Linux-Misc Digest #278, Volume #19 Wed, 3 Mar 99 08:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Public license question (Matthias Warkus)
Re: V.90 ISA Modems!?!?! ("Jonathan D. Oman")
Re: Easy cron question ("K.A. Steensma")
Re: checking installed rpms (Robert Land)
Installation problem with IDE CDROM drive ("Hyong J. Cho")
Re: Whts wrong with my GTK??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FreeBSD vs LINUX (Alexander Viro)
Re: Telnet and rlogin as root ("K.A. Steensma")
Re: Installation problem with IDE CDROM drive (**Nick Brown)
Re: The name game @ LW Expo (**Nick Brown)
Re: The name game @ LW Expo (**Nick Brown)
best offline newsreader? (Kevin & Chelby Geiss)
Re: Where are basic linux commands (Jayasuthan [VorHacker])
Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash? (John Thompson)
Re: More bad news for NT (John Thompson)
Re: More bad news for NT (Paul Farber)
ICQ in Linux (Joel Andrews)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:44:26 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:36:48 -0500...
..and Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Correct me if I am wrong, but to obtain an actual copyright on
> something, you have to register it with some authority? Probably,
> some government?
>
> I have been told that you can copyright something simply by saying
> copyright all over it, however, I don't know how that would hold in
> a court of law.
You are completely wrong.
Everything you create is your intellectual property, and it remains so
for at least 70 years (that is IIRC, and in Germany). You don't need
to say it's Copyright (c) xxxx by me. You don't need to register it.
It's yours. Full stop.
mawa
--
You probably didn't notice, but during the past year, the moon slipped
about one and a half inches farther from the earth
--
Joel Bloch, "Stardate", NPR
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From: "Jonathan D. Oman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: V.90 ISA Modems!?!?!
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 00:54:11 GMT
Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Don't forget the external Zoom V90 56k FaxModem. Excellent device.
>
Jerry, It may be a good modem, but I can't get it to work! If you have one
running with Linux, can you tell me what AT commands you use, and what your
options file looks like? I have the Lucent chipset version of the modem,
not the Rockwell.
Thanks, Jon Oman
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From: "K.A. Steensma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Easy cron question
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 01:00:48 GMT
and then try to install the cron and you get a error message saying the
minute value is illegal. I think the docs have been 'modified' for RH and
the way that cron jobs are handled. KAS
Bjoern Frantzen wrote:
> Kerry J. Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >A friend of mine has a RedHat 5.1 quake server that has a fairly
> >extensive cron job listing. However, he keeps getting tons of email
> >messages to root fromthe cron process. How does one go about diabling
> >any and all incoming messages from cron. Deleting over 500 messages a
> >day can get tedious. We've tried piping the messages out to /dev/null
> >but I think the syntax is wrong.
> >I'd be most appreciative if someone could tell me where exactly I need
> >to go to disable this feature, what files are involved, etc.
> >Thanks.
>
> Put the line
> MAILTO=""
> in the top of the crontab-file, it's documented in crontab(5).
>
> --
> Bjoern Frantzen - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Land)
Subject: Re: checking installed rpms
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 21:09:08 GMT
On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:07:55 -0800, Gerald Willmann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> reaction:
>> "S.5....T /etc/X11/fvwm2/menus.rc"
>
>man rpm! - even rpm has a man page.
> Gerald
>
Oh great! I found this command with the help of the man page, I cannot
identify the output - and to this day found nobody who would explain.
Robert
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From: "Hyong J. Cho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installation problem with IDE CDROM drive
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:23:54 +1100
Hi
I have trouble to install Redhat Linux on my Dell 486 machine.
I have a double speed Creative CDROM drive with SB16. Linux seems not detect
my CDROM drive.
Checked BIOS(DELL) and could not find any CDROM information on there. Redhat
seems to use BIOS to detect CDROM drive.
What I have to do?
Thanks in advance.
Hyong Cho
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whts wrong with my GTK???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:23:41 GMT
Luis Sousa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can some one please tell me what library is lacking in my redhat 5.2,
> since I can't compile
> anything that uses GTK. this is because gtk-config as compiling switch:
You need to install the *-devel packages to actually compile code against
the runtime libraries
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs LINUX
Date: 3 Mar 1999 07:30:50 -0500
In article <7bj5ns$1l0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <M.com (Mike Willett LADS LDN X7563)> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Norbert Grundmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>I like FreeBSD and prefer it, but I have respect on Linux.
>>
>
>Careful, you might get thrown off this newsgroup for not being
>a bigot.
>
>I asked a question before on Linux/FreeBSD compatability,
>which never really got answered. (Looking back I realise that
>the question was badly phrases - so I'll phrase a better question
>here and hope I do better).
>
>Do you know what problems you would get if you took a Linux
>system and tried to compile a BSD kernel ?
>
>Would it compile ?
You'll have to use pmake instead of make (on Linux GNU make is
installed as make and Berkeley make as pmake).
>Would it boot ?
Yes, if you will care to give it a loader. That, and if you are
going to boot from ext2 you will obviously need ext2 support enabled.
Now, rc scripts may contain a lot of stuff using Linux-specific ioctls
(no surprise, considering the fact that it is *the* place to deal with
hardware oddities; RTC, for one). And part dealing with modules (== LKM stuff)
will be definitely incompatible.
>Would it destroy the underlying system ?
Destroy? Unlikely. Not work in proper way without accurate tweaking
config stuff and rc scripts - you bet. It can be done, but you'll have to
be accurate with scripts [memories of /usr/ucb...]
>Can FreeBSD work with ext2 file systems ?
RTFSource. Yes, it can.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: "K.A. Steensma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Telnet and rlogin as root
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 01:06:18 GMT
how do you change the path variable when using ssh? Mine does not include
some of the more standard places where binaries are stored. TIA KAS
William Heymann wrote:
> Gert Wollny wrote:
> >
> > Ronald Hovens wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not able to telnet or rlogin to my linux box: when I try to login
> > > as root I get erromessage Login incorrect.
> > > However, if I try a 'normal' user, it works!
> > >
> > > Is this normal/what can I do about it?
> > There is a file /etc/securegettys, here you would have to add the
> > terminals for in-telneting (AFAIK ttyp0,ttyp1,...), but you should not
> > do that for security reasons if your linux box is connected to the world
> > outside.
> > Log in as normal user and 'su' instead.
> >
> > Bye
> >
> > Gert
> >
> > --
> > Max-Planck-Institute of Cognitive NeuroSience http://www.cns.mpg.de
> >
> > http://gerti.home.pages.de
> Try using ssh you can log in as root remotely using that and everything
> is
> encrypted so that passwords to not get passed around as plain text.
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installation problem with IDE CDROM drive
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 13:33:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can DOS or Window$ see the CD drive ? If not, fix that !
If the drive is on the second IDE, make sure that both IDEs are enabled
in the BIOS. If the drive is slaved to the HD on the primary IDE, make
sure the jumpers are right. www.creaf.com has a nice archive of all the
CD drives and sound cards Creative have ever shipped, with diagrams and
pin-outs.
I have a crappy old quad-speed Creative CD (Matshita CR-581) and Linux
detects it fine at boot time. Don't install any of the optional drivers
in the install process, unless the EXACT model which you have is on the
list. The generic IDE CD driver is fine for most models.
(There are about 8 different models of quad-speed Creative drive. They
all come from different manufacturers. All Creative did in most cases
was put a new door with "Quad Speed" on them.)
"Hyong J. Cho" wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I have trouble to install Redhat Linux on my Dell 486 machine.
> I have a double speed Creative CDROM drive with SB16. Linux seems not detect
> my CDROM drive.
>
> Checked BIOS(DELL) and could not find any CDROM information on there. Redhat
> seems to use BIOS to detect CDROM drive.
>
> What I have to do?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Hyong Cho
--
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|\ | o _ |/ Life's like a jigsaw
| \| | |_ |\ You get the straight bits
But there's something missing in the middle
Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The name game @ LW Expo
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 13:37:55 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Corporations spend a fortune making sure that their major product names
are readily pronounceable and non-obscene in as many languages as
possible. I believe that Exxon was the second choice of Exxon; the name
they originally chose means something like "sodomise a pig" in Korean or
whatever. Unfortunately, the suits care about this sort of thing,
because they don't understand anything else (www.dilbert.com etc etc).
C. Northcote Parkinson (of Parkinson's Law fame) had several other laws,
including "the time spent on an agenda item in a management meeting is
inversely proportional to the amount of money involved". He gave an
example where they spent 5 minutes approving purchase of a nuclear
reactor and two hours discussing putting 5c on the price of coffee in
the cafeteria. Same with software - the suits want it to sound good
when they tell their buddies on the golf course, and if it's
theoretically unsound and will eat all their data, well, they can blame
the techs.
Tim Holmes wrote:
> It finally dawned on me that the reason RedHat, Caldera,
> VA Research, and the rest, are interested in pushing the
> "one true pronunciation" so hard is that the "suits" get
> nervous when they don't know how to say your product's
> name! You have to make the corporate clients
> comfortable. Caldera was even giving pronunciation
> lessons in their booth. (While "mispronouncing" "Linus").
>
--
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|\ | o _ |/ Life's like a jigsaw
| \| | |_ |\ You get the straight bits
But there's something missing in the middle
Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The name game @ LW Expo
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 13:38:01 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Corporations spend a fortune making sure that their major product names
are readily pronounceable and non-obscene in as many languages as
possible. I believe that Exxon was the second choice of Exxon; the name
they originally chose means something like "sodomise a pig" in Korean or
whatever. Unfortunately, the suits care about this sort of thing,
because they don't understand anything else (www.dilbert.com etc etc).
C. Northcote Parkinson (of Parkinson's Law fame) had several other laws,
including "the time spent on an agenda item in a management meeting is
inversely proportional to the amount of money involved". He gave an
example where they spent 5 minutes approving purchase of a nuclear
reactor and two hours discussing putting 5c on the price of coffee in
the cafeteria. Same with software - the suits want it to sound good
when they tell their buddies on the golf course, and if it's
theoretically unsound and will eat all their data, well, they can blame
the techs.
Tim Holmes wrote:
> It finally dawned on me that the reason RedHat, Caldera,
> VA Research, and the rest, are interested in pushing the
> "one true pronunciation" so hard is that the "suits" get
> nervous when they don't know how to say your product's
> name! You have to make the corporate clients
> comfortable. Caldera was even giving pronunciation
> lessons in their booth. (While "mispronouncing" "Linus").
>
--
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|\ | o _ |/ Life's like a jigsaw
| \| | |_ |\ You get the straight bits
But there's something missing in the middle
Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin & Chelby Geiss)
Subject: best offline newsreader?
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:59:09 GMT
I'm a new linux user. my only gripe is reading usenet news (in fact
I'm in windows right now!! blech!)
I'm using free agent in windows. I can't find an off line news reader
for linux whihc is as good!!!
with agent you can select the headers you want downloaded and delete
the rest from your account so they are gone forever. you can select
multiple headers at once, using shift and the arrow keys. I can sift
through 1000 messages in 15 minutes and end up with only the bodies I
want to read.
Please tell me there is something as good for linux!!!
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From: Jayasuthan [VorHacker] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where are basic linux commands
Date: 3 Mar 99 12:46:15 GMT
Hi,
All Linux command is locate in all bin folder thats in
/usr/bin,/bin,/usr/sbin,/sbin,usr/local/bin... try this command as normal
user.... root is consider dangerous... ones u like a command lets say
you want to know more on "ls" then do this "man ls"...
have fun
Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "George F. Laun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> I am a beginner at RedHat Linux and don't even know the basic commands
:> like MD, COPY & etc. Where can I find them?
: In a book.
: Or at a shell command prompt, enter "man -k .". Then enter "man cmd",
: where "cmd" is a command that you've choosen.
: Or enter "info" and then type "h".
: Or investigate
: http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/books.html
: http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/learning-linux.html
: http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/shells.html
: --
: Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
: Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
--
==========
Jayasuthan
[Internal Linux System]
http://eplx01/suthan/
smtp%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[External]
http://still.working.on
smtp%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash?
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 18:45:53 -0600
Neil Schemenauer wrote:
>
> +- Wulin Suo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Can someone please tell why when I visit the freshmeat.net with Netscape
> | it crashes all the time?
> AFAIK, it is a bug in Netscape that only shows up with Linux 2.2.
> there is a dynamic library which tries to hack around the
> problem. I didn't have too much success with it myself and
> haven't spent the time to try to fix it. check
> comp.linux.announce to find it.
I have no problems with kernel 2.2.1 and Netscape 4.05 or
4.08 accessing freshmeat.net
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 18:54:19 -0600
Harry wrote:
>
> > Where does the kernel end on Windows NT and the GUI begin? <
>
> The NT user interface is called Explorer. It's the default
> interface, though you can use Winfile (the Winodws 3.1 interface) if
> you wish - it's still there in NT 4 (look for Winfile.exe). Changing
> the GUI is no easy matter with NT and most MCSEs can't tell you how
> it's done - it requires changing a registry setting or implementing
> a system policy. You can even use a program like MS Word as the GUI
> - you logon, and you boot straight into Word. NT, like the Mac,
> takes the philosophy of hiding itself from the user - it assumes
> you're going to interact with it via the GUI.
> To summarize: yes, it's an incorrect perception.
Interesting...
OK, next question: can you set up NT with a text-mode shell
and still be able to manage multiple simultaneous
applications? I know this is possible with OS/2 (TSHELL)
and linux, and is quite useful when you want to provide
maximum resources to a server (for example) that doesn't
need a fancy user interface.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Paul Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:52:04 -0500
There is a simple test to see if the OS is "HUNG" or just to busy doing
something else. Press the CAPS LOCK key and look at the keyboard. If the
light goes ON/OFF then the CPU is running and the 'puter is running. The
OS may be executing an errant program.. but it is definately alive. IF it
wasn't what would cause the HDD to spin?
If you could telnet into the system (on a netowrk of course) and do a
ps xa you would see the processes gobbeling up CPU time, try "top" or
vmstat.. that will point you in the direction of the problem.
Paul D. Farber II
Farber Technology
Ph. 570-628-5303
Fax 570-628-5545
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2 Mar 1999, Greg Yantz wrote:
> A Lurker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >
> > Jim Ross wrote:
> > > >Sounds Like something is crashing your X-Server, not Linux.
> > >
> > > No it's more like a hang. And since ctrl-alt-f2 doesn't response then
> > > basically my entire Linux system is hung.
>
> The rest of your system is almost certainly OK. You just can't communicate
> with it. It's still breathing, just deaf-mute. :\
>
> [stuff about network services snipped]
>
> Nope, the guy was running a standalone machine. So, when the console
> gets munged and the machine stops responding to mouse or keyboard input,
> there's no way to tell the difference between a wedged X server and a
> total lockup- it all looks the same.
>
> -Greg
>
>
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From: Joel Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ICQ in Linux
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 21:31:55 +0400
I am running RedHat 5.2, with kernel 2.0.36, and am trying to get an ICQ
program going for it.. has anyone succesfully gotten ICQ to work in
Linux? If so, what version of ICQ (or copy) was it? And how did you go
about installing it? I have tried the glib, and the gtk versions, but
can't seem to get those libraries to compile properly, they always have
errors at the end of the compile.. help!
Joel
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