Linux-Misc Digest #275, Volume #26 Thu, 9 Nov 00 20:13:02 EST
Contents:
rpm dependency problem (Damir Cosic)
Re: How to apply ATA100 patch to RH7 source tree? (James Richard Tyrer)
un-rm a file? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: The significance of group "nobody" or user "nobody" (mike)
Re: un-rm a file? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: un-rm a file? (Herb Stein)
Re: un-rm a file? (Matthew L Creech)
Re: un-rm a file? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Recompiling PHP ("pl")
Re: rpm 4 on redhat 6.2 ("Gerald Pollack")
Re: Best Distro For Newbie.... (Paul Pygeon)
Re: emu10k1 working, but no sound (help!) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
beginner installing doom ("Tom Stockton")
beginner installing doom ("Tom Stockton")
Re: Where can find the source code for the bash or ash? (George MacDonald)
Looking for good Embedded Linux board (Ioi Lam)
automate PPPD to retrieve email & news (Julian Bordas)
Re: Using Samba, smbclient works, but can't mount share via smbmount (Mark Post)
Re: SSH problems (Mark Post)
Re: KDE2 (Gregory Spath)
Re: KDE2 (Gregory Spath)
Re: Mod_Perl on RH7 fails to make test (Gregory Spath)
Re: SSH problems (Matthew L Creech)
Re: Scanning for shared drive on a windows machine? (Gregory Spath)
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From: Damir Cosic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: rpm dependency problem
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:27:34 -0700
I am running Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 and several times
when I tried to install an RPM package it reported
failed dependencies, like libc.so.6 and a few more
libraries. Strange thing is that I do have those
libs installed.
Example:
> rpm -i --test tcl-8.3.2-1.i386.rpm
failed dependencies:
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by tcl-8.3.2-1
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by tcl-8.3.2-1
libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by tcl-8.3.2-1
libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by tcl-8.3.2-1
libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by tcl-8.3.2-1
> ldconfig -v | grep libc.so
62: libc.so.5 => libc.so.5.4.46
246: libc.so.6 => libc-2.1.2.so
> ldconfig -v | grep libdl
60: libdl.so.1 => libdl.so.1.9.9
242: libdl.so.2 => libdl-2.1.2.so
> ldconfig -v | grep libm.so
56: libm.so.5 => libm.so.5.0.9
241: libm.so.6 => libm-2.1.2.so
All required libs are there, but rpm still complains.
Could the reason be the fact that I have multiple versions
of each library (e.g. .5 and .6, or .1 and .2)?
Thanks.
Damir Cosic
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How to apply ATA100 patch to RH7 source tree?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 21:24:43 GMT
Alex Lui wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I try applying the ATA100 patch from www.linux-ide.org site to my RH7
> (2.2.16-22) kernel source tree, but I keep getting and error "Enter patch
> name" when I run the command
> "patch -p0 < patchfile" from the /usr/src directory.
>
> Any suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
> Alex Lui
The common wisdom is that you should not try to patch the Kernel source that
came with Red Hat. You should download the official Kernel Source from
kernel.org.
However, if you open the patch with a text editor you will note that the
third line (starts with "+++") refers to a directory. The one which I have
refers to: linux-2.2.16.c. You need to make a link with that name to the
base of your source tree for Patch to work by itself.
JRT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: un-rm a file?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 21:20:01 GMT
Is there a way to undelete a file in redhat?
Thanks!
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The significance of group "nobody" or user "nobody"
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 21:29:21 GMT
Hi Wayne,
thanks for the info.
How do you disable or enable a login account?
Thanks
Mike
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: un-rm a file?
Date: 9 Nov 2000 21:34:26 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Is there a way to undelete a file in redhat?
What's redhat got to do with it? You need to run debugfs if it's an
ext2fs, and possibly mc may help you out. It has an "undelete".
Peter
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From: Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: un-rm a file?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:59:13 -0600
Let's all just get used to the fact that when you delete/remove a file,
it's history.
This is not DOS/Windows. Any REAL multi-tasking/-user system does
irrevocable things.
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : Is there a way to undelete a file in redhat?
>
> What's redhat got to do with it? You need to run debugfs if it's an
> ext2fs, and possibly mc may help you out. It has an "undelete".
>
> Peter
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From: Matthew L Creech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: un-rm a file?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 17:27:31 -0500
Word to that. Of course if you REALLY wanna get used to the fact that
what's gone is gone, 'chattr -R +s /' should do the trick. :)
Herb Stein wrote:
>
> Let's all just get used to the fact that when you delete/remove a file,
> it's history.
> This is not DOS/Windows. Any REAL multi-tasking/-user system does
> irrevocable things.
>
--
Matthew L. Creech
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: un-rm a file?
Date: 9 Nov 2000 22:07:22 GMT
Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Let's all just get used to the fact that when you delete/remove a file,
: it's history.
: This is not DOS/Windows. Any REAL multi-tasking/-user system does
: irrevocable things.
Yeah, it would do if you didn't immediately mount -ro remount the
file system it's on, or yank the power plug and then carefully
guide fsck on reboot.
I've had success [at restoring an inode] both ways. Debugfs is getting
easier to use too. And I understand mc really does have a useful
interface to it.
Peter
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From: "pl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recompiling PHP
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 22:28:49 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Fil Sapienza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello. On RH Linux 6.2, I have installed Apache and PHP using the rpm's that
> came with the installation cds. I wish to recompile php3 from scratch so as to
> enable mysql support. Is this possible to do and if so, where do I find the
> php3 source files? Do I have to download the source from PHP.net or can I get
> them from the install cds?
>
> More importantly, do I need to 'uninstall' the existing php rpm before
> recompiling it? Thank you.
>
> Filipp Sapienza
I believe the easiest way, would be to get the source rpm. If you want to stay
with php3, get the updated source rpm from redhat's update site. The following link
is to a mirror since the official redhat site (updates.redhat.com) is difficult
to reach:
ftp://download.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/updates/6.2/SRPMS/php-3.0.17-1.6.2.src.rpm
Then you can install the srpm (rpm -i php-3.0.17-1.6.2.src.rpm) and edit the
spec file which will have been put in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/. Change whatever
options you want, and then rebuild the rpm with
rpm -bb /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/php.spec (or whatever the spec file is called).
Then if it builds successfully, it will tell you where it wrote the new rpm,
and you can then install them with rpm -Uvh <file-name>.
You do not need to uninstall the old rpms first if you are replacing them with
rpms, as that will be taken care of by rpm itself with the "U" (upgrade)
option.
If you are unsure of the different compiling options available, installing the
source rpm will have put the source tarball, plus any additional RH patches, in
the /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/ directory. You can then untar the sources and read the
docs in it, and also run the configure script with the --help option to get a list
of available options that you can use in the spec file.
HTH...
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From: "Gerald Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm 4 on redhat 6.2
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 22:35:01 GMT
In article <VCDO5.963$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Patrick Amirian"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I'm trying to install rpm4 on my linux redhat 6.2 but it's telling
> me : rpm -U rpm-4.0-4.i386.rpm only packages with major numbers <= 3
> are supported by this version of RPM error: rpm-4.0-4.i386.rpm cannot be
> installed
>
> so ? how can I update to rpm 4 ? Thanks.
>
>
I had a similar problem, until someone on this newsgroup pointed me to
the RH6.2 updates; the version of rpm there, rpm-3.0.5-9.6x, can handle the
newer packages.
--
G. Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill Univ.
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From: Paul Pygeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Distro For Newbie....
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 17:59:50 +0000
Michael Lauzon wrote:
> What is the best Linux distro for a newbie to learn on?
>
> Michael
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
Hi,
I'm using a Mandrake 7.2 with XFree 4.0.1 and
I'm very happy with it.
Nice GUI and applications, great look and
don't bother if you don't know exactly where
are all configuration files and directorys.
Use Linux and begin to leard about it.
Bye
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,creative.products.sound_blaster.live,creative.linux
Subject: Re: emu10k1 working, but no sound (help!)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 22:59:18 GMT
In article <8ueoto$8vi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : I'm running Redhat7.0, and I'm trying to get Creative Sound Blaster
> : Live! to work. Using manual kernel module manipulations (lsmod,
rmmod,
> : depmod -a, modprobe) I can get the drivers to load and "work" fine
> : except for one "little" thing: the actual sound isn't coming out of
the
> : speakers. For the record: it works under Windows. Under linux, the
>
> Unmute them with the alsamixer (FAQ).
I downloaded the latest driver, libs and utils, did "configure" and
"make install" for each of them, yet when I run amixer it says:
"The ALSA sound driver was not detected in this system." What can be
wrong? Is it OK that I don't have the /dev/snd directory?
Thanks in advance!
Wroot
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Tom Stockton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: beginner installing doom
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 23:01:58 -0000
Hi
Ok I am almost totally new to linux and am trying to run the doom-1.8
package I have downloaded from the web. I have unzipped the package and
extracted the tar file to give various components including sdoom,
Doom1.wad, README.config and libvga.so.1.2.0 amongst others.
After reading various readme files I tried to run it using '. sdoom' This
returned the error, 'cannot run binary file' or something similar. If
anyone has any ideas or tips as to how I get this going they would be much
appreciated.
Thanks
Tom Stockton
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From: "Tom Stockton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: beginner installing doom
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 23:13:47 -0000
Hi
Ok I am almost entirely new to linux but am trying to run the version of
doom I have downloaded from the web. I have unzipped the package and
extracted the tar file. I now have various README files a doom1.wad file, a
libvga.so.1.2.0 file and a few doom executables.
Following the readmes I tried to run the sdoom executable '. sdoom' but was
returned the error 'cannot run binary file' or something similar. If
anybody has any ideas or can give me some tips they would be much
appreciated.
Thanks
Tom Stockton
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From: George MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Where can find the source code for the bash or ash?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 23:15:31 GMT
Alan Po wrote:
>
> Dear all
>
> Where can I find the source code for the bash?
It's usually bundled with the source for your distribution. For
eaxmple if you are running Red Hat it's on one of their distribution
disks. You can also go to their web site and grab a source RPM.
> When the bash start?
Usualy Friday about 4:00 p.m. Er, oh you mean the shell, ah well
that's usually started when you login! Although the system also
uses the shell when booting to start up the background programs(demons).
> Can I
> select another shell at the boot time?
Boot or login?
--
We stand on the shoulders of those giants who coded before.
Build a good layer, stand strong, and prepare for the next wave.
Guide those who come after you, give them your shoulder, lend them your code.
Code well and live! - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (7th Coding Battalion)
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From: Ioi Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.arch.embedded
Subject: Looking for good Embedded Linux board
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 16:04:16 -0800
Hi,
I'm looking for a low-power Linux board, something equivalent to a cell
phone or a Palm, in terms of power and performance characteristics. Any
good recommendations? We need:
+ Good development env (incl OS and compiler support)
+ Easy to get started (i.e, not having to spend 10 hours to
figure out "how do I download my binary image on the damn
thing)
+ Serial I/O. Ethernet is desirable but not required
+ VGA out desirable but not required?
Thanks in advance! Please CC your reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Ioi
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From: Julian Bordas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: automate PPPD to retrieve email & news
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:16:16 +1100
Hello
Could some one point me to a resource that will help with this? Can I
do this with crond?
--
Julian Bordas
"Windows is yucky. It keeps breaking"
Edward Bordas Age 5
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: Using Samba, smbclient works, but can't mount share via smbmount
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:25:48 GMT
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 09:25:07 -0600, "Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Uuuhhhhhh "smbmount \\\\greentree\\c /mnt" is wrong syntax try "smbmount
>//greentree/c /mnt" and do a "man smbmount" and "man mount"
Actually "smbmount \\\\greentree\\c /mnt" is perfectly correct, just
unnecessarily masochistic.
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: SSH problems
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:32:03 GMT
On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 07:26:13 -0500, Matthew L Creech
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, whenever I try to run SSH on my box it tells me this:
>#ssh blah@blah
>blah@blah's password:
>usage: login [-p] [name]
> login [-p] [-h host][-f name]
> login [-p] -r host
>Connection to blah closed.
>#
If you want to ssh to another system, and execute multiple commands there,
just do 'ssh othersystem'. If you want to execute a single command there,
'ssh othersystem command'. If you want to execute a single command as a
user that is different from what you're currently logged in as, 'ssh -l
otheruser othersystem command'. Hopefully you get the idea.
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Spath)
Subject: Re: KDE2
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:35:05 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JCA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> This is not strictly Linux but - I have just installed KDE2 in my
>Linux box and I am most unimpressed. It not only doesn't look quite
>as good as its 1.* counterpart, but the extra goodies added are not
>all that great: Konqueror and Koffice are on par with free tools that I
>already have, but they don't add all that much (if anything) extra.
>
> This is of course just my opinion, but I am tempted to get back
>to 1.*, or to ditch it altogether in favor of Gnome.
>
> What a big disappointment.
I agree. I was hoping for interface optimizations in KFM (ie, easier
ways to deal with filetypes and apps). Konqueror added a little of that,
but totally lost the ability to maintain a specific look per object
(folder, url, etc).
At least I figured out how to keep the blasted file tree out of the
picture.
Oh yeah...with KFM, it was trivial to use KFM with windowmaker to get
windowmaker's lovely light window manager with KFM's file management and
desktop icons. Now you have to run KDE's kdesktop as an application,
forcing it to the back of the screen with no titlebar, resize bar,
borders, etc. What a pain. You lose windowmaker's menus then too.
With some futzing around, I was able to leave a couple pixels free on
one side of the screen in order to get the windowmaker menu again.
I won't even get started on having to run kinit, which hasn't brought any
apparent functionality (why can't I delete email from kmail by dragging
to the trash can, for example?? or better yet, communicate with any K
apps in an intuitive way? Like dragging an image from a file manager to
the icon setting container for any object??). Object oriented? a little.
Object consistency? A little. Object interaction between KDE components?
None that matter.
--g, wishing they'd stop chasing windoze, and model after WPS again.
>
>
>
--
Gregory Spath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://freefall.homeip.net/
SCHeckler on IRC ----------> http://freefall.homeip.net/javairc/
Team YBR ------------------> http://www.yellowbreechesracing.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Spath)
Subject: Re: KDE2
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:39:40 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <8ua538$nn2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jerry L Kreps ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>JCA wrote:
>
>>
>> This is not strictly Linux but - I have just installed KDE2 in my
>> Linux box and I am most unimpressed. It not only doesn't look quite
>> as good as its 1.* counterpart, but the extra goodies added are not
>> all that great: Konqueror and Koffice are on par with free tools that I
>> already have, but they don't add all that much (if anything) extra.
>>
>> This is of course just my opinion, but I am tempted to get back
>> to 1.*, or to ditch it altogether in favor of Gnome.
>>
>> What a big disappointment.
>
>Differences of opinion are what makes the world go round...
>I, for example, LOVE KDE2, warts and all. BECAUSE, I know it will
>only get better and better and better. KMail is excellent, KNode reads
>the news server perfectly (I'm using it now!). KDevelop runs under KDE2
>beautifully. I imported a 6 page Word doc last night and it came across
>100%. Looked great! It has some warts, but those can be eliminated.
>It is not quite as stable as KDE1, but at this point in the development
>cycle KDE2 is a lot more stable than KDE1 was. As far as I am concerned,
>it is a win-win situation for both the user and Linux.!
>Good Job KDE!
Gotta disagree. With the older version, I had great optimism for
the project. They had the great start to a real OO system like OS/2
had in the WPS. I was really expecting to see this refined in KDE2.
INSTEAD, they just threw a bunch of worthless crap into Konqueror that
added NO FUNCTIONALITY OR EASE OF USE to the system, and in fact, got
rid of some of the nicer things that were in the older version.
Yes, the apps are coming along. Kmail is a little better than it was.
But as an environment? They've taken a huge step back in trying to
mimick Gnome and Windoze instead of continuing on the more unique route
they were on.
Let's hope they find their way back to their original path. There's a
reason I don't use windoze, and I'm sick of everything cloning that
god-awful interface and 'object model'
--g
>
>
--
Gregory Spath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://freefall.homeip.net/
SCHeckler on IRC ----------> http://freefall.homeip.net/javairc/
Team YBR ------------------> http://www.yellowbreechesracing.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Spath)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Mod_Perl on RH7 fails to make test
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:42:56 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It runs right out of the box for me. If you installed apache and mod_perl, it
just works.
I run a production web driven database using HTML::EmbPerl on Mod_Perl at work
on RH7. It didn't take any extra configuration steps other than configuring
apache to recognize *.epl as embedded perl pages.
-- Greg
In <8u98r8$isn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>In article <MYrE5.1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> > I am trying to install mod_perl on a RedHat7 2.2.16-22 box, with
>> > apache_1.3.12 .
>>
>> Why not use those that are shipped with RedHat 7? Apache 1.3.12
>> and modperl 1.24.
>
>Confusion on my end: plain redhat 7 system, nothing tinkered with.
>"rpm -q -a | grep mod_perl " tells me that mod_perl-1.24-4 is installed.
> But "http -l" (apache 1.3.12) tells me that only http_core.c and
>mod_so.c are compiled in. No mod_perl listed.
>
>Would mod_perl be loaded dynamically, or does apache require
>recompiling?
>
>/iaw
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
--
Gregory Spath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://freefall.homeip.net/
SCHeckler on IRC ----------> http://freefall.homeip.net/javairc/
Team YBR ------------------> http://www.yellowbreechesracing.org/
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From: Matthew L Creech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SSH problems
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 20:06:39 -0500
Uhh... Yeah I'm familiar with how to use SSH. typing "ssh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is equivalent to typing "ssh -l username
host.name". The problem is not related to error in typing the command,
as it's been working fine for several months now. I'm just wondering if
anyone's had as similar problem in getting their system to work, I
assume it's due to some permissions that were changed on a certain file
or something.
Mark Post wrote:
>
> On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 07:26:13 -0500, Matthew L Creech
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi, whenever I try to run SSH on my box it tells me this:
>
> >#ssh blah@blah
> >blah@blah's password:
> >usage: login [-p] [name]
> > login [-p] [-h host][-f name]
> > login [-p] -r host
> >Connection to blah closed.
> >#
>
> If you want to ssh to another system, and execute multiple commands there,
> just do 'ssh othersystem'. If you want to execute a single command there,
> 'ssh othersystem command'. If you want to execute a single command as a
> user that is different from what you're currently logged in as, 'ssh -l
> otheruser othersystem command'. Hopefully you get the idea.
>
> Mark Post
>
> Postmodern Consulting
> Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
> To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
--
Matthew L. Creech
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Spath)
Subject: Re: Scanning for shared drive on a windows machine?
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 01:01:48 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <P6_N5.609$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Showson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
>Hi all!
>Is there a console program out there that will list the shared drives of
> a specific Windows machine.. either by Samba name or IP address?
>
>Thanks for any and all info!
>Steve
Either use natwalk, or smbclient -L host
The neat thing about either of those is they'll show 'hidden' shares as
well :)
-- Greg
--
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