Linux-Misc Digest #76, Volume #27                Sat, 10 Feb 01 14:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: KDE vs FVWM - a quick question (Lee Webb)
  Re: KDE vs FVWM - a quick question (Kenneth Mokkelbost)
  Re: Problem with a shared library. (Michael Heiming)
  Re: cant connect to sourceforge (Dirk Groeneveld)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour. (Harry Putnam)
  Re: Optimize for Speed? (Gertjan Vinkesteyn)
  Re: cant connect to sourceforge ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Gnorpm and rpm 4 ("Anurodh Pokharel")
  Re: pktcdvd (Noah Roberts)
  network printer ("nico")
  help: setting up ips for dialing in (David. E. Goble)
  Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour. (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (The Ghost In The Machine)
  gnome workspace-next key? (brandon chubb)
  rcmd (Steve Connet)
  Re: WEb Cam for Newbi ("Bob")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Webb)
Subject: Re: KDE vs FVWM - a quick question
Date: 10 Feb 2001 16:11:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 23:36:00 -0500, Glitch wrote:
>Nick wrote:
>
>> However, one thing KDE lacks that the other variations on FVWMx have, is
>> a X-Messages terminal screen. I find this very handy as when a program
>> fails to run, you can see at once what the problem is. Under KDE if a
>> program fails to run, I have to exit the GUI to see what the problem
>> was.
>> 
>> Can X-Messages (or something similar) be run under KDE? If so, how?
>
>if you hit ALT+Fx (x corresponding to the terminal number you used to 
>launch Xwindows) you can return to the terminal and 'exit' Xwindows. Hit 
>ALT+F7 to get back to Xwindows.  You can also hit any ALT+Fx key 
>sequence to login using another console, if u don't want to open an 
>actual terminal window.

Perhaps it's just a SuSe thing, but shouldn't that read CTRL+ALT+Fx for
console switching?

Lee.

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From: Kenneth Mokkelbost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE vs FVWM - a quick question
Date: 10 Feb 2001 17:23:44 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Webb) writes:

> On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 23:36:00 -0500, Glitch wrote:
> >Nick wrote:
> >
> >> However, one thing KDE lacks that the other variations on FVWMx have, is
> >> a X-Messages terminal screen. I find this very handy as when a program
> >> fails to run, you can see at once what the problem is. Under KDE if a
> >> program fails to run, I have to exit the GUI to see what the problem
> >> was.
> >> 
> >> Can X-Messages (or something similar) be run under KDE? If so, how?
> >
> >if you hit ALT+Fx (x corresponding to the terminal number you used to 
> >launch Xwindows) you can return to the terminal and 'exit' Xwindows. Hit 
> >ALT+F7 to get back to Xwindows.  You can also hit any ALT+Fx key 
> >sequence to login using another console, if u don't want to open an 
> >actual terminal window.
> 
> Perhaps it's just a SuSe thing, but shouldn't that read CTRL+ALT+Fx for
> console switching?
> 
> Lee.

CTRL+ALT+Fx when in X, but you can use ALT+Fx when you are in console.

Kenneth

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Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:23:08 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with a shared library.

Jean-David Beyer wrote:

> Oliver Wiegand wrote:
> >
> > Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> > >
> > > When I try to download a .tsv file with Netscape (that will be imported
> > > by Applixware), I get the following message from Netscape:
> > >
> > > Gtk WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module-path:
> > > libmetal.so
> > >
> > > This library definately exists:
> > >
> > > valinux:root[/usr/lib]# ls -l /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so
> > > -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        40482 Aug  1  2000
> > > /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so
> > > valinux:root[/usr/lib]# file /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so
> > > /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object,
> > > Intel 80386, version 1, not stripped
> > > valinux:root[/usr/lib]#
> > >
> > > I have recently run depmod -a, but that does not seem to help, because
> > > depmod does not look in /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines unless I add the
> > > line
> > >
> > > path=/usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines to /etc/conf.modules. If I do that, it
> > > gets all bent out of shape because some of the other files in that
> > > directory are not .so files. I tried putting a symbolic link to the
> > > required module in /usr/lib and running depmod again. That does not hurt
> > > anything, as far as I can tell, but it does not solve the problem.
> > >
> > > What next?
> > >
> >
> > depmod looks for dependencies of kernel modules, not for your libraries.
> > Gtk-modules are no kernel modules,so forget about depmod.
>
> I realize that now. I was desparate and hoping that would have something
> to do with the problem. I now realize it was a blind alley.
>
> > ldconfig updates /etc/ld.so.cache, where your libraries are
> > "registered".
>
> But, obviously, that has nothing to do with the problem either, since
> putting /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines into /etc/ld.so.conf and rerunning
> ldconfig -v does not help either.
>
> So what do I do so that Netscape does not complain anymore?
> I.e., HOW DO I GET /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines INTO THE module_path THAT
> Netscape IS COMPLAINING ABOUT?
>
> --
>  .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
>  /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
> /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
> ^^-^^ 9:35am up 12 days, 18:03, 3 users, load average: 3.26, 3.20, 3.12

Hi,

perhaps something like

strings /opt/netscape/netscape |grep lib |less

could give some hint where this NS-crashicator wants to have this lib you
obviously have
on your system. You could try copy/symlink it then.

Good luck

Michael Heiming



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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cant connect to sourceforge
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:32:05 +0100

Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > KSSL initialize
> >> > SSL initialized
> >> > SSL about to connect
> >> > KSSL connect
> >> > KSSL connect FAILED
> >> Fair enough. Mind you, I have never heard of KSSL. Have they got a
> >> broken ssl implementation? Is it even ready?
> > I don't know, but I think they wouldn't ship it if it didn't work. Their
> They certainly would ship it if it didn't work, or even if it did! They
> might not even know it's in there.

You aren't exactly a fan of kde, are you? ;-)

> > website claims that konqueror fully supports SSL.
> That would be a matter of opinion.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me that it works with his 
konqueror....

> >> >> What happens when you try it with lynx or netscape?
> >> > I have neither of them installed.
> >> Then install them, and try them.
> > > I have never heard of lynx supporting SSL at all, so I don't see the
> > point.
> I believe the latest versions do, but I don't have the latest.

I just downloaded it, patched ssl into it, built it and it works.
My openssl seems to be correct.
 
> > Netscape is quite another problem, I tried building current Milestone
> > for
> > Just use a prebuilt binary.

I hate brebuilt binaries. I have compiled to whole system from scratch and 
will try to stick to it. 
Right now I'm downloading another konqueror version. After that, I'll try 
mozilla again. There's no point in downloading two packages the size of 
mozilla at once over a dialup line... :-(

> >> > something about my ssl.
> >> Perhaps you are running an incompatible or broken version.
> > I'm running the latest one. ssh (which uses openssl, doesn't it?) works
> > just fine...
> Not usually. Various ssh's and ssl's are sort of incompatible. I am
> staying at ssh 1.2.*, because 2.* is not somewhere where I want to be.

Don't start mixing up ssl and ssh. I know that ssh1 and ssh2 aren't quite 
compatible. (ssh2 offers a compatibility mode though).
I don't know about openssl. Do you think it might be worth trying an older 
version of openssl?

> > I rebuilt openssl, which changed nothing. I checked out ./configure
> > --help, but found nothing that seemed like changing it would make sense.
> Building anything against openssl is usally a pain. One usually gets to
> help configure unmix its brains.

I haven't had any serious problems so far. At least not with configure.
 
> >> That could be a killer under many circumstances. Usually inetd
> >> launches identd when it has to. Try and ensure that it can when it has
> >> to.
> > I can't try that right now, but i will tomorrow.

This is the day after tomorrow but I haven't done it. Sebastian Hans sais 
it works without it and lynx works without it, too, so i figure that's 
_not_ the problem.

> >> > The troubled PC is connected to an ethernet, it's ip is
> >> > 192.168.100.1. On
> >> That's not routable.  You know, that, I suppose.
> > You mean, SSL?
> No, that address.

It's not being routed, it's being masqueraded. Which works amazingly good.
 
> > So why does it work with IE5, even when I switch off the proxy?
> If you are using IE5 you are not on the same machine, and don't have
> the same (unroutable) IP address for a start.

When I'm using IE5, I _am_ on the same machine using the _same_ unroutable 
address.
 
Dirk

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 17:43:17 GMT

Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Steve Mading wrote:
> > 
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : Steve Mading wrote:
> > :>
> > :> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > :>
> > :> : A religeous person does not need to explain the origin of God (and he
> > :> : will freely admit that he can't).
> > :>
> > :> This whole line of arguing was originally coined ages ago NOT as its
> > :> own proof that atheism is correct, but merely as a counterproof to
> > :> the theists' proof that God is necessary as a first cause of the
> > :> universe.  The point is that adding God to the picture doesn't really
> > :> explain anything at all as to why there exists a universe.  And if
> > :> you would say that God+Universe is a better explanation than just
> > :> Universe by itself, then why not posit a metagod that created God?
> > :> Why not a Metametagod that created that one, and so on?  Wouldn't
> > :> the Metametagod explaination, by the same reasoning, be better
> > :> than just the God explanation?   In summary: You don't solve
> > :> the first cause problem by introducing an infinite recursion of
> > :> causes.  That's why the proof that God must exist because the
> > :> Universe needs a cause is bogus.  This argument, by itself, does
> > :> not prove that god doesn't exist, its purpose is merely to shoot
> > :> down to the theists's first cause argument, and show how that
> > :> isn't a good enough reason by itself to convince anyone.
> > :>
> > 
> > : "God" is, by definition, "the First Cause".
> > 
> > False.  If, for example, the Big Bang were proven to be the
> > first cause, I doubt that would count as "God" in anyone's
> > mind.
> 
> Before I reply to the rest of your argument, I would like you to
> explain to me how one goes about *proving* a first cause.
> 
> >       "first cause" is NOT the definition of God - there is
> > quite a bit more to it that that.  For one thing, "god" implies
> > some type of sentience.  "God" is a much more narrow term than
> > just the vague "whatever it is that happens to be the cause of
> > the universe, we'll call that God."  If you want to make "first
> > cause" be the sole definition of the word God, then you have to
> > stick with that consistently or else you engage in a false
> > equivocation fallacy the moment you talk of God being a thinking
> > entity.
> > 
> > I think it should be pretty clear, just to clarify a bit, that
> > the type of god that atheists don't believe in is the sentient
> > thinking creator type.  The word "God" has been applied to so
> > many different things in the past that it has become a very
> > sloppy, almost useless term for logical debates.
> > 
> It is indeed very difficult to debate logically about God, what with
> the transcendency and unknowable business and such, but that doesn't
> mean we cannot deduce certain aspects. The problem is that whatever
> definition is given, it can only (I would say "by definition")
> describe an aspect of God, never all of Him. So God is indeed the
> first cause, but not _only_ the first cause.
> 
> > : The term "Meta-God" is a
> > : contradictio in terminis.
> > 
> > Heh - not to a polytheist.  Consider the greek pantheon, where
> > some gods were offspring of others.
> > 
> Even contemporary Greeks considered their Gods part of a mythology,
> rather than a religeous system.

as far as i know, *contemporary* greeks are mostly orthodox
christians -- usually greek orthodox.

i assume you mean the ancient greeks.

> Keep in mind the intellectual problems
> the Greeks had with their gods, once they got a taste of philosophy.
> The evolution towards monotheism became quite apparent (Plato's
> Creator e.g.).

yes.  different greeks at different times believed different things.
the later ancient greeks like plato, from whom we have some writings,
seemed to be skeptical towards their gods.  however, i would guess
early greek culture might have taken them more seriously.

> But I was under the impression that one essential aspect of atheism
> was the WYSIWYG-principle: What You See (of the universe) Is What You
> Get; everything is knowable to man.

not quite.  first, athesists come in many flavors.  second, what you
see is what you see.  most poeple would not say "everything is
knowable to man."  the position is more like "we can know only what we
sense."

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour.
Date: 10 Feb 2001 09:21:17 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Gro�johann) writes:

> On Fri, 09 Feb 2001, Thaddeus L. Olczyk wrote:
> 
> > On 09 Feb 2001 20:04:45 +0100, in comp.emacs you wrote:
> > 
> >>On Fri, 09 Feb 2001, Thaddeus L. Olczyk wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Suppose you have an entry
> >>
> >>emacs.geometry: 3x4+10+20
> >>
> >>in your ~/.Xdefaults file.  Then "emacs" will use it, but
> >>"emacs-20.7" will not.
> >>
> > It's not in ~/.Xdefaults I already checked there.
> 
> The entry need not be in ~/.Xdefaults.  The X server searches in many
> places.  See the environment variables XUSERFILESEARCHPATH,
> XAPPLRESDIR, XFILESEARCHPATH, and possibly others.  (That's where
> `appres' gets the information from.)
> 
> `xrdb' reads from the server itself.  You can call `xrdb' to enter
> resources into the server from anywhere, I don't know of your setup.


I don't see anything under any of those listed:

 # env |grep 'X[A-Z]'
TEXINPUTS=/home/reader/.TeX

echo $XUSERFILESEARCHPATH
echo $XAPPLRESDIR
echo $XFILESEARCHPATH

Nothing here.

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From: Gertjan Vinkesteyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Optimize for Speed?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:58:07 +0100


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I use ctwm, why a Windows like interface?
ctwm is fast and small.
you can get it at http://www.freshmeat.net
--

Gertjan Vinkesteijn

email:          mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
homepage:  http://www.xs4all.nl/~gvink


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I use ctwm, why a Windows like interface?
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<br>you can get it at <A HREF="http://www.freshmeat.net">http://www.freshmeat.net</A>
<br>--
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cant connect to sourceforge
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:06:05 GMT

Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>> Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > KSSL connect FAILED
>> >> Fair enough. Mind you, I have never heard of KSSL. Have they got a
>> >> broken ssl implementation? Is it even ready?
>> > I don't know, but I think they wouldn't ship it if it didn't work. Their
>> They certainly would ship it if it didn't work, or even if it did! They
>> might not even know it's in there.

> You aren't exactly a fan of kde, are you? ;-)

I happen to use kde myself .. both 1.1. and 2.0.

>> > website claims that konqueror fully supports SSL.
>> That would be a matter of opinion.

> I'm still waiting for someone to tell me that it works with his 
> konqueror....

Yes it does. I just tried it against my own secure mail server using
an https URL. I have konquerer 1.9.8 under kde 2.0.1. It likely
came off the debian kde packages.

And under security in view, it even shows "Current connection is
secured with SSL", and gives the peer certificate.

>> > > I have never heard of lynx supporting SSL at all, so I don't see the
>> > point.
>> I believe the latest versions do, but I don't have the latest.

> I just downloaded it, patched ssl into it, built it and it works.
> My openssl seems to be correct.

OK .. 

>> > Netscape is quite another problem, I tried building current Milestone
>> > for
>> > Just use a prebuilt binary.

> I hate brebuilt binaries. I have compiled to whole system from scratch and 

Building netscape daily will cost you up to about 150MB of space. Maybe
more nowadays .. I haven't tried to keep up.

>> >> > something about my ssl.
>> >> Perhaps you are running an incompatible or broken version.
>> > I'm running the latest one. ssh (which uses openssl, doesn't it?) works
>> > just fine...
>> Not usually. Various ssh's and ssl's are sort of incompatible. I am
>> staying at ssh 1.2.*, because 2.* is not somewhere where I want to be.

> Don't start mixing up ssl and ssh. I know that ssh1 and ssh2 aren't quite 

*I* wasn't.

> compatible. (ssh2 offers a compatibility mode though).
> I don't know about openssl. Do you think it might be worth trying an older 
> version of openssl?

I am running openssl 0.9.6. I think I was on 0.9.5a (or b) before that.

>> >> That could be a killer under many circumstances. Usually inetd
>> >> launches identd when it has to. Try and ensure that it can when it has
>> >> to.
>> > I can't try that right now, but i will tomorrow.

> This is the day after tomorrow but I haven't done it. Sebastian Hans sais 
> it works without it and lynx works without it, too, so i figure that's 
> _not_ the problem.

> When I'm using IE5, I _am_ on the same machine using the _same_ unroutable 
> address.

Looks like you pinned it down to a problem with your build of
konqueror.

Peter

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From: "Anurodh Pokharel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gnorpm and rpm 4
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:07:09 -0500

This is strange..
has anyone else here had trouble getting gnorpm to work with rpm 4?
it appears that it does not work with version abouve rpm 3 but that is
mentioned nowhere. infact at rpm.org there a link going to gnorpm.
I am a bit puzzled. 
gnorpm worked fine as long as i had rpm 3 as soon as i installed 4, i get
an error saying

error in loading shared libraries:/usr/lib/librpm.so.0: undefined symbol
fdio 

my system is a PII with 32megs ram,Mandrake 7.1 with window maker. 

anurodh

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Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:08:09 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pktcdvd

Noah wrote:

> The directions say to use a command called pktsetup, but where to get it????
> It also mentions udf tools, but the udf site on sourceforge doesn't have
> any.

I found pktsetup.c but I can't get it to compile.  It wants a linux/packet.h
which doesn't exist.  I tried pktcdvd.h but it doesn't have the defines
needed.  Could someone please help me set this up?

Also, the directions use a scsi device as the arg to pktsetup.....but the site
says it works with ATAPI, what it doesn't say is wether I need to use the
ide-scsi emulation, which I am.

I would really like to get this working....I have waited a long time for direct
CD in linux, this is the soonest I could mess with trying to set it up.


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From: "nico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: network printer
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:15:05 GMT

Hi i am Nico.
One of my customers has bought a laser printer with the ethernet interface.
He asked to me if i can configure it as a network printer and i said yes.
I would like to ask if what i am thinking to do is right.
1) i edit /etc/hosts and i add the line with the printer's ip number and the
name i choosed.
2) i run printtool and choose remote printer
3}I digit the name of the que (for example pr1) and for the hostname i put
the name i choosed in /etc/hosts.
Is that enought and is right ???
thanks for the help
Nico




--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

E PENSARE CHE TI HO FATTO STUDIARE A DETROIT !!!!
( JONNY STECCHINO )





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From: goble@gtech (David. E. Goble)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux
Subject: help: setting up ips for dialing in
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:15:35 GMT
Reply-To: goble@gtech

Hi all;

Iam running RedHat 6.2 and trying to set it up as a server.

Not sure how to setup the ip numbers. It will accept a call and allow
login, but comes up with cant use ip.

Here below are some of the files; hosts, options, options.srv,
login.config, mgetty.config, resolv.conf, pap-secrets.

############ hosts #########
127.0.0.1               gtech localhost.localdomain localhost

############ options #######
lock
crtscts
defaultroute
noipdefault

############ options.srv #######
auth
-chap
+pap
login
asyncmap 0
:192.168.0.25
debug
modem
crtscts
proxyarp

############login.config #########
/AutoPPP/ -    ppp     /usr/sbin/pppd file /etc/ppp/options.srv
*       -       -       /bin/login @

############# mgetty.config ###########
debug 4

fax-id 61 08 8553 2829

speed 115200

port-owner uucp
port-group pppusers
port-mode 0664

fax-group uucp
fax-mode 0640
fax-owner root
fax-group uucp
fax-mode 0640

port ttyS2
 direct n
 term vt100
 debug 5
 speed 115200
 login-prompt @ \P login:
 
############### resolv.conf ############
nameserver 203.48.5.1

############### pap-secrets ############
user1 *       ""
user2 *       "" 




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=)
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour.
Date: 10 Feb 2001 19:04:18 +0100

On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, Thaddeus L. Olczyk wrote:

> No such file, I did a 'ls -a ~' and looked for anything that might
> be used for resources ( even checked various ~/.subdirs ). Is it
> possible that xrdb keeps a persistent database somewhere ( I believe
> it does so with Solaris, I often have problems with the rdb being
> out of sync with initialization files on it ) that gets loaded at
> login?

The X server keeps a persistent database, and you can change, print,
and delete stuff from this database using the `xrdb' program.

If you still don't know where xrdb is called, you might have to get
out a sledge hammer:

find / -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep xrdb

Good luck...

kai
-- 
Be indiscrete.  Do it continuously.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:24:36 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, John Hasler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:52:31 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Stefan Ohlsson writes:
>> I know the atheists have a theory that man will develop to a super-man
>> that can travel back in time and will create it all. That's the simple
>> version anyway. I know, sounds weird.
>
>Who are "the" atheists?
>
>Steve Mading writes:
>> Are you being deliberately silly?
>
>Well, it isn't as silly as the old guy with the beard.

Hey!  I have a beard, and I'm not old!  :-)

(Just because I can remember the VMS commands to compile FORTRAN and
COBOL programs back in the mid-80's......)

[rest snipped]

-- 
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EAC code #191       5d:06h:54m actually running Linux.
                    The US gov't spends about $54,000/second.  I wish I could.

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brandon chubb)
Subject: gnome workspace-next key?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:29:43 GMT

Long-time CDE user on OSF, Solaris and others -- an essential feature I use 
on CDE is to map favorite hotkeys to the workspace-next and 
workspace-previous functions so I can easily flip around my workspaces.  
Is there a way to do this in gnome?  I've hunted through the default stuff 
put under ~/.gnome* files and don't see anything promising, nor do I see 
anything promising in the Gnome Users' Guide.

I'm certainly not wed to Gnome (yet), so if another window mgr is
better for me, please clue me in (w/o any religious arguments, mind
you).

Thanks,
Brandon

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Subject: rcmd
From: Steve Connet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:33:33 GMT

Anyone know how to use the rcmd api? When I use it,
I always get 'permission denied' from the remote site.
I am running my program as root, but setting the remote user
to a real user on the remote machine. The remote machine
has my machine in their hosts.equiv.

Any ideas?

-- 
Steve Connet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WEb Cam for Newbi
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:35:36 -0000

Hi All,
OK, I've downloaded w3cam and finally unziped it and un-tar'ed it the manual
just says to run the config file then make the install file and then run the
CGI script. I clicked the config file and it did something, then in the
konsole (note spelling) I typed 'make install' and it returned an error.
There's no cgi file on my drive that I can find :o(
It's becoming obvious after 6 hours getting this far that I desperately need
to go on some kind of Linux for dummies training. Can anyone suggest a page
that starts at press the power button and goes on to explain the basics? My
system is already set up and running so I can skip the building of the
kernel bit.
Everything I've found so far assumes a basic knowledge of Linux with such
statements as 'install the file' but doesn't suggest HOW you 'install the
file' and the like.

As ever any suggestions appreciated.
Biker Bob
Linux newbi, starting to drown



> Hello,
>
> yes you can select the input in webmode or preset it with the w3cam
config,
> just try it out, download & RTFM.
>
> I don't know if you have an original haupauge btv848 or 878 card, the 878
> worked for me
> out of the box with SuSE 7.0, plain SuSE kernel, the 848 should behave in
the
> same way.
>
> I have another card with btv878 chip and video input, but it's one of
those
> cheap crap cards,
> no original haupauge card. It works, but you have to fiddle around and
compile
> tons of stuff
> out of the kernel which was really a pain, in order to get the video input
> working.
>
> try
> lsmod
>
> to see if all modules neccesary got loaded
>
> This is how I could get it running loading the  (the order is important!)
> modules:
>
> modprobe videodev
> modprobe i2c
> modprobe tuner type=5
> modprobe msp3400
> modprobe bttv card=24
> lsmod
>
> Good luck
>
> Michael Heiming
>
>
>



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