Linux-Misc Digest #264, Volume #19 Tue, 2 Mar 99 15:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Win 98 not to loose the docs. but want Dual boot w/ linux ("Dennis J. Sylvester")
Re: Printer Accounting (Birger Blixt)
Epson Stylus 640 driver (Jeff Letendre)
Re: Public license question (brian moore)
Re: Massive LinuxWorld Bash following Linus's Keynote in San Jose (jas shultz)
Re: how many loopback-dev? (Kent Robotti)
Re: how to automate server log on ? (Michael Eastman)
Newbie question: how to apply a .diff patch? (Ian)
Using 2 versions of GCC (Linus Nuber)
Re: Killing Zombie Processes ("David W. Robinson")
Re: how to automate server log on ? (Michael Eastman)
Install hangs on "idle process cannot sleep" (David H. Copp)
Re: Linux Collective (Jose Urena)
Re: Can Linux run on NT for stability? ("JACK")
error message at boot ("Gavin Maxwell")
Re: CD-RW (jik-)
FD size issue ("Thijs Cobben")
Re: PnP & Yamaha OPL-SA: Can't find it... (Todd Ostermeier)
Linux Collective ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [Fwd: Send me to Linux] (jas shultz)
Re: which Linux distribution? (Craig McCluskey)
Re: Help! My printer won't print at all! (Youngser Park)
Re: Redhat 5.2 is a waste of time.....Win98 for 2000. (Jim McCusker)
Re: CD-RW ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
How to install kernel 2.2 under RH 5.2 (Sean)
Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)) (Graffiti)
Re: StarDivision StarOffice Comments? (Jim McCusker)
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From: "Dennis J. Sylvester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win 98 not to loose the docs. but want Dual boot w/ linux
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 09:49:53 -0700
Forget Partition Magic 4.x, it costs money and sucks badly...go to
www.metlab.unc.edu and get FIPS...much better, works great...and it's free.
Make sure to read ALL the docs!
Kishore wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I have 6.4gb HD w/ win'98 loaded completely on it. I want to have Win'98 &
>
> Linux(dual boot w/ 3.4 win'98 & 3gb to Linux ) .
>
> The main problem is I don't want to loose any of the docs and programs on
>
> disc by formatting it. Is there any way that I can partition my HD and load
>
> linux on 3gb of my HD and still have all the previous files on Win'98.
>
> If so please give me the complete details of the procedure .
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> -Kishore
>
> ------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: Birger Blixt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,alt.unix.wizards,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Printer Accounting
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:13:57 +0100
Leo wrote:
>
> Hi wizards!
>
> In RedHat 5.1, I tried to setup a print queue with accounting
> so that all users' printing will be logged with no. of pages
> printed. However, the log file won't update itself!
>
> I added the line
>
> :af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\
>
> in /etc/printcap file;
>
> then touch the file 'acct' in /var/spool/lpd/lp folder,
> then set the file with lp.lp ownership while the
> folder is in root.daemon ownership, with 755 mode for both
> file and folder.
>
> Then I restart lpd daemon (also lpc with stop and start
> option). Root user can then type
>
> # pac
>
> and recognize the file /var/spool/lpd/lp/acct
> as I tried to edit this file thru vi and 'pac'
> does read this file which means lpd should have
> chosen this file as the accounting log file.
>
> However, when I issue 'lpr' command by normal users
> or root, the printing is fine, but the 'acct' file
> doesn't update at all!!!
>
> I'd read the 4.3 BSD Line Printer Spooler Manual
> but still can't see the problem. Any other accounting
> binaries I need to run, like sa? Did I miss some other config
> in some files, like syslogd.conf?
>
> Wd anyone pls tell me what's wrong with
> my printcap config? I used the HP4/5/6 Laserjet filter
> as provided by RedHat 5.1, any conflicts with af: line?
>
> Pls help! Thank you very much in advance
>
> Leo.
If the filter support accounting , a price is needed to calculate the
costs.
pc num 200 price per foot or page in hundredths of cents
example :pc#200:af=xxxxx
You can also set the price as an option to pac. (pac -p0.2) (dollars /
page this time)
/BB
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From: Jeff Letendre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Epson Stylus 640 driver
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 10:01:53 -0500
Anyone know where I can get a linux driver for a Stylus 640? The driver
that ships w/ Red Hat only has a resolution up to 360 dpi.
Thanx!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: 2 Mar 1999 17:31:15 GMT
On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 11:43:15 -0500,
Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As I understand it...The GPL is really not able to be enforced by
> anyone. I get the feeling the the FSF doesn't have the money to take
> anyone to court over a gpl violation...I also get the feeling that
> maybe noone really cares too much - the gpl is more a matter of intent
> than technicality. If you write a program and GPL it, do you necesarily
> make a registered copyright? Or do you just release it and hope or not
> care..
Then you don't understand it.
Hint: do you think NeXT released their modifications to gcc for
'objective C' because of warm fuzzy feelings?
The Free Software Foundation does have lawyers, and they do pursue
license violations on code they control.
That said, they don't control the Linux kernel.
> I'm afraid that, if they wanted to, MS could just take Debian,
> remove any references to GPL and remove all source code, write
> Microsoft all over it, sell it, and there is no specific legal
> ramification. Although, the linux community would backlash and
> it would flop... There's no law involved in any of this, AFAIK.
Copyright law isn't law?
That would be precisely as legal as duping Windows CD's: not.
Please stop practicing law without training.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: jas shultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Massive LinuxWorld Bash following Linus's Keynote in San Jose
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 10:32:17 -0700
How true. I've always laughed at advertisements for movies where the announcer
says, "(Some unknown reviewer from some obscure newspaper) says "It's the best
comedy/thriller/drama/love story of the year"" and the year has just barely
started. Well, I guess all the other movies suck. No need to go to those.
Ok, enough ranting.
Jas
http://www.openskyco.com
Jim Thorpe wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:25:05 GMT, Arthur Tyde wrote:
>
> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >
> >This note and your conference pass is YOUR INVITATION to the most hip,
> >>LinuxCare and IDG are sponsoring the PARTY OF THE MILLENNIUM at the first
> >LinuxWorld Expo
>
> What are you going to do next year in the last year of the century/millenium?
>
> Jim T.
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From: Kent Robotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,fido.ger.linux
Subject: Re: how many loopback-dev?
Date: 2 Mar 1999 18:02:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In alt.os.linux Ferry Dave Jaeckel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello!
> We are setting up a Linux box as samba-server at the university library. We
> want to use it to distribut CDROM-databases to an WinNT application server
> (Citrix).
> We don�t want to use another jukebox because of speed and cost.
> The simplest way would be to copy the entire CD into an image file with dd
> and to mount this image as loopback device.
> The problem is, we have about 40 CD�s, but not all mounted at one time. We
> expect a maximum of 20 mounted images (and so of 20 loopback devices) at one
> time.
> Does linux (kernel 2.2.2) support as much loopback-devices by default, or do
> we need to change the sources somewhere??
> Does anybody know the answer or the location of an appropiate document?
> Please answer via mail
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> because I don�t read this newsgroups regulary.
> Many thanks!
> Dave Jaeckel
I'm not sure but i think there may be a limit of 8 defined in
/usr/src/linux/drivers/block/loop.c.
I quess you can change MAX_LOOP in loop.c to a higher number.
Then you would have to create more than 8 loop devices in /dev.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Eastman)
Subject: Re: how to automate server log on ?
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 17:15:35 GMT
>There are settings in the registry that will allow NT to log on
>automatically, when computer restarts, without prompting you to enter
>user ID and password.
>I just wonder if this feature is available in Linux. Or else how the
>hell are you going to run a network?
>What do you do when a Linux computer resets (or being reset by something
>like the Watch Dog) at 2 AM ? Drive to work
>to enter user name and password?
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying -- are you saying that
in order for your NT network to offer all of its services, you have to
log into the server?
If I am correct in my understanding, then you should learn how to
configure NT to offer its network services before logon.
Linux requires no logon to offer its network services. The only reason
you'd even want to logon in either NOS is take make configuration
changes. In fact, on both NT and Linux servers, leaving a root or
administrator-level user logged on is a serious hazard!
For the record, our primary raid-5 Linux server is watched by
WatchDog. And no, no logon is required in the event that the server
were ever to go down....
michael
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 09:17:05 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian)
Subject: Newbie question: how to apply a .diff patch?
Sorry if this is insultingly simple, but I have read the man for "patch"
several times and connot figure out how to apply a diff patch to a
directory structure.
Here are the details.
I installed java from blackdown (jdk1.1.7v1a) into a directory called
/usr/local/jdk117v1a
Also at the blackdown site was a jdk1.1.7v1a.diff file. How can I apply
this file to the java directories?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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From: Linus Nuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Using 2 versions of GCC
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 17:22:55 +0100
Hello,
Is it possible to "freeze" a version of gcc (currently gcc 2.7.2.1,
libc5) for further usage and switch to new Linux versions (glibc,
egcs, ..) in future ?
I know it should be possible to call the old version with the
compilerflag -V, i. e. 'gcc -V2.7.2.1 ...'.
Thank you for helping
Linus Nuber, BVEE
Schenck Process GmbH
Tel. +49 6151 32 2014
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From: "David W. Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Killing Zombie Processes
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:27:41 -0500
You can kill processes using "top," which has a man page explaining how.
"William T. Trotter" wrote:
> Now there must be a better way round this
> mess. I can't believe that Linux requires a
> reboot to get rid of the remnants of a program
> that crashed.
>
--
David W. Robinson, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of English and Comparative Literature
Department of Literature and Philosophy
P.O. Box 8023
Georgia Southern University
Statesboro, GA 30460-8023
Office Phone: (912) 681-0155
Dept. Phone: (912) 681-5471
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Personal Homepage: http://www2.gasou.edu:80/facstaff/david-r/
GSU Comparative Literature Website:
http://www2.gasou.edu/English/complit/
GSU Dept. of Literature & Philosophy Website:
http://www2.gasou.edu/English/
Christoph Hein Homepage:
http://www2.gasou.edu:80/facstaff/david-r/heinpage.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Eastman)
Subject: Re: how to automate server log on ?
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 17:35:28 GMT
Oops -- sorry about the multiple postings -- I'm at my work machine
with what was a slightly misconfigured Free Agent....
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Subject: Install hangs on "idle process cannot sleep"
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David H. Copp)
Date: 2 Mar 1999 12:43:26 -0500
Hi --
I am new to Linux (although not new to UNIX).
I am trying to install Red Hat 5.2 (the Macmillan boxed set) on a Compaq
Presario 4532. The process dies fairly early after saying "idle process cannot
sleep" five times.
Any ideas?
Can anybody even parse this Zen message?
TIA -- David
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From: Jose Urena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Collective
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:34:55 -0500
I hope that you joined out of your own free will and not because someone
forced or told you to join ;)
well, I am thinking that it should be the other way around, linux users are
the rebelds & borgs that have reaquire their free will and are breaking
free of the MS-Borg collective.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm a Linux newbie, and I'm a member of Species 5618. I've just been
> assimilated into the Linux Collective.
>
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From: "JACK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can Linux run on NT for stability?
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 18:30:09 -0000
this reminds me of colleague who assured me that he was going to set up a
"NT server running Novell"???
>Huh? I think you're confusing hardware and software.
>
>Yan
>
>moi wrote:
>
>> I have found my NT server very reliable, and want to run Linux on it. Is
this
>> possible? I know some people say Linux is stable, but I don't want to
take a
>> chance.
>>
>> moi
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From: "Gavin Maxwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: error message at boot
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:33:21 +1000
I was wondering if anyone knows how to resolve the error message at boot
time that is associated with an Intel processor:
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-RW
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 03:52:23 -0800
> Also, such a system would be incredibly slow and I can't see the point of
> it.
Actually it is very fast...least in win95 were the software is
available. My dad uses it as a second hard drive. He says it is slow
the first time you access it, and from then is fast. Access speed is
comprable to the HD.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
From: "Thijs Cobben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FD size issue
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:01:49 GMT
To all,
Please help, I need to upgrade the 'hard limit', probably the kernel limit,
of the max-number-of-file-descriptors per process.
Anyone who knows of patches is more than welcome to reply. Preferably refs
to patches that don't involve recompiling the kernel (or upgrading, still
running 2.0.36), since I have no experience with that...
Is it hard to rebuild a FD_SETSIZE > 4096 kernel? Or is there another,
hard, hard kernel limit of 1024, a number that is mentioned a lot in
relation to ulimit -n and the available patches.
Second question:
If the max. number of file-descriptors is 256, how come that at least some
processes seem to be able to handle more than 256 concurrent users?. (I
hope that is possible in Linux, else e.g. DBMS-es, IRC-servers, have a
serious performance issue).
How do these processes do that? Our game server opens, from JavaRE, a
socket for each joining player, each socket corresponds to an open file, so
there we run into our limit...
Workarounds, anyone? Someone mentioned the term 'utp-packets' instead op
keeping a socket 'open & dedicated' for one user. Can some-one explain to
me what it is that this guru meant cq. where I can find some reference on
utp-packets & java ?
Yours truly,
Thijs Cobben
Trip6 technology
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From: Todd Ostermeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: PnP & Yamaha OPL-SA: Can't find it...
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:51:20 -0600
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, J Sako wrote:
: Todd Ostermeier wrote:
:
: >
: > I have the same on an old HP board (Pavilion model), and using the MSS
: > driver in the kernel works beautifully (in 16 bit, stereo mode, too). I
: > also noticed that the MSS driver quality seems a lot better in the 2.2.x
: > kernels.
: >
:
: Sound can be configured without getting the card set up in PnP? I had thought
: that before I could do ANY monkeying around with sound drivers, I had to get
: the thing set up in PnP first. Am I mistaken?
On my machine, yes it can. That's because the BIOS initializes it for me.
And for the record, I have the PnP OS option in my bios set to use a PnP
OS, rather than the BIOS (I believe -- don't feel like rebooting to
check), and it still works. If you have an actual card, rather than an
integrated chip, you'll have to mess with isapnptools.
Also, I did some monkeying around with the 2.2.x kernel compile options,
and determined that for *my* "card", only the MSS option works. I tried
the Crystal driver (heard some reports of that working), and the OPL3-SA,
-SA2, -SAx driver, and that didn't work either. So I'm happy using the
MSS option. YMMV
________________________________
Todd Ostermeier
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ostermer/index.html
ICQ UIN: 2253928
A-723
________________________________
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Collective
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 17:54:12 GMT
I'm a Linux newbie, and I'm a member of Species 5618. I've just been
assimilated into the Linux Collective.
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From: jas shultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Send me to Linux]
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 10:26:47 -0700
I'd definately recommend going the CD-Rom route. For US$1.89+s/h you can
get any flavor from http://www.linuxmall.com Which is what I did. It's
much easier and more convienient(sp?).
Jas
http://www.openskyco.com
Richard Vosburgh wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Send me to Linux
> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:10:09 -0600
> From: Richard Vosburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: Posted via RemarQ Communities, Inc.
> Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.caldera
>
> I understand Linux OS is available at no cost. Please point me in the
> right direction to download the latest version. If I'm mistaken, about
> the no cost availability, let me know; where to go for downloads and
> who's version is best (i.e. Caldera, Redhat, etc.).
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and Best Regards,
> Rich
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From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which Linux distribution?
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:22:38 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kirk R. Wythers wrote:
> Also I need to settle on a word
> processor that will allow documents exchange with both
> UNIX/FrameMaker people and Windows/Word people.
You can solve your problems with the Windows/Word (and Mac/Word) people
by going to http://www.stardivision.com They have free-for-personal-use
on Linux software that reads the MS file formats. They have other office
type software besides a Word equivalent.
Craig
Physics Department
UT Austin
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Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
From: Youngser Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! My printer won't print at all!
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:51:41 -0500
Hi!
Thank you for your quick response.
My solution was much simpler.
As someone else mentioned on other threads, I realized that
my BIOS setup for the parallel port was "auto". After I
changed it to "enable", voila! it prints ok.
I remember I played with it a while ago, and also recompiled
my kernel several times, so it must be messed up at that time.
Thanks again for your help!
- Youngser
On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Gary Krupa wrote:
> Youngser,
>
> Thank you for your response (albeit somewhat
> delayed) to my posting.
>
> Since posting my distress-call article, I've
> compiled a new kernel with parallel-port printing
> enabled. Since then I've had no problem printing.
> Lp1 has been completely cooperative.
>
> I still have no explanation for the phantom
> printer driver. All I know is that when the
> problem happened, lp1 didn't appear at bootup, and
> now it does. Cat /proc/devices displays lp1 now,
> where it didn't before. I wish I could say that it
> was due to my imagination that I was able to print
> prior to first running ghostscript. But I'm afraid
> that I can't -- I remember being able to print at
> least once before then.
>
>
> Gary Krupa
>
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Youngser Park wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have a similar setup (RH 5.2, 2.0.36) with a HP 6MP printer,
> > and have the same problem. I do remember this printer works
> > with an older kernel.
> >
> > After the printer jobs failed, I checked "dmesg" again, and
> > it said:
> >
> > lp: Driver configured but no interfaces found.
> >
> > My printcap entry is as follows;
> >
> > ##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL ljet4 600x600 letter {} LaserJet4
> > Default {}
> > lp:\
> > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
> > :mx#0:\
> > :sh:\
> > :lp=/dev/lp0:\
> > :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:
> >
> > and "lpc status" shows;
> >
> > lp:
> > queuing is enabled
> > printing is enabled
> > no entries
> > waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?)
> >
> > Changing lp0 to lp1 or lp2 didn't help, either.
> > Does anyone have a solution for us??
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > - Youngser
> >
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From: Jim McCusker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Redhat 5.2 is a waste of time.....Win98 for 2000.
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:24:59 -0500
'Wulff wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 23:41:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (Plissken) wrote:
>
> >
> >I am a MAJOR newbie, but installed via FTP with no problems. I had a
> >bit of trouble configuring X for a while, but that's all sorted now.
> >I'm using RedHat 5.2. So...I didn't d/l it, I just did a direct FTP
> >install, therby passing up any non-Linux-native hd problems.
> >
> >Plissken
> >
>
> OK.....then here's the 42 cent question ,
> Where do I find Redhat 5.2 and all of it's components?
> I've come across some sites but wasn't sure which files I needed to
> get the ball rolling.
> Also I've got a cd burner so what are the chances of being able to
> make my own bootable linux cd using files off the net?
Pretty good. Take a look at Mandrake Linux. They put ISO CDROM images up
ont heir ftp sites. Just download and burn. They are at
http://www.linux-mandrake.com and come with some pretty newbie-friendly
defaults for a Redhat 5.2 base.
Jim
--
Jim McCusker | Class of '99, BA Computer Science & Cognitive Science
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cif.rochester.edu/~fprefect
~Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly.~
~~Henry
Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CD-RW
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:56:33 GMT
Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Reading the CD-Writing Howto gives me some information, but not
:> enough...I think it may be slightly out of date. I know now that I can
:> make an ext2fs on the disk,...but what I don't know is how to make it
:> work like it does in windows....like a normal disk.
: Currently Linux does not support packet writing to CDs so you cannot do
: this.
Such a project is at least underway...
http://www.trylinux.com/projects/udf/
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From: Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How to install kernel 2.2 under RH 5.2
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 11:35:22 -0800
How do i go about installing the kernel update in RH 5.2? Please email
email me. Your advice would be greatly appreciated.
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From: Graffiti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?))
Date: 2 Mar 1999 11:26:22 -0800
In article <7bbo7k$4ad$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Robert Sexton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>Your job is to write it such that it can be ported. You
>isolate Unix flavor specific stuff to simplify changes, and more
>importantly, you KNOW which things are generic, and which things
>aren't.
Of course, a person will have to know what the "Unix flavor specific
stuff" is before he/she can do that...
The easiest way to do this is to stop using Linux man pages as your
>primary reference. For generic c stuff, you use K&R, or something
>similar. For network or systems programming, get a copy of Stevens.
>For X, use the REAL X docs. For now, I think we need to find the
>person who implemented /proc/cmdline, and turn them over to the war
>crimes tribunal.
Yup, I'm sure most teenage programmers just starting to use Linux
because they couldn't afford $whatever for Windows<insert # here>
will be able to go out and buy a copy or K&R, the X books ORA
publishes, etc. The point isn't that people program non-portably
on purpose, but rather, they don't *know* it's non-portable. And
they can't afford to buy books.
Many of them just started programming and using a computer (aside
the point-and-click of other OSes) for the first time. They don't
yet understand how to read manuals. It takes time.
>: Quite often, the people writing non-portable, Linux-only code do it for
>: one of two reasons:
>
>: 1) They don't have access to a non-Linux mahcine.
>
>No excuse. Get a (non-linux) book. There's lots of them out there.
And it costs money. Sure it's an excuse. Ever see how much books cost
in some places, and how bad translations are? (Hint: Not everyone lives in
the US, or even heavily industrialized countries.)
>: 2) They just started playing with Linux, and have no idea what
>: portability is.
>
>Those who are ingnorant of their history are doomed to re-implement
>it, poorly.. (Apologies to lwall)
Mistakes teaches the most.
They'll learn. After all, you don't expect newbies to sprint forth from
the Penguin's head fully clothed in pocket protectors with a keyboard and
mouse in hand, do you? ;-)
-- DN
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From: Jim McCusker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarDivision StarOffice Comments?
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:30:00 -0500
Vincent Fox wrote:
>
> In <7bfu2l$6b7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jason Naguit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
>
> []2) Are there any other office suites to run on Linux and how do they
> []compare
> []with StarOffice?
>
> Hey I interested in this as well. I'd like to get my girlfriend
> switched from Win98 to Linux but find I cannot. Much as I criticize
> MSOffice for it's bloat, it does have features I find it difficult
> to replace, that she uses. Take for example the equation editor.
> She is a Phd in AE, and thus uses lots of equations in papers.
> The equation editor in StarOffice is *terrible*. This seems to
> be the case with several office suites for Linux I've tried. They
> are good enough for writing letters or maybe a simple term paper,
> but lack the features to handle complicated document needs.
That is what lyx is for. I wouldn't ever write anything with equations
(I have, and I didn't like it at all) under Word or anything like it.
The equation capabilites in lyx are unsurpassed by any word processors
that I have seen. And I would stick with that for any paper over 20
pages, just because I would lose track otherwise. :-)
Jim
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cif.rochester.edu/~fprefect
~Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly.~
~~Henry
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