Linux-Misc Digest #324, Volume #19 Sat, 6 Mar 99 01:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Public license question (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Open source MS bad for Linux? (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Question about ZIP Disks with Linux (Monte Milanuk)
Re: damn bastards (brian moore)
Re: Cannot Remove LILO from MBR (Christopher)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? ("David A. Frantz")
Re: Xwindows too BIG (Mike)
Open source MS bad for Linux? (Dillon Pyron)
Re: Linux VERY slow to boot (Erhard Siegl)
Re: Speed of accessing tousands of files in a directory? (Ken Pizzini)
Re: Help: Newbie doesn't know where to start with GNOME! (jik-)
Re: best offline newsreader? (Richard Steiner)
Re: Public license question (Geoffrey KEATING)
Re: Where is psaux.c ? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Matrox G200 PCI support Linux?? ("Darrick J. Hartman")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 04:23:16 GMT
On 6 Mar 1999 03:29:14 GMT, Lynn Winebarger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>RMS is wrong about the 'spirit' of the copyright. Copyright was created
>>for the pourpose of inovation...and here is were it really goes away
>>from his ideas...
>>
>>The thought was, that people would be more inclined to come up with new
>>ideas if they held certain ownerships of them. If they cold hold onto
>>these ideas as being thier own and noone elses for a term, they could
>>make money off of thier idea and so they would me more inclined to want
>>to. If you thought you could make a few bucks off of something you
>>thought up in your head, you might want to go through the pain in the
>>ass of actually publishing (or whatever) your new idea....much less so
>>if you knew someone would just come along with more resources and take
>>it away.
>
> Actually this is incorrect. Copyright covers the particular
>expression of ideas, not the ideas themselves. If I write a book
>about wavelets, I don't own the ideas about wavelets that are contained
>in the book, I own the presentation of those ideas. Someone else can
>present them in their own way.
Strictly speaking? Copyright is about particular expression.
By protecting those particular expressions, it seeks to encourage the
wide dissemination of those particular expressions.
When you look at the way the music industry "taxes" music
distribution, it may feel more like it discourages expression; that
represents imperfection of implementation rather than that the
original idea was not about encouraging dissemination of knowledge.
> Patents are more along the lines of what you're thinking about. But
>even patents don't restrict the expression of the ideas, merely the
>physical implementation of those ideas. Which I think has interesting
>implications for software, where the expression of the idea is directly
>related to its implementation.
It's more clear with patent that the temporary monopoly is intended to
provide temporary control to inventors to encourage invention.
Note that some of the controversy isn't new; back in the days when
steam power was "hot stuff" :-), Isaac Watt had a patent on his
condensor, and rapacious royalty rates had the result that other
engine manufacturers waited for the patent to expire...
(Education never quite ends; I visited the Henry Ford Museum last
week. Lots of relatively propagandic stuff, the Lincoln limo in which
Kennedy was shot, and some really insightful bits things like a
history of early steam power...)
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Open source MS bad for Linux?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:47:51 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dillon Pyron) writes:
> One of the proposed "remedies" for MicroSoft when they lose (almost
> a given at this point, but let's save the champagne :-) would be to
> force them to "open source" all of their OS products. While it
> sounds great, what I'm afraid it would mean is that instead of one
> version of MS Windows, there would be dozens of implementations, as
> exists with Linux.
Don't forget that Win95 sets on top of DOS and that would have to be
Open Sourced as well.
Also, DOS is a grandchild of Unix, stripped of all it's power and
security.
The problems of keeping the two happily married would exceed their
worth.
Let them die.
Even if they don't, the majority of their users will switch sooner or
later because Linux as stop being a flood and has turned into a Tsunami!
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From: Monte Milanuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Question about ZIP Disks with Linux
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:17:24 -0600
Chris in sunny Manitoba wrote:
>
> Me newbie. Me hear [EMAIL PROTECTED] say:
>
> >Does anyone know if and when I finally get my ZIP disk drive to work
> >with Linux, if I can then access my DOS formatted ZIP disks?
> >
> >Or will I have to format them with a Unix/Linux Partition thus making
> >it non-cross platformable?
> >
> >Ian
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> My Zip's the scsi version and worked in RH5.2 out of the box... pretty
> good way to transfer files, aamof.
1d10t way to keep straight which you have mounted, dos or linux => mount
your linux zip disk under /mnt/zip/ext2, and your windoze zip disks
under mnt/zip/fat32, or something similar. Makes it easier for me, at
least.
Monte
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: damn bastards
Date: 6 Mar 1999 05:01:02 GMT
On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 21:29:28 -0500,
Mr. Tinkertrain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (feel free to completely ignore and disregard this message)
>
> i hate those morons who say 'x-windows' instead of 'x-window'. ignorant
> fools.
ITYM, "the X Window System". What's "x-window"?
> also, those dumbasses who say 'LIEnux' instead of 'LIHnux'... what the
> FUCK?! and you try to convince em that they've got it all wrong and
> they just won't listen... bastards. execute em all!!
Um, I really hate to piss in your beer, but it's not pronounced either
way if you want to be pedantic.
Linus doesn't pronounce his name "LIHnus", he says "LEEnus", and
pronounces the OS name as "LEEnux"
The long-i variation is the anglicization of his name. I have no idea
why the pedants think there's such a thing as li^nux, since there's no
etymology for that.
> just my 2 cents. not that anyone should give a fuck or anything!
Obviously you do. Now drink your beer and ignore the flavor.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cannot Remove LILO from MBR
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 23:02:08 -0600
Cevher Dogan wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry if there was similar postings. I had my linux 2 years back and thought
> I could do a new install without turning a page. I had 3.1, NT and Linux on 486
> 66MHz PC, slackware kernel 1.2.1. I formatted the master drive. But,
> I am still getting LILO prompt and when I liked to boot for DOS (it asks
> for it when dos is chosen ) I get : with the system disk inserted BOOT Couldn't
> find NTLDR. Removing the slave hdd I get all zeros and ones continously
> on the screen. Booting to linux still fine but root unable to
> mount and can'tr go further. Because I tried to install RedHad earlier
> with its own install and it formatted the linux native partitions
> which is fine. I am not sure whether the master boot record was on the
> master or slave drive.
>
> All I want to do now is to have LINUX only on this box and
> need help to remove the lilo and start installation of RedHat
> dist. Thanks for any help...
>
> --
> Jeff
Insert a DOS boot floppy with fdisk on it. bootup And type.
fdisk /mbr
Lilo is sent to bit heaven.
Take care.
Chris
--
Jupiter Server running Lucas-Lehmer Formula (MPRIME) 24/7 on Linux 2.0.35
In search of a new Mersenne Prime number(GIMPS)
http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm
-->> Don't waste idle CPU time! Put it to good use. <<--
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:35:24 -0500
Hi Johan;
Johan Kullstam wrote in message ...
>John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Johan Kullstam wrote:
>> >
>> > John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >
>> > > There are multiple reasons for and against going with an Alpha or PPC
>> > > vs. Intel... on of which is *all* the other hardware is Intel x86
based
>> > > and having *binary* compatibility is important.
>> >
>> > who cares about binary compatibility? just recompile!
>>
>> Ummm...try providing support to multiple scientists developing code on
>> their personal workstations (x86 based), running multiple jobs on
>> multiple machines, writing data to the same location (typically a
>> partition on their personal workstation), using the generated (binary)
>> data as input to other jobs on other machines...add to that the problems
>> of maintaining some type of version control over the software being
>> developed...so now add to that simply *recompiling* *all* the code that
>> has been developed, and make sure that the version of code (and
>> compilers, and libraries and utilities, and...) are the same on both the
>> x86 *and* the alpha / ppc machines... And on top of all that, the data
>> produce MUST BE CORRECT!
>
>if you want *identical* results, most of the problem is the
>bletcherous 80 bit float mode of the x86. are you using gcc/g77? you
>are aware that they spill the 80 bit registers into 64 temporaries.
>thus small changes in the code or fiddling with optimization switches
>can cause spillage in different places and hence small changes in the
>results.
80 bit floats are not a bad thing, it is bad for a compiler not to use them
correctly.
>
>intel should simply be avoided for any serious numerical work.
Hmm thats down right mean. Intel should be avioded when it does fit the
application domain. What you might want to say is that Intel is not a
cost effective way to do serious FP work. Even a farm of Intel machines
are questionable for some applications.
>
>that said, your numerical algorithms should be designed to handle
>variations in precision. if you have to bet that hard on the
>precision, your algorithm is ill-conditioned, i.e., broken.
>
>if you set your intel chips to do honest to god 64 bit ieee floating
>point, it will agree with the alpha. and since both are little-endian
>machines, binary data transfer isn't that bad either.
>
>> So, while in concept having an alpha or ppc machine on the LAN with x86
>> machines is good idea, in practice there are a lot of minor problems and
>> it introduces a lot of places for bugs to enter the processing
>> setup...
>
>just using x86 all on its own introduces a lot of problems.
>
>and if you use the 36 bit address space, the new code will hardly be
>compatible with the other x86 stuff. therefore, you still lose.
>
>> > if it's some proprietary offering, chances are it would never be
>> > offered in 32+32 bit large mode. even if linux were to support it,
>> > it'd be a bitch to port.
>> >
>> Like I said, I don't care about the 36 bit address space, just the
>> bandwidth issue (described below) and getting the most bang for the
>> buck...
>
>i thought the whole damned point of this whole thread was the 36 bit
>address space!!!! is the subject completely meaningless? what is it
>you are *really* trying to say?
>
>sorry for the rant but i am sorry intel arches really lose and there's
>no fixing that.
>
>--
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike)
Subject: Re: Xwindows too BIG
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 04:47:34 GMT
what resolution are you choosing when you run Xconfigurator? it sounds
like 640x480 which will be huge on a 17". Try 1024x768 or if you have
several resolutions available Ctrl-Alt-+ like the other poster said
HTH
mike
On 5 Mar 1999 23:31:37 GMT, Terry Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Another newbie here. Sorry if this is stupid.
>
>I'm running Mandrake 5.3 with a 17" Sony monitor with a graphics
>
>card with a Riva 128 chipset.
>
>I start X windows with startx. The problem. Everything is huge ie.
>
>the mouse pointer is the size of my thumb and everything reaches outside
>
>the boundaries of my monitor. Moving or resizing various applications
>
>doesn't bring them fully into the screen area. I've tried various settings
>
>by running Xconfigurator, editing XF86Config to get my exact monitor
>
>specs and nothing seems to work. I have searched everything that I can
>
>think of. Any help will be sincerely appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Terry D
>
>------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Open source MS bad for Linux?
Date: 5 Mar 1999 00:50:10 GMT
One of the proposed "remedies" for MicroSoft when they lose (almost a given at
this point, but let's save the champagne :-) would be to force them to "open
source" all of their OS products. While it sounds great, what I'm afraid it
would mean is that instead of one version of MS Windows, there would be dozens of
implementations, as exists with Linux. Only problem is, there's already an
existing user base of tens of millions out there.
Of course, I think that the real "remedy" will be a severe fine (one or two day's
profits) and a stern warning to "don't let me catch you doing that again".
My old man never caught me twice at anything, I was too smart :-)
--
dillon pyron
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"When you swear to God in front of a lawyer, you'd
better keep your word, 'cause otherwise you'll run into
him in Hell". - Ken Kesey
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From: Erhard Siegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux VERY slow to boot
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:27:20 +0100
On Thu, 04 Mar 1999, "Craig Shields" wrote:
>>It's a DNS lookup problem.
>>Enter your IP's in /etc/hosts, and set /etc/host.conf to "order hosts,
>bind".
>
>Can I enter both of my IP's so that I don't have to change it manually each
>time? If not, is there any other way of doing this?.... i.e., some utility
>I can install.
You can use more than one IP-address for one net-device. You might
want to read the mini-howto IP-Alias.
Greetings
Erhard
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."
-Voltaire
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Pizzini)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: Speed of accessing tousands of files in a directory?
Date: 5 Mar 1999 00:34:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 04 Mar 1999 10:19:03 +0000, Philip Lijnzaad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> for i in `cat foo` ; do
>> operate $i
>> done
>
>> Will there be a problem with the command line length if there are 3k
>> lines in foo?
>
>yes, I think that's even the case for Linux. There is a limit on the stuff
>that gets passed in to exec* kernel calls using the char**argv and the
>environment.
Yes, but there's no stressed-out exec* call happening here. Whether
the above for loop works or not is purely a function whether the
particular shell implementation can swallow the huge quantity of
output from the backticked command.
> It looks like the total string length of all args and envvars
>is the relevant quantity, not the number of args per se. Anyway, the limit is
>imposed by the kernel, somewhere, and you'd have to recompile the kernel
>(and/or perhaps your compiler) to change it.
The compiler won't care, though the exec* stubs in the C libarary (libc)
might. (And definitely the kernel does have a limit, as you said [though
perhaps not on the Hurd].)
> Better, use the command xargs, which allows you to do
>things in chunks of a size of your choosing, along the following lines:
>
> cat foo | xargs -n500 bar -qwer
Useless Use Of Cat:
xargs -n500 bar -qwer <foo
Also, as I understood the problem, his "command" could only handle
one filename at a time, in which case the while loop is not noticably
different in performance, and offers a little more flexability (if
there should there be a need for more than one command to be executed).
--Ken Pizzini
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Help: Newbie doesn't know where to start with GNOME!
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 15:57:09 -0800
Plissken wrote:
>
> On Fri, 05 Mar 1999 21:08:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (WARGY) wrote:
>
> >
> >I've just installed Slackware 3.6 and have X running fine. I now want
> >to install that cool desktop thing called GNOME to help me feel at
> >home in Linux/X. I've been to www.gnome.org but I was gob-smacked
> >completely when it came to installation. Don't get me wrong but there
> >were so many files there and I didn't have a clue what I was meant to
> >download.
> >
> >Also, does anyone know why these Linux programs/utilities are so
> >complicated to install? I would've thought it was just one file that
> >did installation automatically... ok it's Linux but at least let us
> >Microsoft users try the alternative with a bit of ease. :-)
> >
> >Anyway, could some please guide me with the installation of GNOME (or
> >even KDE, if that's any better)? Thanks.
> >
> >WARGY
>
> Warg,
>
> I've tried to install GNOME as well, with no luck (I'm also a newbie),
> BUT, KDE installed without a hitch. I just followed the instructions
> from KDE's install guide and I was up and running. With GNOME, I just
> got tons of failed dependencies. I then installed with "--nodeps"
> which allowed the RPMs to install, but never found a file called
> .Xclients, .xinitrc, or any of the others listed on the GNOME
> install-guide, to modify. When I just tried running "exec
> gnome-session" on it, I got booted to a login prompt. Seems weird to
> me. I have X running fine with AfterStep and the other default Redhat
> WMs, and got KDE to install, but GNOME is a no-go.
Yeah, I bought a RedHat CD from linuxmall with that 6pack thing and it
came with some gnome RPMs...THEY didn't even install very easily, took
me a couple of tries and I finally hacked them in. Yep, the
--nodeps....on a RedHat system no less....rpm is supposed to work there
:P I got it to work though, but honestly didn't like it at all.
GNOME is almost impossible to install on a slackware box...I ruined mine
trying it and decided it would take less time erasing everything and
starting over then to clean up the mess I made trying to get it
working....I speant 5 days and downloaded megs and megs of dependancies
before it finaly still didn't compile. I would not recomend it be tried
by anyone....I put 500M worth of JUST GNOME dependancies trying to get
that fucker to work....and about 3 days into it I was to frustrated to
pay attention to what it was doing anymore....it would have taken me
weeeks to clean it all up, not even the most powerful uninstaller would
have helped me I had added so much nonsence to my system. But, this was
a long time ago, gnome was young, things may have changed some,...but I
doubt they did much...
KDE on the other hand,...I was using it and running flawlessly with
Beta1...not until I tried messing with the snapshots did I start running
into trouble, then Beta4 was a bad release so I stoped using it and got
back into the old way of doing things. I still like it better I think.
KDE is nice....and having tried both,...KDE IS SOOOOO MUCH NICER, much
more profesional design, I actually liked working in it....GNOME is very
much less then KDE...
I played with KDE1 (or close) in SuSE a while back,...its still a lot
the same as it was back then...there are things I would have liked to be
different, but all and all it is quite nice. The developers did one
fine job.
GNOME seems to be a RedHat baby, they never did a very good job of
making sure it worked on other platforms....KDE on the other
hand,...well they just did a better job.
Both could be improved greatly. You actually loose quite a bit from
those setups, and gain very little in return...just a common UI and some
DnD...with some time you can get a better UI tailor made...and DnD is
becoming more commonplace. Currently in the back of my mind I am
working on a desktop protocol were people can create applications thatw
ill run in any environment and behave like they do in KDE and
GNOME....the resources are all there, unused. I will be taking a more
minimalistic approach then the current solutions, I personally think it
is a better one.
BTW, your little problem....the .xinitrc and .Xclients are file that you
create in your home directory to configure your X environment. Not sure
what .Xclients does, but .xinitrc is sort of the startup script for
X...if you want it to run when X boots up, you put it in there. There
is also a system xinitrc file somewere in X11/lib/X11 or so which will
change everyone's environemnt untill they create thier own .xinitrc
file. Your other problem,...no idea when I tried gnome I ran 'panel &'
from an xterm. Your window manager should be the last thing run in the
.xinitrc file, it should not have an '&' after it, but everything else
should unless you want it to finish execution first.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 23:22:42 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Richard Latimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>I think you are right. There is a great deal of difference in what
>100-200 million Windows users take for granted and what Unix users
>assume cuts the mustard.
Most of the Windows users I know who use Usenet's technical newsgroups
tend to use text when posting. Is that not the same for you?
>It's as if the unix community has been locked in the closet with the
>server for twenty years.
I believe that it's better to use inexpensive, stable, flexible, and
OPEN technology on my desktop than to use expensive, nondeterministic,
inflexible fluff like Microsoft markets to the public.
You can choose differently if you wish. That's fine. But coming in
here and wasting our time by tossing out insults isn't all that cool,
and certainly isn't going to win you much support. Please go away.
>From the discussions that take place in these newsgroups, it
>seems that the average unix user hasn't any idea what can be
>done with Windows desktop software.
I use both Windows NT and Windows 95 here as well as several other
operating systems, thank you. But I have my own preferences, and
IMSNShO non-textual material has no business whatsoever being posted
on Usenet. Period.
If you want pretty sounds and images, go play on the web.
>Suggestions that the guy looking for capable news reader set up
>a newsgroup server and read its output with a console app are
>really very sad.
It depends on his needs. Suggestions that he use a glorified image
viewer with weak or nonexistant scoring capabilities is pretty sad as
well, at least in my eyes. Usenet is information, not multimedia.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Mailed:020191 Cashed:YES ID# avail:YES Disk:YES(2)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
From: Geoffrey KEATING <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 06 Mar 1999 16:21:43 +1100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephan Schulz) writes:
...
> Or, to be obvious, if I take the novel "Snow Crash" and distribute it
> as a list of individual words in alphabetic order (non-copyrightable)
> and offer a web-page which gives me a list of numbers that say which
> word goes were, I _am_ violating copyright, even though the user is
> the one that puts the novel together again.
Because your list of numbers is a translation of the original novel.
However, if you write a document called "Analysis of the use of the
word "snow" in the novel _Snow Crash_", which refers to each page on
which the word is used, you can distribute it without violating
copyright---not just because it's probably fair use, but because it
doesn't actually contain a significant part of the novel.
--
Geoff Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Where is psaux.c ?
Date: 6 Mar 1999 00:47:38 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Regit Young wrote:
> Where is psaux.c in the 2.2.* source tree ?
There is none. However, the file drivers/char/pc_keyb.c has
the possibly relevant comment
> * Combined the keyboard and PS/2 mouse handling into one file,
> * because they share the same hardware.
> * Johan Myreen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1998-10-08.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Darrick J. Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Matrox G200 PCI support Linux??
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:03:19 -0600
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Here is as good of place as any to get the 3.3.3.1.rpm file...
ftp://ftp.infomagic.com/pub/mirrors/linux/RedHatUpdates/5.2/i386/
Darrick
Douglas Cole wrote:
> wondering where I can get the 3.3.3 X as an RPM , I am new to this stuff and am not
> sure of where to go to get it , any help would sincerely be appreciated, I would
> like to get X running on my cyrix media GX board , please reply by email as my news
> feed is intermittent :^(
> Douglas Cole
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Mike Dowling wrote:
>
> > On 15 Feb 1999 10:22:48 -0700, Tom Trebisky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >Mike Dowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 03:52:42 +1100, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>I'm running XFree 3.3.3-1 and I have a strange problem: ....
> > >>
> > >>..... When I upgraded to 3331, most of the
> > >>X11 binaries produced segmentation faults. The fix was to re-compile them,
> > >>but netscape is well and truly dead. I did not have this problem at home
> > >>where I use the XS3 chip. My two Linux boxes are otherwise identical, so
> > >>put it down to problems with the G200 support.
> > >
> > >Well, I have a G200 AGP card, I installed RH 5.2, then got the XFree 3.3.3
> > >rpm's (just maybe the 3.3.3-1), and dumped them in (took 2 passes for some
> > >reason), and I am running perfectly.
> >
> > 333 ran almost perfectly for me too. I only had a very rare problem that
> > caused the X server to consume all the CPU it could get. On a computer
> > running 24 hrs/day, this would happen perhaps once a week, and I really
> > cannot be certain that XFree was to blame.
> >
> > The segmentation faults only started with 3.3.3.1. They had definitely
> > modified XF86_SVGA, as previously, every time I changed to text mode, I
> > would get a message on the console that started X; now I don't.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike
> >
> > --
> > My email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] above is a valid email address.
> > It is, in fact, a sendmail alias; the digit 'N' is incremented regularly.
> > Spammed aliases will be deleted. Currently, mike[5,7,8] have been deleted.
> > If email to mikeN bounces, try mikeN+1.
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