Linux-Misc Digest #311, Volume #19 Fri, 5 Mar 99 02:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: best offline newsreader? (Marc D. Williams)
Re: Partitioning question (Bruno Barberi Gnecco)
Re: AMD questions (Jason Clifford)
Re: HP690C printer and Soffice5.0 (Jason Clifford)
Re: Which HP DeskJet to buy/not to buy? - quick advice needed, (Jason Clifford)
Re: More bad news for NT (Jason Clifford)
Re: Kernel 2.2.2 Intel (Jason Clifford)
Re: More bad news for NT (Jason Clifford)
Re: special characters in UNIX how? (Walter Strong)
StarOffice anyone?? ("Craig")
Linux VERY slow to boot ("Craig")
Re: Backup software (Eric van Oorschot)
Re: Slirp compile error: Linux 2.0.33 (Dr Paul Kinsler)
help with shadow..please ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux User Group of Davis - Meeting Tuesday 6:30pm (William Kendrick)
NEWBIE - SOUND ("j")
Re: Redhat 5.2 install mysteries (Larry Janik)
Privilages Controls (Jayasuthan [VorHacker])
Re: Public license question (John Hasler)
Re: kcore (Philippe Wautelet)
Re: More bad news for NT (Harry)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 4 Mar 1999 12:52:09 -0800
On Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:59:09 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>with agent you can select the headers you want downloaded and delete
>the rest from your account so they are gone forever. you can select
>multiple headers at once, using shift and the arrow keys. I can sift
>through 1000 messages in 15 minutes and end up with only the bodies I
>want to read.
>
A couple or few that do that are News Peruser, Skim, and uh... I think
Xagent. I had the latter only long enough to compile it, try it, and
delete it though I don't remember why. :-)
Version 0.7.5.
Skim can be used in both console (skim) and X (xskim).
Skim is mostly just the transport, how to select subjects or read
articles is up to you (text editor/viewer).
Xskim, though, provides a tcl interface for selecting, reading,
receiving and posting.
It's very basic with very few if any features (no email
that I know of; page up/down or using the scroll bar seems to
jump if other tasks are running, etc.
If I read right it may no longer be maintained so the job is open.
I also tried the latest News Peruser (4.0a49) which had some
annoyances interface-wise. It is alpha though so...
That said, I use the slrn/slrnpull combo for reading linux and related
newsgroups but have a bunch of other groups I read from DOS using
Net-Tamer (it has the subject retrieval feature) but since I lost
my DOS drive I've been looking for something with similar features
also.
--
>>ANIME SENSHI<<
Marc D. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html -- DOS Internet
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/ -- Windows 3.x Makeover
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From: Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Partitioning question
Date: 4 Mar 1999 06:31:01 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sanjay Rajasekhar wrote:
> Windows sees hdb1 and hdb2 as D: and E: drives,
> respectively. It shows D:'s space as fully available
> but shows 5Meg of E:'s space as used even after
> formatting (with no system files on it). Why is this?
> could this be because of some block boundary problems?
> Any remedy?
Try to reformat the windows partitions. If you're not using FAT32,
try a fdisk /mbr (it may work on fat32, but I'm not sure).
--
Did you *REALLY* check that interface between the chair and the keyboard?
Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ #1383173 - PGP 5.0i user
[I'm running Linux] -=-=- Electric Engineering at Politechnic School, USP
http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/1980/ * Check for C, 3D graphics, etc
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD questions
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:31:10 +0000
On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, J Schenk wrote:
> Does anyone use an Amd k6-2 and have problems.
> A message in another news group said that There were many problems with
> the Amd relating to incorrect irq redirecting
> causing a limit to only use vga mode opperation. is this true and is
> there any other problems.
I know that there is a bug in MS Windows 95 that causes a lot of problems
with AMD K6-2 CPUs at speeds 350MHz and higher and I know of another
problem with AMD K6-2 CPUs and MicroStar motherboards with onboard ATI
video and ESS1730 sound but again this is only an issue if you run
Windows.
Neither of these problems affects any of the Linux systems we have sold so
I can only assume that they are MS related.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP690C printer and Soffice5.0
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:33:17 +0000
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Dirk Demuynck wrote:
> does anyone know how to setup the HP690C printer in Staroffice5.0.He isn't
> mentioned in the printerlist?
The listed printers are all postscript ones. Use Ghostscript and you will
have no problems.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which HP DeskJet to buy/not to buy? - quick advice needed,
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:44:32 +0000
On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Daniele Bernardini wrote:
> I have the same printer and I'am having problems with black printing:
> too much ink. Gamma correction doesn't help... :(
Download ghostscript 5.50 or later which has an updated driver to make use
of the information that HP made publicly available for the DJ printers
years ago so that you can use enconomy mode.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:49:23 +0000
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Harry wrote:
> > Perhaps one would prefer not to have a GUI running taking up large
> portions of the systems resources unnecessarily. <
>
> Here's a common fallacy! A program (GUI or otherwise) only uses CPU
> when it's doing something. If your system is sitting quietly in the
> corner, the GUI is taking no processor cycles and requiring little
> system memory (though it probably consumes quite a bit of your
> graphics card's memory) and other resources.
One thing you are missing here is that most servers have a crap graphics
card that offloads onto the CPU for graphically intense work as servers
don't need GUI to do their job so most people don't account for a good
graphics card when spec'ing out a server.
As for the GUI taking no processor cycles tell that to the countless
idiots who have OpenGL screensavers running on their NT server. I have yet
to go to any site where this was not common practice.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.2 Intel
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:36:46 +0000
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Herman Z. Resto wrote:
> Just built kernel 2.2.2 for Intel Machine. I am getting a message that
> the Mouse "GPM" is obsolete, and that I should reconfigure hardware to
> use dev/ttys0 instead of /dev/cua0. Does anyone know how to do this?
>
> I am no longer able to run KDE with or w/o GPM because mouse input has
> no effect on desktop. Everthing else runs fine using different window
> managers. (Afterstep, FVWM, TheNextStep, etc....)
Your /dev/mouse currently points to /dev/cua0. /dev/cua? devices have been
depreciated and are no longer present in the 2.2.x kernel series.
You should be able to fix the problem by simply entering the following
command as root:
ln -sf /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse
which will recreate the link to /dev/mouse using /dev/ttyS0 which is the
correct way to refer to a serial port using kernel 2.2.x.
This will still work with 2.0.x kernels.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:50:37 +0000
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Harry wrote:
> > luser <
>
> This is an appalling way to refer to your end-users! Why do shop
> staff and help desk people always hate dealing with the public?
Because experience of what it is really like will either lead to you
switching to another job or takin on exactly that attitude in order to
maintain what is left of your sanity.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong)
Subject: Re: special characters in UNIX how?
Date: 5 Mar 1999 06:43:02 GMT
Gene Wilburn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: If you only need them when you're editing, both vim and emacs make it
: easy:
: In vim, to get é type ^K ' e
: In emacs, you set a couple of modes then hit the accent first followed
: by the character. It's in the docs (I don't remember them off the top of
: my head).
: Gene
Emacs: M-x iso-accents-mode
This is a buffer only command, so each new buffer would need to be
reset. There's also a global command that sets emacs to display accented
characters:
M-x display-standard-european
Thanks for the tip about vim!
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From: "Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: StarOffice anyone??
Date: 04 Mar 1999 03:34:00 PST
I DL'ed and installed StarOffice recently (that part seemed to go fine), but
now I can't seem to get the program to start. The README says to execute
the script /Office50/bin/soffice, but I've had no luck. The Stardivision
web site doesn't seem to have a lot of help docs up. Any ideas? I am also
trying to figure out how to create icons for it in Afterstep.
thanks,
Craig Shields
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From: "Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Linux VERY slow to boot
Date: 04 Mar 1999 03:48:33 PST
I've just started having a problem getting Linux to boot on my laptop.
During the boot, it keeps hanging on 'starting sendmail'...then on 'starting
httpd'....then on 'starting ABD (I think that's right?). I've had to wait
up to 20 minutes to get to my logon screen!
Here's the only thing I've changed... I just recently managed to get on my
LAN and connected to the internet (via the LAN) using one of the two IP's I
use as I travel between two locations. It was working fine at location "x"
(which is the IP I used when originally configuring), but when I went to
location "y" (where I use a different IP) it started this VERY slow boot
problem.
Since I normally manually change my IP (in the Windows settings) as I travel
between locations I thought I needed to do that in Linux too.... (I'm sure
I DO need to do that). So when I finally booted up, I logged in, went to
linuxconf and changed ONLY my IP address. When I rebooted, it still took
forever (no change) and once up I couldn't get on the Internet or
send/receive mail.
Does any of this make sense to anyone?!?!
thanks,
Criag
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
From: Eric van Oorschot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backup software
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:31:03 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shane Steven Sturrock) writes:
> I just gpt a new drive for my Alpha after my long serving SCSI-II
> died. I have partitioned it up and only one partition has anything
> that I can't replace, the rest is just stuff from installs etc which
> can be easily recovered. I have a JAZ 1GB drive which I have been
> using to transfer files and such around so I decided to use a spare
> disc as my backup so I could try out BRU2000 which came with my
> RH install discs. It works well with the drive, I needed to edit
> one of the tcl scripts for xbru to stop it trying to rewind the
> drive but otherwise it works well and I can pull any files or
> directories I need out of the archive. Using a 1GB disc is much
> faster than using a tape format and I can do weekly backups of just
> the stuff that has changed so that 1GB disc will keep me going for
> quite some time. I like the security of it verifying backups and
> so forth, I used to use tar all the time and will continue to do
> so in addition to BRU.
>
> --
> Dr. Shane Sturrock - http://nova.bru.ed.ac.uk/~sss
> Linux, a better WinNT than WinNT
I'm using an Iomega Ditto 2MB with ftape 4.02. It works reliable for
me. Before I bought the Iomega is used an Conner tapedrive (using
2120 tapes) and that also worked with ftape without problems. Both tapedrives
were connected parallel over the floppy drive.
--
Eric (H.M.G.) van Oorschot
Rotterdam
the Netherlands No HomePage http://www.xs4all.nl/~hmgvo
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Crossposted-To: alt.dcom.slip-emulators
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Paul Kinsler)
Subject: Re: Slirp compile error: Linux 2.0.33
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:14:59 +0000 (GMT)
In comp.os.linux.misc Angus March <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to compile slirp under Linux kernel 2.0.33 and the process
> quickly stops after being overloaded w/errors:
> gcc -I. -I. -DUSE_PPP -g -O -O2 -Wall -Wno-implicit
> -Wmissing-prototypes -c ./m
> ain.c
> ./main.c:501: conflicting types for `writefds'
> main.h:34: previous declaration of `writefds'
> ./main.c:501: conflicting types for `readfds'
> main.h:34: previous declaration of `readfds'
> ./main.c:501: conflicting types for `xfds'
> main.h:34: previous declaration of `xfds'
> make: *** [main.o] Error 1
> The version is slirp 1.0c, and I follow the instructions in the REAME
> to the letter: cd slirp-1.0c/src
> ./configure
> make
> None of the documentation, or anything that I've found on DejaNews
> talks about this.
I compiled it on a slackware 3.2 with kernel upgraded to 2.0.35
and got it to work -- but having said that, I just retried to
check and got exactly the same errors as you. I've upgraded
a few other things since, though. I'll try to check more...
--
==============================+==============================
Dr. Paul Kinsler
Institute of Microwaves and Photonics
University of Leeds (ph) +44-113-2332089
Leeds LS2 9JT (fax)+44-113-2332032
United Kingdom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEB: http://www.ee.leeds.ac.uk/staff/pk/P.Kinsler.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: help with shadow..please
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 06:20:32 GMT
hi ..
i have problem installing shadow..
i telnet to my redhat server and changed as a superuser.
i do the
tar -xzvf shadow-XXXXX-tar.gz
i fallow all the instruction for the installation. however
i get to the point where i have run
make i used make all
but i get a error
make file: 134:....missing separator.
this is there
@SET_MAKE@
can someone tell me what this is ?
or the i did something wrong..
thank you for your time..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Kendrick)
Crossposted-To:
ucd.general,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club,ucd.cs.programming,ucd.cs.grad,ucd.cs.ugrad,ucd.org.asme,ucd.org.swe,ucd.ece.ieee
Subject: Linux User Group of Davis - Meeting Tuesday 6:30pm
Date: 5 Mar 1999 05:53:52 GMT
The Linux User Group of Davis (LUGOD) will hold its next meeting on
this upcoming Tuesday, March 9, 1999, at 6:30pm.
The meeting will be held at Steve's Place Pizza, located at 314 F Street
in Davis (530-758-2800). We have reserved the back room.
LUGOD is open to all members of the public (UC Davis students/faculity/staff,
and otherwise). For more information about LUGOD, please visit our website:
http://www.lugod.org/
If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/ http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/
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From: "j" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEWBIE - SOUND
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:35:49 +0200
Hi
Can't get my AWE32 to work - can any1 help?
I installed it in the /dev/whatever/linux/drivers/sound thing w/ the make
config option, and have alll the hardware right, and then recompiled the
kernel through the option in X - but it doesn't say anything in the kernel
bootup about sound being installed.
What have I messed up?
Thanx in advance
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:40:53 -0800
From: Larry Janik <"cinlar No Spam"@qnet.com>
Reply-To: cinlar, no, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Redhat 5.2 install mysteries
Gregory Greenman wrote:
> Michael Born wrote:
>
> > I noticed that the original application puts the modules in
> > /lib/modules/2.0.36-0.7 and my make modules appears to put them
> > in /lib/modules/2.0.36 (as a releated question, what's the deal
> > here?). In the 2.0.36 directory there is no iBCS file. Again
> there was no iBCS file in the modules directory and
> when I copied the one for the 2.0.36-0.7 directory, insmod
> complained of an unresolved reference to "???sync??" ( I
> forget the exact reference-but had "sync" in it).
>
> I'm almost ready to go back to Slackware - I shouldn't have
> unresolved references when recompiling a kernel.
>
> Does the "make modules" get everything that was specified
> as a module in "make xconfig"?
Not always, at least in earlier kernels (2.0.32 or 2.0.30) I would get
a error that sound was not configured properly with a make xconfig. I
did make menuconfig and simply saved and exited without changing
anything and sound compiled fine.
>
> Dr. Gregory Greenman
> Physicist
You might want to try the kernel update available at RedHat or it's
mirrors. It's 2.0.36-3.
IBCS seems to be a seperate rpm for redhat is it installed? Hope this
helps...
Larry Janik
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jayasuthan [VorHacker] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Privilages Controls
Date: 4 Mar 99 13:19:19 GMT
Hi Netlanders,
I been using Linux for 8 months and I have a good question. How linux
system manage privillages. All I know is root is the king of system. How
about others. I been working on vms system for 2 year, on this system
System Admin. can assign privilages for other lets say operator.... have
bypass privs, this because operator does backup and operator can bypass
all permission control.
Please help me out here.. I want to assign certain user to work close with
linux server without using ROOT.
Thanks
--
==========
Jayasuthan
[Internal Linux System]
http://eplx01/suthan/
smtp%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[External]
http://still.working.on
smtp%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:17:21 GMT
Emile van Bergen writes:
> How does the 'derived work' clause apply here? It's a library, but it
> isn't LGPL'ed. When I statically link my app with gdbm, I don't copy any
> gdbm source into my program, however, I do copy _binary_ pieces of gdbm
> into my program.
Thereby making your binary a derivative of the gdbm binary, which is itself
a derivative of the gdbm source.
> If I dynamically link my app with gdbm, I guess the end user performs the
> act of linking
If you can manage to dynamically link without copying any copyrighted
material (header files...) then your program need not be released under the
GPL (RMS does not agree with me on this).
> I've read the license myself, but found it rather vague on the 'derived
> work' part.
It isn't vague if you understand what a derived work is.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Philippe Wautelet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kcore
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 14:17:46 +0000
Eric Ho wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In my /proc directory, there is a "kcore" file which is
> over 130Meg, and is growing everyday.
> Can someone tell me what it is ? Can I just delete it ?
> I am running Slackware, kernel 2.0.35, KDE 1.0.
This is not a real file. It's only a link to your memory.
So its size doesn't change (except if you add RAM).
You can't delete it because it doesn't exist on your hd
(the same is true for all the 'files' in your /proc
directory).
Best Regards
Philippe
====================
Philippe Wautelet
Research assistant
Applied aerodynamics
Universite de Liege, Belgium
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:15:23 -0500
Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One thing you are missing here is that most servers
> have a crap graphics card that offloads onto the CPU
> for graphically intense work as servers don't need
> GUI to do their job so most people don't account for
> a good graphics card when spec'ing out a server.
I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that an NT Server should
have a graphics card on it. A $30-$50 card isn't an excessive
luxury. I'd also like to say that the performance hit *when* using a
graphic application, such as MMC, is a price worth paying. You don't
spend hours every day administering the server. (I hope.)
> As for the GUI taking no processor cycles tell that
> to the countless idiots who have OpenGL screensavers
> running on their NT server. I have yet to go to any
> site where this was not common practice.
Can't argue with that one! However, this is just ignorance on the
part of the administrator and not a fault with NT per se.
Harry
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