Linux-Misc Digest #217, Volume #20 Sat, 15 May 99 15:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can an Oracle network computer connect to Linux server? (Dickon Hood)
Re: car mp3 player (David L. Bilbey)
Re: silly windows ("Mage...")
Re: Registry in Linux ??? ("Mage...")
Re: Sendmail can't start in RH (John Oliver)
Help with Netscape and downloading files (Steve Sauls)
Re: ghostscript printing (fred smith)
HELP : PPP Server ?? (Eric)
Re: fdisk /MBR ??? ("Christopher R. Thompson")
Re: USB Support (John Thompson)
Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux) (John Girash)
Re: good, free ORB w/ C++ & Java lang support ("Peter Brooks")
Re: What is /sbin for? (Was: Proper use of /usr/local) (Fred Gilham)
Re: Communism dosn't even exist, never did... (Mad Nomad)
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From: Dickon Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.net-computer.misc
Subject: Re: Can an Oracle network computer connect to Linux server?
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:22:26 +0100
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sean OC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have inherited a couple of Oracle nc's. The Oracle server is toasted. I
: have a Redhat Linux 2.0.36 server (upgrading to 2.2.x soon). Does anyone
: know enough to tell me if it is worth my time to try to get these two nc's
: to connect to my Linux server? They have 'smart cards' which act as
: logon/security. I would guess that this would be the biggest hurdle.
Good gods, I don't believe it. An on-topic question. Whatever is the planet
coming to...
Yup, RH Linux will quite happily boot these things, assuming they're the
standard Acorn reference design boxes. Assuming these are ethernet
card-based machines, you just need to install bootp, nfsd and a suitable boot
script, and everything should just work.
Upgrade to the latest nfs daemon though; the kernel one in 2.2 can cause
kernel panics and undesirable lockups, and not-the-latest userland daemon
checks a brace of fields which are explictly marked in the RFC as 'ignore
these'; subsequently half the NFS clients on the planet don't set them, and
the field is garbage...
: I admittedly know less than I should about the nc's. I imaging they have
: some sort of proprietary boot prom in connection with the smart card. I'm
: not looking for a detailed how-to, just whether I am way off base in
: wanting to do this, or somewhere in the vicinity of the right ballpark. TIA
As I say, assuming these are the machines I'm thinking of, running NCOS 1.06,
with NCI-badged smartcards (blue things, with a sort of black arrow pointing
in the direction you insert the card into the slot), then you can boot them.
--
Dickon Hood
Due to binaries posted to non-binary newsgroups, my .sig is
temporarily unavailable. Normal service will be resumed as soon as
possible. We apologise for the inconvenience in the mean time.
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From: David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: car mp3 player
Date: 15 May 1999 15:32:04 GMT
+-----On 15 May 1999 07:39:57 -0400, Byron A Jeff spoke unto us:----------
| So I'm looking at a standard MB/CPU combo with a standard HD. Plan to put
| it in a custom case with a DC/DC power supply and stick it in the trunk.
| The faceplate will be the display and keypad.
Do you have any sources for the DC power supply? That's currently what I'm
stuck on, since I decided also to go for the standard MB/CPU/HDD.
David Bilbey
--
"I wish somebody would invent a fruit that had no seeds, tasted delicious,
and would scream when you ate it." --Jack Handey
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From: "Mage..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: silly windows
Date: 15 May 1999 17:15:42 GMT
Lets see, you want to include the commands, and if your new admins couldn't
use them, they'd switch back to Unix. Hmmm... MS decided that it would
be best to have commands that did those functions, and even leave the user
side alone so that admins coming from Unix wouldn't be left out.
mage...
--
Well, look at that. Breach hull, all die.
Even had it underlined.
Crow, MST3K the movie
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From: "Mage..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Registry in Linux ???
Date: 15 May 1999 17:23:27 GMT
Package managers keep track of these things. If you installed software via
a
package manager, such as RPM, then if you remove it, you should do so
through RPM. Other than that, most standalone programs may not require
may other libraries or software, and the ones they do is usually controlled
through a package manager.
A out-and-out registry keeps track of EVERYTHING. This includes hardware,
both permanent and removable, user data, currently logged in user data,
software installed, file associations, etc.
In Linux, RPM's handle their own stuff, anything else you put in is your
responsability, you are the SysAdmin of course. Any file associations are
usually handled by whatever program you are using, xfm, Xfilemanager, KDE
or GNOME desktop. This lets one program to work one way, say for your
users in a corp setting, and another one to have more leeway and control,
for the SysAdmin to go and break stuff.
Mage...
--
Well, look at that. Breach hull, all die.
Even had it underlined.
Crow, MST3K the movie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Oliver)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Sendmail can't start in RH
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:38:19 GMT
On Sat, 15 May 1999 17:01:05 GMT, Kelvin Leung
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I got a RH 5.1 installed in my home server as ipmasq, printer server and
>file server with Samba and Netatalk. I got cable modem connected to it.
>I haven't touch the sendmail configure file since the system installed.
>I have tried to find the mail server howto but they all in bits and
>pieces.
Problem #1: Your Red Hat 5.1 is a root exploit waiting to happen.
Even if you upgrade to 5.2, there's still some work ahead of you. But
as far as sendmail is concerned, get rid of the version included with
either RH, and install 8.9.3 Then, of course, go through all the
other usual security measures... put ALL: ALL in /etc/hosts.deny,
comment out all unneeded services, etc.
># do not uncomment smtp unless you *really* know what you are doing.
># smtp is handled by the sendmail daemon now, not smtpd. It does NOT
># run from here, it is started at boot time from /etc/rc.d/rc#.d.
>smtp stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/smtpd smtpd
>#nntp stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.nntpd
And here's Problem #2... :-)
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:39:33 -0500
From: Steve Sauls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with Netscape and downloading files
I am new to Linux so please bear with me. I installed Linux 5.2 from
RedHat. It ships with Netscape 4.07. I can not download a file of any
size via HTTP. I can however download large files via FTP. HTTP just
cuts off after a period of time.
My point is that I am trying to download WordPerfect and I can not via
HTTP. I can not find the FTP site to get it via FTP.
Has anyone had this problem and what should I do short of buying it?
Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the help in advance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fred smith)
Subject: Re: ghostscript printing
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:05:50 GMT
Frans A. van der Hoorn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,
: I want to use the pdfwrite driver that comes with ghostscript to print
: postscript files to pdf files.
: What is the command line that i should be using?
: Thanks for any help,
: Frans van der Hoorn
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Use the "ps2pdf" script that comes with Ghostscript. (/usr/bin/ps2pdf)
--
---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----------------------------
The eyes of the Lord are everywhere,
keeping watch on the wicked and the good.
============================= Proverbs 15:3 (niv) =============================
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: HELP : PPP Server ??
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 01:39:02 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, Linux experts,
It's my first time to use Linux. I setup a Linux at home.
And I hope my friends can use their PC(ms-windows) to dial into my
Linux.
How can I do this? What should I prepare ?
Since I am a dummy in Linux Networking, would you pleased to teach me
how to
Setup a PPP dialup Server in Linux in detail?
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best regards,
Eric
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From: "Christopher R. Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.protocols.nfs,comp.os.linux.help,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: fdisk /MBR ???
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:20:45 -0700
Mikael Wetterstrand wrote:
> Hello
> Well, I just wanna know what the command /mbr does?
> I know u can use it with fdisk to "get ridd of" Lilo , but what does it
> really do?
Hello all, just got a reply from Cameron Spitzer regarding Lilo and
wanted to publicly retract what earlier I said about "Lilo's the worst".
Quote me instead as saying. "Lilo's the best". What I probably really
meant to say was that "Booting from Floppys is the worst".
I don't know what got into me. My mind must have been suffering from NFS
fever or something at the time.
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: USB Support
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:14:12 -0600
Michael Proto wrote:
>
> Followup-To:
>
> On Sat, 15 May 1999 01:33:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] muttered:
> >On 14 May 1999 17:16:55 GMT, Mark Hahn
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> "It can access the USB hub, and tell you what's on the hub. Actually
> >>> making use of the devices that are found may require drivers that
> >>> aren't There Yet..."
> >>
> >>that's a bit pessimistic.
> >
> >A bit, yes.
> >
> >>linux-usb people report that mice and kbds
> >>work fine enough to be depended on. there are sporadic reports of,
> >>for instance, working usb video cameras, and at least active development
> >>of storage devices.
> >
> >I see in the 2.8 kernel drivers for keyboards, that claims to be
> >workable, and a driver that *looks* like it's some sort of "multiport
> >serial thing." I didn't see mice, but may have misread something.
> >
> >At any rate, it *is* fair to say that what's there now is:
> >a) Somewhat beta-quality code for low level support; when the code's
> >so new it's rather early to call it "mature."
> >
> >b) *Some* device drivers.
> >
> >USB speakers are coming Real Soon Now; support for additional devices
> >will come on a device-by-device basis, and it is too early to predict
> >how quickly that will be.
> >
> >USB-ZIP drives are a neat option; who knows when?
> >
> >--
> >"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
> >"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a real computer" - Dilbert.
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
>
> IIRC, USB Zip drives *ARE* available. I've seen some that have a
> transparent-blue case that resembles a <shudder> iMAC.
Yes, they are available, but AFAIK they are not yet
supported by linux; hence the "who knows when" musing...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
Date: 15 May 1999 14:18:42 -0500
In comp.os.linux.misc Serge Terryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I try Linux RedHat en SuSE, and come very fast back to FreeBSD. What a
: mass this linux. Want software, where to get it? On the net, all right
: but you have to choose the right version RedHat, SuSE,Debian ......
: But there is only one FreeBSD.
Yep, and there's only one NetBSD and only one OpenBSD. Your point being?
: Missing something on linux, go on the net and search. You need a library,
: you find it en you download it, and then you will run the program and it
: don't work, de Lib you download had the correct name, but don't work on
: your version of linux, what a mass.
You forgot a step:
1) find the library on the net & download it
2) --> compile it <--
3) run your program.
just like on any of the *BSD's. Sure, the binary packages are there for the
different distro's, just like each of *BSD provides semi-automatic ports and
the like. But those are just for convenience, you can always roll your own.
It's called Open _Source_ for a reason.
Most of this silly squabbling seems to come from people who forget and/or
don't appreciate that simple fact, both in *BSD-v-Linux and RH-v-Debian etc.
(Aside: You seem to be complaining that in linuxspace there is even the
chance that a SuSE rpm can be made to work on a Debian box, whereas BSDland
gave up on binary compatibility long ago. I see flexibility as a feature).
btw, your scenario can happen even when you use exclusively your own distro's
binaries. It's called multi-platform support. Also a feature.
[followsup redirected from colm to cola.]
--
"don't listen when you're told about the best days in your life Spirit of
a useless old expression, it means passing time until you die." the West
/\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\/
-- John Girash -- girash @ cfa.harvard.edu - http://skyron.harvard.edu/ --
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From: "Peter Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: good, free ORB w/ C++ & Java lang support
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:26:37 +0100
>
>Also, what is the recommended JDK for Linux ? I know that
>Blackdown's JDK is pretty highly recommended. Are there
>any other good Java implementations for Linux ?
www.ooc.com lists a product called Orbacus
I've played with it, and it appears to work fine using jdk1.1.7
It also seems to be extremely fast,after running it on a 486/133 machine, it
outperformed IONAS OrbixWeb under NT4 running on a 300mhz P2!!
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From: Fred Gilham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: What is /sbin for? (Was: Proper use of /usr/local)
Date: 15 May 1999 11:26:32 -0700
I'm pretty sure Sun came up with /sbin when they introduced dynamic
libraries. It contained programs that were absolutely necessary for
booting and the like, so that if you couldn't mount /usr for some
reason (to get at the dynamic link libraries) you could still do
something.
Looking at a SunOS 4.1.3 box, I note that everything in /sbin is
indeed statically linked.
--
Fred Gilham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How many Analytic Philosophers does it take to change a light bulb?
None---it's a pseudo-problem. Light bulbs give off light (hence the
name). If the bulb was broken and wasn't giving off light, it wouldn't
be a 'light bulb' now would it? (Oh, where has rigor gone?!)
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From: madnomad@cybrtyme (Mad Nomad)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Communism dosn't even exist, never did...
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:57:43 GMT
On Fri, 14 May 1999 20:02:08 -0500, Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>
>
>Just to set the record straight for all parties, Communism was a goal which
>was never achieved anywhere.
>That's point #1.
>
>Point #2.
>We DO have some hostile governments around the world, but this has NOTHING
>to do with Linux.
>
ON THE CONTRARY!!! Please re-re-reread my Pulitzer Prize-winning
expose below . . .
LINUX EXPOSED AS COMMUNIST PLOT1!!
The truth can now be told. During the 1980's, a covert project
occupied the minds of high-level KGB and Politburo officials in the
former USSR (that's "CCCP" to those of you who watched those old
propaganda films.) The space program, economic reforms, and
Afghanistan invasion were mere stunts to divert the world's attention
from the Soviets' true goal -- the creation of the ultimate PC
operating system. The Communists touted America's efforts with GEM
and OS/2 as evidence of capitalist corruption. But one American
achievement proved a constant embarrassment to the Commies: The
success of Microsoft's Paul Allen who, along with his junior
cofounder, developed Windows 1.0, and then Windows 2.0, and then
Windows 286, and then Windows 386, and then Windows 3.0, and then
Windows 3.1, and then Windows 3.11, and then Windows for Workgroups,
and then -- well, you get the picture.
The Communist old guard, however, seeded their program with undue
complexity when they condemned the use of the desktop metaphor as
decadent and bourgeois. They insisted instead on the use of certain
carpentry and farm implements as the metaphor of the "OS of the
Revolution." As the Kremlin poured more and more money into the
operating system race, Soviet society began to feel the strain.
Unable to keep pace with the fervent rate of capitalist upgrades, the
USSR collapsed and disbanded. Finally, in 1991, the Communist Party
itself lost power over its last hangout, Russia. The Collective
Bureau In Charge Of Revolutionary Operating System Victory, formerly
known as the CBICOROSV, persisted. They changed their name to the
Grand New Usurpers, or GNU, and went underground.
An unrelenting investigation into this cabal has revealed their
location and terrible purpose. From a short list of nations which had
somewhat tolerated the USSR, they chose an inconspicuous country,
Finland, apparently after an all-night session of drinking Finlandia
vodka and listening to Sibelius' "Finlandia" on a scratchy old
phonograph. Headquartered out of sight, they finalized their plans
for revolution. With preparations complete, later in 1991, shortly
after the GNU had disappeared from view, a young Finnish collaborator
smuggled the ten-year effort of the group to the masses via the
internet. That student subversive used the unlikely alias "Linus
Torvalds," but we have learned that his real name is "Linus Torvalds."
To his comrades on the internet, however, he is known simply as "Linus
Torvalds." We won't say he's BORING, but . . .
This operating system, called "Linux" by the group's misguided
propagandists (after a popular brand of Finnish vacuum cleaner,)
proved as cool and unperturbable as the nature of its adopted country.
The symbol for its GUI, X-Windows, is, after all, simply the Finnish
flag rotated 45 degrees. The GNU's adoption of the penguin as a
trademark, however, betrays their true depravity. The penguin, a
ferocious flightless bird of the Antarctic, is considered an extremely
dangerous predator by all ornithologists.
After its release, the GNU quickly seized the moment, distributing
Linux to its many cells around the world, until now its partisans
number in the hundreds of millions (well, OK, our espionage may be a
little shaky here.) These fanatics, armed with the digital equivalent
of Mikhail Kalishnikov's Model 47, have pushed their revolution from
the alleys and gutters to the very doors of capitalism. Supported by
the people, they are now on the march northwest. Reports from
Seattle, that city of the Lotus-eaters, state that gunfire can be
heard just outside the city limits. It's time for the American public
to WAKE UP.
On this great national holiday, do YOUR part for God, Country, the
American Flag, and Windows NT 3.5 and Windows NT 3.51 and Windows NT
4.0 and Windows 95 and Windows 98 and -- well, you get the picture.
Send me lots and lots of money so I can get this VITAL message out to
an unsuspecting public. It's the American way! No checks, please.
Mad Nomad ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
April 1, 1999
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