Linux-Misc Digest #217, Volume #19 Sat, 27 Feb 99 21:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Xerophyte)
Re: Newbie Modem/PPP ?'s..... (David Kirkpatrick)
scrambled utmp file (Dan Srebnick)
Re: Now it won't boot! (Ross Vandegrift)
Re: Anti-Virus for Linux (Ross Vandegrift)
Re: Linux g++ ("David Z. Maze")
Re: Anti-Virus for Linux (Todd Knarr)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Alexander Viro)
Re: Downloading at half the speed under Linux vs NT (Todd Knarr)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (jik-)
Re: Digital Cameras (Jeremy D. Zawodny)
linux install nuked a fat32 partition table (Todd)
System Commander Won't Boot Linux ("John K. Culver")
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Robert)
slrnpull and modem problem (William Wueppelmann)
Re: Should IBM port Visual Age for Java to Linux? (Marten Feldtmann)
Re: Re: Modems :( Suggestions? (Robert Heller)
Re: Linux on Gateway 3100 "Fireant" (Robert Heller)
Re: Stop this bogosity, damnit! Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (John S. Dyson)
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From: Xerophyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:15:45 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also consider that Intel announced a product which conceivably could invade
privacy.
Caere and Mircosoft (Office2000) both want users to register their products
or else they don't get a key code to make the product work after 20 days.
The us government knows more about its citizens than other governments know
their citizens. (not just name/address/such)
Bank companies need to look only at a credit card tally and see who we're
buying from.
These anti-Intel folk are shortsighted idiots! Intel's "crime" is not
worthy of this bullshit yet they don't seem to mind all these other direct
violations of our privacy.
John Meissen wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Boycott Swintel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Pentium III chip with the individual serial number that can
> >track your web surfing and buying habits can now have the ID number
> >turned on and off by software.
>
> This is untrue. The fact is, the feature can be disabled with software,
> but it can ONLY be turned back on by a full hardware reset.
>
> Of potential concern is that after a hard reset the feature =is=
> reenabled, but if you consider the logic of not being able to
> enable via software, this is the only way to provide for re-enabling
> the feature.
>
> Given that the feature exists, and the way it works, obviously
> the best solution is for BIOS manufacturers to provide for
> disabling at power-on. Otherwise it seems to me a trivial matter
> to provide capability under Linux or any other OS to disable it
> at boot time.
>
> A boycot based on this is ridiculous. Whether you use the chip
> or not should depend on the capabilities of the CPU and if you
> feel they meet your needs.
>
> john-
--
Get a real OS for 1/3rd the price AND size, and 3 times the performance of
Winbloat NT: BeOS r4.
"Idealism is a wonderful thing, all you really need is someone rational
enough to put it to proper use..."
www.geocities.com/~timanov
That's my bloody signature. Be happy. :-)
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Modem/PPP ?'s.....
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:44:32 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Generic info for RH 5.2. Assumption: you installed PPP.
===================================================================
RH puts ppp scripts in /usr/doc/ppp-2.3.5
Copy ppp-on, ppp-on-dialer, options to /etc/ppp.
===================================================================
Modify ppp-on by editing the following:
TELEPHONE, ACCOUNT, PASSWORD
==================================================================
For exec command. put in correct device probably
cua1 (for RH5.2) and modem speed
===================================================================
Edit /etc/resolv.conf and put in ISP nameserver given you by your
ISP.
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
You usually get two from your isp.
====================================================================
execute ppp-on & and monitor logs with
tail -f /var/log/messages.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OR:
Control Pannel: Modem configuration. Select
correct device. (used in ppp-on script)
===================================================================
Control Pannel: Network Configurator: Routing: Defaults blank
PPP0 will use this so needs a blank here.
===================================================================
Network Configurator: Names: insert ISP
nameserver addresses.
===================================================================
System Configurator: PPP/SLIP/PLIP: Configurations, Add
Fill in Hardware, Communication. Assumes PAP not
required - If things do not work check with ISP.
==================================================================
Save quit. Verify /etc/resolv.conf has your ISP
addresses.
==================================================================
The linuxconf sets up most things but does not
setup the ppp-on script - that must be done by hand.
==================================================================
Testing:
cd /etc/ppp
execute ppp-on
Ping locally between your network machines to insure your ok.
Ping some net address by ip number like 10.220.10.120. Once ppp
is connected.
Verify your name server working, ping boston.com or do an
nslookup microsoft.com
When not dialed in ping someother box locally by name
to insure yor local resolution is working say if
done by the /etc/hosts and /etc/lmhosts
Peter Worcester wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm new to Linux (actually have been away from Unix for 7-9 years, last
> experience was HP-UX)
>
> I recently bought Red Hat 5.2 and installed it just fine on my spare
> machine. There are a couple og things I can't get working. In particular the
> modem and PPP connection. This machine and modem works with NT4 on another
> partition. The system recognizes the modem and it comes up with cu0 - cu3
> (com1 - com4) and I try pointing all of them to dev/modem with no luck. Then
> I went through the PPP connectivlity in deatil and can't get that to dial my
> ISP.
> Can someone point me to where I can find some pretyy deatiled setup
> instructions or give me some tips on how I might go about troubleshooting
> this problem ?
>
> I don't really know where to start. I would think I need to make sure that
> the modem dials out first then go for the PPP connectivity.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated. Could someone volunteer and good FAq
> sites or web sites to help me get started with Linux.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Peter
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From: Dan Srebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: scrambled utmp file
Date: 27 Feb 1999 17:31:04 -0500
I've just upgraded to kernel 2.2.2, glibc 2.06, proc-ps 1.2.9. I've also
recompiled anything I can think of that write to utmp/wtmp against the
glibc.
However, I'm getting corruption in both utmp and wtmp that comes and goes.
Something is not honoring the new format of these file. So I get
scrambled output from last, and utmp has users logged in who are gone.
Can anyone suggest where I should look next for a solution?
Thanks,
Dan
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From: Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Now it won't boot!
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:51:55 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Can any tell me how to boot so I can remowe that line? I'd really
> appreciate it.
When you're booting, pass the kenel the `single' option, to go into
single user mode.
--
Ross Vandegrift | Eric J. Fenderson
ATTENTION: I have **finally** gotten my permit!!!
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From: Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anti-Virus for Linux
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:51:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> There are no viruses that can effect linux IIRC. I hear there was one
> written a long time ago....but that is the only one that I have ever
> heard of.
There were two, or so I have heard. One was a serious virus. The other
was written as a project to prove it could be done. All it did was
infect 3 random executables on the system each time an executable with
it was run. The virus was GPLed and the origial binary your compiled to
start the infection, had a --disinfect option that would clean out your
system.
--
Ross Vandegrift | Eric J. Fenderson
ATTENTION: I have **finally** gotten my permit!!!
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux g++
Date: 27 Feb 1999 20:03:29 -0500
usted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
usted> I recently installed Linux and when I compile code with g++, it
usted> creates an exe in my current directory just like it should, but
usted> when I type in the name of that exe to run it, it says that it
usted> cannot find *x* command. Is this because I need to change my
usted> PATH variable in my login file? Is it looking in the wrong
usted> place? Thanks for any and all help.
<twiddle thumbs>
*yawn*
Huh? Oh. USENET question.
I answered this this morning, that's right.
You should read RFC 1855 ("Netiquette Guidelines"), available over the
Web at http://info.internet.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc/files/rfc1855.txt.
Having done that, you can go back and look at the various posts to
this group. Or if you absolutely refuse to read the newsgroup (bad!)
you can look on DejaNews and find any of the past 20 productive
responses.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anti-Virus for Linux
Date: 28 Feb 1999 00:58:15 GMT
James R. Bunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Intel platforms you still have to be carefull of BSI's since they get
> to the machine _before_ the OS loads. They can do a good job of clobbering
> lilo. Probably the highest risk systems are those that dual-boot linux and
> DOS/WinXX.
Yep, but about all those do is trash LILO since they don't understand it.
The ones that try to intercept BIOS calls tend to die ( or cause the system
to die ) when the boot code switches to protected mode, since Linux
works so radically differently from Win95/98. NT and OS/2 also trigger
similar results, for the same reason. It's rather entertaining watching
a BSI auger in on such systems.
And since you need root access to be able to munge the boot sector on
Linux, and it's difficult to infect programs root might use when logged
in as a regular user, creating a successful BSI under/for Linux is an
extremely non-trivial undertaking.
--
All I want out of the Universe is 10 minutes with the source code and
a quick recompile.
-- unknown
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 26 Feb 1999 21:05:42 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Zenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If you love the GPL and everything it represents, go ahead and use it. More
>power to you.
>
>Just remove those 7 paragraphs of total and completely bull shit in the
>preamble about "freedom" so that you'll quit bull shitting to the world and
>your users.
>
>Oh, wait, I forgot, YOU CAN'T!. The GPL *explicitly* forbids you to change
>or omit any part of it, EVEN IF YOU USE IT FOR YOUR OWN CODE!
Bullshit. GPL is *not* copyrighted. You can't change it on the code of somebody
else (heck, you'ld better keep *any* copyright intact). If you are starting
your own work - edit the thing to your heart content. You'ld better drop
mentioning of FSF as source of standard text, but that's kinda obvious ;-).
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downloading at half the speed under Linux vs NT
Date: 28 Feb 1999 01:07:53 GMT
Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is on com2 irq3. Seems like it will start out half decent but then
> it drops off pretty rapidly and fiinally stalls, if I wait it'll start
> again but usually less than 1k/sec. Could be my ISP connection cause I
> sometimes have trouble under NT as well but it seems to happen often
One thing to check is IP packet loss. Ping the site when things start to
slow down and see what the packet loss looks like. Anything above about
10% packet loss seems to cause problems, and anything above 25% tends to
stall TCP connections.
Another thing to experiment with is the route window. Linux uses a much
larger window than NT, which results in better throughput when there is
no packet loss but worse throughput when faced with non-negligible packet
loss. I added something like this to my ifup-post script on RedHat 5.1:
if [ "$DEFROUTE" = "yes" -a -n "$ROUTEWINDOW" ]
then
REMIPADDR=`ifconfig ${DEVICE} | grep 'P-t-P' |
awk -F: '{ print $3 } ' | awk '{ print $1}'`
if [ -n "$REMIPADDR" ]
then
/sbin/route add default window $ROUTEWINDOW gw $REMIPADDR dev $DEVICE
fi
fi
Then I add this line to the ifcfg-ppp0 file:
ROUTEWINDOW="8192"
linuxconf doesn't like this, but I don't bother with linuxconf much myself
so no problem. This forces the default route to allow no more than 8k of
outstanding data at a time, which seems in my experience to speed things
up when dealing with congested or lossy connections and doesn't hurt
noticeably the rest of the time.
--
All I want out of the Universe is 10 minutes with the source code and
a quick recompile.
-- unknown
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:00:44 -0800
Chris Lee wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> >I decided to go back to gnu.org and read some of the webpage again after
> >flipping through this thread, and following a link from it that
> >eventually got me there. I ran into this page, which pretty much closes
> >the case on what the *real* goals of the FSF are....Its too bad Linux is
> >so linked to this foundation, I do like it better then FBSD.
>
> Yeah. Too bad for you that Linus took steps to prevent people like you from
> stealing the work he and others have put into linux and other OSS software.
>
> A damned shame, isn't it. NOT.
You have no idea what I plan to do with Linux, you have no idea what I
would do if linux was released under BSD licence, or PD. Obviously
because your statement above is totaly off.
Fact is, you don't know shit do you? Well, just look at the words you
just spewed forth for an example....
Next time, finish reading the post....and don't put words into other
people's mouths....it's rude.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy D. Zawodny)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Digital Cameras
Date: 27 Feb 1999 20:17:11 -0500
"The Infernal One" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does anyone either know or have good source information on
> which digital cameras support linux? TIA.
I've got a Kodak DC-210. I communicate with it via the serial cable
and some DC210 Perl modules.
Jeremy
--
Jeremy D. Zawodny Web Geek, Perl Hacker, etc.
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LOAD "LINUX",8,1
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From: Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux install nuked a fat32 partition table
Date: 27 Feb 1999 23:31:28 GMT
I just installed RedHat 5.2 in the free space before a logical fat32
partition. I can't mount the partition (error: no valid msdos filesystem).
Linux fdisk says it has no partition table, but seems to know that it is
fat32. When I boot to 95 or NT it does not appear and Partition Magic 4.0
reports check failed (but also recognizes that it is there as fat32). I
tried fsck and fixdisktable, without luck. Any hope for restoring my data?
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From: "John K. Culver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: System Commander Won't Boot Linux
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 01:12:04 +0000
I've RTFM (SC, RH5.2 Install guide, and "Running Linux"), mucked with my
lilo.conf, and still can't get System Commander to boot linux. Linux
shows up on the SC boot menu, but selecting it only brings a warning
that the partition is not bootable. I'm tried making the root partition
on my Linux drive active/bootable, but nothing has worked.
Here's the setup:
hda: 8.4G with Win98, entire drive formatted in FAT32
hdb: 4.3G with Linux only; root partition is /hdb7; one directory is
formatted FAT16 (extended partition) that I can "see" from either OS.
I had Win98 installed on the "C:" drive, the added a second drive, and
installed linux (Red Hat 5.2) on the "D:\" drive. When I got to the
LILO part of the installation, I selected
Currently, to boot linux, I must boot from a floppy.
Here's what my lilo.conf looks like:
boot=/dev/hdb7
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36.-0.7
label=linux
root=/dev/hdb7
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=dos
table=/dev/hda
Another clue: my motherboard has the option to boot from the D:\ drive.
If I try this, I get a warning that no system disk can be found, so
something is messed up on the mbr/root partition of D: (aka, hdb) -- it
is not bootable, but when I boot from a linux floppy boot disk, the
system loads fine.
Any help at all would be appreciated. If I have to reinstall RH5.2, is
there a way to do it so that I don't loose everything?
JKC
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From: Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 03:08:49 GMT
Like ...........SHUT UP!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: slrnpull and modem problem
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 01:22:45 GMT
A few times when I've aborted slrnpull (using ctrl+c) in the middle of
grabing news and used poff to kill pppd, my modem seems to refuse to hang
up. I can remove the phone jack from the wall and get a dialtone from
another phone off of another jack, but when I reattach the line, my modem
is still trying to send data.
pppd is already killed so I can't kill it again. I've tried echoing
commands directly to /dev/modem (which I have symlinked to /dev/cua2) to
try to get it to hang up, but apparently that's not legal. The only way to
reset my modem that I've found has been to reboot, but there must be a way
to force the modem connection to close.
I'm running kernel 2.0.34 and I'm using Debian 2.0 with pon and poff to
start/stop dialup connections. My modem is a Motorola VoiceSurfr56K, if
that makes any difference.
Any advice would be appreciated.
cheers.
--
William
It is pitch black. You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.lang.smalltalk
From: Marten Feldtmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Should IBM port Visual Age for Java to Linux?
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:00:25 GMT
Dennis Smith wrote:
>
> If you think removing runtime fees makes things cheaper (as
> some here seem to), you are being pretty naive. If it costs
It seems for me, that one would like to buy Smalltalk very cheap,
because the to-be-developed-product is not out yet and if it's
out the opinion will change and now noone would like have runtime
fees .. perhaps there's a market to lean software like cars, but
that will be not much cheaper (in total).
> The only arguments I see against
> runtime fees are those of administration -- its a nuisance,
> so that is why I suggest a couple of fee structures.
Well, we're developing end-user applications and I can tell you,
that we would strongly vote against runtime fees.
Marten
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Subject: Re: Re: Modems :( Suggestions?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Heller)
Date: 26 Feb 1999 22:43:28 -0500
Mike Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:53:04 -0600, wrote :
MM> Bill Unruh wrote:
MM>
MM> > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MM> >
MM> > >I'm sure this has been covered before but I've looked around and found
MM> > >out what is NOT compatible with linux. But what i'm asking is.... Are
MM> > >there any suggestions as to what kind of INTERNAL modem to purchase? IE.
MM> > >Manufacturer, Model, etc. That would work well under linux? Any
MM> > >suggestions would help.
MM> >
MM> > Well, multitech makes PCI modems which are real modems, not controllerless
MM> > ones. HOwever where to find them and the price is difficult. I know in the past
MM> > (eg Sam Leffler's Modem shootout with hylafax) Multitech modems have had a good
MM> > reputation. Note they also make PCI winmodems, so make sure you get the right
MM> > one.
MM> > However why not get an external? You can unplug it if it gets itself into a
MM> > weird state, you can watch its lights to debug stuff. And you are guarenteed a
MM> > non-win modem.
MM>
MM> Ok here's the reason I don't want an external.........
MM> My mouse is a tracball. Don't ask me why, but after a couple of years I have been
MM> quite attached to it. I may never have a mouse again. My tracball uses the only
MM> serial port on the back of my machine. (yes this board only has 1 physical serial
MM> port on it) It seems that an internal modem is the easiest answer to my solution. I
Another option: Boca makes a little ISA board, IOAT55, which has 2
serial ports and a parallel port. I have one of these (my main board,
an old ISA/VLB '486) has 0 serial ports and my system is a SCSI box (no
'IDE I/O board' -- I have an AHA-1542CF (SCSI+Floppy) board). And I
have a serial mouse (ttyS0 (COM1:)), a USR Courier V.everything (33.6K)
and my printer on this board. I also have a Boca 1004 board, which I
use for the console on my ForceCPU40, serial E-Prom burner and a USR
Courier 2400 for my BBS. I love having lots of serial ports and have
all sorts of external serial stuff. I guess this comes from having a
Stride 440, which comes with 10 serial ports (4 on the main processor
board and 6 on the 'Winchester' board (MFM Disk controller).
MM> know other people in the same situation who have have serial mice with only the 1
MM> port on thier machine. An internal modem only makes sense. There are other reasons
MM> for not having an external modem.( IE shelf space to put it on) that may be
MM> considered. And yes I agree these are but minor inconveniences. And the output from
MM> the lights can tell you a lot. But as for convenience and cross platform ease of
MM> use, I am trying to find something that me and my clients could both find cost
MM> effective and simple. In a work environment a lot of people don't want to see all
MM> the cool computer stuff. They just want it to work. So, do you see what i'm trying
MM> to do here? Thanks for your suggestions. I will consider ALL that I read here.
There are many problems with internal modems:
heat -- modems tend to run hot
power -- modems tend to be power hogs
noise -- modems generate noise and are sensitive to noise
And external modem can be better ventilated, has its own power
supply and can be better shielded. This means that external modems
work better, last longer. Also can move to a new machine (it is
unlikely that RS-232 will ever die, at least as long as analog modems
have a use). The 'old' USR Courier 2400 I use for my FidoNet BBS has
out lived at least one computer system -- it is now on its second (or
third, depending on how one counts things) computer system. First it
was on my first Stride 440, which eventually blew a Winchester board,
so I got another Stride 440 and did a parts swap -- same case somewhat
different innards, then I eventually retired that (started acting
flaky) and put the modem on the present '486dx66 system (which is now
pushing 5 years old). The modem itself is probably pushing 15+ years in
age and still works just fine. I expect I will eventually replace the
old '486 box and will probably move the modem to yet another system.
MM>
MM>
MM> --
MM> Mike Martin
MM> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MM> A Member of the HTML Writers Guild
MM> A days not complete without getting into a little trouble.
MM>
MM>
MM>
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Subject: Re: Linux on Gateway 3100 "Fireant"
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Heller)
Date: 26 Feb 1999 22:51:05 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on Fri, 26 Feb 1999 05:10:33 GMT, wrote :
d> Hi,
d> I'm trying to hook up with anyone that is running Linux on their Gateway 3100
d> "Fireant". My machine runs fine, except for one truly annoying problem. The
d> machine will not resume properly. The screen lights, the fan comes on and that
d> is it, it just sits there like that forever. Of course, it resumes fine for
d> Windows NT and even DOS. *Any* pointers would be helpful. I'm something of a
d> programmer and don't mind delving into the OS if need be. I wish Gateway
d> supported Linux now, or at least in the near future. A lot of companies are,
d> they should jump on the bandwagon.
Did you rebuild the kernel with 'Automatic Power Management' enabled?
Did you install APM and are you running apmd?
The kernel shipped with most distributions does not have 'Automatic Power
Management' enabled and many don't install the APM utilities and daemon
(or don't start apmd by default). Automatic Power Management and apmd
is silly on a desktop or server system, since these are not battery
powered systems.
Be sure to check out the Laptop pages linked from the LDP
(http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/).
d>
d> Dan
d>
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d>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Stop this bogosity, damnit! Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 27 Feb 1999 02:58:24 GMT
In article <7b6q5k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) writes:
> [sorry for over-the-head reply]
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson) writes:
>>
>>> Actually, I don't know who put freebsd.misc onto the list of groups,
>>> but I had been normally posting while reading comp.os.linux.advocacy. I
> No, you didn't. c.o.l.a is not (and was not) in crossposting. Grep
> your newsspool and check yourself. And it had been crossposted to c.u.b.f.m
> from the very beginning (to, from - heck knows; c.o.l.m/c.u.b.f.m was there
> since the beginning of the thread).
>
>>> wish newsreaders had a feature that reminded where one is posting. It
>>> would make people (like me) more aware.
>
> <flame>
> So get a non-sucking newsreader. rn had this property. trn, slrn -
>
I am using knews, which has been recommended to me.
>
> If you had spent a frigging two weeks posting this BS into technical groups
> and didn't bother to check *where* are you posting to - excuse me when I
> question your mental abilities. Sorry, I don't believe it. You *should* know
> better. If you *really* didn't - maybe you'ld better stick with AOL or WebTV.
> Obcomp.os.linux.advocacy: WTF are you doing in that gutter?
> </flame>
Your flame wasn't appropriate, and yes, I was posting from the
advocacy groups most of the time (AFAIK.) Please don't flame when
you don't need to. Just because I think that GPL sucks, doesn't mean
anything personal. If you cannot seperate the two, then it isn't
my problem.
First to flame on this thread? When will it ever end :-(.
--
John | Never try to teach a pig to sing,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | it makes one look stupid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | and it irritates the pig.
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