Linux-Misc Digest #76, Volume #19 Wed, 17 Feb 99 21:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: MS IIS Vs Apache (dmalcolm)
thanks, but... (Luke)
Re: Linux has too many problems ("TomX")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Tim Black")
pppd daemon died unexpectedly (shaithis)
glibc making my life a misery, Help! ("JACK")
Re: Linux has too many problems (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Linux has too many problems (David Kirkpatrick)
Re: Login incorrect (Upali Bandara)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Matthias Buelow)
Re: What's the Linux Lab? WAS Re: C Programming for ISA Card ("G. Pollack")
[Q]: Can't get my scanner working (A. van Werven)
Re: X Servers (Ignis Tenebrarum)
PPP seems slow (joe)
Re: dns setup problem (Dave Calvin)
Inito 9100A SCSI CARD COMPILING PROBLEMS (Alan Fried)
Re: SMC Ethernet cards (Glen Turner)
Re: POP3 access through IP Masquerade (Michiel Denie)
Re: Mail client for Linux (Barry O'Neill)
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:26:07 -0600
From: dmalcolm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS IIS Vs Apache
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I am not super familiar with Apache but you might take a look at their
website
http://www.apache.org/
I have set up Apache on a Slackware 3.6 Linux 2.036 box (I also upgraded to
the 2.2.1 kernel).
Apache seems easy to use once you figure out all the places to put config
files. As mentioned
in one of the other replies, there are only a couple of basic config files,
but if you need security you will
have to dig into the docs a bit. For instance you have to tell Apache via a
new config file that I called 'users'
who can log in. Mine is in '/var/lib/apache'. Then go to the subdirectory
(apache protects by subdirectory)
you wish to protect and create a file called '.htaccess'
'.htaccess' has the following format:
============================================
AuthName rsadf
AuthType Basic
AuthUserFile /var/lib/apache/users
require user user1 user2 user3
===========================================
The file 'users' has the following format:
=======================================
user1
user2
user3
========================================
I'm not completely sure about the users file format. The users file can be
anywhere and named anything as long as its pointedd
to by the 'AuthUserFile' line in '.htaccess'. My only '.htaccess' file is
in /var/lib/apache/share/htdocs/rsadf.
Apache addes the passwords to the 'users' file using a utility called
htpasswd. 'htpasswd' is located in my /var/lib/apache/bin directory.
Note that Apache as it comes does not support SSL. You can however manage
some security as I've described. If you need SSL there is a version
available for one or two hundred and I think the Apache Website has a link
to it.
Hope this helps.
Dan Malcolm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cufc wrote:
> Hi, I have been tasked at work to provide a Webserver (Hardware and
> software)
> for our corporate intranet, I am an NT/Novell admin by trade but am
> getting more
> and more interested in Linux ( I hve been using it for about 12 months)
> This is maybe a chance to introduce linux into my working environment
> My question is, although I have been using linux for a while, I have
> never looked at
> apache webserver, Can anyone give me any insight into its ease of use
> and administration
> The intranet will start off simple at first, but will require setting up
> departmental security
> individual homepages/ability to check e-mail via Exchange server/user
> feedback pages etc
> etc, my boss will expect an NT server with IIS, but If I can get away
> with a linux system
> I intend to install Redhat 5.2 and Apache, anyone got much experience of
> setting up
> such a combination and what does it perform like
>
> Just looking for some simple opinions on what u think I should do
> I am quite Familiar with NT Server/IIS combination but as i said before
> it may be a good chance to promote linux where I work
>
> Any help or advice would be much appreciated
>
> regards
>
> Adrain
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: thanks, but...
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:10:38 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Don't use /dev/cua<n> -- they're deprecated. Use /dev/ttyS<n>.
ok... I tried fiddling with those instead, still no luck... I had
figured the cua's were ok since RedHat's setup uses them... *shrug*
> You can set your modem to whatever IRQ you wish using isapnp -- that's
> the point of the exercise. Do a `cat /proc/interrupts' to see if
> there is anything else using IRQ 11. Probably not, but just to be
> safe.
yeah? i thought you had to try to set them the same as they showed
up on 95... well, I have tried setting the IRQ to 3, 11, and probably
other things (I've been at this a while now) and setting ttyS(1|3)
to match. there doesn't appear to be an entry for either IRQ 3 or 11
in /proc/interrupts (not before or after I do isapnp). in
/proc/ioports, there is a line something like this:
0x02e8: serial (set)
in addition to the other two "auto" serial ioports; this is good,
i think, but the end results are the same -- no dice.
> Just point minicom at /dev/ttyS<n>, nevermind about /dev/modem, it's
> just a symlink anyway. Make doubly sure that the output of setserial
> for that port matches the expected setup of your modem via isapnp.
i know, i set the /dev/modem symlink myself; it's what minicom and ppp
use by default (right?)
> In minicom, after setting it to point to the correct port, you should
> be able to do the `at' and get a response. You may also need to
> change the modem init line -- I just use `atz.'
ok... i tried changing the init string from the long mess it was to
'ATZ' with no results... when i'm in minicom, i can type "Ctrl-E"
(to turn local echo on) and then AT<enter> and i ought to see
something, am i right? i don't...
so, i still need advice...
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From: "TomX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux has too many problems
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:05:12 -0800
Hi Linux Lovers,
Don't be angry! I didn't mean Linux is not a good OS.
Everything was OK when I installed Slackware 2.0.9 on i486 system,
but when I tried to install the hottest RedHat on a PII-300 system,
I get so disappointed. Really too many problems.E.g if you
copy all the RPMS files from a fat partition to a linux partition, it
definitely hang up. Just a cp command!!!!. I guess Linux kernel
can't handle some hard disk operation properly.
I believe the problems are caused by my hardware because I had
good experience on i486 system.
>A software engineer's experience on RedHat 5.2:
>
>Extremely difficult to install. (take me one week to get installed)
>Often hang up(esp. in X Window).
>Less descriptive error messages.
>So many problems, Linux still has a long way to go.
>
>I believe all the problems I met are caused by my hardware,
>but why Linux developers can't test on more hardware list?
>
>
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From: "Tim Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:55:31 -0000
The Infernal One wrote in message
<7afev1$65t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Keith G. Murphy wrote:
>>Alexander Viro wrote:
>
>
>An objective measure of ease of use is extremely hard.....
Surely you are referring to the ease of use of the shell and Windows
package, no tto the OS itself. Any flavour of Unix is notoriously difficult
to use, however the shells / windowing front-ends are what make the system
"easy" to use, not the OS. Can you imaine what NT / Win95.98 is doing in
the back ground when its serving up the familier windows desktop.
The thing about Unix is if you don't like your Windowing package, change it.
Bill doesn't give you a choice. Its all about options at the end of the day
regards
tim.
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From: shaithis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pppd daemon died unexpectedly
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:21:10 -0600
I get the error "pppd daemon died unexpectedly" when trying
to connect to The Internet. Does anyone know how I can get
around this?
Thank you in advance,
BCarver
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From: "JACK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: glibc making my life a misery, Help!
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:44:17 -0000
howdy
I'm trying to compile and install glibc-2.0.7.pre6 however during the
make procedure i get the following error
make[1]: Entering directory `/root/glibc/glibc-2.0.7pre6/ctype'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `others'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/glibc/glibc-2.0.7pre6/ctype'
make -C db others
make[1]: Entering directory `/root/glibc/glibc-2.0.7pre6/db'
gcc -B../ -nostdlib -nostartfiles -o
akedb -Wl,-dynamic-linker=/usr/local/lib/ld-linux.so.2 -g ../csu/start.o
../csu/crti.o `gcc -B../ --print-file-name=crtbegin.o` makedb.o
ibdb.so.2 -Wl,-rpath-link=..:../elf:../nss:../nis:.:../resolv
../libc.so.6 ../libc_nonshared.a -lgcc
`gcc -B../ --print-file-name=crtend.o` ../csu/crtn.o
../libc.so.6: undefined reference to `__libc_cleanup_end'
make[1]: *** [makedb] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/glibc/glibc-2.0.7pre6/db'
make: *** [db/others] Error 2
i have binutils version 2.8
Gcc version 2.7.2.2
libc5 version 5.44.4
make version 3.75
according to the documentation this should be eough to complile I'm running
kernel 2.0.30
,and i'm about to loose my mind has any one any ideas
j
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux has too many problems
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:25:28 -0600
TomX wrote:
> A software engineer's experience on RedHat 5.2:
>
> Extremely difficult to install. (take me one week to get installed)
> Often hang up(esp. in X Window).
> Less descriptive error messages.
> So many problems, Linux still has a long way to go.
>
> I believe all the problems I met are caused by my hardware,
> but why Linux developers can't test on more hardware list?
A 58 year old newbie who has lost 10% of his grey matter and can't
remember squat (me!) has, in the last nine months, installed Linux
(RH5.0,5.2,SuSE5.3,SuSE 6.0) on four machines without a hitch. I have
learned to RTFMs because I can't remember them and my linear logic is
going south. I haven't had a spontaneous kernal crash - I've caused
them all playing around!. I recompiled the RH5.0 to remove sound so I
could install OSS. That worked nice. Netscape 4.5 locked up on me
yesterday - I had just upgrade from SuSE 5.3 to 6.0 and it came with the
upgrade. I'm giving it some more time. If it locks again I'm reverting
back to 4.05, which never gave me problems. SuSE 6.0 is great!
I'm a programmer by profession and by hobby. A software engineer who
can't install and run Linux may want to consider another profession.
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux has too many problems
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:14:58 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TomX,
Basically your right. Linux is a frustrating experience and
you have to be almost lucky to get the right hardware and version
of linux to get an easy load. Things are much better than they
were a couple of years ago. You almost have to have a working
system with documentation to get the install doc and hardware
list. But most hardware will work with Linux - the hardware list
of "supported" cards is extensive. I'm comparing that to
computer manf's like Stratus, Sequoia and Data General who make
hardware and their own OS. Qualifying a new card for full
compatibility and support costs grillions which is impossible for
Linux. Some development testing is done but I believe the bulk
of "qualification" is really done through field feedback. There
is no backward compatibility SW suite which runs on specific
hardware for new Linux SW which definitively qualifies linux for
all hardware.
But even with the kluge nature of relative disorganized
development and "qualification" of software the result is an
amazingly stable product - for free no less. And compared to
loading from scratch a private companies version of Unix Linux is
as easy if not easier than most. Usually with a private company
you would be starting with qualified hardware. If you insure
your hardware is compatible before you start with Linux then
loading say a server install with RH 5.2 is mindless.
A slight mod off any process introduces complexity. If you do
a custom install then you have selections to choose from and it
may take a few shots to get things right. Not a big deal. At DG
the process for a "custom" install was worse and more error
prone. The same at Stratus and Sequoia. I would rate a Linux
install as easier. At DG it took me two weeks to get a (then
new) Matrox Millennium configured and that's with access to dev
and support. So all in all Linux is not bad or better than some
of the "professional" Unix versions out there.
TomX wrote:
>
> A software engineer's experience on RedHat 5.2:
>
> Extremely difficult to install. (take me one week to get installed)
> Often hang up(esp. in X Window).
> Less descriptive error messages.
> So many problems, Linux still has a long way to go.
>
> I believe all the problems I met are caused by my hardware,
> but why Linux developers can't test on more hardware list?
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Upali Bandara)
Subject: Re: Login incorrect
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:18:18 +0100
Christian Plent schrieb:
>
> I got a little amazing problem (Rehat 5.1).
> I can't login as a normal user (only root works). The answer is "login
> incorrect".
> I've checked my passwd, the available shell, the directory security,
> etc...
> Any idea ?
Me too!
I Added a new user (adduser), set the password for the user (passwd
samuel). But a login as samuel did not succeed. Using the command "su"
you can help yourself, but I don't think you want that to do.
Samuel, 16
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Buelow)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 17 Feb 1999 23:59:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas L|fgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>An argument _against_ using the BSD license [2] is that it is
>"encumbered" by this clause:
>
>--[ begin include ]--
>3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this
> software must display the following acknowledgement:
>
> This product includes software developed by the University of
> California, Berkeley and its contributors.
>--[ end include ]--
>
>This clause can lead to problems, as argued in [3].
>
>
>[1] http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
>[2] http://www.freebsd.com/copyright/license.html
>[3] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bsd.html
You've got some point with clause 3. This is the reason why it is
not included anymore in the example ("BSD-style") copyright template
provided in /usr/share/examples/etc/bsd-style-copyright on recent
FreeBSD installations.
Only the first two clauses, and the warranty disclaimer remain.
I guess clause 3 and 4 of the Berkeley copyright have something
to do with the research contract under which the software
licensed with the original BSD copyright was developped (especially
clause 4 looks something like that), I don't know the facts
about this though.
--
- mkb
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From: "G. Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.dev.c-programming,linux.dev.serial
Subject: Re: What's the Linux Lab? WAS Re: C Programming for ISA Card
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:14:36 -0500
Norm Dresner wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a URL for the "linux lab" project?
> Thanks
> Norm
>
> Mike Mangan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > try the linux lab project.
> > good luck.
> > -mike
> >
htp://www.llp.fu-berlin.de
--
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A. van Werven)
Subject: [Q]: Can't get my scanner working
Date: 17 Feb 1999 16:24:09 GMT
Please help:
I've got a Plug&Scan 96 CP parallel flatbed scanner but I can't get it
working.
I've installed sane-1.00 on my RedHat 5.1 system, but
find-scanner returns no output at all and
scanimage says "sane_start: Invalid argument" for whatever device I try
(should be /dev/lp0, I guessi).
Any thoughts ?
Ciao,
Alphons
--
A. van Werven
Dept. of Computer Science, Leiden University, The Netherlands
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~avwerven
"Karate no jugyo wa issho de aru" - Karate training is a lifetime.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ignis Tenebrarum)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X Servers
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:34:17 +0100
Reply-To: [NOSPAM]@ignis_dot_tenebrarum_at_skynet_dot_be
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:26:13 -0600, Evgueni Tzvetanov wrote:
>Not listed - not supported. Don't forget that...
In 3.3.3.1, the Verite 1000 is _both_ listed and supported, only the card
sucks.
--
"Slaves are those of this world
Given freedom to lay chains upon The Master" Emperor
"De meeste mensen zouden geen vlieg kwaad doen omdat ze te stom zijn om er
een te vangen."
e-mail: ignis {DOT} tenebrarum {AT} skynet {DOT} be
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From: joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP seems slow
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:36:46 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi!
I guess this is not the first time this is asked, but I could not find
any message to that.
I use SuSE 5.3 and KDE. With Kppp I can connect to my university just
fine, but my 144400 Modem seems a lot slower than under OS/2. Getting
my mail takes about twice as long. I have WMPPP running during my
online time (updated every second) and it jumps from about 1400 b/sec to
0 to 1400 back and forth. When using the amount of received and sent
data and the online time I arrive at about 800 b/sec transfer speed,
which confirms my feeling that things go slow.
Under OS/2 I also get peeks of 3500 b/s when transferring mail (or other
non-compressed data). No such thing under Kppp and Linux.
I have the modemspeed set to 56000 because that is the maximum it can
get too in effective transmission with compression (V42 I think).
What's wrong?
Thanks in advance
Bye
Thorsten
PS Please reply via e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Calvin)
Subject: Re: dns setup problem
Date: 17 Feb 1999 17:22:48 GMT
Find the DNS howto, it has the format for named.conf.
Andrei Osin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: So where can I get the new named.conf format ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Fried)
Subject: Inito 9100A SCSI CARD COMPILING PROBLEMS
Date: 18 Feb 1999 01:47:48 GMT
I have successfully compiled a new kernel with the Inito drivers
installed. My card is connected to a Syjet. At boot up all the
Inito drivers come up including my Syjet.
However when I start xwindows the system crashes. This does not
happen on the other kernel.
I am using Red Hat 5.1 with kernel 2.0.34 on a 300mhz machinge
with a 19 inch monitor.
Does anyone have any suggestions and/or solutions??
Thanx in advance
P.S. I have already contacted Initio and they have been of very
little help. They told me that there was something wrong with my
Xconfiguration but thats not the problem because xwindows works
fine with the other kernel minus the Inito drivers. The intio drivers
have to be doing something to cause this problem.
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:20:23 +1030
From: Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: SMC Ethernet cards
David Luksic wrote:
> I don't know about theese particular cards, but I have two Compex RL2000 PNP
> cards. They have EPROM chips. If cards are new (from the store, like yours)
> their EPROM (ROM) is empty. I had to write information to EPROM using a
> program I got on the diskette. I did that in DOS.
The empty ROM socket exists to accept a diskless boot ROM.
--
Glen Turner Network Specialist
Tel: (08) 8303 3936 Information Technology Services
Fax: (08) 8303 4400 The University of Adelaide 5005
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] South Australia
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:49:15 +0100
From: Michiel Denie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POP3 access through IP Masquerade
Adam Armstrong wrote:
>
> I set up Linux Servers with IP Masqerade and Squid.
>
> I have a customer with an Exchange Server behind the Linux Machine. I set
> stickyhost and mailhub on sendmail to send all incoming SMTP mail to the
> Exchange Server.
>
> How can I allow external users to access their POP3 account on the Exchange
> server through the Linux Machine from the Internet? Is it a IPFWADM command
> to open up a port?
>
> I cannot redirect the mailbox from MS Exchange server back to the Linux box
> as the attachments get deleted.
Solving that and running your POP services off the Linux machine
might be the better solution but if you want to do the above
instead, roughly what you'll need to do is:
1) Configure your firewall's incoming and forwarding rules with
ipfwadm to accept traffic from all the IP addresses your remote
users will be using, or just from everywhere if you don't know,
to TCP port 110. You'll need to disable the Linux machine's own
POP server if you want to have the Exchange server on the normal
POP port 110.
2) Configure your firewall to redirect traffic that arrives on
the POP port to your internal Exchange Server. There are various
ways to accomplish this, many people use ipautofw:
http://www.tor.shaw.wave.ca/~ambrose/ipautofw.tar.gz
or redir, which only does TCP not UDP:
http://www.tor.shaw.wave.ca/~ambrose/redir_0.7.orig.tar.gz
Use a command like
ipautofw -A -r tcp 110 110 -h x.x.x.x
where xxx is the IP address of the Exchange server.
With redir you could put your POP server on a high port
(ipautofw with -p might also work it for you) like so
redir x.x.x.x 5432 110
if you can think of a use for that..
You can test by telnetting (from the outside) to the port you're
using on your firewall, you should see a reply from the Exchange
server.
>
> Adam Armstrong
> BES Infomation Technology
> Brisbane, Australia
Michiel Denie!
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From: Barry O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mail client for Linux
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:47:18 GMT
Buck wrote:
>
>
> He said multiple pop3 accounts. That leaves Netscape out. Besides, why
> stick with Windows-like programs if you're going to run a Unix-like OS?
Because it works?
regards,
Barry
--
Linux Redhat 5.2. BeOS R4.
Who needs Micro$lop?
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