Linux-Misc Digest #181, Volume #19 Thu, 25 Feb 99 22:13:13 EST
Contents:
Re: Which HP DeskJet to buy/not to buy? - quick advice needed, please!
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 2.2.1 -- not recognizing an ATAPI cdrom? (Toshio Kuratomi)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Frank Sweetser)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Christopher Browne)
Re: Help! When LILO becomes LI? Failed to boot linux from NT loader (James Myles)
Re: More bad news for NT ("JACK")
Question about named pipes (FIFOs) ("David Sisk")
RedHat 5.2 --> 2.2 Kernel (Brandon)
Re: Turtle Beach Montego (Dell OEM) with RedHat 5.2 (Patrick Lanphier)
Re: New York Times magazine article ("JACK")
Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated? (Adam Constabaris)
Re: Turtle Beach Montego (Dell OEM) with RedHat 5.2 (Dan Nguyen)
Re: Spreadsheets and presentation software? (Patrick Lanphier)
Re: IBM adds Linux (steve mcadams)
Re: RedHat 5.2 --> 2.2 Kernel (Frank Sweetser)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Frank Sweetser)
Re: mount NeXT cd on Linux (Dan Nguyen)
Re: Reverse IP-Masquerading (Patrick Lanphier)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Ryan Cumming)
Soundblaster Pro clone and kernel 2.2.1 (Anatol Quabach)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which HP DeskJet to buy/not to buy? - quick advice needed, please!
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:38:16 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Daniele Bernardini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have the same printer and I'am having problems with black printing:
> too much ink. Gamma correction doesn't help... :(
Before sending the file to lp?, send the following PCL command: Esc*o-1M (or
the octal sequence: 027 042 111 045 049 077) to put the printer in EconoFast
mode.
I successfully tried it on a HP697c.
Serban
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Toshio Kuratomi)
Subject: Re: 2.2.1 -- not recognizing an ATAPI cdrom?
Date: 26 Feb 1999 01:22:17 GMT
On 22 Feb 1999 23:23:46 GMT, Toshio Kuratomi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have two IDE hard drives, /dev/hda /dev/hdb and
>two IDE-ATAPI cdrom's /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd. Under
>kernel-2.0.35 and 36 everything was recognized and
>ran fine. Under 2.1.1 The second hard drive is not.
>Here's (hopefully) the relevant messages:
> RZ1000: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 50
> RZ1000: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> ide0: disabled chipset read-ahead (buggy RZ1000/RZ1001)
> ide1: disabled chipset read-ahead (buggy RZ1000/RZ1001)
> hda: ST31220A, ATA DISK drive
> hdb: Maxtor 71626 AP, ATA DISK drive
> hdc: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:252, ATAPI CDROM drive
> hdd: <FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF>
> <FF><FF> <FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF>
> <FF><FF><FF><FF><FF><FF>, ATAPI UNKNOWN (type 31) drive
> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
>
Well, I turned off my machine yesterday and when I turned it on this
morning, hdd was recognized. Unless it stops working again, I'm going to
assume the drive needed to poweroff before it would be recognized....
>Also, My modules don't appear to be unloading automatically. I have this
>entry in /etc/crontab (Nearly copied from Documentaion/kmod.txt):
>
> 0-59/7 * * * * /sbin/rmmod -a
>
I changed the entry to be like some other entries in the /etc/crontab:
0-59/7 * * * * root /sbin/rmmod -a
and now it works. I haven't found this syntax documented anywhere, but I'm
going to assume that this runs /sbin/rmmod as root whereas the previus line
ran it as user nobody or something... Can anyone verify this/tell me where to
find this documented? (This is for vixie-cron-3.0.1)
--
badger \\ "What's all this? What's all this?"
@prtr-13 \\ -Mr. Banks, Mary Poppins
.ucsc.edu \\=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 25 Feb 1999 20:16:14 -0500
Graffiti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> >> Because of this, GPL is only usable for home toy projects.
> >> Outside that realm it breaks down quickly
> >
> > So IBM and Oracle are now toy mfg's:)
>
> Ah... I can hear it now:
>
> "Mommy, mommy, can I have that IBM S/390 system for my Oracle 8i server?
> Pwease?"
>
> "No dear, we already bought you three RS/6000 boxen for your DB/2
> servers. This S/390 is for your baby brother."
miss, will you adopt me? Please??? =)
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.1 i586 | at public servers
echo "ICK, NOTHING WORKED!!! You may have to diddle the includes.";;
-- Larry Wall in Configure from the perl distribution
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 01:28:11 GMT
On 25 Feb 1999 04:52:30 GMT, John S. Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Do something new!!! If I hadn't gotten ill after (actually
>during) leaving FreeBSD, my project would have moved forward
>more quickly. I am TRYING to do something new, and it is
>a d*mned sight harder than coding yet another monolithic
>unix kernel.
>
>YAMUK :-). I like it :-).
You'll probably get it more done more quickly by designing and coding
than you do by visiting comp.os.linux.misc and griping about how the GPL
isn't a free license.
--
Microsoft is not the answer.
Microsoft is the question.
NO is the answer.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: James Myles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help! When LILO becomes LI? Failed to boot linux from NT loader
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:48:11 +0000
Victor Tsang wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am a newbie to Linux. I recently add a new HD to my PC for
> installing Linux, co-exist with my Windows NT in the same machine.
>
> As I want to keep the NT, I must make use of NT loader to
> boot linux. So, I'd read Linux+NT-Loader mini howto, BOOTPART
> documentation and some web pages discussing how to make my NT loader
> boot/load linux.
>
> (Installation detail see below later.)
>
> When I select "Slackware" in NT loader, the screen goes from blue (NT
> loader) to black and has "LI" on the left top screen (should be LILO?)
> and then hang...
>
> Do you have any idea on this issue? I am new to Linux world so anything
> (even you feel silly) will be helpful. Thanks very much.
>
> Victor Tsang
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> My config:
> NT: version 4.0 (Traditional Chinese) with sp4 applied
> Linux: Slackware 3.6
> CPU: AMD K6-2
> First IDE bus: 1 ATAPI CD-ROM (G: in NT)
> Second IDE bus: 6.5GB Harddisk (C: and E: in NT. Both are NTFS)
> SCSI disk 1: 2GB, D: in NT, NTFS. (/dev/sda)
>
> SCSI disk 2: 9GB, H: in NT. FAT16 (/dev/sdb1) with unpartitioned space
>
> (new disk. going to install linux in it)
>
> Install procedure:
> 1. boot Slackware boot disk and root disk
> 2. run "cfdisk /dev/sdb" to prepare linux partition and linux swap
> partition in the 2nd SCSI disk as below:
>
> here is the partition "allocation" of /dev/sdb:
> - 1st partition: 1GB, FAT16, H: in NT. cfdisk said it is primary
> partition
> - 2nd partion: 1.8GB, linux, ext2 fs, boot, primary partition, appear
> to be
> /dev/sdb3
> - 3rd partition:120M, linux swap, swap fs, logical partition, appear
> to be
> /dev/sdb2
> - unpartitioned free space
>
> 3. run slackware setup, which prepare file systems, and install some
> packages... etc...
> 4. run liloconfig to config lilo
> - install lilo in superblock
> - root=/dev/sdb3
> - boot=/dev/sdb3
> also prepare a lilo boot floppy
>
> 5. after lilo is updated, make boot sector image:
> dd if=/dev/sdb3 of=/FAT/linux.boo bs=512 count=1
>
> 6. reboot NT.
> - copy H:\linux.boo to C:\linux\boot.001,
> - add "C:\linux\boot.001="Slackware" " in boot.ini
> - I also try bootpart.
> - generate boot file using bootpart
> - add "C:\linux\bootpart.001="Slackware (bootpart)" " in boot.ini
>
> 7. reboot. select "Slackware"
> "LI" on screen and halt.
>
> 8. reboot. select "Slackware (bootpart)"
> "LI" on screen and halt.
>
> Victor Tsang
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Looks like you have messed up the Master Boot Record. This happens when
you install over linux with MS Windows.
My suggestion is that you restore the MBR:
1) Boot to MS-DOS using your emergency boot disk (get one from someone
if you haven't got one)
2) At the command line type: FDISK \MBR
3) The MBR should be restored.
4) Don't do it again:)
Although I have heard of cases where this method has failed it is a safe
bet and should work.
--
Best wishes,
James
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From: "JACK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 01:21:46 -0000
>> Would you put your end-users on Linux?
My the physics dep in my college tried this and unfortueatly it failed. why?
>1. lower maintenance costs
no joy here. I Ireland any way it is very hard to get Unix\linux people
cheap. when something went wrong thay had to get "old-hand" unix gurus who
cost a bundle. and thing do go wrong when have maybe 200-300 (incompetent)
users.
>2. lower program costs
very true. but all linux apps have very diffferent interfaces compared
to 95\nt progs and even compared to each other. this implies a learning
curve that adds to the TCO. unless your users have access to almost
identical apps under linux they will not use it, at least not well. a good
example of where linux would work would be a restricted shell that ran
netscape only . any one who ran netscape on 95\nt could use this without
even knowing it was linux. but after netscape i can't think of many other
examples
>3. lower machine costs (most people curse Win 95 for being slow, let alone
>Win 98). The average machine is a 486/low end pentium.
absolutely true. i set upp a machine for a client on an old 486 to act as
an internet gateway for about 20 users. this would be impossible under
95\nt. neither of which would even install on this machine
>4. More stability/security
again true. the 486 machine curently has an uptime of ~200 days and an
averge load of .15%
>5. Ability to run remote apps without having to get an X emulator.
no comment
the point is horses for courses NT as a desktop user envoirment is fine. NT
as a server no-way Linux wins hands down
j
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From: "David Sisk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question about named pipes (FIFOs)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:24:21 -0500
This is a "synchronization" type question.
Say you have Process1 which is listening on a named pipe (or an unnamed
pipe, for that matter) called Pipe1. Process2 writes '123' to Pipe1.
Process3 writes 'ABC' to Pipe1. Process2 and Process3 attempt to do this at
the exact same time. What happens?
1) Process1 gets either '123ABC' or 'ABC123'. In other words, only one
process at a time can write into the pipe, and it will be the first process
that gets there.
OR
2) Process1 might get '1A23BC', 'AB123C', etc. In other words, Process1
receives the data in whatever order it happens to get placed in the pipe by
whatever writing process.
Which scenario is correct?
Also, thanks to all you folks for answering many of my questions. I'm
trying to get comfortable with unix and unix programming, and you folks are
really helpful. It is much appreciated!
Please email as well as posting, if you can and don't mind.
Regards,
--
David C. Sisk
The Unofficial ORACLE on NT site
http://www.ipass.net/~davesisk/oont.htm
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From: Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: cmp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RedHat 5.2 --> 2.2 Kernel
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:37:08 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a RedHat 5.2 box that I need to upgrade to the 2.2 kernel to
increase my file handle limits (and other improvements, of course).
I heard RedHat has some instructions to do this and isn't 5.2 supposed
to be 2.2 ready? I can't find anything on their site though, and I am
hoping the experience of this group can provide me some fairly simple
instructions to do this. I am not a pro, but I have recompiled the
kernel a time or two.
If you can help, PLEASE.
Thanks/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Patrick Lanphier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Montego (Dell OEM) with RedHat 5.2
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 02:10:04 +0000
I'll join you on this one I've got a Diamond Monster MX300 which has the same chipset.
Patrick Lanphier
Craig Bailey wrote:
>
> Ditto here!
>
> The demand is growing. No sound yet for me either with the Dell turtle
> beach montego pci soundcard. RedHat 5.2 too.
>
> Thanks for the company.. I thought it was just my inept configuration
> skills!
> Craig Bailey
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "JACK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New York Times magazine article
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 02:00:18 -0000
I'm the source of this number
Jason Clifford wrote in message ...
>On 23 Feb 1999, Michael Powe wrote:
>
>> The figure of `7 million users' was given out by Corel when they
>> announced WordPerfect for linux last May, but they did not indicate
>> their source for the number.
>
>If you are going to base an arguement on someone's assessment it would be
>nice to know how they arrived at it. Red Hat have explained their numbers
>and generally others have based their on Red Hat's.
>
>Jason Clifford
>Definite Linux Systems
>http://definite.ukpost.com/
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Constabaris)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated?
Date: 26 Feb 1999 01:45:52 GMT
Frank McKenney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: >> I agree 110%. I am also very new to Linux and have found it very difficult
: >> compared to other operating systems that I have worked on before and I wd
: >> take an IRQ conflict with my sound card and network adapter any day to the
: >> frustration I've had in setting up X let alone getting any good help from
: >> these newsgroups.
OK, yeah, X *is* harder to set up than, say MSwin; it would be nice to
have a probe program that's a little more flexible than SuperProbe (e.g.
that you could use w/Cirrus Logic chips), but that's pretty minor (or is
it?).
I thought the main barrier is that Linux developers have to ask, nicely,
for the specs for various things (mainly monitors: that's where all the
real hassle resides) while MS et al can *pay* for the specs, or at least
offer incentives to the manufacturers (like this one: make your hardware
dependent on our OS by making it with less native smarts and sell it
cheaper, capturing more of the market than you would if you made it
'smart' enough for those other OSs to use ...)
Now I hope that somebody else didn't say just this in one of the next 15
messages in this thread ...
AC
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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Montego (Dell OEM) with RedHat 5.2
Date: 26 Feb 1999 02:16:43 GMT
Robert Crosbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: jht wrote:
:> has anyone been able to get the turtle beach montego pci soundcard to
:> work under RH 5.2? i've found drivers for other turtle beach cards,
:> but not this one. i really want to play my mp3's.
:> thanks,
:> jht
: I have the same board and no, its not being supported yet, but hopefully
: someone will soon write the code for it.
OSS is writing one, but it isn't ready yet. They're saying June (maybe).
--
Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
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From: Patrick Lanphier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Spreadsheets and presentation software?
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 02:25:34 +0000
Star Office is a good solution. Here are a couple of others Applixware by Red Hat,
SIAG, and
KOffice. Here we are going to be using Star Office.
Patrick Lanphier
Advanced Information Technologies
The Pennsylvania State University
"Bryan J. Maloney" wrote:
>
> My joy at finding that WP8 was ported to Linux has deflated somewhat upon
> reading the fine print. It's ONLY WP8, not the full WP8 package. That
> means, if I switch to Linux, I would also have to find a separate
> spreadsheet and presentation software.
>
> So, what is out there? I want something with ALL the functionality of
> Quattro Pro 8 AND Corel Presentations 8, at a total price COMBINED with
> that of the WordPerfect 8 that would not exceed the academic pricing
> available for the WP8 suite plus manuals. Otherwise, why shouldn't I just
> stick to Win95 and get the applications that I want?
>
> --
> To women contemplating marriage: The question you should ask is not
> "How much do I love him?" The real question is "How much can I
> tolerate him?"
> http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bjm10/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: IBM adds Linux
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 02:36:36 GMT
[Posted & mailed, snipped, quoted is ">"]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams) wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>What I intended to say is that I heard somewhere that there is
>>something missing in the Intel architecture that prevents you from
>>doing this. I don't know what it is yet or if there's really
>>something missing, it could be an urban legend for all I know at the
>>moment.
>
>A process can find out in which protection level it is running
>by checking the lower two bits of the code segment selector.
>e.g.
>
> mov eax, cs
> and eax, 3
>
>Reading the value of the code segment selector is not a privileged
>instruction so the virtual machine cannot trap and emulate this. If
>a process is running at level 0 then it is in control of the machine,
>if it is running at any other privilege level then it is not in control
>even though executing privileged instructions seems to work.
>
>Norman
That would probably be enough. Maybe they'll add this sort of
functionality in the PIII or maybe they'll just document some feature
that has supported it for years and nobody knew about.
____________________________________________________________________________________
"The meaning of life is of dubious value..." -steve, http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: cmp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RedHat 5.2 --> 2.2 Kernel
Date: 25 Feb 1999 20:58:16 -0500
Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a RedHat 5.2 box that I need to upgrade to the 2.2 kernel to
> increase my file handle limits (and other improvements, of course).
>
> I heard RedHat has some instructions to do this and isn't 5.2 supposed
> to be 2.2 ready? I can't find anything on their site though, and I am
> hoping the experience of this group can provide me some fairly simple
> instructions to do this. I am not a pro, but I have recompiled the
> kernel a time or two.
poke around on ftp://updates.redhat.com/, there's a stack of official
updates for 5.2 to make it 2.2 ready.
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.1 i586 | at public servers
Though I'll admit readability suffers slightly...
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 25 Feb 1999 21:03:20 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson) writes:
> Linux was rewritten for no reason, other than to take concepts and
> to restrictively license them with GPL.
bullshit, john. linux was written because linus had a need (a unix os for
his new 386), he wanted to learn how to do it himself, and others joined
in.
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.1 i586 | at public servers
Though I'll admit readability suffers slightly...
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mount NeXT cd on Linux
Date: 26 Feb 1999 02:10:37 GMT
David Arcoleo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
: <html>
: Does anyone know how to mount a NeXT cd on Linux? It doesn't seem
: to recognize the format.
: <p>-Dave</html>
DON'T post in html.
--
Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
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From: Patrick Lanphier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reverse IP-Masquerading
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 02:28:54 +0000
Setup the windows machine with wingate last time I used it, it was free for one user.
You also may
be able to find a driver for the winmodem, but good luck.
Patrick Lanphier
Advanced Information Technologies
The Pennsylvania State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have read the HowTo's and the past posts and found nothing on what I want
> to know. I am running RedHat 5.2, but I have a winmodem,(cant afford a new
> one right now) so I cannot get on the net as is. I was wondering if there is
> any way that I can connect to a win98 machine and use the modem from that
> machine?? maybe through a serial connection or something?? A friend of mine
> has a gateway laptop that I want to try and connect to. If this is not
> possible at all, is there a way to connect our machines and me be able to
> access the files from her machine. So like maybe i could download files to
> her harddisk and then connect our machines and get them somehow? how would
> this be done? anyone?
>
> Thanks,
> Mandy
>
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From: Ryan Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:57:14 -0800
William Wueppelmann wrote:
> In our last episode (Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:25:55 -0800),
> the artist formerly known as iratheous said:
> >I'm glad to see honesty, even when dealing with something you dont like :)
Thanx
> >Oh btw, I don;t liek counter arguments of 'it's debatable' without actually
> >presenting a debate! It's a cop-out. "It isn't as good", "Why" , "Because
> >it isn't!"
> I'll give it a try:
>
> >>>1. Better GUI
> >> This is debatable.
>
> When I do use a GUI, I prefer a window manager like WindowMaker which
> supports workspaces (or paging or virtual desktops in other WMs), which
> allows me to use a GUI without a rodent, and which is customizable to my
> needs as well as my colour scheme preferences. The Windows GUI is hardly
> best of class in terms of interface and power, and even the aesthetics,
> while nice, aren't the best I've ever seen.
>
> >>
> >>>2. More software
> >>>3. More Hardware support
>
> This isn't about the quality of the OS, though, is it? Besides, there's a
> difference between `more software' and `more useful software.'
>
> >>>4. Better gaming platform
> >>>(shudder)
> >>
> >> This is redundant, part of 3 & 4.
>
> It also depends on what kind of games you play.
XBill gets old fast. Half-life has a bit more replay value.
> >>>5. More consistency (see my previous post)
> >> The value of this is debateable.
>
> What consistency? Not only does Windows behave in a highly idiosyncratic
> manner, but each version of Windows presents a substantially different
> interface and mode of operation. I have a feeling that when people talk
> about consistency in Windows, they are referring to the windowing toolkit
> used to build frames, buttons, slider bars, etc. and not to the more
> important aspects of consistency, such as what actually happens when you
> use those items and what kind of input and output is taken and produced by
> the system and its applications, and where different menu items, files and
> the like are located from one version to the next.
Are you kidding? Linux veries fmore from one ditrobuion to the next more than
Windows does from oone version to the next. If you start talking about other
Unixes, consistency becomes a joke.
> >>>6. One word: Microkernel
> >> The value of this is VERY debateable.
>
> (I won't pretend I know very much about the workings of kernels.)
Quick rundown: Microkernels have a small kerneloid entitiy that privide base
services like mulitasking annd virtual memory. All other components are
seprerate, destinct, modules that communicate with the kernel through some
messaging system. Macrokernels have all the core OS
functionality (drivers,filesystems,multitasking,etc.) in one bin executable
(/boot/vmlinuz or something simular in Linux).
>
> >>>7. No mounting
> >>
> >> This is also the case in Linux depending
> >> on the shell in question.
>
> And mounting allows for a more flexible system anyway. In Linux, mounting
> can be made transparent, or at least almost so, but in Windows, the
> benefits of mountable filesystems cannot be simulated. Moving
> c:\Program Files to d:\Program Files would probably require an uninstall
> and reinstall of most of your software, if not the entire OS. Moving /usr
> from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hdb4 is a fairly simple procedure which can be done
> transparently to everything else on the system, except /etc/fstab.
I mount my CD-ROM more than I transfer folders between hard drives. I think the
net time wasted is more in a OS that requires mounting.
> >>>8. Better file locking
> >>>9. More multithreaded apps
> >>
> >> The value of this is debateable.
> >> This more a fix for NT's problems
> >> with multiple processes.
>
> The Unix file locking system seems to work pretty well, but I guess I won't
> comment on these things given my overall level of knowledge regarding them.
>
> >>>10. Better user support
> >>
> >> From whom? Consumer software support is
> >> in general laughable, M$ included.
>
> Indeed. User support is almost nonexistent, unless you have deep pockets.
>
> --
> William
> It is pitch black. You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: Anatol Quabach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.debian.user
Subject: Soundblaster Pro clone and kernel 2.2.1
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:44:31 +0100
I posted this one before and I can't believe I get no
response, so I'm giving it another try: I just upgraded my
kernel to 2.2.1, upgrading wasn't quite as
smooth as I'd expected. Now pcmcia services are up again
(hello world!), next step: sound.
There's a ESS1788 sound chip in my notebook (running Debian
hamm, kernel 2.2.1, sound compiled into the kernel), that's
the plug'n'pray version of the 1688 and a 100% Soundblaster
Pro clone. Basically, the bios does handle the
initialization alright, but it uses a shared IRQ for both
the mixer/audio and the midi device. Guess what happens ;)
I had found a workaround for the 2.0.35 kernel, I used the
Soundblaster driver for audio and a separate MPU401 driver
for midi, deactivating the MPU401 interface of the SB
driver. It used to work (don't ask me why) until I upgraded
to 2.2.1.
Any ideas how to deal with the shared IRQ under Linux? Or
did anybody make an ESS1788 work with the new kernel? Since
this chip really is 100% Soundblaster Pro compatible, I
would be interested in some comments from SB Pro users and
users having problems with shared IRQs as well, I don't
think this problem is specific.
TIA.
--
Anatol Quabach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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