Linux-Misc Digest #275, Volume #19                Wed, 3 Mar 99 03:13:32 EST

Contents:
  Re: KDE and KOffice ("Andy Piper")
  Re: Where is the config file that sets which librarys at strart up? ("Joe (theWordy) 
Philbrook")
  Troll FTP and guest access (Mike)
  pilot problem... (Ben Bergen)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (David Kastrup)
  lilo gone (Jason Rotunno)
  printing letters with generated addresses from db ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Is linux 64-bit ready already? (Sam E. Trenholme)
  Re: cmp nt vs linux security links? (Richard Steiner)
  Re: Cable Modems with Linux (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Compiling kernel, get errors (James Campbell Andrew)
  Kernel NFS Problem; device busy (Rainer Krienke)
  Re: Keyboard layout (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
  Re: Has anyone tried Applixware Office Suite 4.4.1? (Rainer Krienke)
  Create a DOS bootdisk in using only Linux (Adrian Hawkins)
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: lilo gone (Sam E. Trenholme)
  Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Sergio)
  Need to capture the 'raw' mouse under X ("G. Georgiev")
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Matthias Buelow)

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From: "Andy Piper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE and KOffice
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:16:59 -0000
Reply-To: "Andy Piper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

rhino wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm using KDE1.1-0.1 and am interested in installing KOffice, which is
supposed
>to need a development version of the KDE libs plus a host of other stuff
which
>I am supposed to be able to download from the KDE ftp site.
>
>Does anyone know what mico2.2.3 is exactly? I can't find this file anywhere
in
>the KDE ftp site, nor their mirrors...


MICO stands for Mico Is CORBA. It's an implementation of the Object
Management Group's CORBA distributed computing specification on the Linux
platform.

More information (including the release you want, I think) at
http://www.mico.org

Andy

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From: "Joe (theWordy) Philbrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Where is the config file that sets which librarys at strart up?
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:11:43 +0000
Reply-To: "Joe (theWordy) Philbrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, NecX wrote:

 
> Simple.... Look in the the scripts in the /etc/rc.d directory. (Particularly
> rc.M, rc.S, and rc.modules) The command to active the removed packages is
> there. Just coment in out and reboot. the error and the process call are gone.
> 
> Nectioch

Well thanks NecX... There is lots of good stuff in there, And I thankyou
for getting me to look at those files. But that wasn't it. 

It seams that Cooper had the right answer when he said it was probably a
link to a missing library in /usr/lib... deleted the link and poof problem
gone...

                
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike)
Subject: Troll FTP and guest access
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 21:38:34 GMT

Greetings!

I got Troll ftpd running and really like the speed and simplicity
(it's VERY fast).  Unfortunately, it seems like it only supports real
and anon access.  What I'm trying to accomplish is to set up a file
server only that is account based.  In other words, I'll set up a user
account and they will have ftp access only to the system.  I'd like
the access to be guest type because I don't want them perusing the
system.  I don't even need anon access at all.

I can accomplish the above with wu ftp by creating a guest group and
setting the users home directory to /home/ftp.  This pops them right
into the ftp tree with no way out.  I don't even need to mess with a
bunch of chroot() commands.

Troll doesn't even seem to look at ftpaccess.  Logging on anonomously,
users are sent to /home/ftp and trapped there.  Logging on with
username/password they get sent to their specifed home dir but are
able to browse.  What I'd like to do is have real users treated like
anon accounts, and disable anon access altogether.

My questions:

1.  Is there any way to disable anon access (all ques pertain to
Troll!)?

2.  Is there any way to trap real users in the \ftp tree?

If the answers to the above involve hacking the code, has anyone done
this?  The code doesn't look too complex but altering c code of an
ftpd isn't my forte...

TIA!

Mike

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From: Ben Bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pilot problem...
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 23:10:07 -0700

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My pilot-link just stopped working.  I don't think that I changed
anything but now I keep getting the following error:

Waiting for connection on /dev/pilot (press the HotSync button now)...
Weird packet
pi_accept: Input/output error

I am running kernel 2.2.2 and /dev/pilot is a link to /dev/ttyS0.  This
has worked before with a 2.2.x kernel.  Anyone seen this before???
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 02 Mar 1999 22:40:11 +0100

Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:
> 
> > Actually, it gets asked enough that it's worth publicizing.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> > A monolithic kernel (which Linux is implemented as) is one where the
> > entirety of the kernel is one big program.
> 
> Wellllll, what are modules then?
> 
> Strictly speaking, Linux *is* a monolithic kernel -- but the
> modularization gives it many of the supposed benefits of a microkernel 
> without the jaunting overhead.

It does not give dedicated restricted resource access to specific
modules:  a bug in the sound driver can clobber the graphics card and
the memory of the SCSI controller.

Actually, the 68020 contained a module interface where the resources
of a called procedure would be switched at the time of call.  Using
that properly would give Linux modules almost Microkernel-like
robustness against one another.  It turned out that, although people
had asked for such a feature, nobody made use of it (probably because
it would have been extremely unportable in the Unix segment where it
would have been interesting).  So Motorola dropped that feature again.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Rotunno)
Subject: lilo gone
Date: 2 Mar 1999 21:44:10 GMT

i have a machine which is dual boot linux/95.  i reformatted and
reinstalled the 95 partition.  doing this wrote over the MBR (is this
right?) so that now the machine boots directly into 95 w/ running lilo to
select which OS to boot into.  how is it possible to restore lilo.  now
that i think about it...maybe booting off a linux boot disk, mounting the
linux partition and reinstalling lilo...?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: printing letters with generated addresses from db
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 06:34:18 GMT

Hi


Is there a program or something, that allows me to write
a letter once and print it multiple times, each time
with a different address, and the address coming from
a db, or a text file.

What would you the letter write in? Latex?


Rene

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: Is linux 64-bit ready already?
Date: 2 Mar 1999 14:07:48 -0800

Is MapleV/Alpha a recompile of MapleV?  Is it an emulated x86 binary or a
native Alpha binary?

If it is a native Alpha binary for Linux, it would be very surprising if
it was *not* fully 64-bit.

- Sam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: cmp nt vs linux security links?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 06:54:46 GMT

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying:

>Can anyone point me to a link, or a faq, or anything
>that compares linux security to nt security?

Without knowing the context and the distribution, this isn't really a
very meaningful question.

Both operating systems are quite secure if you don't hook them up to
those pesky network thingies.  :-)

Seriously, though, your question is too general.

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    WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Cable Modems with Linux
Date: 3 Mar 1999 04:04:38 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Charles Boivin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 2) How would I setup 2 systems to share the same cable modem?  I'm
>> told that there might be a way to setup the first system as a proxy
>> server...that wd run Win95, and then connect my linux system thru
>> that.  In the end, both systems could use the cable modem, and that
>> would be great!!  Anyone know how to do this?

>I know that my provider can assign 2 different addresses for 2 computers,
>at no extra cost. You should perhaps check that out with your provider. I
Rogers charges for each connection. (In fact right now they will not
gieve you one at all)

Use IP Masquarading of the first computer to the second Linux machine
connected to the cable modem and the net. 


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Subject: Re: Compiling kernel, get errors
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Campbell Andrew)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:12:57 +0000

Brian Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> However, now I have a compiled kernel file, bzImage.  I did "cp /vmlinuz
> /vmlinuz.old", "cp bzImage /vmlinuz", then "/sbin/lilo", then rebooted.
> Now, I can't boot at all.  It boots up, gets to where it would show LILO
> and boot Linux, then the machine reboots back to the memory check.  I
> booted from my rescue disk, copied vmlinuz.old back to vmlinuz, and
> rebooted, and it does the same thing.

Try 'make bzlilo' - worked for me. No post-configuring required. Just
make sure you have a copy of your old kernal first...:-)

Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rainer Krienke)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Kernel NFS Problem; device busy
Date: 1 Mar 1999 12:14:46 GMT

Hello,

I am running linux with kernel 2.2.2 with knfsd-981204 
(using kernel based NFS).
The problem is that if I export a filesystem like /cdrom to another machine
and this machine NFS mounts uses and umounts this filesystem I
cannot umount /cdrom on locally my machine afterwards. Although there is no NFS
mount on /cdrom and no other process that accesses /cdrom I cannot
umount it. The kernel always says that this mountpoint is busy.

This problem does not occur, if I use /cdrom only locally (do not NFS
mount it from another machine). In this case I can always mount and
umount it later. 

A bug in the kernel NFS code? Any idea ?

Thanks Rainer

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Subject: Re: Keyboard layout
Date: 2 Mar 1999 21:59:29 GMT

**Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How can I change the keyboard layout after installation ?  I have a UK
>keyboard but the US layout (even though I thought I asked for UK during
>the Debian setup).

Edit /etc/kbd/default.map.gz, e.g. mine is
--- /etc/kbd/default.map.gz [gunzipped] ---
See keytables(5), /usr/doc/kbd/kbd.FAQ*

# Load the US keymap
include "/usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/defkeymap.map.gz"

# Change Caps Lock to Control
keymaps 0-15
keycode 58 = Control

# Compose ISO-8859-1 characters following vim's digraphs
include "/usr/share/keymaps/i386/include/vim-compose-latin1.inc"
--- end ---

HTH,
Ray
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rainer Krienke)
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried Applixware Office Suite 4.4.1?
Date: 1 Mar 1999 14:16:26 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <7bd21d$i8t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:17:03 +1100, Ahrum Song <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> >I am interested in how well Applixware word processing program can
>> >handle (especially read/import) MS-Word97 documnents.
>>
>> (...)
>> there is good news, however... StarOffice 5.0 seems to handle Word97
>> documents quite well (i'm not so sure about other parts of StarOffice)...
>> in this regard, i fear that my latest Applixware *upgrade* (which
>> really wasn't, ticked me off, and is another issue) will be my last... it's
>> a shame, as i've used Applix to write at least two books...
>>
>> for now, i'm moving to StarOffice 5.0
> 
> Don't hold your breath - I find StarOffice quite disappointing too.
> (I posted something about this on alt.os.linux a few days ago).
> The compatibility with MS Office 97 is not really good (although
> it sounds like Applixware is even worse). StarOffice chokes on
> "fast save"'d Word documents, for instance. Bigger documents tend to
> generate "unrecoverable error"s, i.e. a crash.  Aside from stupidity,
> it's also a true piece of bloatware.

Besides the points you mentioned I think Staroffice is worse than
appliware since beeing a sysadmin I know it is a horror maintaining it,
there is no duty free support for it and even the support you pay is
not really good.

> 
> If I were to write a book today using Linux, I would use LaTeX.
> It takes some time to learn and to do the fine-tuning of the formatting
> towards the end, but you WILL get professional results (plus it runs

I agree. Large documents are a domain of LaTeX. For short letters or
small reports applix is quite well usable (it is fast anid quite reliable). 
And finally would you ever start a book writing project in 
Winword ???? I certainly would not!

Regards
Rainer Krienke

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From: Adrian Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Create a DOS bootdisk in using only Linux
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 17:13:59 -0600

Is it possible to create a MSDOS bootdisk using Linux only?  Is there a
boot image out there to do this?  Or are you better off finding a
DOS-box and creating one there?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:13:03 GMT

In article <7bhj5d$2itv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andreas Klemm wrote:
>In article <7b2u3k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s  (david parsons) writes:
>> In article <7b2j7t$b7c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Sam E. Trenholme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>This is not a flame, but a simple question.
>>>Why do you think more people talk about Linux than FreeBSD?
>> 
>>     Because AT&T didn't attempt to sue Linus Torvalds for copyright
>>     violations.

Because Linux never contained any AT&T code, it is as simple as that.
>
>And because people are clueless as usual ...
>
>No the two true points are:
>
>a) At the beginning BSD was to huge for people to install and installation
>   was not comfortable enough for newbees

... and not available either. Sorry for that, but while for some people
like me the way to get BSD was via UUCP and a far distance call, aside
from (FIX ME) a 486er was required Linux came on some floppies than. Yes,
I watched the development of BSD back to the times when more caused a
kernel panic (someone might remember that one).

>b) magazines, who are stupid clueless as well, didn't tell people about
>   FreeBSD and pushed Linux .. I remember times, where people at the
>   magazines didn't want to print articles about BSD, because the thought
>   (did they) in the BSD area there is nothing worth to mention ...

No, the BSD people were stupid and clueless enough not to care about
people without free, academic access to the Internet. It was there but
out of reach ... I can tell you, it was the hell of a feeling.

>c) The Linux Advocacy weenies were in all newsgroups around arguing,
>   my Unix (Linux) is longer than yours ;-)
True. Do you regret it or would you prefer to change that to "BSD
weenies" now 8-)

>Yes I can remember c) still to good where nearly everybody was sick
>about it ... nobody wanted to hear this in the traditional Newsgoups
>because it was simply too ridiculous ...
>
>But it seems to be, that magazines at least hear to what people cry and
>shout ... ;-)

Unix is great, Linux cannot beat the BSD networking code, Oracle uses
BSD ... we all (should) know that but true, Linux had and has the better
marketing.

Cheers,
Juergen (who just cannot life without his *nix box, DIR drives me cracy)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: lilo gone
Date: 2 Mar 1999 14:18:19 -0800

[Snip.  Win95 destroys LILO in an attempt to discourage people from 
 using non-Microsoft OSes.]

>How is it possible to restore lilo?  now
>that i think about it...maybe booting off a linux boot disk, mounting the
>linux partition and reinstalling lilo...?

You're getting warmer.  There is no need to reinstall LILO.  Once you are
in Linux from a floppy, simply run LILO as root with this command: 

        lilo

- Sam
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From: Sergio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 19:45:54 +0000

Tom Emerson wrote:
> 
> The solution, then, is incredibly simple -- at least, at the first level.
> 

Your very simple solution wouldnt really work, all that is needed to
cover the program which is trying to steal your ID is a simple XOR with
the number or with the instruction and then you cant know if you are
been tracked, when i say a XOR you can also apply any other encryption
technic.


Sergio.

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From: "G. Georgiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Need to capture the 'raw' mouse under X
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:30:49 -0500
Reply-To: "G. Georgiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

        Hi,

        I need to read the raw mouse data from /dev/ttyS0 while under X
for a signature-capture purposes. Is it possible to tell the X server to
give me the mouse or to pass me the raw mouse data? I need to be able as
well to send some strings to the mouse - to change the speed for example.
If X is not running everything is O.K., but I need to display the
signature in an X application simultaneously.

        
        So, some ideas of how to do it? (without using second mouse!).

                                        George. 








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Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Buelow)
Date: 2 Mar 99 22:28:33 GMT

>In article <7b2u3k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s  (david parsons) writes:
>>     Because AT&T didn't attempt to sue Linus Torvalds for copyright
>>     violations.

BSDi and Berkeley were not sued for COPyright violation, the
law suit was about "trade secrets disclosure".  There're a
couple of documents at ftp://ftp.bsdi.com/pub/bsdi/info/usl/ that
might be useful to those who are interested in it.
It's also remarkable that Dennis Ritchie wanted to testity in
the law suit -- against USL's claims.


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