Linux-Misc Digest #76, Volume #24 Sat, 8 Apr 00 09:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Unable to change root password. ("Peter T. Breuer")
Open Source Software Development ("Rene")
Re: Proxy software for Linux ('Dungeon' Dave)
Re: Unable to change root password. (Ben Walker)
Re: Unable to change root password. ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Visio (Microsoft vs. Unix) (Raymond N Shwake)
Re: Converting Files From Win 98 to Linux ("oliver austin")
Re: Soundcard 'sharing' possible? ("Catilina")
ANSI art under Linux consoles ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: vim and 'c' on exit (Matthew Haley)
Re: News Readers for Linux (James Stevenson)
Re: Does anybody know a gzip-compressor in hardware ? (Jonathan Stowe)
Re: MySQL question (Glitch)
Re: how to mount a second hard drive ("Deterrant")
Re: Can linux act as apps server? (Glitch)
Re: Cannot log in via telnet (Glitch)
Cryptic startup error (missing init) ("Deterrant")
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unable to change root password.
Date: 8 Apr 2000 09:59:58 GMT
Nosediver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: And yeah, /var/log/messages reported nothing unusual; just that root had
: changed password and that it was successful.
: Well, then what is wrong?
Who knows? Look at your /etc/passwd file and find out what changed. If
nothing, then you know that "passwd" is what's wrong. Get yourself a
new one.
At worst you can create a new user with the password you want, then
transfer the passwd field to root in /etc/passwd.
Peter
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Reply-To: "Rene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Rene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Open Source Software Development
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 10:08:33 GMT
Dear All,
**** REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ****
SUMMARY: A general dredging exercise to look for any research
documents/sites etc. that examine, even in remotely related way, Open Source
Software Development. This includes, but is not limited to, how OSSD works,
its outcomes and performance. Preferrably anything to do with
management/business/strategy. Would appreciate it if people responded with
any information they have even if research is currently being conducted.
*********************************
I am about to embark on a PhD and have been looking at a topic related to
Open Source Software Development. I'll be studying at the Queensland
University of Technology (QUT). In particular I am interested in Open
Source Software Development (OSSD) as a new type of Business Strategy. I am
at the very earlier stages of formulating my thoughts and determining
possible approaches. To this end I would like to:
1. Use Organizational Strategy and Organizational Management Literature to
develop a model of Open Source Software Development. I have looked at and
read a few different documents (eg. ESR). I would like to apply current
thinking on organizational strategy to develop hypotheses about OSSD...
without getting too broad. There appear to be a whole range of issues from
leadership through to economics.
Researchers in the management field have been slow to look into Open Source
but I have managed to convince my supervisors (and still need to do some
more convincing in general) that this is a promising new area of research.
At this stage the field is wide open.
2. Test the model. I have been looking at ways to sample, and get data from
projects and businesses. Resources such as sourceforge and other "project
houses" as well as linux distributions might be starting points for
collecting quantitative date through case studies and questionnaires. Any
thoughts on this? Perhaps a mix of both would be an initial starting point
before focussing on one particular set of issues with one sample.
I have noticed that redhat has the redhat centre for open source
(http://www.redhat.com/apps/community/rhcos.html), which is going to be
covering the area of Open Source research as well. This also looks be in the
formative stages. The general idea is to broaden the application of Open
Source to new industries, if that is possible. I am more inclined to take on
the task of applying my particular fields of interest, namely,
organizational strategy and open source, to develop a solid testable model,
before moving the other issues.
3. Define a set of factors that predict project/organizational success. Once
the model has been tested the outcomes would hopefully be a set of factors
that predict successful Open Source projects or the creation of a typology
of Open Source projects.
More adventurous ideas would be to compare open source vs. other approaches
to software development. While I would like this idea I have some issues
with sampling and getting access to data. There would definitely be the
scope to examine a set of strategic factors that distinguish among the
approaches to software development. I am not totally sold on any particular
question as yet, apart from the general idea outlined above, so I am open to
suggestions or thoughts.
At this stage I am looking for any resources people might know of that could
be of relevance. In particular I am after academic research (PhD Theses,
research in progress, conference papers, discussions etc) that examines OSSD
or the open source movement. I currently have or know of the following mixed
bag of links and resources (in no particular order - brain dump).
1. Book: "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" - ESR - also ESR's website
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/
2. Website - cluetrain - framework, mindset, approach
3. Website - sourceforge - project housing, there are others see e.g.
redhat, linuxstart etc
4. Website - slashdot - news, info, links
5. Websites - linsider - lists distros and companies
6. Book - "Rapid Development: Taming Wild Software Schedules", Steve
McConnell
7. Book - "Secrets of Software Success: Management Insights from 100
Software
Firms Around the World" - Detlev J. Hoch ; Cyriac R. Roeding ; Gert Purkert
; Sandro K. Lindner
8. Book - "Open Sources: Voices from the Open Source Revolution"
9. Article - A Quantitative Profile of a Community of Open Source Linux
Developers - Bert J Dempsey, Debra Weiss, Paul Jones, and Jane Greenberg -
http://metalab.unc.edu/osrt/develpro.html
10. Documents - Halloween documents
11. Website - Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org/
12. Article - "The Simple economics of opensource" - Lerner and Tirole
13. Website - http://www.opensource.org/ - definitions.history, esp, links
14. Website - http://www.fsf.org/
A lot of these are background materials but have some snippets of relevance
to the topic of a model and research data. Any help or tips would be greatly
appreciated. I intend to establish a website for my PhD in the spirit of
open source and will present any information I find. Hopefully I can also
set up some form of discussion and bugzilla for my PhD document so that
people can actively make comments. Any companies or projects that would be
interested in being involved or would like to open up discussions would also
be warmly received.
Cheers
Rene Kienzle
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Soon to be PhD student
PS Many thanks to Agthorr and Scooby from Slashnet IRC, and nonpareil from
#intp, superchat, for their assistance.
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From: 'Dungeon' Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Proxy software for Linux
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:48:11 +0100
Reply-To: 'Dungeon' Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Zielinski <scottz@gr
eitzerlocks.com> writes
>Does anyone know of proxy software for Linux?
squid. Comes free with Linux.
> i.e., If I have my Linux box
>connected to a cable modem, and acting as the gateway, what do I need
>to
>have all other computers that are on the same network as the Linux box
>share
>the internet connection?
A default gateway set up on each other computer pointing to the
Linux box, and the Linux box set to dial up upon receiving a routed
request ought to do it.
However, if you avoid the gateway and other IP config stuff and just
want to specify a proxy server for surfing, then squid's yer man. It
will also filter out unwanted sites.
For firewalling, use IPchains. Comes free with Linux, and there's
plenty of expertise around.
>
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HUGE sig block there, man!
>
>
--
Linux: love it or loathe it, it's here to stay!!
(I need a service pack for my tagline)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Walker)
Subject: Re: Unable to change root password.
Date: 8 Apr 2000 04:22:37 -0600
I have noticed that if you su to root and then change the password, it
really doesn't change. The only way to change the root password is to login
as root directly on the console. It probably only allows root to change it's
password from a secure terminal, i.e, the console.
If this doesn't work, you can create a dummy user, set the password to what
you want root's password to be, copy the encrypted password to root's
entry, and then delete the dummy user. I have done this when I needed to
change root's password on a remote machine.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Nosediver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hi.
>
>I am unable to change my root password. Whatever I do, it still keeps the
>old password. Could someone please help?
>
>
>I did this:
>
>I invoked 'passwd', typed in the new password twice and it reported
>"Password Changed".
>
>Now, when I exited root and tried to login again, I couldn't use the new
>password. It still understood only the old one!
>
>Suspecting that the minimum period when you can't change password has not
>yet expired, I did this:
>
># passwd -n 0 root
>
>And repeated the above procedure. No, it did not help either. Permissions
>of the /etc/passwd are rw-r--r--. I suppose this is the way it should be,
>right?
>
>And yeah, /var/log/messages reported nothing unusual; just that root had
>changed password and that it was successful.
>
>Well, then what is wrong?
>
>Rather perplexed,
>-- Su.
>
>******************************************************************************
>Sujatha Natraj Computer Engineering, NUS, Singapore.
> SMTP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> HTTP http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~sujathan [UPDATED!]
>******************************************************************************
>
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unable to change root password.
Date: 8 Apr 2000 10:57:11 GMT
Ben Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have noticed that if you su to root and then change the password, it
: really doesn't change. The only way to change the root password is to login
: as root directly on the console. It probably only allows root to change it's
It changes just fine. Read the man page for passwd. or send in a bug
report!
passwd changes passwords for user and group accounts. A
normal user may only change the password for their own
account, the super user may change the password for any
account. The administrator of a group may change the
Peter
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raymond N Shwake)
Subject: Re: Visio (Microsoft vs. Unix)
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 03:32:05 GMT
David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Richard Caley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>' Eg. if they think MS is in a bad monopoly position, the government
>' shouldn't be buying so much from them. Imagine what a US govt. and EU
>' decision to multi-source all software purchases would do. If every
>' government office had to operate to a rule which said `no more than
>' 1/3 of desktop systems running an OS from any one supplier', imagine
>' what that would do to the market.
>Come to think of it, isn't the US Gov required by law to have multiple
>vendors? Isn't the DOD? If so, then perhaps there is legal recourse
>to force the gov to obey the law.
In many cases you'll indeed find multiple vendors, all hawking the
same product (Windows). The Defense Dept. is moving heavy into Windows NT as
a "standard". There was in fact a major contract dispute several years ago
in which the Coast Guard accepted a proposal for a Windows NT solution. I
don't remember if Softway Systems OpenNT was part of the package but the
court found there was enough POSIX to meet the specs. The Coast Guard, of
course, proceeded to run Windows 32 applications.
"Standards" have not kept Civilian agencies from adopting sole-source
solutions. The IRS, for example, has standardized on Windows NT for workgroup
services (Novell isn't sanctioned), Windows NT on the desktop, MS Office
(Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Access) and Front Page. Visio and OpenNT were
also standards in their categories; they both belong to Microsoft now.
I'd be curious what standards the Dept. of Justice has in place.
>As another poster pointed out, we have POSIX for a reason. The gov
>should be required to use POSIX compliant systems.
POSIX functionality can be found on any number of platforms now,
including OS/390, VMS, AS/400 and even Windows. If it makes you feel good,
specify Unix 95/98 compliance, But if your user community really wants to
do business as usual (i.e. run Windows and Office) some vendor will offer
Windows NT/2000 and Interix OpenNT
>Imagine the cost savings if the entire gov used free software (beer
>and liberty, you can't have a better combo!!!). I'm sure the FSF
>could use a million bucks donation from the fed.
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From: "oliver austin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Converting Files From Win 98 to Linux
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:01:03 +0100
If you can access your MS-DOS partition through linux then you'll be able to
get at the files easily.
I assume your dos partion is formated VFAT (well FAT 32) and Linux can read
these partitions.
If not it takes a little setting up but is very easy.
Oliver
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8cmufl$7fo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Michael Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Where can I get a program to convert stuff I download in windows to
Linux.
> : I have a "winmodem" and can't aford at the time a "Real" Modem.
>
> No conversion is required. A file is a file.
>
>
> Peter
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From: "Catilina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Soundcard 'sharing' possible?
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 14:08:04 +0200
> Is there a way to share my soundcard, so more than 1 program can use it at
> the same time?
I've found out that in Windows this is done by directsound, which mixes
everything together. This is what in the alsa-docs is written about it:
3.10 Does ALSA support 'Software Mixing'?
Software mixing is not currently done by ALSA, and will probably never be
done by the driver itself. The ALSA developers may support a mixing daemon
that
may be accessed via the ALSA API library, but nothing is planned at this
time.
Any ideas if there is such a mixing application out there? BTW, I'm not
using alsa, since the cm8738 is not yet supported (no driver has been
written yet according to www.alsa-project.org/~goemon/ )
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ANSI art under Linux consoles
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 12:31:16 GMT
Hi!
I'd like to know if there is a collection of ANSI art for Linux
consoles. If so, where can I find it in the internet? Also, what is the
range of ASCII characters that Linux can safely display on a terminal?
I've noticed that some of the ANSI art I made under a DOS ANSI editor
became garbled when displayed under a Linux console.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Haley)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: vim and 'c' on exit
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 12:40:44 GMT
On Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:01:44 +1000,
Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This seems to be a problem only with the gnome terminal.
I get the same thing in the KDE konsole.
--
Petition for Linux Drivers -> http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
slrn -> http://www.slrn.org
Xnews (Win32) -> http://xnews.3dnews.net
Xnews Installer (Win32) -> http://xnews.webhop.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Stevenson)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: News Readers for Linux
Date: 7 Apr 2000 19:24:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
my vote is on slrn i like the scoring of articals
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 18:00:24 GMT, eyez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>quoting <James Hammerton>:
>>"Scott Zielinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Anyone know of a good news reader for Linux?
>>
>>I use gnus. It takes a bit of time to learn but is very powerful and
>>efficient.
>
>I use slrn. I used to use pine, but pine doesn't sort by threads. slrn is a
>nice newsreader, and you can use any editor you'd like to use to compose
>messages, and it's highly configurable. but, there's many others. My
>suggestion is to try al of them taht you can find... Check on
>freshmeat.net in their news sections. Or, if you're lucky enough to be usin
>debian, check dselect under 'news' and pull 'em off the net with apt.
>
>>
>>James
>>
>>--
>>James Hammerton, Department of Computer Science, University College Dublin
>> WWW Pages: http://www.cs.ucd.ie/staff/jhammerton/
>> http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~james
>
>
>--
>Rando Christensen
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
><perception is reality>
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7:20pm up 43 days, 2:50, 5 users, load average: 1.04, 0.72, 0.57
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From: Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.compression,de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware,comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Does anybody know a gzip-compressor in hardware ?
Date: 8 Apr 2000 13:09:22 +0100
Reply-To: Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In comp.lang.perl.misc Andreas Vierengel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> my company's business relies heavily on the gzip compression algorithm.
> I was thinking about a PCI-card, with a small driver for let's say:
> linux, which does only gzip, but really fast !! Does anybody know a
> company or somebody who sells or can develop such a thing ? However it
> must be x-times faster than today's top pentium !
Sorry, I fail to see what this has to do with Perl.
If you want to do compression in a Perl program use Compress::ZLib
/J\
--
Jonathan Stowe
http://www.gellyfish.com
http://www.tackleway.co.uk
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Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 09:02:25 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MySQL question
sounds like you should buy a book on it instead of using it blindly
what do you think?
"Patrick M. Geahan" wrote:
>
> I've managed to forget the password for the root account to mySQL on my
> Linux box. SInce I don't have much on there yet, I'm planning to simply
> wipe the databases I've already created and start a fresh install.
>
> The problem is, I can't seem to find where MySQL stores database files.
> Does anyone know where these are kept and what they're called? I'm using
> 3.22.32 on RH6.1. Thanks for your help.
>
> --
>
> -------Patrick M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:3784715----------
> Quote of the Week: "It looked just like Schindler's List out there!" -
> lady on WGN TV News describing a house explosion.
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From: "Deterrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: how to mount a second hard drive
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 08:59:06 -0400
alright, I got it. Thanks, everyone.
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Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 09:05:45 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can linux act as apps server?
if MSSQL needs files on the server installed then i doubt it will work
with linux since linux cant run WIndows files
samba lets you network different computing platforms from linux to the
MS world
Sim Grant wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Can linux act as apps server let say for M$SQL 7 or something
> ? Else what is the main advantage for Samba ?
>
> Thanks
> Falcon
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Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 09:06:54 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot log in via telnet
login as root and work on the problem once you are in the system
Buck Turgidson wrote:
>
> Am getting the following message logging on tonight after powering down last
> night. Any idea as to what is causing this, and how I can rectify it? I
> can access it from the console as root, but that is the only user I can use.
>
> Red Hat Linux release 6.1 (Cartman)
> Kernel 2.2.12-20 on an i586
> login: jerry
> Password:
> The system is going down on Wed Apr 5 19:51:03 2000
>
> Login incorrect
>
> login:
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From: "Deterrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cryptic startup error (missing init)
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:02:05 -0400
For no apparent reason, whenever I now start up my Linux box, I get the
error message
"Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel"
I don't know what could have inspired this, but I also have no idea how to
fix it. I don't have any boot disks or the like, except for the one that
installs my version of Caldera OpenLinux 2.3. After the message appears, the
only apparent thing that I can do is restart with CTRL+ALT+DEL, which gets
me back in the same place.
I'm willing to reinstall the operating system, but I'd like that as a last
resort.
--
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-Dan Golden
ICQ# 7517871
"I'd trade it all for just a little more"
-Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10]
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