Linux-Misc Digest #324, Volume #27 Fri, 9 Mar 01 20:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: memory management (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: users can mount? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Prob with SMC Ether EZ and Ether Power netcard (Dave Brown)
Re: Netscape 4.75 icons turned black and white ("J Smith")
Re: Problem connecting to AT&T @Home service using SuSE Linux (Paul Lew)
bind, bind8, bind9 (Paul Lew)
CD automount broke ("Charles Sutherland")
Re: bind, bind8, bind9 ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: users can mount? (Silviu Minut)
Re: suse 7.1 (John Hasler)
Does GNapster work on FreeBSD ? (Arctic Storm)
dump (the backup program) (Kevin)
Re: Switching To Linux From Windows (Michael Perry)
Re: Small distro install from floppy? (H Dziardziel)
Re: Partition Table corrupted (H Dziardziel)
Re: I've downloaded the ISO file. Now what do I do with it? I've (riceman)
Re: Prob with SMC Ether EZ and Ether Power netcard ("Harold F. Bower")
Re: Need file from RPM (Wilhelm Wienemann)
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: memory management
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:10:28 -0500
Mihai Cartoaje wrote:
>
> I have noticed that the Slackware boot disk comes with a
> moderately-featured kernel, and yet when typing "free" after
> booting, less than 1.5MB are occupied.
>
> Conversely, on RedHat, after installing a minimal kernel, removing
> all init services except keymap, removing all mingettys and
> executing directly /bin/sh, there are still 3.9 MB occupied.
>
> Would anyone tell me how to fine-tune RedHat so that it takes as
> little memory as Slackware, or what causes the difference?
>
I do not know why there is a difference, but the chances are that the
difference is in the amount of buffer or disk cache space used. Since
the Linux kernel manages these, and tends to keep such space occupied,
I suppose that RedHat has used more IO buffers or more disk cache
space in coming up than Slackware did.
Since the kernel can re-use that memory space anytime it is needed, I
would not worry about it.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 4:05pm up 6 days, 23:10, 3 users, load average: 2.19, 2.13, 2.05
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: users can mount?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:11:09 -0500
Martin Greco wrote:
>
> I want to give common users mount priviliege, but I don't know how to...
>
> I tried to give user x permission of the mount file, but it won't work
> (only root can do that)
> any tip?...
>
man fstab
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Prob with SMC Ether EZ and Ether Power netcard
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Mar 2001 16:35:52 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>I tried to use either the SMC Ether EZ (8416)
>or SMC 9432 TX (Ether Power II)
>under SuSe 6.4
>I could not find the driver for the first card. And also the second
>listed as experimental did not work neither compiled as a module nor
>embedded in the kernel.
I use an SMC Ether EZ card, but it's product number is something like
"1211TX". It uses the rtl8139 module (shows up in the network devices
when you enable "experimental" code).
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: "J Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.75 icons turned black and white
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:31:18 -0800
Thank you so much. The computer looks better at 16-bit, now
I try to look at as many FAQ's as possible, but the the sherr volumn of
learning Linux is a lot for an advanced beginner.
Sorry if I seem ignorant.
I will be more vigilant in the future.
SuSE 7.1 is awesome.
> >I have an unusual situation where all the icons in Netscape 4.75 turned
> >black and white, in Caldera 2.4 eDesktop and Corel, and in SUSE 7.0
> This is not a new problem. It's coming up because Netscape can be very
> stupid about the X-server's color depth. Netscape understands 1-bit,
> 8-bit, 16-bit, and 32-bit color depths, but panics and thinks that
> 24-bit color is 1-bit color, hence the B/W icons.
>
> This info has been on the SuSE FAQ site since before May 1999; did you
> check there? The fix is to run SaX or XF86Setup or whatever and select
> 32-bit or 16-bit color depth. This should actually speed up graphics
> operations as all the pixels will be aligned on word boundaries.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Problem connecting to AT&T @Home service using SuSE Linux
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 22:36:16 GMT
On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 18:30:03 -0000, sandeep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I installed SuSE lunux 7.0 on my Home PC but am unable to access the net.
>I have an cable modem connection from @Home.
>
>The YaST2 utility which comes with this version of SuSE is able to lacate
>the Cable Modem hardware but is not able to get an IP address from the
>@Home server. As the @Home service uses DHCP to assign I.P. address I
>changed the dhclient.conf file to add the DHCP client ID but when I try to
>start dhclient in give me an error saying :-
>
>SIOCSIFFLAGS : No such device.
>
>and stops after a few try saying no offer received.
>
>I have no idea what those strange sequence of characters stand for and why
>the linux dhcp client is not able to generate the IP when the windows dhcp
>which is provided on the @HOME CD is able to do so.
>
>Please advice.
>
You need to use yast to configure/activate your nic; the @home cd probably
checked for and configured your windows for @home even tho one doesn't
need to use the cd to enable access.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: bind, bind8, bind9
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 22:43:56 GMT
Time for another question. I have read about some diff between bind &
bind8 as in sys V and bsd; SuSE 7.1 now has bind9 available and a much
larger rpm file. Of course there are conflicts between bind and bind8
and I do expect to see notification of conflicts with bind if I try to
install bind9 (bind8 and bindutil were uninstalled).
Does bind9 do some magical things???
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From: "Charles Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD automount broke
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:49:52 +0500
I have RedHat 7. I recently upgraded to Helix-Gnome or Ximian as they
like to be called. I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it, but
that was the latest major change.
Well, now (and I'm not sure exactly when it happened) automound of the CD
drive just stopped working. A symlink to the CD popped up on my desktop
which I can click to mount the cdrom, but the whole wonderful gnomish
thing of popping in a CD and having the symlink show up doesn't work
anymore. I'm sure I've done something silly, but I can't for the life of
me figure out what that is.
Here's another example. The RH7 PowerTools disk normally asks if you
want to run the autorun program. It has stopped asking.
The only other thing I can think of is I installed a new sound card and
ran the cable to the CD so I could play CDs through the sound card.
disconnecting that cable (and even rebooting) didn't help any.
Can anyone help?
Thanks.
This is really for my Dad's new machine. I want to get it set up as much
point and click as I can before I let him at it.
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bind, bind8, bind9
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:56:41 -0700
> Time for another question. I have read about some diff between bind &
> bind8 as in sys V and bsd; SuSE 7.1 now has bind9 available and a much
> larger rpm file. Of course there are conflicts between bind and bind8
> and I do expect to see notification of conflicts with bind if I try to
> install bind9 (bind8 and bindutil were uninstalled).
>
> Does bind9 do some magical things???
They all do magical things - like allowing easy root access to most anyone
that wants it. You're better off with a secure DNS server such as djbdns.
steve
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: users can mount?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 18:02:16 -0500
Add the "user" option in /etc/fstab. Like so:
/dev/hda1 /mnt/dos vfat
user,exec,umask=000 0 0
Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> Martin Greco wrote:
> >
> > I want to give common users mount priviliege, but I don't know how to...
> >
> > I tried to give user x permission of the mount file, but it won't work
> > (only root can do that)
> > any tip?...
> >
> man fstab
>
> --
> .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
> /V\ Registered Machine 73926.
> /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
> ^^-^^ 4:10pm up 6 days, 23:15, 3 users, load average: 2.13, 2.12, 2.06
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suse 7.1
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:40:31 GMT
Young4ert writes:
> I believe most Linux distros don't provide all their distros in an ISO
> format for download for a number of reasons, i.e. the inclusion of
> commercial programs (as mentioned above). I have been looking for ISO
> CDs of anykind of Linux distro and only found mostly the ISO of their 1st
> CD.
http://cdimage.debian.org/
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Does GNapster work on FreeBSD ?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 23:36:14 GMT
Sorry for the question, but,...
GNapster is a great tool for Linux.
Has anyone successfully used GNapster on FreeBSD?
If so, how?
Thanks.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dump (the backup program)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 23:39:24 GMT
I've used dump & restore for years with great results on Sun and
other Unix systems.
How does the Linux dump (version 0.4b18) stack up for reliability
and features compared to the historical dump package?
--
Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Switching To Linux From Windows
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 23:40:23 -0000
On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:25:41 -0600, John Thompson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>
>> Stan McCann wrote:
>> >
>> > One of the things I like
>> > about Linux over Win is less need to reboot. I too, am fed up with Win
>> > problems. I wish that I could get some of my applications going on
>> > Linux so I could say goodbye to windows. For instance, I still use
>> > Quicken on windows; I just haven't found anything suitable for Linux
>> > yet? Intuit! Are you listening?
>
>> Intuit never listens. They add features, but never remove bugs. Almost
>> two years ago, they sent me a great offer for the Quicken 2000. I
>> wrote them saying I would not be purchasing any new releases of
>> Quicken until would run satisfactorally on Linux, not the half-hearted
>> versions they seem to supply for MacIntoshes. They did reply, saying
>> they would turn my suggestion over to engineering.
>
>Many years ago, I bought a copy of Quicken v4 for Win3.1. It ran
>fine on my OS/2 system under Win-OS/2. Over the years I have had
>many offers from Intuit to "upgrade" my Quicken, but as the newer
>versions required Win9x, I never bothered. I too told Quicken I
>would consider upgrading if they made a native version for OS/2,
>and later for linux. As you note, this has not happened.
>
>However, my old copy of Quicken still works fine under Win-OS/2
>on my other machine. It does not run under Wine for some
>reason. It does run fine from Win98 in a linux VMware session so
>if my OS/2 machine ever packs it in I'll still be able to balance
>my checkbook and follow my investments. Looking at the newer
>versions of Quicken I get the feeling that the bulk of the
>improvements are eye candy, smarmy "wizards," inane multimedia
>"tutorials" and further opportunities to pay for on-line services
>I don't really need. I guess I'll pass on the upgrade for now...
>:-)
>
I have a few of those applications on my warp 4 partition, John :) Several
email programs were just so well made (mr2ice for example) that I still use
it and get email every once in awhile from Nick about new versions. I have
moved some things that require the later stuff to a system I have running
win4lin which seems a lot nicer on the required resources.
There are a few programs which still live in win-os2 land for me which work
fine but have had the newer ones come out that I gazed at and dismissed. I
still use an older version of visio that works fine and turbocad. For what
I do I don't need the new versions.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H Dziardziel)
Subject: Re: Small distro install from floppy?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 23:46:13 GMT
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:18:39 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam
=?iso-8859-2?Q?Podstawczy=F1ski?=) wrote:
>Stan McCann, napisa�o Ci si�:
>> Can anyone point me toward a small distro that I can install on an old
>> 486 laptop? I have spent hours searching and keep coming up with single
>> floppy distros that boot and install into RAM but I want something that
>> I can actually install onto the laptop's hard drive. I want to be able
>> to use the laptop for demo's of small cgi programs so it must be able to
>> run a web server, perl, gui, and web browser. I don't really need
>> anything else to run on it as it won't be hooked to a network and with
>> only 8Mb RAM and a 270Mb hard drive, it will be pushing the machine to
>> do what I want. Thanks.
>
>Hi. Mulinux has the option of hard-disk install; this minidistribution is
>well-maintained, full of tools and features, and besides, the author's
>ubiquituous remarks add fun.
>
>--
>Adam Podstawczy�ski
>Linuks�ownik: http://kolos.math.uni.lodz.pl/ap/linukslownik/
You can say that again! It is a marvelous work and an excellent
tutorial in scripting too. Run it from ram (floppy only), dos
partition, or full ext2 and even a floppyless install download.
Add X, mail,mc etc. It will easily run on your system.
Outstanding work and like you say, written with pizzazz.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H Dziardziel)
Subject: Re: Partition Table corrupted
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:02:29 GMT
On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:00:18 -0800, Chi Wai Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Just have some urgent questions to ask: is it at all possible to recover
>some of my data if my partition table is lost?
>
> The situation is as follows: I installed win95 long time ago, and
>install Linux recently. The partition layout is:
>
>win_c | win_d | swap | Linux | hypernation for laptop |
>
> I have backed up data in the windows partition (c: and d:), and then I
>installed win98, change c: and d: to FAT32, and then I decided to install
>win95 instead of win98, so I format the c: and d: and reboot the computer
>with DOS6.2, and it said the computer is not configured to install DOS 6.2
>( I think it's because it's in FAT32 ), so it asked to configure c: to be
>able to install DOS 6.2, and then when I reboot the computer, the
>partition table is lost. I booted the computer with DOS and try to see the
>partition with fdisk and there is only one DOS partition of about 2G. I tried
>using the Linux boot disk created by
>mkbootdisk but 'kernel panic' appear. I'm just wondering if it's at all
>possible
>to recover the data in the Linux partition, even if it's a painful way.
>
> Let me know your answer asap,
>
> Thanks,
>regards,
>Sau
>
As long as the Linux partition was not formatted everything is still
there. You will have to recreate the partitioning (table). Hopefully
you remember-trial and error can take time. Don't forget at least two
of those partitions are logicals in an extended. A third party
partition tool like the excellent Ranish will make things easier.
Next time do not mix dos and win fdisks as they have different
partition schemes and keep in mind dos6/7 sees only total 8gb, 2gb at
a time per partition and only if fat 16. Use the third party tool
for multi o/s setups if possible but in any case do not mix one o/s
partition tool into another o/s partition.
Good luck.
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From: riceman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,linux.redhat,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: I've downloaded the ISO file. Now what do I do with it? I've
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:22:20 GMT
So you have solved your problem. That's great. Have fun with Linux.
Newbie from Win98 wrote:
> The problem is with the Wizard that starts at runtime of Nero. It asks do
> you want to burn a Data/Audio/Mix CD. If you answer the wizard questions
> then the option for Burn Image is not in the drop down file menus. Instead
> you must cancel the Wizard immediately.
>
> Then click on File, now you can see an option called Burn Image - select
> this.
> Then choose the file you want to burn - ISO is not the default file it
> searches for so change the "*.nrg" for the option "*.* all files". This
> will allow your ISO files to be visible.
> Select your ISO file.
> Drag it across.
> Click the usual Burn button.
> Follow the usual comments and your ISO will be burned!
>
> Regards.
> "riceman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Unfortunately I don't have NERO on this win98 machine, but I'll try to
> help you
> > anyways.
> >
> > Consider the ISO file sorta like a ZIP file ( without compression).
> The ISO
> > has all the directories and files needed to install Suse on you computer.
> >
> > Consider your CD burning software sorta like winzip. However, your
> Nero
> > software won't allow you to extract the ISO file to your hard drive, ( at
> least
> > not that I know of. IF anyone knows that nero can do this please correct
> me. )
> > Nero should however take that ISO file and open it up to your blank cdr or
> cdrw
> > disk by burning it to CD. Go into Nero, look in your drop down menu's (
> and
> > possible sub menus ) for an option called "create disk from image file".
> They
> > may phrase it differently. Also if I remember Nero correctly ( it's on my
> office
> > server but I haven't seen it in months) there's a list or CD making
> options on
> > the left column of the screen. There may be an option there to make a cd
> from an
> > ISO file. If you can find that option point Nero to your ISO image and
> click
> > burn.
> >
> > I hope this helps somewhat. Unfortunately I won't be at the office
> anytime
> > soon or I would try this myself and give you a step by step. Perhaps some
> in
> > these news groups that uses Nero could write a mini-How-To?
> >
> >
> Good
> > Luck, Jeremy
> >
> > Newbie from Win98 wrote:
> >
> > > An example of a frustrating How To is here. The question asks exactly
> what
> > > I want to do, the reply mentions how to do it under Linux and points to
> an
> > > out of date, non-Windows way of doing it. Then the person who asked the
> > > original question writes back saying:
> > >
> > > "Jim,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your information. And ironically, shortly (next day) after I
> > > wrote you the email, I did find out what was going wrong and how to fix
> it.
> > >
> > > WinOnCD did have the capability, but it was somewhat a "hidden" feature
> of
> > > sorts.
> > >
> > > I do appreciate your response, though.
> > >
> > > -Lewis"
> > >
> > > He didn't even mention how he did it in WinOnCD!!!! ARRggghhh!
> > >
> > > Please please please can some one help me to make my ISO file, which
> took
> > > hours to download, into a bootable CD so that I can install my first
> ever
> > > Linux OS.
> > >
> > > And my PC is bootable from CD. I've been able to run YAST2 (setup
> program
> > > from SuSE) on a floppy and it can detect my hardware so I am confident
> the
> > > install will be okay once it gets going. YAST2 stops when it gets as
> far as
> > > asking for the boot CD, I tell it my CDROM and it says that the CD is
> not a
> > > valid, please insert CD 1. I also tried out a floppy from SuSE with the
> > > "bootdisk" file and that also asks for a CD. It must be that the ISO
> file
> > > copied onto a CD is not enough.
> > >
> > > Basically I've copied the ISO straight to a CD. Should I do something
> else
> > > to put it on the CD? Please remember I do not have any Linux on my PC,
> just
> > > Windows 98.
> > >
> > > "Newbie from Win98" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:986t5o$ba0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > please can you help me? I've included more information as well as
> adding
> > > > another Newsgroup (alt.os.linux) so I am re-posting this. Please see
> if
> > > you
> > > > can help me as I have now spent over 2 days searching the internet and
> > > > reading everything I can get my hands on but so far it hasn't helped
> me.
> > > >
> > > > I've downloaded the SuSE EVal 7_0 ISO file. Now what do I do with it?
> > > I've
> > > > burned a CD and it won't boot with it. Do I need to unzip it or
> > > something?
> > > > I can see the ISO file on the CD under Windows 98.
> > > >
> > > > I used Nero Burning ROM software v4.0.5.0 that came free with my
> Creative
> > > > CD-RW. I can see the ISO file on the CD in Windows. There was a
> mention
> > > in
> > > > the Nero Help File of being able to Burn an Image but this option was
> not
> > > > where the help file said it would be so I could not do a "Burn Image".
> > > > Something tells me this is my downfall.
> > > >
> > > > I do not have any copies of Linux on this box and I have not installed
> > > Linux
> > > > before. All the HOW-TO's mention making an ISO bootable from within
> > > Linux,
> > > > none actually specify how to do this completely under Windows.
> > > >
> > > > The filename is: live-evaluation-i386-70.iso
> > > >
> > > > It's my first time trying Linux so please be gentle with me, no flames
> > > > please.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help you an give me.
> > > >
> > > > Martin.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 19:43:02 +0000
From: "Harold F. Bower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Prob with SMC Ether EZ and Ether Power netcard
Uwe Brauer wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I tried to use either the SMC Ether EZ (8416)
> or SMC 9432 TX (Ether Power II)
> under SuSe 6.4
> I could not find the driver for the first card. And also the second
> listed as experimental did not work neither compiled as a module nor
> embedded in the kernel.
>
> Anybody has experience on this
>
> Thanks
>
> Uwe Brauer
I use an SMC EtherEZ (8416) in a TurboLinux system. It uses the
'smc-ultra' driver, but be sure that the IO and IRQ are set correctly.
I recommend that you get the EEPROM configuration utility from SMC's web
site (it is a DOS utility unfortunately) and set the parameters as you
like.
Hal
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Wienemann)
Subject: Re: Need file from RPM
Date: 10 Mar 2001 00:08:09 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Wienemann)
Am Fri, 09 Mar 2001 um 14:18 GMT schrieb
Runu Knips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
in comp.os.linux.misc:
> I need to get a file from a ".rpm" archive. Unfortunately, it
> is a RPM 4.0 format archive, which my system is unable to read.
> I only need this single file and I don't at all want to install
> it into my system.
Sorry, I'm not up-to-date with the recent RPM but your problem
I solved it here all the time with 'mc' (Midnight Commander).
With 'mc' you are be able to extract the file you want from
the rpm-package.
bye - Wilhelm
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