Linux-Misc Digest #76, Volume #20 Wed, 5 May 99 22:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: I am on a quest... (Shimpei Yamashita)
Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? (Anthony D. Tribelli)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
Linux Problem - Hard Drive Crash? ("Matthew Western")
Boycott Intel on your own webpage (Intel No Privacy)
Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? (Shimpei Yamashita)
Re: slow telnet from Win95 to Red Hat 5.1 ("Paul Heneghan")
Shadow Passwords (KDE Screensavers need suid) (David Steuber)
Can't run ipfwadm commands from rc.firewall script??? ("Bill@Linux1")
PGP Plugin for Netscape (Al)
Re: swapon, util-linux 2.9r (Peter Samuelson)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Mike Coffin)
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage (Andrew Comech)
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage ("Bill Frisbee")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Craig Dowell)
Printer. (Nuno Donato)
Re: binary files under solaris and linux; perl unpack (Peter Benie)
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From: Shimpei Yamashita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.slackware.linux
Subject: Re: I am on a quest...
Date: 5 May 1999 22:08:35 +0100
Jeffery Cann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>for an X-windows email client for Linux. If my dream of the "perfect"
>email client could be written down, it would have the following
>features:
>
>- stable: never hangs, never blows up!
>- reliable: messages don't evaporate!
>- scalable: if I have 2000 messages saved, performance shouldn't drop.
>- graphical: what can I say, I am not into pine.
>- threaded: this seems to be a hard feature, not sure why.
>- minimal resources: bloatware sucks even with P2/350 (128 MB)
Sorry, such a beast does not exist on any platform as far as I know.
Take away "graphical" and mutt (with fetchmail as the POP back end)
would fulfill other fields rather nicely. Take away "minimal
resources" and you might look into exmh or a mail reader under
(X)Emacs. Take away "threaded" and "runs under Linux" and Eudora does
rather nicely, although you probably don't care much about that.
Take a look at exmh, but prepare to be disappointed. Other than that,
my advice is either to stick with existing, unsatisfactory GUI mail
readers or to grit your teeth and learn to use enough of mutt to get
by--until someone comes up with a killer graphical email application.
--
Shimpei Yamashita <http://www.submm.caltech.edu/%7Eshimpei/>
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.powerpc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli)
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:17:53 GMT
FM ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Just another related question. Do all macs have one
: mouse button or is it that it's so common that I've
: never encountered a mac with multiple mouse buttons.
You are correct, it's merely that the one button mouse is the most common.
Apple only makes one button mice and one of these mice is included with
every system.
: I'm quite used to 3-button Logitech mice that I
: find many 2-button mice very limiting and wonder if
: I could make use of multiple-button mice on a mac?
: If there are some available (which I assume), does
: the X windows (and window managers/desktop
: environments) make use of the extra buttons? How
: does it behave without the extra buttons?
Many, inlcuding Logitech, make 3rd. party mice for Mac. The buttons are
programmable under MacOS and Apple's Game libraries are supporting
multibutton mice natively. No word on if and when the OS will do so as
well.
Tony
--
==================
Tony Tribelli
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:16:48 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jerry Lynn Kreps
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wow, where did you find that philosophy? You certainly didn't derive it
> from working with propriatary software. Last September, for example,
> the IS dept where I work purchased Visual Fox Pro 6,
*** very sad story about a specific product experience snipped ***
I understand your frustration. My philosophy is not based on any
single experience. It's based on the average experience from the
average user.
Many in this group extrapolate their well founded feelings of
frustration at Microsoft and Bill Gates to the rest of the world. I
hate to burst your bubbles.
I am the "computer guy" to my and my wifes families as well as many
neigbors. They all think Windows has some stupid bugs, but is pretty
cool. They all _love_ the selection of consumer apps and games
available. They all rush out to buy the latest games and spend hours
fawning over them. They don't mind paying money to get the latest
software *today* rather than waiting until people feel like doing it
for free. My wife can't wait until she can get the next Office
release.
(I don't understand it, I'm not a PC user)
Free software is a *GOOD* thing. But it isn't the *ONLY* thing. As
long as our economic system is a captialist one, there will always be
propriatary software because that model can do things the free software
can't easily do.
You may not think that's a good idea, but the goodness of the idea
doesn't matter, only it's success. People are willing to pay money to
get some things that they can't get *now* for free. (Why do people
rent a movie when they could wait a year and see it free on TV?)
You may think I'm nuts, but come back in twenty years. Free software
will be widely used, but there will still be hundreds of billions of
dollars spent on propriatary software.
Oh well.....
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Reply-To: "Matthew Western" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matthew Western" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Linux Problem - Hard Drive Crash?
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:46:02 +0930
I had my Linux box crash overnight with what appears to be a hard drive
problem. On trying to reboot I get a message:
Problem: block on freelist at 017dc790 isn't free.
Does anyone know if there is a way to fix this?
Thanks.
_________________________________________________________
Saulius Varnas - Research Scientist
Lens Design Group
SOLA International Holdings Research Centre (SIHRC)
19 Cooroora Crescent, Lonsdale, South Australia, 5160
E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_________________________________________________________
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Intel No Privacy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 21:07:13 GMT
Intel added software trackable individual serial numbers to
their Pentium III chips even though the public doens't want to make it
easier to people to track them online. Intel also added software
trackable individual serial numbers to some of their Pentium II
processors without letting the public know. I do not believe Intel is
tracking all of us and is this big evil company, but I do believe by
adding software trackable serial numbers to their processors makes is
so much easier for bad people to get your information.
Now if you are not worried about people getting ahold of your personal
information, at the end of every email you send add your social
securitiy and mothers maiden name. And every time you post your
opinions on a newsgroup, add your home phone number and address at the
bottom. I know what you are saying, no way would I do that. Well, it
isn't hard for someone to get any of that information on you if they
know some of the other info.
The worst part of all about Intel's software trackable serial
number built in to the Pentium III and some Pentium II chips is that
most people think that they can turn it off.
Intel makes you believe that it is safe to turn off this feature by
software. Before the chip was released a crack was already made that
could turn on and off your serial number without you knowing about it.
Anything that can be done with software can be undone with software.
The answer to this problem is to speak up and let Intel and other big
companies know how important your privacy is to you. Do not buy
another Intel processor until all of their chips are completely ID
free.
Visit these sites for more information and articles
http://www.fightdivx.com/intelboycott.htm
http://www.bigbrotherinside.com/
Use these banners on your website and link them to the above sites
http://www.fightdivx.com/intel_p3_banner.gif
http://www.bigbrotherinside.com/images/bbi-banner.jpg
Forward this message to everyone on your email lists
Get the message out that privacy is your #1 concern.
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From: Shimpei Yamashita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
Date: 5 May 1999 21:38:25 +0100
FM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>Steven G. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Like (essentially) all versions of Linux, the Mac Linux distributions run
>> X. They also run all the various window managers, desktop environments
>> like KDE, GNOME, etc.
>
>Just another related question. Do all macs have one
>mouse button or is it that it's so common that I've
>never encountered a mac with multiple mouse buttons.
All Apple mice come with one button. You can purchase third-party
mice with anywhere from two to four buttons, though.
>I'm quite used to 3-button Logitech mice that I
>find many 2-button mice very limiting and wonder if
>I could make use of multiple-button mice on a mac?
>If there are some available (which I assume), does
>the X windows (and window managers/desktop
>environments) make use of the extra buttons? How
>does it behave without the extra buttons?
In Mac OS, the manufacturer provides some utility that allows you to
map some combination of keyboard and mouse events to the extra buttons
on a per-application basis. I map control-click in Finder to the right
mouse button to get contextual menus to act like they do in Windows, for
example. You can even sort of simulate the X middle mouse button by
globally mapping command-V to the middle button, although I don't really
see the point.
In Linux (X in particular), the X server does take advantage of the
extra mouse buttons. If you have a single-button mouse, the middle and
right mouse buttons are simulated by pressing option-1 and option-2 on
the keyboard (IIRC; it might have been command instead of option).
Option-1 for paste is actually a pretty useful binding, since it
allows you to paste without reaching for the mouse; I often used it in
preference to the middle mouse button, even though I do have a three-
button mouse for my Mac.
--
Shimpei Yamashita <http://www.submm.caltech.edu/%7Eshimpei/>
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From: "Paul Heneghan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: slow telnet from Win95 to Red Hat 5.1
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 00:41:07 +0100
This sounds like a name resolution problem. My solution to this problem was
to configure DNS properly. Look in resolv.conf or alternatively use a hosts
file.
--
Paul Heneghan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Holmes wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>When telnet is launched it
>sometimes takes up to a minute
>to get the login prompt. At other times it only takes a couple of
>seconds. Users can log in fine once
>the finally get a prompt. Any suggestions where to start looking? The
>/etc/hosts , /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny are all empty.
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Shadow Passwords (KDE Screensavers need suid)
Date: 05 May 1999 16:59:10 -0400
Message from KDE:
Your system uses shadow passwords!
Please contact your system administrator.
Tell him, that you need suid for the screensavers!
I am my own system administrator. What the hell do I do? I know
there is a simple command to fix this, but I can't remember what it
is. I haven't been able to find it through the documentation
(apropos, whatis, etc).
--
David Steuber | s/trashcan/david/ if you wish to reply by mail
Resisting temptation is easier when you think you'll probably get
another chance later on.
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From: "Bill@Linux1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Can't run ipfwadm commands from rc.firewall script???
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:40:58 -0500
I took the sample script for IP masquerading and saved it as rc.firewall.
In my rc.local script, I call it. It is executing, as verified by "echo"
commands placed in various parts of the scripts.
However, when the script runs, masquerading doesn't work! If I enter the
commands separately from the command line, it works perfectly.
Any ideas on why? permissions are 700
thanks in advance
Bill Weaks
remove the onayamspay from my email address to respond
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From: Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PGP Plugin for Netscape
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:41:08 +0000
Is there a PGP plug in for net scape?
Thanks
Al
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: swapon, util-linux 2.9r
Date: 5 May 1999 16:59:23 -0500
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> OK, silly me. Thanks also to the others who said the same. Didn't
> realize you could do that for non-mounted devices.
Mounted or non-mounted doesn't have anything to do with it; nor does
the fact that it's a device file. Basically you are using `chmod' on a
file in your root filesystem, which *is* mounted.
--
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>
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From: Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 05 May 1999 16:48:44 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
> But as of today, it looks like the `foot in the door' that free
> software has represented so far is pushing the doorly slowly open
> again. Wide open.
I hope so, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. History is
littered with semi-utoptian communities that worked pretty well for a
generation or so, but then fizzled out. If you want to know about the
problems the free software movement will have to overcome over the
next decades, read about the rise and fall of the Kibutz movement.
-mike
(not speaking for my employer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 May 1999 21:22:53 -0500
On Wed, 5 May 1999 20:04:58 -0400, Bill Frisbee wrote:
>Get the hell out of here, go use your AMD and leave those of us who are
>happy with our Pentium III (dual even) alone.
>
>
>Bill F.
Bill F. Proud Owner of Pentium III Dual Even,
why would not _you_ get the F. out of here?
Regards,
a.
--
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
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From: "Bill Frisbee" <bfrisbee*NoSpam*@*NoSpam*webxi.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:04:58 -0400
Intel No Privacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Intel added software trackable individual serial numbers to
> their Pentium III chips even though the public doens't want to make it
> easier to people to track them online. Intel also added software
> trackable individual serial numbers to some of their Pentium II
> processors without letting the public know. I do not believe Intel is
> tracking all of us and is this big evil company, but I do believe by
> adding software trackable serial numbers to their processors makes is
> so much easier for bad people to get your information.
> Now if you are not worried about people getting ahold of your personal
> information, at the end of every email you send add your social
> securitiy and mothers maiden name. And every time you post your
> opinions on a newsgroup, add your home phone number and address at the
> bottom. I know what you are saying, no way would I do that. Well, it
> isn't hard for someone to get any of that information on you if they
> know some of the other info.
>
> The worst part of all about Intel's software trackable serial
> number built in to the Pentium III and some Pentium II chips is that
> most people think that they can turn it off.
> Intel makes you believe that it is safe to turn off this feature by
> software. Before the chip was released a crack was already made that
> could turn on and off your serial number without you knowing about it.
> Anything that can be done with software can be undone with software.
> The answer to this problem is to speak up and let Intel and other big
> companies know how important your privacy is to you. Do not buy
> another Intel processor until all of their chips are completely ID
> free.
>
>
> Visit these sites for more information and articles
> http://www.fightdivx.com/intelboycott.htm
> http://www.bigbrotherinside.com/
>
> Use these banners on your website and link them to the above sites
> http://www.fightdivx.com/intel_p3_banner.gif
> http://www.bigbrotherinside.com/images/bbi-banner.jpg
>
>
> Forward this message to everyone on your email lists
> Get the message out that privacy is your #1 concern.
>
Get the hell out of here, go use your AMD and leave those of us who are
happy with our Pentium III (dual even) alone.
Bill F.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Dowell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 6 May 1999 01:24:30 GMT
Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I'm not referring to some ideal model. I was commenting on how a
>>reasonably free market has worked well for us in the U.S; much better
>>than other economic systems. I was making the point that in "markets"
>>where the government is more involved (public schools, defense, etc.)
>>the situation degrades my many measures. In gray areas, where the
>
>On the contrary; the government's big-money development has created
>considerable benefits. The US has near-universal literacy, for example;
>you wouldn't have that (and hence wouldn't have a modern industrial
>economy, much less be moving into the information age) without public
>schools and public universities.
I never said there were no benefits to having a government, now did I?
I also never said that there should be no public schools and public
universities. What I said is that the more the government gets involved
in something, the more it tends to mess it up. This is because the
goal is to make a majority of the people happy enough to perpetuate the
government, not to do the job in the optimal way.
>Defense research initiatives have certainly paid good value when you look
>at their spin-offs, such as the internet, notwithstanding the immense
>amount of money poured into primary research. March's IEEE Computer
>magazine goes into a brief treatment of research models: basically, you
>can have cheap or you can have fast research, but you can't have both. The
>military-industrial complex chose fast. You are where you are because the
>military-industrial complex chose fast.
Yes, the government shovels money into defense research. Some of it is
good, some of it is worthless. I believe IBM does a consistently better
job of it than the government, though.
>Not to mention that the vast amount of grant money firehosed into the
>academy has revolutionized its existence; publish or perish has had some
>very good effects as well as bad ones.
I'm not quite sure why you're off on this tangent.
>>government insinuates itself by varying degrees of regulation, the
>>situation seems worse the more deeply involved the government gets.
>
>Easy to say from within the cocoon of a highly regulated (and highly
>successful) society. Less may be better than more (or more better than
>less, depending on the situation), but your argument, taken to its logical
>conclusion, would tend to favour none. Not that there aren't many
>countries with little if any governmental interference. They're just not
>very nice places to live, and the residents tend to have short and unhappy
>lives.
Actually, my argument is that the way it works in the US is pretty good.
It screws up now and then, and has its cycles, but we're doing well. We
need to keep government from creeping its way in any more. It's pretty
obvious that governments screw up things when they try and run businesses.
We need governments to keep monopolies in check, though. We need some
social democracy, but not socialism. Please don't try this "take it to
its logical conclusion crap" on me. It's not logical, it's a strawman.
>This reminds me of a physician quoted in the Globe and Mail, talking about
>the new grassroots opposition to mandatory vaccination. He said that
>people are opposing vaccination because they've never really seen what
>vaccination prevents; mandatory vaccination has reduced the incidence of
>many formerly common childhood diseases to near zero. I'm sure you can
>draw the parallel yourself if you care to.
Ah. The strawman rebuttal is complete. You do realize that you took what
I said, made an unwarranted assumption, extended that assumption into absurd
territory, and then ridiculed the strawman you constructed?
*yawn*
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From: Nuno Donato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Printer.
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 16:32:24 +0100
Can anyone tell me step by step how to configure my printer in my RedHat
5.2 OS.
I have tried anything but when I choose the print command in any
program, nothing happens.
Help me.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Benie)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: binary files under solaris and linux; perl unpack
Date: 5 May 1999 23:48:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> ($ind, $ad1, $ad2, $dig) = unpack("lsss", $record);
> [snip]
>The above code unpacks the short integers correctly under Linux but
>gives screwy output under solaris.
Almost certainly, you'll find that Solaris_x86 gives correct answers
and Sparc-Linux does not. Try using "Vv3" as the template instead.
Peter
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