying a file system, which is
NOT what one is doing by cp /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2. Those are just
single enormous binary "files". There are no symbolic links to
consider.



Peter

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From: Noname <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !!
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 18:16:28 GMT

So enabling swap didn't work?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have all the java crap unchecked (as far as I can tell) and it
still
> takes a lot of RAM.  mozilla-bin is the only thing it runs (4
processes
> of it) and it takes 100+MB.
>
> Can someone help me?
>
> I know gnus is great, but I'd like to have a graphical mail
program...
> Anyone have any suggestions???
>
> Dan
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > On 02 Feb 2001 03:43:00 GMT, James Barwick
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >I've been using Netscape 6 since pre3 (earlier pre2 and pre1 too
buggy).  However, ALL
> > >four versions (pre1--release) all used 380MB of RAM when started.
> > >
> > >Mozilla takes up about 100MB.  It opens 16 java2 JVM's each taking
approx 20MB.
> >
> >   I don't bother with Java.  Mozilla 0.7 never even hits 16 MB on
> > my machine... that I've seen, anyway.
> >
> >
>

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From: "Vishal Ailawadhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dual Processor advantage?
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:52:34 -0800

Hi,

I'm new to this NG, and I'm just about to order some PC's for our
department. I was wondering how much of an advantage there was in getting a
dual machine (800 P3) as opposed to a single processor. In Linux, can you
specify which processes run on which processesor? Or is it automatic? Is
there really a benifit?

Also, as a side question, I would like the machines to be dual bootable, but
only one OS will be installed on the machine at delivery. Should I get Linux
or Win2k? Which is easier to build off of. I was assuming Win2k, but would I
need to blow the drives and repartition anyway? Or should I try to get the
drives partitioned to begin with? Basically, I was wondering what the
easiest process would be.

Thanks for all of your help.

Vishal




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From: "Cedric Chausson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Error in compiling Sane : EINVAL undeclared...
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:58:35 +0100

Hello all,

I have a problem while compiling sane-backends 1.0.4.

The ./configure goes all right. Then I do make. It starts compiling some
but it ends with an error message :

sanei_net.c: In function `w_option_value':
sanei_net.c:122: `EINVAL' undeclared (first use in this function)
sanei_net.c:122: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
sanei_net.c:122: for each function it appears in.)
make[1]: *** [sanei_net.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Cedric/Installation/sane-backends-1.0.4/sanei'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Anyone have an idea ?

I'm running RH 6.2 with Gnome 1.2.

Thanks in advance.

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From: Jay & Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rp-pppoe, kernel 2.4.x and DSL (PacBell)
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:22:56 GMT

Robert Lynch wrote:

> Hiya-
>
> I am sure if I really had thoroughly RTFM at "Roaring Penguin":
>
> http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/
>
> and:
>
> http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~mostrows/
>
> I would know that with my 2.4.x kernel (with pppoe support
> compiled in), to get DSL going with PacBell what I needed to do
> was to install:
>
> rp-pppoe-2.5-4 as an rpm
>

RoaringPenguin has rp-pppoe 2.8 out, which is an upgrade for kernel 2.4!

And use the RPM it's easier. rpm -Uhv rp-pppoe*.rpm
make sure you are in a console window as root



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From: torus2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:30:04 -0000

Just curious! Which 4 files are enough for Debian installation?
Thanks

Torus2000
> 
> 
> It is possible if you have access to a Linux machine.  You can mount
> the ISO file to a loopback device which allows you to inspect the
> content of the ISO file and copy out whatever you want.  I was a
> student once.  I can certainly understand if you don't want to buy
> from cheapbytes.
> 
> If you switch to the Debian distribution, your life will be a lot
> easier.  You only need to download 4 files to complete your
> installation.  This installation gives you a basic functioning Linux.
> You will download whatever you need based on what software you want to
> install down the road.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Webb)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: ? Windows Same Gnome
Date: 7 Feb 2001 19:46:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 07:01:06 GMT, Alec Soroudi wrote:
>    Hi,
>
>    I love the same gnome game that comes with Gnome.  Does anyone know of
>Windows/DOS version of it or a similar game?
>
There's TileFall: same idea, except with square blocks. 
www.tilefall.com

Lee.

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Subject: Re: Error in compiling Sane : EINVAL undeclared...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Porr)
Date: 7 Feb 2001 14:58:01 -0500

In article <95s5ue$1njq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Cedric Chausson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:
>sanei_net.c:122: `EINVAL' undeclared (first use in this function)

It sounds like you need to include errno.h, so EINVAL will be defined.

- Greg

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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: From an ex Microsoft devotee
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:53:35 GMT

In article <sodg6.8865$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
>HAH.. You have the development tools, but not an IDE. And i do NOT
>write software in some text editor like vi/emacs...not in a business
>world...

It depends on what you're doing. For GUI dialog layout, there's
something to be said for GUI tools. For code maintenance and database
interface development, GUI tools provide arguable benefits compared to
text editors.

Corporate development (possibly excepting specialized firmware for
machinery and realtime data feeds) under Windows is mostly Java and
Visual Basic (with a little bit of Delphi). It's easy to train someone
to become marginally productive in Visual Basic under Visual Studio,
but it's like teaching someone to program a VCR by showing them how to
enter the special codes in TV program listings rather than teaching
them how to set the date, time and channel.

My own impression is that 'business world' programming generally
involves far too much binary executable programming and nowhere near
enough scripting. I suppose it's a good thing for Windows that Visual
Studio makes this simpler, but it's not a bad thing that linux isn't
yet burdened by this paradigm.


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From: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: IPTables doesn't work (nor IPCHAINS) for kernel 2.4.1
Date: 07 Feb 2001 20:03:37 +0000
Reply-To: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"Danny Wijsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > Indeed. Well, I'm the opposite: always as modules, never a problem in
> > sight. Then again, I make a point of asserting an `EXTRAVERSION=' line
> > in the kernel's top-level Makefile, so I get different
> > /lib/modules/2.4.N-version/ directories for different purposes.
> >
> > Alternatively, you could play with System.map and depmod -ae, and just
> > find the kernel options required to resolve the missing symbols... But
> > having a clean /lib/modules/ directory always helps.
> >
> 
> Which compiler do you use ?

For preference,
zsh, straw  8:01PM piglet % gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/2.95.2/specs
gcc version 2.95.2 20000220 (Debian GNU/Linux)

or most often,
zsh, spodzone  8:02PM piglet % gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.3/specs
gcc version 2.95.3 20010125 (prerelease)

> The gcc compiler which comes with RH7 (2.96 I think) isnt a good one. 
> Instead use one version earlier.

I've never yet fallen foul of the compiler version, and not using RH, I
have no intention of falling foul of it any time soon ;)

But for those of you stuck with it, edit Makefile to use `kgcc' instead of
`gcc' and you should be away with the fairies.

~Tim
-- 
   8:01pm  up 44 days, 22:09, 11 users,  load average: 0.90, 0.32, 0.13
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |A big sky above me,
http://piglet.is.dreaming.org     |West winds blow.

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From: "Chitre, Vikrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Upgrade to  2.4.1 kernel problems
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 14:11:26 -0600

Hi all,

I am trying to upgrad from kernel 2.2.6-15 to  2.4.1. I used the steps
mentioned in the "Kernel How-to" to do this. The compile went fine. I
did the "make dep" , and that worked fine also and I had a fully
compiled bzImage. The next step was supposed to be the installation of
the kernel. I could not use "make bzImage" to install it, since my
lilo.conf specified that my vmlinuz was in /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.6-15
("image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.6-15"). So I did it manually: copied the newly
compiled bzImage as vmlinuz in /boot/ and changed the lilo.conf file
appropriately. Then I ran lilo.

On rebooting, linux does not boot. I can see that it is using the new
kernel (different messages) but halfway it hangs at "Partition check
hde". What am I doing wrong? More importantly, how do I get out of this
thing? Do I have to reinstall everything again (i.e the orginal kernel
from the CD etc.) ?
(The system worked fine on the original kernel)
I am a complete newbie at this, so baby-steps would be appreciated! :-)

My system details are:

Red hat 6.0
Original kernel 2.2.6-15
PIII 500, 128 MB RAM
Dual boot on a 8Gb hard disk with UDMA4 mode HPT366 controller: windows
and linux.
DVDROM, and CDRW as master and slave



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From: "Brian C. Kiefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: XScreenSaver and NVidia OpenGL
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:11:28 -0500

Hello all,

Has anyone been able to get the OpenGL screensavers that come with
Xscreensaver to work with an Nvidia graphics card which has verion .96
of the kernel and glx driver installed?

Thanks,

Brian


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Yung)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner
Date: 7 Feb 2001 20:04:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

1. Start from here http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/#new-inst
2. Pick the cpu platform
3. Read Methods for Installing Debian
4. Download these 4 file
   a. boot disk image
   b. root disk image
   c. drivers.tgz
   d. base2_2.tgz

Note: You also need to download "rawrite.exe" if you are using DOS to
write the image file to floppy.  If you are downloading those files
from a Unix machine, you use the "dd" command.

torus2000 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Just curious! Which 4 files are enough for Debian installation?
: Thanks

: Torus2000
: > 
: > It is possible if you have access to a Linux machine.  You can mount
: > the ISO file to a loopback device which allows you to inspect the
: > content of the ISO file and copy out whatever you want.  I was a
: > student once.  I can certainly understand if you don't want to buy
: > from cheapbytes.
: > 
: > If you switch to the Debian distribution, your life will be a lot
: > easier.  You only need to download 4 files to complete your
: > installation.  This installation gives you a basic functioning Linux.
: > You will download whatever you need based on what software you want to
: > install down the road.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PXE booting and root file system
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 20:21:25 GMT

There's a Linux PC at my work that is acting as a PXE server to serve up
remote boots for new PC's. (The DHCP server is a separate PC.) Right now
if you boot from it, it'll download the Linux kernel, then some initrd
image, and then it'll mount the root filesystem, which contains ash and
some shell scripts.

My question is, how could I add files to the root filesystem so that
when a PC is remote booted from the PXE server, that it'll mount the new
files as the root filesystem? I was not the one who set up the PXE
server and unfortunately I'm a newbie at both Linux and PXE. :-)

Thanks so much for your help!


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From: "Lewis M. Dreblow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: From an ex Microsoft devotee
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 15:43:02 -0500

Have you heard about kylix from Borland... here is their recent
announcment.
========================================================================
Kylix(TM) is Coming. Get ready!
The Kylix(TM) U.S. Seminar Tour begins February 8th, 2001

Get a jump-start on developing RAD business applications for =

Linux(R) by attending this one-day technical seminar. Learn how =

this high-performance native Linux development environment can =

greatly increase your productivity.

Hosted by Borland Developer Relations, the Kylix(TM) Seminar =

series will offer all the technical need-to-know components of =

Kylix to give you the head start you need to develop for Linux(R).

Topics to be covered include:
- Kylix Product Overview
- CLX(TM)  architecture and Visual Development
- Database application development with DataCLX(TM) and =

  dbExpress(TM)
- Web application development with NetCLX(TM)
- What's new in the compiler and run-time library
- Creating Components
- Linux systems programming
- Porting applications from Delphi(TM) for Windows(R)
========================================================================
"Nils O. Sel=E5sdal" wrote:
> =

> "Michael Heiming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > alan simes wrote:
> =

> > > As soon as there are real productivity tools available ie. Visual S=
tudio
> > > for Linux, Microsoft is a whole heap a trouble !!!
> >
> > ehh..I don't know if you want to start a flame war here, but this Vis=
ual
> > Studio crap, a productivity tool?
> Then you havnt used it, or dont know how to use it..
> =

> > You have a complete development and server package, on your distro, t=
here
> > are many things to
> > check out on those CDs, for everything else there is feshmeat or goog=
le,
> HAH.. You have the development tools, but not an IDE. And i do NOT writ=
e
> software
> in some text editor like vi/emacs...not in a business world...
> Lucky i mostly do java programming, there's atleast JBuilder and Forte.=
=2E

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From: Craig Orsinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrade to  2.4.1 kernel problems
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 20:45:56 GMT


"Chitre, Vikrant" wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am trying to upgrad from kernel 2.2.6-15 to  2.4.1. I used the steps
> mentioned in the "Kernel How-to" to do this. The compile went fine. I
> did the "make dep" , and that worked fine also and I had a fully
> compiled bzImage. The next step was supposed to be the installation of
> the kernel. I could not use "make bzImage" to install it, since my
> lilo.conf specified that my vmlinuz was in /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.6-15
> ("image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.6-15"). So I did it manually: copied the newly
> compiled bzImage as vmlinuz in /boot/ and changed the lilo.conf file
> appropriately. Then I ran lilo.

[snip]

        If you have an emergency boot floppy, you can boot using 
the floppy, then rebuild. Roughly, the procedure to recovery is:

1. Mount your root partition on /mnt.

2. Mount your /usr partition on /mnt/usr (if you have a separate
/usr partition).

3. Chroot to /mnt (see "man chroot" for details, you'll probably
run the command "/sbin/chroot /mnt /bin/bash").

4. Repair you /etc/lilo.conf file, and run /sbin/lilo.

5. Reboot.

        Hopefully, you still have the old version of your kernel.
In the future, the thing to do when upgrading a kernel is to keep 
the old one as a backup. Set LILO to boot the new kernel by default,
but keep an entry for the old one, renaming it "old" or something 
like that. Don't _ever_ count on a newly built kernel working 
properly until you've been able to try it out. If you can't 
remember what you named the old version, just hit the TAB key at
the LILO boot prompt.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: IPTables doesn't work (nor IPCHAINS) for kernel 2.4.1
From: Manfred Bartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 20:46:00 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I've tried everything stated below and I'm still having problems. It just
> won't work. I keep getting the undefined symbols and I'm not sure where
> they are!
> 
> This is after I updated all packages to fall into the minimum versions
> specified:
> 
> [root@naboo /root]# depmod -a
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
> /lib/modules/2.4.1/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack.o

Hmm, I remember having had problems like that too.  Frustrating.
I still don't know exactly how I fixed it, but installing a fresh
source tree probably had something to do with it.  :/ You can achieve
the same with ``make mrproper'' (carefull, it will wipe your .config)

I also just stumbled across this from <http://www.tux.org/lkml/#s8-8>:

  8.Why do I get unresolved symbols like foo__ver_foo in modules? 

    (KO) If /proc/ksyms or the output from depmod -ae contains symbols
    like "foo__ver_foo" then you have been bitten by the broken
    Makefile code for symbol versioning. The only safe way to recover
    is save your config, delete everything, restore the config and
    recompile. Do this:

    mv .config ..
    make mrproper
    mv ../.config .
    make oldconfig
    make dep clean bzImage modules
    # install, boot

-- 
Manfred
===============================================================
ipchainsLogAnalyzer, NetCalc, whois at: <http://logi.cc/linux/>

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From: "Dirk_NS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:52:20 -0600

Check out SuSe Linux Distro .. I think it has an unpacked download

"Richard Snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I try to download and install Linux on my computer, but I haven't got a
CD
> > burner.
> > The only download methods I can find on the net is iso-images or all the
> > individual files from FTP, which would take me days to download.
> > So I'm wondering if there's any way to unpack or convert the ISO-images
to
> > individual files without having to burn a CD.
> > Or if anyone know of a site to download SuSE Linux 7 as a ZIP or similar
> > archive file.
> > All help appreciated, and please no answers like "buy a CD burner".
> >
> > Audun
>
> try www.cheapbytes.com and order a cd shipped to you.  ONly a few
> dollars plus shipping.



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From: "Igor Popik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lost partitions...
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 22:24:51 +0100

Does anybody know how to find/identify lost linux/ext2 partition? I can't
fix my parttion table because i don't know where that partition really is...
I have the same problem with reiserfs partition. Is there a header, or
specific i-node table header that starts linux (ext2/reiser) partition?



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From: "Bill Callinder-Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Stumped by random X freezes,slow system
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:53:02 -0000

Chet

The version of Gnome that came with RedHat 6.2 was, in my opinion, very
flaky. I would normally suggest using KDE for a while to see if the problem
still persists but RH don't like KDE (Qt licence) so they've arranged for it
to be installed in a non-standard place. Still that shouldn't matter too
much. It only becomes a pain if you want to install other KDE apps and
utilities. You may find lots of strange files all over the place which are
represented by icons that look like bombs. These are core dumps and can be
deleted. They're whats left after a crash!

--
Bill Callinder-Scott

Chet Vora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I recently installed RH6.2 on a HP Kayak XA workstation which used to host
a
> Win9X system before(removed). After having lots of problems with the
display
> (because of incorrect resolution settings) and the mouse (cursor would
position
> itself on the LH corner and not move from there. Cured by choosing the
right
> driver for it), I was able to get XFree86 running on it. But I've been
> experiencing sudden random freezes while in Gnome. Also, things seem to be
very
> slow, though that observation might also hold true when in console mode
(without
> X). There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the freezes. The one thing
worth
> mentioning is that the system seems to be using the SCSI driver for the
PCI bus.
>
> Relevant o/p of dmesg:
> -------------------------
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
> ncr53c8xx: at PCI bus 2, device 0, function 0
> ncr53c8xx: 53c875 detected with Symbios NVRAM
> ncr53c875-0: rev=0x04, base=0xfbfff800, io_port=0xe800, irq=10
> ncr53c875-0: Symbios format NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, Parity Checking
> ncr53c875-0: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex)
05/4e/80/01/00/24
> ncr53c875-0: final   SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex)
05/46/a0/00/08/24
> ncr53c875-0: on-chip RAM at 0xfbffe000
> ncr53c875-0: resetting, command processing suspended for 2 seconds
> ncr53c875-0: restart (scsi reset).
> ncr53c875-0: enabling clock multiplier
> ncr53c875-0: Downloading SCSI SCRIPTS.
> scsi0 : ncr53c8xx - version 3.2a-2
> scsi : 1 host.
>
> I am also attaching the XF86Config file.
>
> Would appreciate any help.
>
> TIA,
> Chet
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I need your help!!
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 20:50:09 GMT

I need to install Linux OS to a Pentium MMX 133Mhz, 2 HDD(540M HD,170M
HD), 64M RAM. I download Corel Distribution, and try to install it in
540M HDD with SWAP in the 170M HDD. I can't even if I install it with
the minimun installation option, it says that I need a bigger HDD. Can
anyone know what distribution and version do I need to use. I plan to
use only StarOffice 5.2  and Netscape , (no games, no utilities).

thanks in advance.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Optimize for Speed?
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:08:43 -0600

Hi,

I am quite new to Linux and trying both Red hat 7 and 
Mandrake 7.2 on a rather old machine (Pentium 160, 96MB,
4GB SCSI hard drive).  I choose KDE and the system
seems to be pretty sluggish in responding mouse clicks,
refreshing desktop and openning a directory.  I wonder
what can be done to improve the performance of such a
system.  Since I have been using Win NT 4 for a long time,
my impression is that NT 4 runs faster on such a system.
Likely I didn't set up Linux in the best way.  So, my
questions are:

1. Are there any differences in performance among different
distributions?

2. Are there any difference in performance between KDE and
GNOME?

3. Anything that eats up a lot of resources, like memory
or processor time?

Thanks in advance,

Terry

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From: Sinner from the Prairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: From an ex Microsoft devotee
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 16:07:17 -0500

"Nils O. Sel�sdal" wrote:

> > You have a complete development and server package, on your distro, there
> > are many things to
> > check out on those CDs, for everything else there is feshmeat or google,

> HAH.. You have the development tools, but not an IDE. And i do NOT write
> software
> in some text editor like vi/emacs...not in a business world...
> Lucky i mostly do java programming, there's atleast JBuilder and Forte..

Even though there's Glade and KDevelop, I'm most interested in Java
development under Linux.

Mr. Nils O. Sel�sdal: You say that you are a Java developer under Linux.
I've noticed several tools around: JEdit, Forte, BlueJ and so on.

What would you recommend? What's your experience?

Thanks in advance,



Salut,
Sinner
-- 
http://www.geocities.com/sinner_prairy
[MaDuiXa PoWeR] http://www.maduixa.net
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=====Sinner==== >=--[]>- a Mach 2.5!!  Running on Mandrake 7.2
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