Linux-Misc Digest #261, Volume #19 Tue, 2 Mar 99 08:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: FreeBSD vs LINUX (Todd)
Re: Modem ("Alexander Elsenaar")
Re: Help! My printer won't print at all! (Gary Krupa)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Edward Avis)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Richard Steiner)
Re: X won't run yet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Turning 'ping' off, please help. (Ali Bharmal)
Re: how to automate server log on ? (Dmitriy)
Re: [Fwd: Send me to Linux] (Richard Steiner)
Re: Killing Zombie Processes (Bill Unruh)
Netscape icon defunct ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Upgrade to libc6 (Frederick V. Heitkamp)
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From: Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs LINUX
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 23:45:21 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was going to be running (and learning) Linux on a web server.
But the System Admin. at work said BSD is already setup with good
security features, with linux, you have to incorporate (add) your
security features.
Hopefully other will see my post and give more details on this.
James Fox wrote:
> I ran FreeBSD several years ago on a 486 66mz machine and was
> impressed with how solid and fast it was. I ran Apache on it and
> used it to develop HTML/cgi for uploading to a large university
> Sun/Solaris system.
>
> I've now decided to abandon Windows and install "unix". I know
> there are major organizations still using FreeBSD on servers, but
> I'm worried that with all the attention Linux is getting, it's
> probably the bandwagon to hop on.
>
> What are the pros and cons? I'll be using the JDK, GNU-C++,
> Apache, Netscape, etc. What are the chances of a merger of Linux
> and FreeBSD?
>
> Thanks for any input...
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From: "Alexander Elsenaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem
Date: 2 Mar 1999 10:19:19 GMT
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Yes,
Look at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/documentation/mini/
In this directory is a file called modem-sharing or something like
that. Here is all the information you need!
>Hi,
>Is it possible to have a modem attached to a linux box, and have
other
>machines dial out through it. ie modem sharing?
>thanx
>--
>--------------------------------------
>| Julian Smith @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
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>| |
>| As Seinfeld once advised: Cleavage |
>| is like the sun - you can take one |
>| quick glance but then you have to |
>| look away. |
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Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
From: Gary Krupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! My printer won't print at all!
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:31:12 -0800
Youngser,
Thank you for your response (albeit somewhat
delayed) to my posting.
Since posting my distress-call article, I've
compiled a new kernel with parallel-port printing
enabled. Since then I've had no problem printing.
Lp1 has been completely cooperative.
I still have no explanation for the phantom
printer driver. All I know is that when the
problem happened, lp1 didn't appear at bootup, and
now it does. Cat /proc/devices displays lp1 now,
where it didn't before. I wish I could say that it
was due to my imagination that I was able to print
prior to first running ghostscript. But I'm afraid
that I can't -- I remember being able to print at
least once before then.
Gary Krupa
On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Youngser Park wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have a similar setup (RH 5.2, 2.0.36) with a HP 6MP printer,
> and have the same problem. I do remember this printer works
> with an older kernel.
>
> After the printer jobs failed, I checked "dmesg" again, and
> it said:
>
> lp: Driver configured but no interfaces found.
>
> My printcap entry is as follows;
>
> ##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL ljet4 600x600 letter {} LaserJet4
> Default {}
> lp:\
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
> :mx#0:\
> :sh:\
> :lp=/dev/lp0:\
> :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:
>
> and "lpc status" shows;
>
> lp:
> queuing is enabled
> printing is enabled
> no entries
> waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?)
>
> Changing lp0 to lp1 or lp2 didn't help, either.
> Does anyone have a solution for us??
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> - Youngser
>
> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Gary Krupa wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm at my wit's end.
> >
> > My kernel version is 2.0.34. I'm using an HP
> > Paintjet printer.
> >
> > Last night, I tried sending a print job to my
> > printer from ghostview. I was using a postscript
> > filter for the first time. Unfortunately, when I
> > added the filter to my /etc/printcap file, I named
> > it lp -- the same name as another printer listed
> > earlier in the file. Not only didn't the
> > postscript file print. From that moment on,
> > nothing printed.
> >
> > The print jobs would be spooled, and I can remove
> > them with lprm. The lock file would be created in
> > /var/spool/lpd, as before. But nothing would
> > happen when I'd issue the lpr command. And now, I
> > can see that everytime a job is spooled, lpd would
> > spawn as a new process. Previously, it'd always
> > run in the background and didn't need to respawn.
> > Plus, when the system boots, I can't see a
> > statement from the kernel regarding lp1, as I
> > could before.
> >
> > I tried starting the system with my old
> > distribution, kernel version 1.2.8. Then the
> > printing worked fine.
> >
> > I also tried the following:
> >
> > 1. replaced /dev/lp1
> > 2. started the 1.2.8 distribution with the version
> > 1.2.8 /dev/lp1.
> > 3. used my old version of /etc/printcap.
> > 4. changed active printers with export PRINTER.
> > 5. reinstalled the original kernel from the
> > cd-rom.
> > 6. started lpd with the -l option. However, no
> > debugging information has yet been found.
> > 7. changed the group status for all files in the
> > directory /var/spool/lpd/paintjet to lp.
> >
> > I ran lpc as root, and reenabled printing. Nothing
> > appears to be out of the ordinary there.
> >
> > Whenever I issue the lpr command, the following
> > message appears:
> >
> > waiting for paintjet to become ready (offline?)
> >
> >
> > I'm completely baffled by this. The printer is
> > plugged in, and I can print from both DOS and my
> > other linux configuration. I took the printer
> > offline and reset it, with no change in results.
> >
> > My only theory as to why this happened is that
> > lpd became confused by my duplicate lp entry, and
> > I've also read the Linux-Printing-HOWTO and the
> > Linux-Usage-HOWTO, so if you refer me to one of
> > those guides, please refer me to a specific
> > section that's relevant.
> >
> > If you need more information, just ask. I'll be
> > only too happy to provide it.
> >
> > I'm afraid I'm in over my head on this one. Please
> > help, ANYBODY!
> >
> >
> > Gary Krupa
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> - Youngser
>
> ==========================================================================
> Youngser Park | The George Washington University
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Dept. of EE & CS
> (202) 994-5373 (O) -0227 (FAX) | 801 22nd St. NW,
> http://www.seas.gwu.edu/graphics | Washington, DC 20052
> ==========================================================================
>
>
>
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From: Edward Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 11:22:46 +0000
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>i have no idea why others would copy a symbol obviously composed from
>the letter U and S, unless their country also had these very same
>initials.
- The US was the first major country to adopt 'dollar' as its main
currency.
- Consequently, people would say 'dollar' rather than 'US dollar',
since dollars were associated with the US. They still do.
- The $ symbol began to stand for 'dollar' rather than 'US dollar'.
- When other countries started to use their own dollars, they copied
the dollar sign, even though it was originally specific to the US.
- Hence, to be totally unambiguous, you need to say $5US, USD5, or
whatever, rather than just $5.
--
Ed Avis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 07:16:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
> Hehehe... If I had a good printer, and a book on TeX, I'd learn it... =)
>
> I've heard that TeX is a markup language, like HTML, but without hyper-
> text... is this correct?
It is a markup language of sorts. Pretty simple, there are several nice
books on how to write LaTeX documents. Once you get the hang of it
traditional word processing seems obtuse and slow (what do you mean I have to
worry about how the thing is going to look on the page?).
As for the printer thing, for a while there I had an Epson FX80 9pin dot
matrix as my only printer. I had a ghostscript driver for it which worked OK
so I could preview my LaTeX documents here before printing them on the Laser
printer at work. The great thing about TeX is that the output looks exactly
the same no matter what printer you have (within the limitations of
resolution of course) so when I was doing my thesis the majority of the pages
I printed in monochrome but I interspersed pages from a Textronic colour
printer when needed and it all fitted together nicely.
If you want to get the advantages of TeX quality but still feel you need to
have a more visual display than vi gives (personally I prefer straight text
rather than WYSIWYG because it is clearer and easier on the eyes) you can try
Lyx1.0 which is excellent.
Shane
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 00:22:24 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lamb)
spake unto us, saying:
>Richard Steiner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>: No offense intended, but most newsreaders have a killfile or some sort
>: of article scoring capability built in.
>
>No offence intended, but before my killfile operates, the newsreader has
>to d/l the article at a cost for the 'phone time. Net result, I d/l
>articles I don't see and pay for the privelege.
I guess your partitipation on Usenet comes at a greater price than I
had considered. :-( I'll retract my above comment, and I apologize
for being too quick on the trigger. Though I think some newsreaders
would handle that a bit more gracefully than Tin does.
>Remember, all the world isn't the US, we don't get free local calls.
I'n using a home RADSL connection, so this isn't particularly "free",
but probably still less than what you're paying. It's unfortunate that
such services are not available for comparable prices all over...
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
You are in a maze of twisty messages, all alike.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X won't run yet
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 06:23:28 GMT
Doing ifconfig, I see a lo, but no lo0. Is that ok? If not, how then
do I set up a loopback driver. I run my linux standalonely, w/o
nic.
Rene
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Do you have network support and/or ethernet support
> configured? If you do an 'ifconfig', you should see a
> lo0 entry for your loopback driver. If you don't, you should
> set up a loopback driver to address 127.0.0.1.
>
> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:16:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Son Trung Nguyen) wrote:
>
> > I just built X and tried to run it but I got the following errors:
> >
> > #startx
> >
> > _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
> > _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
> >
> > Fatal server error:
> > Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't
> > already running
> >
> > When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
> > the full server output, not just the last messages
> >
> > _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> > giving up.
> > xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server
> > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.
> >
> >
=============================================================================
> >
> > I am running kernel 2.2.0pre9 on an HP Vectra VL5/166MMX machine.
> > The monitor says Hewlett Packard Ultra VGA1280, but I am not sure who
> > really makes it.
> >
> > I tried a few things like making sure 'gpm' is not running, and trying
> > to run 'startx' as normal and root user. But nothing seems to work.
> >
> > Can someone help? Thanks, and please email.
>
> **** Please remove the NO.SPAM when replying ****
>
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From: Ali Bharmal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turning 'ping' off, please help.
Date: 26 Feb 1999 21:43:49 GMT
Chad M. Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I _do not_ want my computers to return a ping (besides turning them off)
> how to I disable ping?
Firewall them or diable the UDP port (7 IIRC). How you do the latter is a
little beyond me.
--
Me
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From: Dmitriy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to automate server log on ?
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:29:13 GMT
Apparently you don't :)
There are settings in the registry that will allow NT to log on
automatically, when computer restarts, without prompting you to enter
user ID and password.
I just wonder if this feature is available in Linux. Or else how the
hell are you going to run a network?
What do you do when a Linux computer resets (or being reset by something
like the Watch Dog) at 2 AM ? Drive to work
to enter user name and password?
Thanks again :)
If you need any help on NT let me know :)
Dmitriy
Ambrose Li wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Dmitriy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi, I am trying to set up a Linux server, Red Hat 5.2, and I need to be
> >able to let the server come up after it was rebooted by the watch dog
> >and log on automatically, just like NT does.
>
> What do yo mean by to "log on automatically"? NT servers don't "log on
> automatically" either as far as I know :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Send me to Linux]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 00:18:13 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Richard Vosburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>I understand Linux OS is available at no cost. Please point me in the
>right direction to download the latest version. If I'm mistaken, about
>the no cost availability, let me know; where to go for downloads and
>who's version is best (i.e. Caldera, Redhat, etc.).
If you really want to download it (not the easiest way to install it by
any means), a good place to grab various distributions is here:
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions
I would recommend installing it from CD-ROM myself, but if you want to
explose yourself to inordinate amounts of adventure, I guess you're
welcome to do so. :-)
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
The pain pill didn't work; I feel great.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Killing Zombie Processes
Date: 2 Mar 1999 06:46:37 GMT
>On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 04:13:59 GMT,
> William T. Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I tried eveything I could think of to "kill" it,
>> such as finding the process ID and issuing
>> "kill xxxx" as root. Nothing worked.
>> In the end, I actually had to reboot.
killall -9 netscape-communicator
or
killall -9 netscape-navigator
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Netscape icon defunct
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 06:30:58 GMT
I'm relatively new to Linux and even newer to KDE(i just installed Mandrake
5.2).The problem is when i installed Corel Wordperfect personal edition,it
seems to have (somehow) knocked out my Netscape desktop icon.It now gives me
the kfm warning "could not execute program netscape".I did the 'chmod o+rwx
netscape-communicator' song n'dance,which now allows me to execute the
netscape-communicator file(in the netscape dir)non-root,but it did'nt fix the
icon.Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick V. Heitkamp)
Subject: Re: Upgrade to libc6
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Mar 1999 12:50:54 GMT
Fung Wai Keung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,
:
: I'm using RedHat 4.2 (ie. with libc5 C library). I'm planning to
: upgrade my C library to libc6. Where can I download all the necessary rpm
: packages for the upgrade so that my system will run smoothly? I heard
: that there will be problems in utmp/wtmp when programs that access the
: utmp/wtmp file and have mismatch libc are run. How to avoid this problem
: during the migration to libc6? Is it necessary to upgrade my gcc compiler
: and binutils for the libc upgrade?
Yes. You have to upgrade many files if you want to use glibc-2.0 or
glibc-2.1 as your primary libs. Believe me it is a *major* pain to
upgrade from libc-5 to libc-6. First have a resque partition,
because you will not be able to boot you new installation. What I
did was make a cross compiler libc-5 to libc-6. You have to compile
the glibc-2.1 sources first. After doing that (and I left out a lot
of steps) You have to compile critical system files either static
or with your cross compiler or you system may not boot. These files
are like bash, login, getty, init, ls, ln, and others.
There may be an easier way. I'm pretty dumb about UNIX and Linux so
I assume there is. One other way I'm aware of but did not try is
to use glibc-2.1 as the secondary library installed in /usr/local/.
Then it is possible to compile new binaries against them. I guess
once you get critical system files recompile, you could convert
the secondary library to your primary library.
Probably best to get a glibc-2.1 based distribution and start over.
--
Fred
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