Linux-Misc Digest #275, Volume #20 Thu, 20 May 99 14:13:08 EDT
Contents:
no sound in KDE (Joe Strout)
Re: Modem Volume? ("Daryl W. Champagne")
Re: RedHat price... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to configure XTerm and mount at boot (Dave Walker)
How to execute a.out (Gezhi Hu)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (David Kastrup)
Re: Commercially speaking....? (mlw)
Re: Version of kernel (Glenn)
Netscape 4.60 evaluation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Mike Willett LADS LDN X7563)
Re: Fax Recieve Software (Raj Rijhwani)
PIKT, Problem Informant/Killer Tool, v1.4.0 released (Robert Osterlund)
Re: Wyse50 emulation how is it done? (Raj Rijhwani)
[newbie] I need to change the IP address (emerald)
Re: [Q] memory usage puzzle (Jerome Mrozak)
Re: [Q] how can i mount logical partitions? ("Michael Doppler")
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From: Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.windows.x.xde
Subject: no sound in KDE
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:31:56 -0700
My XWindows system is far too silent! So I did "cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV
audio" according to http://www.wpi.edu/~huberj/linuxppc/sound.txt.
This appears to work as far as it goes; when I did "cp /etc/services
/dev/audio" I got static out the speaker.
But in KDE, there is still no sound; system sounds (I grabbed some WAVs
from the net) don't work, the sound in Reversi makes no sound, the
Media Player makes nary a peep, etc. I checked the KDE FAQ, but all it
says is that $KDEDIR/bin/startkde should include "kwmsound" -- but it
does. I can even see that it's launching some sort of audio server
thingy, but it doesn't seem to actually work. I checked the KDE sound
mixer, and though I don't understand all the things I'm looking at, I
turned them all up and still no sound.
(If it matters, audio CDs *do* play, though they come out the
computer's onboard speaker instead of my external stereo speakers.)
Any advice? What might I be doing wrong here? (This is linuxppc R4
installed straight from the CD, on a StarMax 3000.)
Many thanks,
-- Joe
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From: "Daryl W. Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem Volume?
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:59:12 -0500
There is an AT command, I beleive ATL[1-4] that lets you set the speaker volume.
I've used it before. Depending on what ppp dailer you're using you might be able
to stick something like "ATL1" in before the "ATDT" to dial the number. I can't
remember exactly which number is for the lowest volume but that is something you can
play with. Hope that helps.
-D
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RedHat price...
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:44:50 GMT
> > To be honest, really, I can't see how they
> > can make any money at all at that price unless *very* few people
> > actually call in with technical support problems.
Perhaps they make money by providing *very* crappy tech support for end
users!
My experience -I never could get RH 5.2 to work with my ISP(DHCP client
problems)and I did not have the Official RH distribution. When the
Official RH 6 came out, I bought it right away ($80). I'm not a poor
college student, and I don't mind paying for software if that helps
support development. I also figured that, if the updated kernel, etc
didn't solve my problem, at least I'd get RedHat tech support.
Boy, was I a rube...
After trying for over a week to get RH 6's DHCP client to work
(including one day of comp time I took from work = 60+ hours) I
requested the promised support. I have now waited over a week for any
response back from tech support at RH. (And, yes, this DOES fall
into an 'installation support' issue if 'pump' - the DHCP client RedHat
distributes - does not work when installed as instructed. Before I get
slammed w/ email - the pump update doesn't work either.)
In the meantime, I loaded an old version of Caldera OpenLinux 1.2 I
got with the "Linux for Idiots" book several months ago- and it pulled
my ISP info flawlessly after the first reboot.
I bought COL 2.2 ($25 - over $50 LESS than RH 6) installed it, and
everything worked fine w/ my ISP. I've had one minor glich with an
unrelated area - e-mailed Caldera and got a detailed, personal response
with suggested fixes WITHIN 24 HOURS! *THAT* is tech support!
My advice -- DON'T shell out the $80 for Red Hat if you are expecting
tech support in return. The documentation included w/ official RH 6 is
better than Caldera's ... but most of that info is available via the
net anyway. If you wanna try 6.0 - d'load it for free or get a
cheapbytes cd, buy one of the many books out there (Redhat Linux
Unleashed, etc.) for $30 or less, and don't pay for tech support you
WON't get!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Tech support? yeah right. It's been 120 days and I've still
> never received any replies to my emails for tech support for my
> official redhat liscenced product... Cheapbytes for me.
Paul wrote:
> > Remember, what you are paying for is *not* the software -- the bulk
> > of that cost is for the 30 days on installation and technical
> > support. A small portion of it is production, packaging, manuals,
> > shipping, and profit for the retailer. To be honest, really, I
> > can't see how they can make any money at all at that price unless
> > *very* few people actually call in with technical support problems.
> >
> > If you don't need support, just download it off the net or buy the
> > CD from cheapbytes for two bucks.
> >
> > -p.
> > According to Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > I just checked out the price on the newest version of RedHat 6
> > > and I see that the basic boxed set is going to sell for between
> > > $75-$80, to which I say, "ARE THEY OUT OF THEIR EVER-LOVING
> > > MINDS?!" Is there really that much new in 6.0 to justify such an
> > > extreme price hike?
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Walker)
Subject: Re: How to configure XTerm and mount at boot
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:26:53 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gezhi Hu wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Many thanks to the people who answered my question "How to execute
>a.out". That problem is easily solved.
>
>I have two question for now:
>
>1. How to configure the fonts in XTerm? The current seting is realy
>small, I don't feel
> comfertable.
>
I also like a larger size font. Try 'xterm -fn rk16', or even 'xterm -fn rk24'
>2. I can login as root and mount my non-linux partations, but can I ask
>linux to mount
> these partations automaticly at startup?
>
You need to edit /etc/fstab. man fstab for all of the options available.
>Thanks again in advance.
>
>Gezhi Hu
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: Gezhi Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to execute a.out
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:41:11 +0000
Hi,
I am a new comer to Linux. I just installed the Linux on my PC. I
am trying to learn programming. After I compile a short C code with
'gcc', I got 'a.out'. When I try to execute it just by typing 'a.out',
it told me "bad command or file name".
Can anybody tell me how to run the a.out file? Or else can anybody point
me to where to find the answers?
Thanks in advance.
You can mail back at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 20 May 1999 19:25:47 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.com (Mike Willett LADS LDN X7563) writes:
> This is why a see no hypocracy in supporting gun control in the UK
> and continuing the right to own guns in the US. We're starting from
> two different places. However, I still don't understand why the American's
> don't at least have some sort of gun register or checks. Can I buy
> missiles without a licence >
Oh, things are getting better in the U.S. With a just recently passed
law, juveniles will no longer be permitted to buy half-automatic
weapons like Uzi machine guns.
Of course, this is a loss of freedom bemoaned by the NRA, but
they can't have everything. Well, at least, they should not.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.help,linux.news.groups,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:06:54 +0000
Phil Bousfield wrote:
>
> I am part of a commercial company looking at how to get into the Linux
> market.
>
> I have a few questions, and would be grateful for anyone who can spare the
> time to give some constructive feedback.
>
> (1) What is the right model(s) for a commercial company to market Linux
> products in the storage management space?
Are you speaking of hardware storage or software for storage management?
> (2) What model(s) should we avoid?
I'm not sure.
> (3) What source code access is appropriate or necessary?
I would say, kernel drivers should be open sourced. You get great kudos
for that. Make utilitiy programs open sourced so people can use your
product as a piece to theirs. Your product can be as you like, while I
like GPL, "applications" companies have little to gain. The OS and
utilities work better for GPL than does major applications.
--
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From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Version of kernel
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:08:26 -0400
Hi,
Not at my machine, but this should do it for RedHat.
cp /proc/version /lib/modules/2.2.7/.rhkmtag
You need to do this for each kernel upgrade. You should have an old version
of .rhkmtag under your old_modules directory.
Glenn
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Owen Cook wrote:
> I installed Red Hat 5.2 with kernal 2.0.36 and then decided to build
> 2.2.7 At boot up, it reports that the kernel is still 2.0.36
>
> In /boot there is bzImage (from the build) and also vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
>
> In usr/src there is a link linux ->linux-2.2.7
> there is the directory linux-2.2.7
> and the old linux-2.0.36 directory
>
> In the dir linux-2.2.7 there is a file vmlinux, nearly 14 megs!
>
> This is my lilo.conf
>
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> other=/dev/hda1
> label=dos
> table=/dev/hda
>
> image=/boot/bzImage
> label=linux
> root=/dev/hdc5
> read-only
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
> label=old
> root=/dev/hdc5
> read-only
>
> Is there a command like "ver" to indicate what build you are running?
>
> Is there anything obviously wrong with my set up? I can't see why it
> shouldn't be running 2.2.7
>
> please reply to the ng, but could you also e-mail a copy
>
> TIA
>
> Owen
>
> ps. My spell checker suggests vmlinux should be replaced with vaginal !
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Netscape 4.60 evaluation
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:21:42 GMT
I use Netscape 4.51 on Linux. Before I download 4.60 and upgrade I
wonder if anyone has done the same and what their impressions are -
positive or negative.
TFAH
John Culleton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED],.com (Mike Willett LADS LDN X7563)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 20 May 1999 16:56:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth P. Turvey) writes:
>On 19 May 1999 12:35:41 +0200,
>David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>Unfortunately, they do. Your chance of death by shooting in the
>>U.S. is about a factor of 5 higher than in comparable countries with
>>gun control. The school shootings are just an insignificant top of
>>the iceberg.
>
>The chances of death by stabbing are also higher, would you say that
>this is related to the price of pork bellies? We live in a violent
>society. Gun control does not change that.
Statistics are always fun. eg You are more likely to die by not wearing
a seat belt then you are in winning the lottery. More Americans buy lottery
tickets than wear seat belts.
A member of your family is more likely to die from the gun that you own
than a criminal.
(No I don't have the figures - they were in a newspaper a few weeks ago)
>>> The most successful way to defend against rape is with a handgun.
>>
>>What percentage of rapes has been avoided by the use of a handgun?
>>Have any statistics?
>
>Obviously the percentage is small. Few of the potential victims would
>be armed. Of the women who resist rape, those armed with a handgun are
>far more successful than any other group. This should be obvious, but
>does run counter to what the gun control lobby would have you believe.
>The gun control lobby would have you believe that most women who try to
>use guns to defend themselves die in the process. Although this does
>happen, it is rare.
>
>If you would like the source, I can provide it. I'll send it via email
>once I track them down.
I'd be very interested.
>>> This does increase the risk of accidental shooting, and the risk of
>>> the `hoodlum' getting the gun (from zero to something finite), but
>>> the risk of rape drops dramatically.
>>
>>Where have you got your numbers from? How many rapists will let their
>>victim fumble with her handbag?
>
>Believe it or not, most violent criminals are not Rhodes scholars.
You don't need to be a scholar to think. If you're stupid enough
to let you victim do anything - the chances are you're already mentally
retarded and under sedation.
>>> Just because you believe you have no use for a gun doesn't mean that no
>>> one has a need for one. I don't need a gun to defend myself either, but
>>> I am pleased that I have the right to if necessary.
>>
>>Unfortunately, so has everybody else. And the persons that have the
>>best "private" use for guns are those you would not want to have guns.
>
>Actually, you and I probably disagree on this point. I tend to believe
>we have created several classes of citizens who would not feel the need
>to arm themselves if our government were run better.
My aunt now lives in Iowa,USA and now owns a gun. She should be
a "natural non-gun owning person" since she hates them but feels
she has to have one. So, not sure what class of person in the US
you refer to ?
>We have laws that
>seem to have the sole intention of creating more violence. These should
>be changed, not access to the weapons themselves.
Which laws are you referring to ?
>
>Even if guns were banned tomorrow in the US, criminals would have no
>problems obtaining them for the next 100 years. We have that many.
>We also have a large number of honest citizens who believe that
>outlawing large classes of weapons is outside the legitimate authority
>of the state (myself included). You really couldn't implement British
>style gun control in the United States.
This is why a see no hypocracy in supporting gun control in the UK
and continuing the right to own guns in the US. We're starting from
two different places. However, I still don't understand why the American's
don't at least have some sort of gun register or checks. Can I buy
missiles without a licence >
> Now how did we get from operating systems to gun control?
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raj Rijhwani)
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Fax Recieve Software
Date: Wed, 19 May 99 21:09:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "C.T.Nadovich" writes:
> "Steve Cholerton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >Can anybody recommend some software that I can install on my machine which
> >will autoanswer and receive faxes?
> Mgetty+sendfax
Hmmm - which reminds me. I've been playing with mgetty ("playing" being
the operative word, not having had more than a few hours to fiddle so
far). I'm trying to get it to work with sendfax, AutoPPP inbound, AND
pppd dial-out. Can't see any mention in any docs, or HOWTOs or the like.
Am I missing something?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ... We know that you can hear us Earthmen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Lieutenant Green: Launch all Angels!"
http://www.courtfld.demon.co.uk/raj/ (demon, and gods, willing...)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Osterlund)
Crossposted-To: gnu.announce,gnu.utils.bug,alt.sources.d
Subject: PIKT, Problem Informant/Killer Tool, v1.4.0 released
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:33:24 GMT
PIKT, Problem Informant/Killer Tool, version 1.4.0
HIGHLIGHTS: introduced a new config file, files.cfg, for managing
any system (text) file (e.g., /etc/inetd.conf, /etc/syslog.conf,
/etc/sudoers); much improved security via user-configurable
service access parameters and server-client callback; dozens of new
validation self-tests; bug fixes
"This is by far one of the most interesting/powerful tools I have
seen for Linux administration... an extremely interesting tool."
--Kurt Seifried, Linux Administrators Security Guide
(https://www.seifried.org/lasg)
PIKT is an innovative new paradigm for administering heterogeneous networked
workstations. PIKT monitors systems, reports problems, and fixes those
problems automatically whenever possible.
PIKT is an embedded scripting language with some never-before-seen features.
PIKT is also a sophisticated script preprocessor and control mechanism for
managing all of your administrative scripts. You can, setting aside the PIKT
language, even use it to version control, install, error log, and schedule
programs written in other languages, as well as to employ macros, meta-
comments, and C-like #if, #ifdef, and #include directives in Perl, AWK, etc.
PIKT is distributed under the GNU General Public License. Available now
for Solaris, SunOS, GNU/Linux, and now also FreeBSD. For more info, and
complete source code, documentation, and data files (all 40,000+ lines of
it), please visit the PIKT Web site at:
http://pikt.uchicago.edu/pikt
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1101 E. 58th Street, #309, Chicago, IL 60637, USA fax: 773/702-0233
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raj Rijhwani)
Subject: Re: Wyse50 emulation how is it done?
Date: Wed, 19 May 99 21:06:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Kevin Power" writes:
> I am currently running REDHAT 5.1 and X-windows, I would really like to
> run telnet in a Wyse50 or 60 emulation so that I could hookup to an old
> AIX system where I have to use a Equipment maintenace system.
> How is this done?
xterm is a termtype in is own right. Is there any reason why you
cannot set your TERM under AIX to xterm, and use it that way? Is
there a specific need for Wyse50? IF so, then I suspect you're
going to need something more sophisticated than a telnet session
under X-window (e.g. serial Wyse50 to linux running telnet from a
shell login).
> Thanks
> Kev
>
>
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Raj Rijhwani (umtsb5/16) | This is the voice of the Mysterons...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ... We know that you can hear us Earthmen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Lieutenant Green: Launch all Angels!"
http://www.courtfld.demon.co.uk/raj/ (demon, and gods, willing...)
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From: emerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [newbie] I need to change the IP address
Date: 20 May 1999 17:31:00 GMT
I have never worked with linux before, however the company I work for has
linux setup for webserver (the person who set this up has left the
company). I need to change the IP and gateway and I can't find any
information on howto do this. Can someone help me
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From: Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] memory usage puzzle
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:52:56 -0500
Bruno Barberi Gnecco wrote:
>
> Jerome Mrozak wrote:
> >
> > I have SuSE 6.1 distribution (Linux 2.2.5) installed on a 80MB RAM
> > computer. Booting to the CLI, 'free' reports that 55MB is used, 25MB
> > unused. I am not running any expensive daemons at this moment (for
> > example, not running httpd or crond or lpd or atd, etc.).
> > I understand that Linux can run in 16MB, ??MB, etc. Yet it is reporting
> > 55MB used.
> > * Is Linux simply using the memory to cache, and will release this
> > memory overuse as other programs require it?
>
> try ps -sux to see how much memory is being used by each program.
>
> > * I'm thinking that when I run a GUI (Gnome, KDE) that it will want to
> > eat memory. Will I start swapping to swap partition simply because my
> > "kernel" is chewing my RAM?
>
> The kernel usually chews less than 1mb of RAM...
>
> > * Is my base setup configured wrong to use this much memory?
>
> You maybe are reading "free" in the wrong way...
I called "cat /proc/meminfo and got this information:
Mem: 81.6M total, 54.1M used, 27.4M free, 6.1M shared, 2.8M buffers,
44.9M cached
What does this really mean?
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:39:08 +0200
From: "Michael Doppler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] how can i mount logical partitions?
thanks all for your help,
i already found a more complex solution:
on my rescue floppy system i used the "activate" command to activate the
logical partitions on the dos extended partition:
in my case /dev/hda4 was the partition with the logical partitions on it, so
after using:
activate /dev/hda4
i could mount my logical partitions ( /dev/hda5 ... /dev/hda10 ) as usual
and change the X86Config file
mike
btw i will use the "linux single" boot argument next time :)
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