Linux-Misc Digest #261, Volume #25               Fri, 28 Jul 00 12:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why? (Elliott)
  Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why? (Elliott)
  Re: How to run Disk Druid? (Robert Lynch)
  Oh no! (Ken Knecht)
  Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why? (Hakan Erdogan)
  Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake? ("1$Worth")
  Re: Slackware  7.1   asks for Disk A, B , C , D .... during install  ? (Dewey Chan)
  Re: Oh no! (Robert Lynch)
  Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Slackware  7.1   asks for Disk A, B , C , D .... during install  ? (Hexdump)
  Re: Oh no! (Prasanth A. Kumar)

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From: Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux
Subject: Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:10:23 GMT

Ok. I tried the settings that you gave me, and I still get the same error,
only now the machine pauses for ever on semdmail, so I turned sendmail off.
Anyway, linux is not very fun with out an internet connection.... Here is what
I know about my ether net card (printed from some program in windoze...):

xE800 - xE8FF Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter

IRQ 10 Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
IRQ 10 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
IRQ 10 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
IRQ 10 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering

xEA800000 - xEA8000FF Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter



 Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
    Net
    Registry Key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_11AD&DEV_C115&SUBSYS_C00111AD&REV_25\BUS_00&DEV_0A&FUNC_00

    Alloc resources:                                Logical Configuration 0
    IRQ:                                            10 Mask: xFFFF
    IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
    Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
    Forced resources:                               None
    Boot resources:                                 None
    Filtered resources:                             Logical Configuration 0
    IRQ:                                            10 Mask: xFFFF
    IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
    Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
    Basic resources:                                Logical Configuration 0
    IRQ:                                            0 Mask: xFFFF
    IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
    Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
    HW Revision:                                    037
    Driver:                                         Net\0002
    Driver Date:                                     2- 9-1999
    Driver:                                         LNE100TX.sys
                                                    File Size: 32768 (0x8000)
                                                    File Date: 12/17/1998 10:3
PM
                                                    Company Name: Linksys
Group, Inc.
                                                    File Version: 4.20

  Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
    Original Configuration Mon Aug 28 10:10:23 2000 to Date
    Alloc resources:                                Logical Configuration 0
    IRQ:                                            10 Mask: xFFFF
    IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
    Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
    Driver:                                         LNE100TX.sys 12/17/1998
10:3 PM Size: 32768


LNE100TX 4.20 Linksys Group, Inc. Linksys LNE100TX NDIS 3.1 Driver
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\LNE100TX.sys Plug and Play NT driver Linksys LNE100TX Fast
Ethernet Driver

>From what I have read in another reply, I need to disable the PNP OS in my
bios setup. Well, it was allready disabled. But there is a whole lota stuff in
there... any ideas?
thanks!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or newsgroups.


"Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" wrote:

> Elliott wrote:
> >
> > I just installed a new hard drive and now have two drives, we have
> > windows on one and linux on the other (redhat 6.1) it dualboots fine. In
> > windoze the ethernet card works fine and uses dhcp to grab it's IP
> > address. In redhat however when it boots up I get a message that says
> > eth0: Delaying Initialization or something like that. I when I type ifup
> > eth0 we get the same message.
> >
> > Help.
> >
> > I am trying to do dhcp remember...
> >  thank you
> >
> > You can email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi,
>
> The message 'Delaying Initialization' usually means that the card is not
> being found. You didn't say what type of card it is.
>
> Check /etc/conf.modules to see what eth0 is aliased as...
>
> [root@phard1e0 net]# cat /etc/conf.modules
> alias eth0 3c59x
> ..snip..
>
> in my case
>
> For some NIC (such as NE2000 clones) you need to give it a hint by
> specifying base i/o address
> eg
>
> alias eth0 io=0x300 (or whatever).
>
> If you don't know what this is then get hold of the diagnostic disk that
> come with most NICs and switch off pnp mode on the card (put in
> 'jumperless' mode) and set the base address/irq manually. Normally if
> you give the base address correctly the driver can figure out the irq
> for itself. You will normally need to use a DOS boot disk to run these
> diagnostic programs.
>
> I would pull the plug on the internet link and try to bring the card up
> manually. The configuration is in
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
>
> Copy this file to a safe place and then change the BOOTPROTO variable to
> BOOTPROTO=static and setp up a static address (from the non-routable
> series)...
>
> DEVICE=eth0
> BOOTPROTO=static
> BROADCAST=10.0.0.255
> IPADDR=10.0.0.1
> NETMASK=255.255.255.0
> NETWORK=10.0.0.0
> ONBOOT=yes
>
> You can use 'ifup eth0' 'ifdown eth0' to bring the inteface up & down.
> Once the driver module loads (use lsmod to see what modules you have
> loaded) you will need to use 'rmmod' to remove it.
>
> Once working you can restore your ifcfg-eth0 original and all should be
> well..
>
> HTH
>
> Regards
>
> Phil Q
>
> --
>
> Phil Quiney                             CSIP Demonstrator
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]              Nortel Networks,
> Telephone: +44 (1279) 402363            London Rd, Harlow,
> Fax:       +44 (1279) 402885            Essex CM17 9NA,
>                                         United Kingdom.
>
> "This message may contain information proprietary to Northern
> Telecom so any unauthorised disclosure, copying or distribution
> of its contents is strictly prohibited."


------------------------------

From: Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux
Subject: Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:10:48 GMT

Ok. I tried the settings that you gave me, and I still get the same error,
only now the machine pauses for ever on semdmail, so I turned sendmail off.
Anyway, linux is not very fun with out an internet connection.... Here is what
I know about my ether net card (printed from some program in windoze...):

xE800 - xE8FF Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter

IRQ 10 Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
IRQ 10 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
IRQ 10 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
IRQ 10 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering

xEA800000 - xEA8000FF Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter



 Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
    Net
    Registry Key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_11AD&DEV_C115&SUBSYS_C00111AD&REV_25\BUS_00&DEV_0A&FUNC_00

    Alloc resources:                                Logical Configuration 0
    IRQ:                                            10 Mask: xFFFF
    IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
    Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
    Forced resources:                               None
    Boot resources:                                 None
    Filtered resources:                             Logical Configuration 0
    IRQ:                                            10 Mask: xFFFF
    IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
    Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
    Basic resources:                                Logical Configuration 0
    IRQ:                                            0 Mask: xFFFF
    IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
    Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
    HW Revision:                                    037
    Driver:                                         Net\0002
    Driver Date:                                     2- 9-1999
    Driver:                                         LNE100TX.sys
                                                    File Size: 32768 (0x8000)
                                                    File Date: 12/17/1998 10:3
PM
                                                    Company Name: Linksys
Group, Inc.
                                                    File Version: 4.20

  Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
    Original Configuration Mon Aug 28 10:10:23 2000 to Date
    Alloc resources:                                Logical Configuration 0
    IRQ:                                            10 Mask: xFFFF
    IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
    Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
    Driver:                                         LNE100TX.sys 12/17/1998
10:3 PM Size: 32768


LNE100TX 4.20 Linksys Group, Inc. Linksys LNE100TX NDIS 3.1 Driver
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\LNE100TX.sys Plug and Play NT driver Linksys LNE100TX Fast
Ethernet Driver

>From what I have read in another reply, I need to disable the PNP OS in my
bios setup. Well, it was allready disabled. But there is a whole lota stuff in
there... any ideas?
thanks!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or newsgroups.


"Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" wrote:

> Elliott wrote:
> >
> > I just installed a new hard drive and now have two drives, we have
> > windows on one and linux on the other (redhat 6.1) it dualboots fine. In
> > windoze the ethernet card works fine and uses dhcp to grab it's IP
> > address. In redhat however when it boots up I get a message that says
> > eth0: Delaying Initialization or something like that. I when I type ifup
> > eth0 we get the same message.
> >
> > Help.
> >
> > I am trying to do dhcp remember...
> >  thank you
> >
> > You can email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi,
>
> The message 'Delaying Initialization' usually means that the card is not
> being found. You didn't say what type of card it is.
>
> Check /etc/conf.modules to see what eth0 is aliased as...
>
> [root@phard1e0 net]# cat /etc/conf.modules
> alias eth0 3c59x
> ..snip..
>
> in my case
>
> For some NIC (such as NE2000 clones) you need to give it a hint by
> specifying base i/o address
> eg
>
> alias eth0 io=0x300 (or whatever).
>
> If you don't know what this is then get hold of the diagnostic disk that
> come with most NICs and switch off pnp mode on the card (put in
> 'jumperless' mode) and set the base address/irq manually. Normally if
> you give the base address correctly the driver can figure out the irq
> for itself. You will normally need to use a DOS boot disk to run these
> diagnostic programs.
>
> I would pull the plug on the internet link and try to bring the card up
> manually. The configuration is in
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
>
> Copy this file to a safe place and then change the BOOTPROTO variable to
> BOOTPROTO=static and setp up a static address (from the non-routable
> series)...
>
> DEVICE=eth0
> BOOTPROTO=static
> BROADCAST=10.0.0.255
> IPADDR=10.0.0.1
> NETMASK=255.255.255.0
> NETWORK=10.0.0.0
> ONBOOT=yes
>
> You can use 'ifup eth0' 'ifdown eth0' to bring the inteface up & down.
> Once the driver module loads (use lsmod to see what modules you have
> loaded) you will need to use 'rmmod' to remove it.
>
> Once working you can restore your ifcfg-eth0 original and all should be
> well..
>
> HTH
>
> Regards
>
> Phil Q
>
> --
>
> Phil Quiney                             CSIP Demonstrator
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]              Nortel Networks,
> Telephone: +44 (1279) 402363            London Rd, Harlow,
> Fax:       +44 (1279) 402885            Essex CM17 9NA,
>                                         United Kingdom.
>
> "This message may contain information proprietary to Northern
> Telecom so any unauthorised disclosure, copying or distribution
> of its contents is strictly prohibited."


------------------------------

From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to run Disk Druid?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:26:19 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

GL wrote:
> 
> I'm using Linux 6.2 with a bash text shell. How do I run Disk Druid?
> I've only seen it on the installer but I'd like to mess around with
> some of my partitions without using "fdisk". Is this even possibile or
> is Disk Druid for installing ONLY?? Thanks
> 
> --
>   ---Please E-MAIL all replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

I researched this recently for someone with the same question, and found
that Disk Druid can not be called from the command line.  However,
several postings I ran across included people who regularly run the
install CD, use Disk Druid, then quit.  Carefully.

HTH. Bob L.
-- 
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Knecht)
Subject: Oh no!
Date: 28 Jul 2000 15:28:00 GMT

I read, in _Linux Journal_ (August 2000) in an article _Writing 
a Java Class to Manage RPM Package Content_ by Jean-Yves 
Mengant, the following:

"As time goes on, you will add some new components to your Linux 
system, and that's where the nightmare may begin. A Linux system 
is composed of hundreds of components and dynamic libraries. In 
order to keep your system up and running, you should be careful 
since installing a new version of a component may introduce 
incompatibilities in your system, making it more unstable as 
time goes on."

Sound familiar? Linux has a 'DLL hell' too? That's what I'm 
switching to Linux to get away from! Will there never be peace?

Comments?

Ken

------------------------------

From: Hakan Erdogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux
Subject: Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:29:50 -0400

Here is how my problem with the same card solved. I also get the sendmail pause
thing (still).
First, my question is do you use loadlin to load linux or lilo? I used to use loadlin 
and it
did not work. My guess is that windows plays with the PCI bios or something so that 
the driver
(tulip.o) could not detect the card correctly. There is a program tulip-diag.c that  is
supposed to diagnose the problem. When I ran it, it was saying that PCI bios does not 
show
correct IRQ or something. You can also try it. When I used a boot disk, the driver 
worked
correctly!!! Also, you need the latest version of tulip.c to detect LinkSys card and 
compile
it. After loading the module, check the messages with dmesg and see if the driver is 
loading
properly with the correct IRQ and everything. Good luck. Then I guess ifup should work.

Elliott wrote:

> Ok. I tried the settings that you gave me, and I still get the same error,
> only now the machine pauses for ever on semdmail, so I turned sendmail off.
> Anyway, linux is not very fun with out an internet connection.... Here is what
> I know about my ether net card (printed from some program in windoze...):
>
> xE800 - xE8FF Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
>
> IRQ 10 Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
> IRQ 10 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
> IRQ 10 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
> IRQ 10 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
>
> xEA800000 - xEA8000FF Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
>
>  Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
>     Net
>     Registry Key:
> 
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_11AD&DEV_C115&SUBSYS_C00111AD&REV_25\BUS_00&DEV_0A&FUNC_00
>
>     Alloc resources:                                Logical Configuration 0
>     IRQ:                                            10 Mask: xFFFF
>     IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
> Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
>     Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
> xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
>     Forced resources:                               None
>     Boot resources:                                 None
>     Filtered resources:                             Logical Configuration 0
>     IRQ:                                            10 Mask: xFFFF
>     IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
> Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
>     Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
> xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
>     Basic resources:                                Logical Configuration 0
>     IRQ:                                            0 Mask: xFFFF
>     IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
> Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
>     Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
> xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
>     HW Revision:                                    037
>     Driver:                                         Net\0002
>     Driver Date:                                     2- 9-1999
>     Driver:                                         LNE100TX.sys
>                                                     File Size: 32768 (0x8000)
>                                                     File Date: 12/17/1998 10:3
> PM
>                                                     Company Name: Linksys
> Group, Inc.
>                                                     File Version: 4.20
>
>   Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
>     Original Configuration Mon Aug 28 10:10:23 2000 to Date
>     Alloc resources:                                Logical Configuration 0
>     IRQ:                                            10 Mask: xFFFF
>     IO Range:                                       Base=xE800 End=xE8FF
> Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF  Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
>     Memory Address Range:                           Base= xEA800000 End=
> xEA8000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
>     Driver:                                         LNE100TX.sys 12/17/1998
> 10:3 PM Size: 32768
>
> LNE100TX 4.20 Linksys Group, Inc. Linksys LNE100TX NDIS 3.1 Driver
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\LNE100TX.sys Plug and Play NT driver Linksys LNE100TX Fast
> Ethernet Driver
>
> From what I have read in another reply, I need to disable the PNP OS in my
> bios setup. Well, it was allready disabled. But there is a whole lota stuff in
> there... any ideas?
> thanks!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or newsgroups.
>
> "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" wrote:
>
> > Elliott wrote:
> > >
> > > I just installed a new hard drive and now have two drives, we have
> > > windows on one and linux on the other (redhat 6.1) it dualboots fine. In
> > > windoze the ethernet card works fine and uses dhcp to grab it's IP
> > > address. In redhat however when it boots up I get a message that says
> > > eth0: Delaying Initialization or something like that. I when I type ifup
> > > eth0 we get the same message.
> > >
> > > Help.
> > >
> > > I am trying to do dhcp remember...
> > >  thank you
> > >
> > > You can email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Hi,
> >
> > The message 'Delaying Initialization' usually means that the card is not
> > being found. You didn't say what type of card it is.
> >
> > Check /etc/conf.modules to see what eth0 is aliased as...
> >
> > [root@phard1e0 net]# cat /etc/conf.modules
> > alias eth0 3c59x
> > ..snip..
> >
> > in my case
> >
> > For some NIC (such as NE2000 clones) you need to give it a hint by
> > specifying base i/o address
> > eg
> >
> > alias eth0 io=0x300 (or whatever).
> >
> > If you don't know what this is then get hold of the diagnostic disk that
> > come with most NICs and switch off pnp mode on the card (put in
> > 'jumperless' mode) and set the base address/irq manually. Normally if
> > you give the base address correctly the driver can figure out the irq
> > for itself. You will normally need to use a DOS boot disk to run these
> > diagnostic programs.
> >
> > I would pull the plug on the internet link and try to bring the card up
> > manually. The configuration is in
> > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> >
> > Copy this file to a safe place and then change the BOOTPROTO variable to
> > BOOTPROTO=static and setp up a static address (from the non-routable
> > series)...
> >
> > DEVICE=eth0
> > BOOTPROTO=static
> > BROADCAST=10.0.0.255
> > IPADDR=10.0.0.1
> > NETMASK=255.255.255.0
> > NETWORK=10.0.0.0
> > ONBOOT=yes
> >
> > You can use 'ifup eth0' 'ifdown eth0' to bring the inteface up & down.
> > Once the driver module loads (use lsmod to see what modules you have
> > loaded) you will need to use 'rmmod' to remove it.
> >
> > Once working you can restore your ifcfg-eth0 original and all should be
> > well..
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Phil Q
> >
> > --
> >
> > Phil Quiney                             CSIP Demonstrator
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]              Nortel Networks,
> > Telephone: +44 (1279) 402363            London Rd, Harlow,
> > Fax:       +44 (1279) 402885            Essex CM17 9NA,
> >                                         United Kingdom.
> >
> > "This message may contain information proprietary to Northern
> > Telecom so any unauthorised disclosure, copying or distribution
> > of its contents is strictly prohibited."


------------------------------

From: "1$Worth" <"1$Worth"@costreduction.plseremove.screaming.net>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:41:45 +0100

Cap'n wrote:
> 
> I'll admit I'm somewhat of a newbie to Mandrake Linux,
> and this is probably a stupid question...but, I need the
> answer.
> 
> I just installed Mandrake 7.1 on my system in a dual boot with
> Win98. My hard drive is in four partitions:
> 
> Partition 1:  Win98 system files (1.5 GB) - hdc1
> Partition 2:  Win98 programs (8 GB) - hdc2
> Partition 3:  Linux Swap (133 MB) - hdc6
> Partition 4:  Linux Native: Mandrake Distro (2.3 GB) - hdc7
> 
> After I installed Mandrake and LILO, Linux is the first
> boot option and loads Mandrake after 10 seconds,
> unless I type Windows. I want to set it up so that Windows
> boots after 10 seconds, unless I type Linux.
> 
> What's the easiest way to change this in Mandrake? Or
> if someone could point me to a Mandrake HOWTO Web link
> for this, I would appreciate it.

you can edit /etc/lilo.conf and then run lilo and Bobs your Uncle
(change the default).

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dewey Chan)
Subject: Re: Slackware  7.1   asks for Disk A, B , C , D .... during install  ?
Date: 28 Jul 2000 15:33:31 GMT

In article <8lrflq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, tvn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I 've downloaded and  tried to installed slack 7.1 but during the
>installation , it keeps asking for somekind of cd (or disc)  A, B , D , E ,
>....
>
>I don't know what those are so I skipped all of it and the result is I can't
>boot to slack after the installation .

Read the documents at http://www.slackware.com/install/ 
You will need at the very least, A (base system).

dc

------------------------------

From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oh no!
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:47:36 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ken Knecht wrote:
> 
> I read, in _Linux Journal_ (August 2000) in an article _Writing
> a Java Class to Manage RPM Package Content_ by Jean-Yves
> Mengant, the following:
> 
> "As time goes on, you will add some new components to your Linux
> system, and that's where the nightmare may begin. A Linux system
> is composed of hundreds of components and dynamic libraries. In
> order to keep your system up and running, you should be careful
> since installing a new version of a component may introduce
> incompatibilities in your system, making it more unstable as
> time goes on."
> 
> Sound familiar? Linux has a 'DLL hell' too? That's what I'm
> switching to Linux to get away from! Will there never be peace?
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Ken

I think we've all had some problems with RPM's.  I've heard, and
probably others will confirm, that the Debian package system is more
careful about checking dependencies.

Unfortunately, I got running RedHat early on, and like it, and am too
lazy to switch to Debian.  If this worries you, you might consider doing
this...

HTH. Bob L.
-- 
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:39:53 GMT

You need to edit the file /etc/lilo.conf to make your windoze partition
the default, either

default=dos

or put the section in this file relating to windose above the section
relating to Linux.

Save /etc/lilo.conf to disk, then run /sbin/lilo.

HTH

Richard


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cap'n) wrote:
>
> I'll admit I'm somewhat of a newbie to Mandrake Linux,
> and this is probably a stupid question...but, I need the
> answer.
>
> I just installed Mandrake 7.1 on my system in a dual boot with
> Win98. My hard drive is in four partitions:
>
> Partition 1:  Win98 system files (1.5 GB) - hdc1
> Partition 2:  Win98 programs (8 GB) - hdc2
> Partition 3:  Linux Swap (133 MB) - hdc6
> Partition 4:  Linux Native: Mandrake Distro (2.3 GB) - hdc7
>
> After I installed Mandrake and LILO, Linux is the first
> boot option and loads Mandrake after 10 seconds,
> unless I type Windows. I want to set it up so that Windows
> boots after 10 seconds, unless I type Linux.
>
> What's the easiest way to change this in Mandrake? Or
> if someone could point me to a Mandrake HOWTO Web link
> for this, I would appreciate it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> *** The Cap'n ****
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hexdump)
Subject: Re: Slackware  7.1   asks for Disk A, B , C , D .... during install  ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:53:47 GMT

On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:21:04 -0400, tvn wrote:
>
>I 've downloaded and  tried to installed slack 7.1 but during the
>installation , it keeps asking for somekind of cd (or disc)  A, B , D , E ,
>....
>
>I don't know what those are so I skipped all of it and the result is I can't
>boot to slack after the installation .
>
>
>Any hints ?

Those things you skipped were the various parts of the operating system
and system software. No surprise then that it didn't boot after
"installation".

Hexdump
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Subject: Re: Oh no!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:01:20 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Knecht) writes:

> I read, in _Linux Journal_ (August 2000) in an article _Writing 
> a Java Class to Manage RPM Package Content_ by Jean-Yves 
> Mengant, the following:
> 
> "As time goes on, you will add some new components to your Linux 
> system, and that's where the nightmare may begin. A Linux system 
> is composed of hundreds of components and dynamic libraries. In 
> order to keep your system up and running, you should be careful 
> since installing a new version of a component may introduce 
> incompatibilities in your system, making it more unstable as 
> time goes on."
> 
> Sound familiar? Linux has a 'DLL hell' too? That's what I'm 
> switching to Linux to get away from! Will there never be peace?
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Ken

A few differences from the Windows DLL are that:

1) You can install multiple versions of a library at the same time and
compile programs to a particular version.

2) RPMS do check for version numbers during install

3) RPM keep better track of files during install and uninstall so you
   don't have to get a ever expanding collection of files.

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
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