Linux-Misc Digest #261, Volume #21 Mon, 2 Aug 99 13:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Bay Area GNU Picnic, August 14 at Lake Temescal (Richard Stallman)
sendmail (Robert Wolfe)
Re: Just a suggestion... (Jim McIntyre)
OpenMail to Support Linux; Free Beta Version Now Available for Download (Richi
Jennings)
MCA & Zip drive (Mark Mykkanen)
Re: brain teaser (William Wueppelmann)
bashrc help (lawrence ta-wei lu)
Re: currencies (Matthias Warkus)
No Autoconf 2.14 release (Ben Elliston)
Re: What I think of linux. (James Knott)
Re: bashrc help (Jim McIntyre)
mandrake bdflush warning! (Bart Locanthi)
Re: video editing on linux? (Vito DeFilippo)
Re: bashrc help ("Al @Work")
Re: What I think of linux. (James Knott)
Re: mandrake bdflush warning! (Eric Potter)
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From: Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.announce
Subject: Bay Area GNU Picnic, August 14 at Lake Temescal
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:06:55 -0600 (MDT)
[ Please repost this wherever you think is appropriate! ]
Bay Area GNU Picnic, August 14 at Lake Temescal (Oakland)
Who: People who like or work on the GNU system. Perhaps you.
What: A GNU picnic on the beach. With grill, music, and filking.
When: Saturday August 14 from noon to 5pm
Where: Lake Temescal. More precisely, ...
Lake Temescal is off Broadway Terrace in Oakland. Admission is charged
daily, at $2.50 for adults, and $1.50 for children from ages 1-15.
If driving, Take Hwy 24 from Oakland and take the Broadway exit. Cross
Broadway and continue straight on the frontage road, as if going onto Hwy
13. Lake Temescal Regional Park is on the right, and there is ample
signage.
There are two buses that go by Lake Temescal from downtown Oakland:
Bus 59 (catch it at 20th & Broadway, near the 19th St. BART station, or on
Oak St. outside the Lake Merritt BART station);
64 (catch it in front of the Rockridge BART station);
Ask the driver where to get off. It is approximately a half-mile walk into
the park from either bus stop.
Why: To have fun and get to know other people who use and work on GNU.
Smoking Policy: no smoking near the GNU Picnic site.
Software Policy: GPL
Please bring:
* Musical instruments. (ie. drums, flutes, and anything that makes a noise)
* Frisbies, kites, and other suitable toys.
* CDs and tapes to play.
* Blankets and towels for swimming.
* Food. Bring something you'd like to grill. Also bring another item
according to your last name. If your last name starts with:
- A through H, bring two quarts of a non-alcoholic beverage.
- I through P, bring cooked veggies or salad.
- Q through Z, bring dessert.
- a character from a foreign character set, bring some exotic
foreign edible.
- anything else, bring a dragon to grill the food. (If no one
brings a dragon, we'll use charcoal.)
Note: tabouli containing more cracked wheat than parsley is strictly
forbidden!
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Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:30:57 -0400
From: Robert Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sendmail
Does any one know if it is possible to setup a cron job that would
e-mail me a pgp encrypted file as an e-mail attachment every morning.
If this is possible does anyone know how to use sendmail as a command
line.
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From: Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just a suggestion...
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:01:05 +0000
Jeff Goodman wrote:
> Can we take the large number of postings in this (already very busy)
> newsgroup that relate to communism, philosophy, name-calling, etc., and
> not at all to Linux, and move them to a more appropriate forum? Just a
> suggestion...
>
> Jeff
Good idea. Ww don't need this stuff. I don't know who administers this
group, but it should be possible to block postings from any of the
offenders' e-mail addresses.
regards
Jim
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Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:10:08 +0100
From: Richi Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
hp.mail,hp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.dev.linuxnews,linux.largesites,linux.local.silicon-valley
Subject: OpenMail to Support Linux; Free Beta Version Now Available for Download
HP put out this press release today... /richi.
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OPENMAIL TO SUPPORT LINUX;
FREE BETA VERSION NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD
HP=92s Messaging/Collaboration Solution for the Linux Operating System i=
s
Proven, Robust and Fully Functional
PALO ALTO, Calif., Aug. 2, 1999 -- Hewlett-Packard Company today
announced that OpenMail 6.0, HP=92s strategic business-messaging and
collaboration solution for UNIX(R) system computers, also will support
the Linux operating system. By supporting Linux, OpenMail 6.0 will
provide its upgraded functionality and e-services(1) capabilities to the
growing number of Linux-based businesses, offering a low-cost
alternative to other enterprise-messaging solutions.
HP expects OpenMail for Linux to be available in September. A free beta
version is available now on the Internet at www.hp.com/go/openmail.
=93HP believes that many Linux-based businesses need the type of proven
enterprise capabilities that today=92s OpenMail customers enjoy,=94 said
Nigel Upton, general manager of HP=92s OpenMail business. =93OpenMail giv=
es
the Linux community a compelling alternative to =91generic=92 Internet
e-mail servers.=94
OpenMail: Proven Capabilities and Robust Functionality
In addition to robust Internet e-mail-standards support, the Linux
edition of OpenMail will include rich support for Microsoft(R) Outlook
(including full wide-area calendar/schedule access) and OpenMail 6.0=92s
new Web client.
As the only non-Microsoft server that supports the rich scheduling and
collaboration functionality of Microsoft Outlook, HP=92s OpenMail 6.0 is =
a
unique solution.
HP showcased OpenMail=92s flexible and functionally rich Web-based
technology at the 1998 World Cup soccer tournament. One OpenMail server
successfully provided communications for thousands of journalists and
officials across the tournament=92s wide-area intranet in France.
Why Linux?
=93As the credibility and popularity of Linux continues to increase, HP
wants to provide customers running this operating system with our
premier business-messaging product for UNIX systems,=94 said Upton.
=93Uniting the power of OpenMail with the growing strength of Linux
provides a compelling new solution for businesses to deploy
cost-effective yet robust messaging.=94
This announcement is part of HP=92s strategic vision to take the lead as =
a
provider of Linux and open-source solutions for the deployment of
Web/e-mail/infrastructure servers. HP expects strong demand for
alternative system solutions and will provide continued development in
this area by promoting HP value-added features, support for the
open-source community and an excellent Linux hardware offering with the
HP NetServer line of Intel(R)-based servers. HP is a sponsoring
corporate member of Linux International, a non-profit organization
consisting of industry influencers dedicated to the continuous
open-source development of Linux.
About OpenMail
OpenMail is HP=92s strategic Linux and UNIX system business-messaging and=
collaboration solution, based on Internet standards. It is a proven,
robust technology for building e-services solutions, running on
HP-UX(2), Linux, AIX and Solaris. OpenMail has an installed base of more
than 11 million seats, with representation in 60 percent of the Fortune
1000. OpenMail is designed for the heterogeneous environments often
found in large enterprises and is used by many world-class businesses as
the core of their communications and e-services infrastructures.
More OpenMail information is available at on the Web at
http://www.hp.com/go/openmail.
About HP=92s Communications Industry Business Unit
HP is powering the communications industry by supplying communications
IT infrastructure to every Fortune 500 telecommunications company in the
world today. HP and its partners deliver management, network
intelligence, billing and customer-care solutions for UNIX and Windows
NT(R) system platforms, enabling service providers to migrate from
network- to customer-focused business models as the Internet and
telephony worlds converge. More information is available on the Web at
http://www.hp.com/telecom.
About HP
Hewlett-Packard Company -- a leading global provider of computing and
imaging solutions and services for business and home -- is focused on
capitalizing on the opportunities of the Internet and the proliferation
of electronic services.
HP had computer-related revenue of $39.5 billion in its 1998 fiscal
year. HP plans to launch a new company consisting of its
industry-leading test-and-measurement, semiconductor products,
chemical-analysis and medical businesses. These businesses represented
$7.6 billion of HP=92s total revenue in fiscal 1998. With leading
positions in multiple market segments, this technology-based company
will focus on opportunities such as communications and life sciences.
HP has 123,000 employees worldwide and had total revenue of $47.1
billion in its 1998 fiscal year. Information about HP, its products and
the company=92s Year 2000 program can be found on the World Wide Web at
http://www.hp.com.
# # #
(1) e-services -- HP envisions a world in which people and businesses
derive new value from the Internet by moving beyond Web-based access to
information to a world in which a rich array of nimble, modular
electronic services, e-services, are accessible by virtually anyone and
any device. HP has been working to solve the technical challenges that
such a world presents -- inventing the devices and technologies that
provide access, building the back-end systems that support the billions
of Internet transactions generated, and developing the software that
ensures information always is protected. The steward of distributed open
systems, HP understand how to build this new open-services marketplace
and will lead this next logical evolution of the Net, working closely
with world-class partners.
(2) HP-UX Release 10.20 and later and HP-UX Release 11.00 and later (in
both 32- and 64-bit configurations) on all HP 9000 computers are Open
Group UNIX 95 branded products.
UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group.
Microsoft is a U.S. registered trademark of Microsoft Corp.
Intel is a U.S. trademark of Intel Corp.
EDITORIAL CONTACTS:
Richi Jennings, HP
+44 (0) 1344-365870
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike Hulme
Copithorne & Bellows for HP
(415) 975-2267
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Mark Mykkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: MCA & Zip drive
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:10:47 -0500
I am trying to install linux on my old MCA 486 with an MCA SCSI hard
drive. I'd like to install linux using my zip drive but I have a slight
problem...
I am using Slackware's zipslack distribution which places linux on a
vfat partition on my zipdisk. I have two boot disks: one that has a
compiled kernel with the appropriate settings for the ppa zip drive, but
not MCA bus drivers, and the other boot disk has the MCA device drivers
but not for the ppa zip drive.
How do I create a bootdisk that has both MCA and ppa zip and can boot off
my root vfat partition on the zip disk?
Is there a way to take apart a compiled kernel just to find out how it is
configured?
- Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: brain teaser
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 14:33:19 GMT
In our last episode (Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:27:03 -0500),
the artist formerly known as Jeff Trisoliere said:
>What is the most commonly used MS-DOS command? Hint it's still used in
>Windows NT and does not work at the Netware server console. Hint 2: This
>command is also available in Linux, the command does a different
>function in NT as it does in DOS or Linux and this command can be
>disabled in Linux.
Ctrl+Alt+Del
--
It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lawrence ta-wei lu)
Subject: bashrc help
Date: 2 Aug 1999 15:18:46 GMT
HI,
I need some help with my bashrc file. I have it in root's home directory
as .bashrc and I have 1 line of code in there that will set the prompt.
I think the command is right, but when I log in the prompt has not changed.
I have the permissions set for 700 but nothing happens. Do I need to
explicity tell bash to look at this file?
--
"Better than a thousand men is a man with intelligence"
**********************************************************************
* Lawrence Lu * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: currencies
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:51:13 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 1 Aug 1999 22:27:02 -0500...
..and Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> <BS removed>
>
> The bottom line is that everyone around the world worship our
> money. Your bitching about it ain't gonna change a thing.
>
> And best of all we rule the world, wether you like it or not.
Of course. After all, you
> have software, food, music, news, search,
> history, electronics and genealogy pages.
How could we possibly beat that?
mawa
--
Every problem in our life demands intelligence to be solved. Why do
people insist on computers not needing intelligence to be set up, used
and maintained?
-- mawa
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From: Ben Elliston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.announce,gnu.utils.bug,alt.sources.d
Subject: No Autoconf 2.14 release
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:23:40 -0400 (EDT)
The timeframe for sending this message is probably about right, given that
the last release of Autoconf was almost 8 months ago. Soon after the
release back in January, I made the mistake of incrementing the version
number to 2.14 and starting work on the next release.
At some point, someone decided that this meant that the version in the CVS
repository was the official 2.14 release, tar'ed it up and made a fake
Autoconf 2.14 release. :-( Unless an announcement is sent to
gnu.announce, it's probably best to assume that there has not been a new
release of any GNU package.
The purpose of this messagem, then, is to announce that this snapshot
which is being distributed is probably not worth using and that there will
NOT be an Autoconf version 2.14. You can probably guess what the next
version number will be, but if I say what it is, I bet someone out
there will be sitting at a `tar cf ..' command line, waiting. :-)
Ben
[ FSF: This is a good point - if you don't see a release announcement
here, and no new version is on our ftp.gnu.org/gnu/ ftp site - there
probably hasn't been a new official GNU release. It is perfectly
legal for people to redistribute GNU software, including development
versions, but please be aware that a non-official version could be
less stable and is not recommended by the Project GNU for general
use. ]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:35:22 -0400
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Hanson) wrote:
>Hey, those blinking lights served a valuable function! They made the computer
>spokesperson standing in front of them giving an interview look really
>important. Almost as good as standing in front of those banks of tape drives.
Several years ago, a television crew came to our computer center to
get some shots. They didn't think a tape drive running real
applications looked busy enough, so we fired up some diagnostics, to
give them something to show. ;-)
--
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.
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From: Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bashrc help
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 15:58:13 +0000
lawrence ta-wei lu wrote:
> HI,
>
> I need some help with my bashrc file. I have it in root's home directory
> as .bashrc and I have 1 line of code in there that will set the prompt.
> I think the command is right, but when I log in the prompt has not changed.
> I have the permissions set for 700 but nothing happens. Do I need to
> explicity tell bash to look at this file?
>
> --
> "Better than a thousand men is a man with intelligence"
>
> **********************************************************************
> * Lawrence Lu * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
Try putting the same command in /etc/profile.
Jim
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From: Bart Locanthi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: mandrake bdflush warning!
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 09:29:31 -0400
while being an otherwise fine distribution, it appears that mandrake 6.0
somehow leaves out the bdflush daemon.
this is a very serious omission, since it means that a mandrake system
could have days or weeks old data sitting in buffer caches unwritten to
disk.
several people have experienced "linux fragility" as a result. any
unplanned reboot can lose *major* parts of the filesystem.
there are many trivial fixes, eg a crontab entry to run /bin/sync every
minute:
*/1 * * * * /bin/sync
of course having a working bdflush is the best solution - i don't see
anything relevant on the linux-mandrake site..
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From: Vito DeFilippo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: video editing on linux?
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:31:23 GMT
Broadcast2000beta is still available for download at freshmeat.net
"R.K.Aa" wrote:
>
> John Guillory wrote:
> >
> > Is there a video editing software like Premier or Avid for Linux?
>
> An URL i visit now and then is http://www.exploits.org/v4l/
>
> Follow the link to Broadcast2000 - it's an odd story however and the app
> itself not available for the moment. It may be again though, and perhaps
> you can still find the beta other places.
>
> K.
>
> --
> -- To E-mail, delete "spam" --
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From: "Al @Work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bashrc help
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:24:19 -0400
lawrence ta-wei lu wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> I need some help with my bashrc file. I have it in root's home directory
> as .bashrc and I have 1 line of code in there that will set the prompt.
> I think the command is right, but when I log in the prompt has not changed.
> I have the permissions set for 700 but nothing happens. Do I need to
> explicity tell bash to look at this file?
>
> --
> "Better than a thousand men is a man with intelligence"
>
> **********************************************************************
> * Lawrence Lu * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
Lawrence,
On my RH 6.0 system, I use the /etc/bashrc file to change the system
wide prompt. Here is mine:
pc3368[ajarvi]:~:$ pg /etc/bashrc
# /etc/bashrc
# System wide functions and aliases
# Environment stuff goes in /etc/profile
# For some unknown reason bash refuses to inherit
# PS1 in some circumstances that I can't figure out.
# Putting PS1 here ensures that it gets loaded every time.
# Modified 9 July 1999...awj
#PS1="[\u@\h \W]\\$ "
PS1="\h[\u]:\w:\\$ "
pc3368[ajarvi]:~:$
Good luck...
Al
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:24:55 -0400
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Hanson) wrote:
>51 here. My first was a Radio Shack PC-2 (still around here someplace), then an
>Atari 8-bit. I got rid of my old Byte mags finally, but the first was sometime
>in 1977 (I think).
I have *EVERY* issue of Byte. The first was Sept 1975. I purchased
the first 3 issues from the original publisher, Wayne Green. He also
published 73 Magazine for amateur radio and had a table at the 1975
Radio Society of Ontario convention.
>>How many are over 40 and grew up in a generation that computers DIDN'T exist?
>
>Yep, saw it all happen. I was around when magazine editorials fretted about the
>awful cassette tape storage and wished for the promised floppy disk. I saw ads
>for the Altair with those front panel switches.
My first computer was an IMSAI 8080, which was a (better built) clone
of the Altair. I also struggled with cassettes.
--
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Potter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: mandrake bdflush warning!
Date: 2 Aug 1999 16:47:18 GMT
Bart Locanthi enlightened this group thus:
> while being an otherwise fine distribution, it appears that mandrake 6.0
> somehow leaves out the bdflush daemon.
>
> this is a very serious omission, since it means that a mandrake system
> could have days or weeks old data sitting in buffer caches unwritten to
> disk.
>
> several people have experienced "linux fragility" as a result. any
> unplanned reboot can lose *major* parts of the filesystem.
>
> there are many trivial fixes, eg a crontab entry to run /bin/sync every
>minute:
>
> */1 * * * * /bin/sync
>
> of course having a working bdflush is the best solution - i don't see
> anything relevant on the linux-mandrake site..
They fixed this with the initscripts update.
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