Linux-Misc Digest #217, Volume #26                Fri, 3 Nov 00 02:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: How to detach a program from a terminal (ljb)
  Re: Secure mail under Red Hat 6.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: I want to do weird SCSI sh*t... (Resolution) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  User Root ("TWooly")
  HELP! Where do I find these?!? (John Broadhead)
  Re: specifing a group when mapping a drive to a Samba server (Mark Post)
  Re: User Root (Neil Cherry)
  Re: Linux Routing ("Les Mikesell")
  Re: Linux support for PDAs/organizers other than Palm Pilot? ("Steve")
  Date and time are changing when the system is rebooted ("Chakravarthy Sannedhi")
  RedHat6.0 and telnetd ("Fayaz A. Shaikh")
  Re: two peices of legislation i would like to see (John Hanson)
  Re: RedHat6.0 and telnetd (Daniel C)
  Re: sound card (John Hanson)
  Re: Password authentications (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: Samba cannot provide the file sharing as NT does? (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: Date and time are changing when the system is rebooted (Bob Martin)
  Re: sound card (John Hanson)
  Re: Which LINUX (WebServer on MySQL) (D'Arque Bishop)
  Black Screen of Death ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Date and time are changing when the system is rebooted (E J)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ljb)
Subject: Re: How to detach a program from a terminal
Date: 3 Nov 2000 02:46:21 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On 2 Nov 2000 02:23:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ljb) wrote:
>...
>>You can put it into the background with (in bash) ctrl-Z, then bg, but it
>>will be killed when you log out because all your processes will get a
>>hangup signal (SIGHUP) at that time. If you really want something to
>>keep running after you log out, you generally have to set this up before
>>you start it, like using "nohup" (see man nohup) or "at".
>
>I am running Linux 2.2.13, with bash 2.03, and that is simply not true for
>me.  If I start a process, then background it, I can logout and the process
>will run to completion.  It has been like that for me the whole time I have
>been running 2.2.x kernels with bash 2.x.

OK, thanks, I did some more research so let me correct what I said before.
It seems that exiting bash-2 will kill a background job if the job was
suspended (stopped), but bash will leave a running background job alone.
Other shells will act differently, for example zsh says it will terminate
suspended jobs and send SIGHUP (hangup signal, usually fatal) to running
background jobs. So the rule is, read you shell's documentation or
always use nohup.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Secure mail under Red Hat 6.2
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:58:20 GMT

D & S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi,

: I am looking at moving my company from using sendmail under Red Hat 6.2 to
: something more secure and that gives me some levels of spam control.

Exim.

Regards,
Friedhelm

-- 
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
===================================================================
Friedhelm Mehnert,  Berliner Allee 42,  22850 Norderstedt,  Germany
phone + fax: +49-40-5236562        email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I want to do weird SCSI sh*t... (Resolution)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 03:12:49 GMT

For anyone who was following this thread I did a little digging
in /usr/src/linux/fs/affs and I think I found the answer.

Apparently old Amiga scsi drives could have 256b blocks, which is not
supported by the driver.  I think my scsi drive is one of the above.  I
might have a look into this, but I think finding a working amgia is
probably quicker :-)

Anthony


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: "TWooly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: User Root
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:23:23 -0600

I have a question about changing a users root. Basicly I don't want them
browesing around the whole filesystem.  When they ftp in I want them to go
directly to their home directory and they can't move down from there.
eg have /home/user be / for the user.

Thanks



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From: John Broadhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: HELP! Where do I find these?!?
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 20:41:47 -0700

I need to find a Linux compatible Parallel port ethernet adapter. I
recieved an old 486 laptop that doesn't have any PCMCIA slots. The only
way I'll be able to hook it to my LAN is with a parallel port ethernet
adapter.

I've look on Ebay, but all people are selling are Xircom brand ones,
which I've heard don't work. 

I need to find an Accton PocketEthernet, D-Link DE-600 or DE-620, or a
Realtek brand one. Does anyone know of an online store that has an
old-stock of these?

Thanks,
John Broadhead

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: specifing a group when mapping a drive to a Samba server
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 03:52:15 GMT

On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:04:37 -0600, "Chris Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I have what I think is a pretty simple question.

>How do I specify the group that files created with a samba session have?

Try taking a look at the 'force group' option.

Mark Post

Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: User Root
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 04:09:02 GMT

On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:23:23 -0600, TWooly wrote:
>I have a question about changing a users root. Basicly I don't want them
>browesing around the whole filesystem.  When they ftp in I want them to go
>directly to their home directory and they can't move down from there.
>eg have /home/user be / for the user.

Check out the chroot command, understand that there are ways around
the chroot command. But I can't remember them now.

-- 
Linux Home Automation           Neil Cherry             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.home.net/ncherry                         (Text only)
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52           (Graphics)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/                         (SourceForge)

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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux Routing
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 04:13:54 GMT


"Quad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8tp9ek$td3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> I want to route a local subnet 192.168.0.* 255.255.255.0 through 2
> different gateways. Can reach this from(eth0)
>
>
> 1 will be a direct line to another company and I want all traffic for
> that company to go there. 24.231.45.1 SM 255.255.255.248. can reach
> this from (eth1)
>
> 2 will be a route out to the internet so that users can check email
> etc. 67.45.221.1 sm 255.255.255.128. this can be reached from (eth2)
>
> I am sure linux can do this, I am wondering if someone will give me
> some tips/tricks on this.  I have read the man pages, and have searched
> on the net but it seems there is not much info...at least where I was
> looking.

Your local subnet is a private IP range and won't be recognized on
the internet.   A Linux machine that does have a real IP address
routed by your ISP can perform NAT for the subnet but you need
to set up IP-MASQ instead of normal routing.   For a private
link to another company you would have to arrange with the
network admin at the other end whether they want to route to
your private range or if you need to NAT there as well.   The
easiest way is to connect both routes and your subnet to a
single box.   Use the ethernet interface of this box as the default
gateway for all the machines on the local subnet.   This box
should be configured with a default route of the internet
connection plus a route to the other company's net.  If you
don't NAT for the other company, they will need to add a route
back for your network for the return packets.

   Les Mikesell
      [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux support for PDAs/organizers other than Palm Pilot?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 21:33:37 +0800

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mac Cody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


> Sorry I wasn't clear enough.  What I meant is Linux support for
> upload/download to the above-mentioned PDAs/organizers. Not Linux
> running in the devices themselves.  I'd like to use a PDA/organizer for
> text editing while commuting and upload/download text to my Linux box. 
> Hope that is clear enough.

I have a Psion 5mx, 16 Meg RAM, 10 Meg ROM (various apps), .  Has a serial
port and comes with serial cable.  I transfer files using between the PDA
and my computer using y-modem.  Though small, but larger than a Palm it
has a useable keyboard and a 320x200 dispay.  Do a search in your Google
or your favorite search engine for Psion 5mx.  You might like it, but it is a
tad  pricey.

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From: "Chakravarthy Sannedhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Date and time are changing when the system is rebooted
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 22:19:54 -0600

Hi,

I am running Redhat 6.2 box. I am setting the time with the following
command
>date mmddhhmm
whenever the system is rebooted the time is getting disturbed and it is
getting delayed by 2 hours. I gone through the Linuxconf stuff, but i didn't
find anything related to date and time setting there. Can any body suggest
me something.

Thanks in advance
Chakravarthy K Sannedhi



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From: "Fayaz A. Shaikh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat6.0 and telnetd
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 22:45:24 -0800

I have Redhat 6.0 running. When I telnet into it I do not get login prompt,
it is being connected but no login prompt. Any solution. I will appreciate
your quick reply.

Fayaz



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From: John Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: two peices of legislation i would like to see
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 05:13:13 GMT

On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 20:43:12 GMT, guy-jin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jumped
on a soap box and uttered:

>> well, its election time, and i was thinking about
>>what kind of legislation i would like to see next
>>session.
>>
>>i realise these wont come to be anytime soon,
>>but just so its on the record:
>>
>>'the reform in software purchasing act'
>>
snip

Stop posting this communist crap!  You are making me violently ill.

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From: Daniel C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat6.0 and telnetd
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 05:16:34 GMT

"Fayaz A. Shaikh" wrote:
> 
> I have Redhat 6.0 running. When I telnet into it I do not get login prompt,
> it is being connected but no login prompt. Any solution. I will appreciate
> your quick reply.
> 
> Fayaz

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From: John Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sound card
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 05:29:49 GMT

Is this a new install or an upgrade?  I upgraded from 6.2 to 7.0 and
had the same problem.  What happened was that the new kernel
recognized my USB ports (which prior kernels didn't) and caused a
conflict in the BIOS.  I had my sound cards IRQ set to legacy/non-pnp.
I changed it to auto and was able to set it up under sndconfig after
that..

It doesn't make sense that it would work that way but it did.  I had
IRQ 3 setup as legacy/non-pnp too and I also changed that to auto.
Maybe it was a combination of the 2.

And one more thing.  I tried to re upgrade when I had this problem and
I would get a sig 11 error while booting with a boot disk or the
CDROM.  This was also fixed by the bios changes.

On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 22:14:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] jumped on a
soap box and uttered:

>>i have a problem with my sound card. my mainboard is abit va6 and my
>>sound card is onboard. the chipset of my soudn card is via822xx.
>>
>>my system is redhat 7.0 and sndconfig is find my soundcard correctly
>>but i can't hear any sound also i can't hear linus voice too.  in x
>>windwos when i open mp3 files with xmms, xmms plays teh mp3 but i can'
>>hear sound too, what is the problem ?
>>
>>the system
>>redhat 7.0
>>p-3 600
>>160 ram
>>abit va6 mainboard
>>s3 graphic card
>>
>>
>>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>>Before you buy.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Password authentications
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 05:43:42 GMT

On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 02:15:12 GMT, Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 15:20:18 GMT, "Bradley J. Bartram"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I am currently spearheading a program to roll out linux on our coporate
>>desktops and am hung up on one detail.  Where can I get information about
>>centrally authenticating user passwords ala NT's PDC functions?
>
>Check out Samba.  It can act as a login controller for Win9x systems.  If
>you have WinNT/Win2k systems, Samba TNG will probably be required, and it is
>not yet GA.  http://www.samba.org

I think he wants the Linux "desktops" to authenticate against a PDC, right?
If so the poster should investigate pam_smb. Alternatively, he could just
as easily configure NIS.

-- 
Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Samba cannot provide the file sharing as NT does?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 05:46:18 GMT

On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 09:45:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Somebody says it's because the mapping is not established before the remote
>drive is browsed.  If the remote drive is accessed in Explorer after boot,
>then the application should work well. The recommendation is to change the
>logon behaviour in the Network's property.

Then just ensure the drive is mapped during user login.

>the NT server emulated by Linux with Samba, while I want to share a local
>directory by User Level Access Control.  Could some configuration be adjusted
>to get the user list?

Samba cannot do this. However, I *believe* Samba-TNG can.

-- 
Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux


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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Date and time are changing when the system is rebooted
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 00:03:38 -0600

Chakravarthy Sannedhi wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am running Redhat 6.2 box. I am setting the time with the following
> command
> >date mmddhhmm
> whenever the system is rebooted the time is getting disturbed and it is
> getting delayed by 2 hours. I gone through the Linuxconf stuff, but i didn't
> find anything related to date and time setting there. Can any body suggest
> me something.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Chakravarthy K Sannedhi

When linux boots it is setting the system clock from the hardware clock.
after you set the system clock with the date command, use the hwclock
command to set the hardware clock.
-- 

Bob Martin

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From: John Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sound card
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 06:12:23 GMT

It could also be that you have a "special" via822 sound card.  I've
seen onboard video cards (ATI Rage) that were special too.  The card
was modified by the manufacturer and the windows drivers for it had to
be provided by the manufacturer (and they only made one for Win98).
Contact Abit.

On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 22:14:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] jumped on a
soap box and uttered:

>>i have a problem with my sound card. my mainboard is abit va6 and my
>>sound card is onboard. the chipset of my soudn card is via822xx.
>>
>>my system is redhat 7.0 and sndconfig is find my soundcard correctly
>>but i can't hear any sound also i can't hear linus voice too.  in x
>>windwos when i open mp3 files with xmms, xmms plays teh mp3 but i can'
>>hear sound too, what is the problem ?
>>
>>the system
>>redhat 7.0
>>p-3 600
>>160 ram
>>abit va6 mainboard
>>s3 graphic card
>>
>>
>>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>>Before you buy.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D'Arque Bishop)
Subject: Re: Which LINUX (WebServer on MySQL)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 02:56:24 GMT

Heys Mark,

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Post wrote:
>On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:58:11 +0100, marvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Can you please tell me which Linux & Version should I get ?
>>Currently I am pretty much between Slackware 7 and RedHat 6 (I have 
>>heard 7 is very bugy).
>
>I am running Slackware 7.1, and I would _not_ call it buggy, let alone 'very
>buggy.'  If you only want to work from a GUI, and have the details of what
>is going on your system hidden from you, use Redhat.  If you like more
>control over your system and learning more about Linux, use Slackware.

Um, I think he meant he heard Red Hat 7 is very buggy. :)

Just my $.02...

-- 
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        I am utterly alone.  Evil because I am dead and yet I live.
        Can you hear me?  Listen.  A dead man visits you."
                                       --James O'Barr, The Crow
        
                 D'Arque Bishop -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                    http://www.ravenloft.net/~drkbish

        "For a dark man shall come unto the House of God, and the 
        darkness shall be upon him, yea, even within him."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Black Screen of Death
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 06:18:54 GMT

Looks like Red Hat 7 has it's own counterpart to the notorious hallmark
of Win OS's.  I'm new to Linux so maybe I've done something wrong, but
here's my problem...

I performed a workstation class RH7 (with quite a few optional
packages) on a 12GB drive with a single 2GB FAT16 partition.  I logged
on with Gnome as my window manager.  Everything worked perfectly until
I logged out using the reboot option.  I could not bring the system
back up, as it kept crashing on Gnome's GUI login.

Unable to fix the problem, I reinstalled from scratch and this time did
a custom install, which allowed me to login at the standard terminal.
I then ran "startx", but when I logged out with reboot, my next login
caused the black screen of death and a corrupt file system.

Does anyone have a clue what's going on and how I might fix it?  Or has
anyone seen this behavior?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, here are my system configurations...

General:
========

Pentium II 350 128MB, Matrox Millenium G200 VC (maybe a problem with
XFree86 4.0 ????)

Install 1:
==========

Primary Slave 12GB drive (2GB FAT16 partition, RH7 Workstation Install)

Install 2:
==========

Primary Master 15GB Win2K / Primary Slave 12GB (2GB FAT16, Custom RH7
Install, LILO in boot sector)


TIA,
Troy


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Date and time are changing when the system is rebooted
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 22:41:27 -0800

$ su -
password: <secret>
# timetool    # change the time and "Set System Clock"

Chakravarthy Sannedhi wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am running Redhat 6.2 box. I am setting the time with the following
> command
> >date mmddhhmm
> whenever the system is rebooted the time is getting disturbed and it is
> getting delayed by 2 hours. I gone through the Linuxconf stuff, but i didn't
> find anything related to date and time setting there. Can any body suggest
> me something.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Chakravarthy K Sannedhi


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