Linux-Misc Digest #275, Volume #25 Sun, 30 Jul 00 02:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: What distro comes with a boot manager (not LILO) (Rod Smith)
Re: corrupt partition? (wizard2)
lilo append (Ken R.)
Install of New Kernel (wizard2)
Re: alsa sucks (gLiTcH)
Re: softwareraid slow ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: hard drive hit ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
Best newsreader? (Rob Blomquist)
Re: Console font / resolution ("Jeffrey Hood")
Apache won't comply to my Byte Range request. (Flounder)
Re: Software sources ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Triple Boot with 98+NT+Redhat for a 18 GB HDD? ("K C Seah")
Re: downloading ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: complaints ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Move Linux partition to new HD, how? ("Matt O'Toole")
USB patch for 2.2 kernel question... (D'Arque Bishop)
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: What distro comes with a boot manager (not LILO)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:15:04 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <8lt60r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan) writes:
> So they're selling thesePCs that come preloaded with Win98 (personally
> I'd go for the refund and send the OS back in its shrinkwrap :-) and a
> friend of mine wants to be able to dual boot to Linux with it
>
> "You need System Commander that comes with Turbo Linux" Not that I object
> to TurboLinux, but do any of the distros come with boot managers that'd
> work hand-in-hand with Win98?
Why the allergy to LILO? Without knowing why LILO is unacceptable, it's
difficult to offer alternatives. Because it's free, most distributions
use LILO. One or two may ship with BootMagic (I know the commercial
version of Caldera and Macmillan's version of Mandrake ship with
PartitionMagic, but I'm not sure offhand if those packages include
BootMagic). Note that even if you use something like BootMagic, System
Commander, etc., you'll still need LILO to boot Linux. (There are a few
alternatives, though, like GRUB and LOADLIN, but the point is that Linux
needs something designed for Linux to boot. This thing can be nearly
invisible to the user, but it must be installed.)
> I know ppl have been having problems doing these dual boot installs
> themselves, but hey the store is doing it for my friend, and I'd like to
> know if any other distro comes with a bm shipped
If you're saying the store's doing the install, then they should know
how to do it. If I gather correctly that you're asking questions on
behalf of the store, I'd run the other way; they clearly don't know
enough about Linux to do a professional job. There are lots of outfits
that DO know enough about Linux to install it on a system (in
conjunction with Win98, even).
Multi-boot installs need not give the user any grief, if you know what
you're doing. My book, _The Multi-Boot Configuration Handbook_
(http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/) covers this topic in detail.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (wizard2)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: corrupt partition?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:27:53 GMT
If u ran fdisk from win 98 u wiped out your boot record to boot into
Linux that restored your original boot record which boots u into
windows
this one is just a guess u need to reformat your HD and then boot from
a Linux boot disk that will let u install from your CD or if u dont
have a CD copy of it and u have the install files on another HD
then u can boot to that drive and install from there and repartition
your HD's to Linux partitions
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 23:41:39 -0600, "LeeRoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I ran fdisk /mbr from my win 98 startup disk.
>I was trying to get rid of windows completely so I only have linux.
>however when I try to boot my boot disk or something else I can't access my
>partition anymore to reload lilo??
>I can run fdisk see's everything fine.
>I can run e2fsck it says everything is fine
>but when I try to mount it I get this message
>
>EXT2-fs: 03:01: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features.
>mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblick on /dev/hda1,
> or too many mounted file systems
>
>How do I fix this? any help greatly appreciated
>If there is no other way then the last resort will the to reload from start
>but I would rather not do that.
>
>Thanks
>
>
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From: Ken R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lilo append
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:19:51 GMT
I am trying to pass two commands to the kernel.
mem=128M & hdd-ide-scsi
They both work individually, but when I add them in together the
mem=128M only gets sent to the system. There are no errors.
The lilo.conf entry looks like this:
"append="hdd=ide-scsi; mem=128M"
Any ideas? Thanks for any help
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (wizard2)
Subject: Install of New Kernel
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:54:31 GMT
Hi
I am trying to install a new kernel 2.2.16 going from a resent
install of Mandrake 7.1
Everything goes well untill i go and try to compile I do bzImage
and have tried zImage It runs the compile fine untill the end where
i get a msg that it is leaving usr/src/linux/i386/boot/ it says it
cannt find something like (AS86) and gives me 2 error codes 127 and
2
I wish i new what was wrong i checked my version of GCC which doing a
gcc -v comes up with i think 2.95.xx which i guess is above what they
say i need which is 2.7.2 I have also tried to get a different copy
of that same kernel and it also didnt help
i would love some help on this thanks mike
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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:56:44 -0500
From: gLiTcH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: alsa sucks
well, I got it working now thanks to another poster replying directly to me
about what I might have missed. I am using Suse 6.3 and I have a yamaha ds-xg
sound card in a sony vaio laptop. I didn't realize I needed to insmod 3 of
the oss modules in order for kde to make sounds. I think it is kind of stupid
that I still have to use 3 'oss' modules even though I'm using ALSA. I would
think that ALSA is supposed to take the place of those modules with it's own
so that even oss emulation isn't needed.
I did run snddevices and did everything else like it said to do in the INSTALL
file, I just didn't load oss emulation modules b/c I didn't think I needed
them since I was using ALSA and not OSS.
James Alan Brown wrote:
> Glitch wrote:
> >
> > Is there any reason why once alsa is installed nothing can find the
> > devices it creates, not even a copy command? I can use the aplay
> > utility to play a wav file and it works fine. I can save and restore the
> > volume settings. But if I try to play anything in KDE NOTHING works.
> > Everythin complains of not being able to open the audio device and I
> > have no clue why. It is making me mad. I did everything right and that
> > is proven by the aplay util playing wav files just fine but KDE refuses
> > to notice that I did anything with ALSA. What the hell am I supposed to
> > do to get KDE to use the mixers ALSA installed????? At this time kmpg
> > only wants to use kmix and even with that it complains that it cant open
> > it and to chmod a+rw /dev/mixer* but I did that and I got the same damn
> > error. What the hell does it want?
> >
> > thanks for any information
> > Brandon
> >
>
> Ok lets start at the top.
>
> First what Destro of Linux? What sound Card have you got?
>
> Then maybe we can help you configure it with Alsa correctly.
>
> Alsa is a great package written by many people to stop us having to shell
> out money for Linux sound card drivers!
>
> Saying "Alsa Sucks" is a little unfair on all those people giving their
> free time on this project.
>
> With respect its more than likely your configuration is at fault.
>
> Regards,
> James
>
> JAB Computers Bristol UK
>
> http://www.jabcomp.force9.co.uk/
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: softwareraid slow
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:25:01 -0500
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, peter pilsl quoth:
][=20
][ I=B4ve set up a software-raid0 under the 2.2.16-kernel, but its not fast=
er=20
][ than one of the drives on its own.
][=20
[ snip ]
Let me be the one to say it. Software RAID sucks, on any OS.
Software RAID is like a winmodem, never use software to do the
job of hardware. At least not when performance counts.
anm
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hard drive hit
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:38:30 -0500
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Ron Nicholls quoth:
$$ I am runnig redhat 6.2 on a stand alone dial up workstation.
$$
$$ With no apps running and the machine idle, I get a brief hit on the
$$ hard drive approximately every ten seconds.
$$
$$ Is this normal.
Yes, that is normal, there is more going on on your system than you
think. syslog is logging, sendmail is checking the mail queue, cron
is checking to see what it should be doing, etc, etc...
This should explain your harddrive activity.
HTH && HAND.
anm
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:58:49 GMT
blowfish writes:
> Only those clueless, day-time wet-dreaming, naive geeks who got
> braindamaged by worshipping GNU/GPL and believing in Slashdot would
> believe everything is rosy and sweet and free.
For a while there you seemed like a reasonable person, but now you are
acting like an ordinary BSD troll.
Is your real name John Dyson?
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John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: Rob Blomquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Best newsreader?
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:52:59 -0700
I'm recently over from Windoze land, and I am wondering if there is a
newsreader that is as good as Microplanet's Gravity?
I am currently posting and reading from Krn 0.6.0, and have an RPM for 0.6.11;
I also have a beta of knews, but am not excited about it, if it just another
basic newsreader.
I know that Netscape Communicator can handle it, but its never been a faovrite
either. And pine and news are a bit lower than I want.
I'm not really a snoot, but I just like a decent newsreader with a decent
threading ability.
Rob
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From: "Jeffrey Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config
Subject: Re: Console font / resolution
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:35:10 GMT
Thanks... that definately answers my question... and raises another one...
when I do a vga=ask, and then scan, I get a list from 0 to b (1-9,a-b)... I
can type in either 9, or 0122 (I guess the hex value...) and have it load
the
resolution (in my case, 100x30...) but I can't seem to put either vga=9 or
vga=0122 in the lilo conf file... it accepts them, but gives me an ask
prompt
during boot... are the only ones that I can use the ones that come up first,
before the scan...
And one more... when I do get vga=788, etc to load (I guess my kernel must
have
had framebuffer support enabled already...) my console is flaked out after
returning from a startx Gnome session... none of the modes seems to cure
it, and
I have to reboot to get a "clean" console...
Thanks again...
JH
>To be able to use the framebuffer modes (vga=792 is a framebuffer mode)
>then you need to compile a kernel with framebuffer support enabled.
>Then you can pass the option "vga=792" to LOADLIN by editing LINUX.BAT
>on your DOS partition like so:
>
>loadlin c:\vmlinuz vga=792
>
>You can pass parameters to the kernel by just putting them right after
>the C:\vmlinuz part of that .BAT file. Something to try would be
>"vga=ask", which will give you a list of modes that your graphics card
>supports. Enter the mode number you want when Linux boots, and the
>console screen will have that mode (80x34, 100x37, 132x50, etc.)
>SVGATextMode is unmaintained and you really shouldn't use it.
>
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From: Flounder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache won't comply to my Byte Range request.
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:53:58 -0500
I have Apache 1.3.12 and I am writing a small perl program and I want to send get
portions of
files on the server and I am using the Range header and the Request-Range header both
and
niether work it sends the whole document. An example of what I would use is Range:
bytes=0-500
and Request-Range: bytes=0-500 I don't see why apache is sending the whole document
and not
the portion I request.
Thanks
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Flounder
>+++++++[<++++++++++>-]<++++.---------.+.++++.++.
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Software sources
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:29:09 -0500
On 28 Jul 2000, Trevor Brown quoth:
$$ Hi:
$$
$$ I'm looking for Linux software. Where can I find software on CD? There
$$ is the downloading option, but for me that is impractical for large
$$ programs. For example, where could I get my hands on Star Office on CD?
You can order the CD from Sun Microsystems.
http://www.sun.com/staroffice
$$ The local stores in this area don't sell much at all in Linux except the
$$ actual Linux distributions, and WordPerfect Office 2000. I live in
$$ southern Ontario (Canada).
I would say that if you are looking for software on CD, you have a
couple of options. The best one is if DSL or cable modems are available
in your area, get one. I have a cable modem, and downloaded the
Slackware 7.1 CD image in 1 1/2 hour. Another option is to order the
CD from the vendor itself.
http://www.cdrom.com
The above link has alot of free software available on CD.
HTH && HAND,
anm
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From: "K C Seah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Triple Boot with 98+NT+Redhat for a 18 GB HDD?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:54:42 +0800
Hi! I guess that maybe you may encounter the same problem since your laptop
HDD is huge and can offer me a ray of hope into this problem. I am trying
to install a triple-boot on my laptop - win98/2000/red hat. I have created
a FAT16 primary partition (2GB) for my Win 98 and next created a FAT32
logical partition that is contained in the extended partition (14GB) and try
to install the rest (2 GB) with Red Hat. I choose "Gnome Workstation" for
the "installation type" and instead of automatically install and allocates
the remainder 2 GB for Red Hat. Red Hat prompted me a inteface that talks
about mounting drives which leaves me puzzled; default installation does not
have this interface. Why is that so? I have read a few documentations and
the closest problem I have seems to be that I am trying to install beyond
the 1024th cylinder of the hard drive; my HDD is about >2000th cylinders.
How do I install a boot partition with the first 8.4 GB with the following
configuration
This what the Disk Druid Shows:
Mount Point Device Requested Actual Type
<not set> hda1 2045M 2045M DOS 16-bit>=32 MB
<not set> hda5 13215M 13215M Win98 FAT32
Drive Geom[C/H/S] Total (M) Free (M) Used (M) Used (%)
hda 2343/240/63 17297 2037 15260 88
When I tried to add a /boot partition that is 16MB (Linux Native), The
following error mesage appears:
"They are currently unallocated partition present in the list of requested
partitions. The unallocated partition are shown below, along with the
reason why they were not allocated"
"/boot Boot partition too big"
Fmn,
K C
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: downloading
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:43:40 -0500
On 28 Jul 2000, Trevor Brown quoth:
$$ Hi:
$$
$$ What I'm wondering is if I can download a Linux program in Windows to a
$$ file, and then access it in Linux later. Will the program survive the
$$ translation process, or not? If I have to have my internet access in
$$ Linux, then I'm going to have to spend some more money to get that to
$$ happen. Right now I've got Juno, but they are MS Windows only.
Your downloads will survive the transition from Windows to Linux.
You may want to search Deja for success stories with free ISP's
that allow Linux, there are such beasts.
anm
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: complaints
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:48:36 -0500
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Nick quoth:
$$ I know how you feel. But actually it IS the monopolizing microsoft's
$$ fault. I own an HP Pavilion 4463. Totoal incompatible with Linux.
$$ Nothing but winhardware. The problem is that Micro$oft is making deals
$$ with all these companies to use their OS and to develop hardware using the
$$ Windows OS "specifically".
Sucks, don't it?
$$ But I'm sure there's hope on the horizon. Just keep your eyes out for
$$ drivers. Now Linux won't be as easy as Windoze, but it's a learning
$$ experience. As found, I've found some "beta" drivers for my Rockwell
$$ modem.
You know what I did with my Rockwell Riptide that came with my PC?
I ripped that POS out and trashed it. Never let software do hardwares
job, even on Windows.
$$ If you are looking for ease of installation then there is a software called
$$ WinLinux. It installs just like a regular appication and you don't have to
$$ partition your hard drive.
Yep.
$$ As you I am completely new to Linux. But what keeps me going to learn all
$$ I can is the fact of what yuo said about M$ monopolizing the industry. The
$$ goal to somehow get these winsystems to work with Linux.
Yep, harmony is the key. Of course, World domination of an OS that
does not suck grapefruits would be better.
[ aside: Please reply on the bottom of the post you reply to! ]
Cheers,
anm
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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Move Linux partition to new HD, how?
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:49:50 -0700
I currently have Linux installed on a drive with Windows 98. I've run out
of space with my Linux partition. I have another hard drive that I could
install, and move either my whole Linux system, or just part of it, over to
that. What's the best way to go about this? I'm currently running Mandrake
7.0, with one large partition, plus swap. I should also mention that I have
a cdrom and Zipdrive too. Also, whole point is to get more space without
spending any money.
Matt O.
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From: D'Arque Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USB patch for 2.2 kernel question...
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 06:08:07 GMT
Hey... I just had a quick question about the patch to get the 2.3 kernel
USB support implemented on 2.2 kernels. I have the 2.2.16 kernel, and I
followed the instructions on SuSE's webpage on how to patch it (gunzip
-dc filename | patch -p1), but when I implement the patch, it goes through
it's little spiel, and then it asks me the name of the filename to patch.
The documentation didn't say anything about what filename to patch. If
it helps I'm running Slackware 7.1. Thanks in advance. :)
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