Linux-Misc Digest #337, Volume #19 Sat, 6 Mar 99 20:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? ("David A. Frantz")
Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project (David Fox)
Re: gnome 1.0 install and required library RPM upgrades (jik-)
Re: Newsreader for Linux (David Magda)
NT-linux dual boot (Trausti Thor Kristjansson)
Re: Adjust time drift? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Cannot Remove LILO from MBR (root)
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Anthony D. Tribelli)
Re: Text editors (ag)
Re: Xdm, then xsession??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Cannot Remove LILO from MBR (Cevher Dogan)
Re: glibc2.1.x + gnu.org 'political issues'?? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash? (Ralph Alvy)
Re: Motif-Libraries ("Marc D. Williams")
Re: UMSDOS on FAT32? ("Marc D. Williams")
2.2.1 module problems HELP! (Jeremy)
Open Source Office Package? IDE? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
System V style ps (Tim Rice)
Re: Cannot Remove LILO from MBR (Christopher)
Re: SMP MP3 problems (Anonymous)
Need CDE for Red Hat Linux 5.2 (SPACE)
Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash? (Reinhard Karcher)
Re: UTMP-file? (Gary Momarison)
Re: PPP connection ... Help (Bill Unruh)
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:27:48 -0500
John Burton wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Johan Kullstam wrote:
>>
>> John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > There are multiple reasons for and against going with an Alpha or PPC
>> > vs. Intel... on of which is *all* the other hardware is Intel x86 based
>> > and having *binary* compatibility is important.
>>
>> who cares about binary compatibility? just recompile!
>
>Ummm...try providing support to multiple scientists developing code on
>their personal workstations (x86 based), running multiple jobs on
>multiple machines, writing data to the same location (typically a
>partition on their personal workstation), using the generated (binary)
>data as input to other jobs on other machines...add to that the problems
>of maintaining some type of version control over the software being
>developed...so now add to that simply *recompiling* *all* the code that
>has been developed, and make sure that the version of code (and
>compilers, and libraries and utilities, and...) are the same on both the
>x86 *and* the alpha / ppc machines... And on top of all that, the data
>produce MUST BE CORRECT!
>
>So, while in concept having an alpha or ppc machine on the LAN with x86
>machines is good idea, in practice there are a lot of minor problems and
>it introduces a lot of places for bugs to enter the processing setup...
Sounds like the problem here is that you are growing you application to the
point that they require more than capablity than you would get from a PC.
Sounds like you should just scrap the PCs an move to RS6000 or something of
that nature. Your problem reminds me of a couple of engineering
departments I know of. They standardized on a PC platform running AutoCAD
thinking it would suit there needs, but got left behind trying to keep up
with vendors running Catia on real work stations. So now the PCs are used
as drafting tables instead of design aids.
Thats not to say that using a PC to do engineering work is a bad thing its
just that you have a growth problem centered around a couple of things.
These are: 1. MS operating systems, 2. 32 bit address space, 3. very poor
scalability, 4. Floating Point as an after thought. Of these the one
thing that sneaks up on many PC users is the 32 bit address space issue.
>
>>
>> if it's some proprietary offering, chances are it would never be
>> offered in 32+32 bit large mode. even if linux were to support it,
>> it'd be a bitch to port.
>>
>Like I said, I don't care about the 36 bit address space, just the
>bandwidth issue (described below) and getting the most bang for the
>buck...
Look closely at the Alphas memory bandwidth.
>
>> > That said, I too am interersted in this topic for the simple reason
>> > that the 450NX chipset motherboards can support 4 way interleaving
>> > of memory, plus the use of alternate (4 32bit PCI buses, 2 64bit PCI
>> > buses or 2 32bit & 1 64bit PCI buses) bus structure, up to 8 Xeon
>> > CPUs (with cluster controller)... I'm not as interested in the size
>> > of the address space as much as the size of the memory bandwidth and
>> > I/O bus structure...
>>
>> sgi, sun, the former dec all make *much* better high end machines.
>>
>> --
>> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
>> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Don't Fear the Penguin!
>
>John
>
>--
>John Burton, Ph.D.
>Senior Associate GATS, Inc.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11864 Canon Blvd - Suite 101
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) Newport News, VA 23606
>(757) 873-5920 (voice) (757) 873-5920 (fax)
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.portable,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project
Date: 06 Mar 1999 07:50:05 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Do those really cheap, but fast AMD processor based notebooks Frys
> sells work o.k. or are they problematic? The attraction is a
> $1400 pricetag VS the $2200 for a comparable Dell.
You could get a Pentium 233MMX thinkpad 560X from Micro Warehouse for
$1299.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome 1.0 install and required library RPM upgrades
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:04:29 -0800
Ben Sandler wrote:
>
> I downloaded all the RPMs for gnome (I have never installed it before,
> but I have some versions of the libraries), and when I run rpm -Uvh * on
> the directory, I get numerous messages about variosu packages such as
> gimp, grip, control-panel, linuxconf, etc needing older versions (mostly
> *.1) of gtk, gdk, and libglib. Will the upgrade break all these
> packages? Should I install concurrent copies of all the libraries? Any
> advice?
If the 2 versions are different minor versions and not teeny versions,
then there should be no conflict if you leave the 2 on the same system.
But you can only set it up so the compiler links to one of them, the
other will be just runtime support.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Magda)
Subject: Re: Newsreader for Linux
Date: 6 Mar 1999 03:45:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>hmm the information here is rather sparse. can you provide some more?
>can you make other binaries? ie is your compiler and library setup
>ok? do you have tk installed?
>are there any error messages from the build?
>what did get built? could the executable be hiding in some
>subdirectory?
By default the nn-tk binary isn't built. You have to uncomment the #define
TK line in the "config.h" file. I already replied to a previous post,
thought you might like to know.
--
David Magda <dmagda at acs.ryerson.ca>, 2nd Year Electrical Eng.
"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best--" and then he had to stop and think.
Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a
moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were,
but he didn't know what it was called. -A.A.Milne,The House at Pooh Corner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trausti Thor Kristjansson)
Subject: NT-linux dual boot
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 02:25:21 GMT
Hi,
I had linux and NT working on my machine in perfect harmony.
After upgrading to redhat 5.2, NT won't boot anymore.
The NT partition seems to be intact. I can mount it
and all seems well.
I am missing a file called Bootsect.dos, that one of the
HOWTO's mentions but everything else is there.
When I boot through LILO, I get the NT boot selector, and select
NT. NTDETECT works, but NTLOADER gives the error message:
cannot find:
<WINNT>System32/ntoskrnl.exe
or
cannot find:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)parition(3)/WINNT/System32/ntoskrnl.exe
if started in safe mode
but ntoskrnl.exe is there. Is Bootsec.dos the problem? (shouldn't
be since it is able to run ntdetect.com)
Any suggestions would be much appriciated!
Thanks,
Trausti
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Adjust time drift?
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 99 04:34:02 GMT
That would be correct provided you type the following command line:
xntp -c /etc/ntp.conf
and you only want to sync to one ntp server. If you want to sync to more
than one server add them on separate lines to your ntp.conf file. If you
want to automatically run xntp at start up you will also need to add an init
start file into rc2.d to initiate the daemon.
Hope this helps.
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cannot Remove LILO from MBR
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 22:48:15 -0600
>
try fdisk /mbr
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli)
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 05:16:09 GMT
Johan Kullstam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli) writes:
: > Restarting BIOS would change various BIOS variables so saving some of
: > these would make sense. I know the reset technique has been used quite a
: > bit, I'm only questioning the notion that there is an undocumented reset
: > instruction in the x86. The various methods of resetting the CPU I'm aware
: > of involve I/O instruction or descriptor table instructions.
:
: there's always the old tried and true method of physically grounding
: the reset pin. a little bit of logic between an output port and the
: reset and you could do it from software.
If we're going to resort to hardware then just add a switch. :-)
Tony
--
==================
Tony Tribelli
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: ag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Text editors
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 19:41:01 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greg wrote:
> >
> > I've just installed Red Hat 5.2. I am wondering if there is any
> > window-based editors.
> > I'm looking for an editor that works like textedit or jot on other UNIX
> > workstations or something like notepad in Windows95/98. Something simple
> > to create .txt, .html or .c files. Please help.
> >
> > Thank You
> > GK
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Try Nedit.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Xdm, then xsession???
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 21:36:34 -0800
Mike Freitas wrote:
>
> If I remember right, copy the system.fvwm2rc95 file to the users' home
> directory as .fvwm2rc95. This is the file that starts the window
> manager up. I believe there is a man on this too, if not see if you
> have a /usr/doc/fvwm95-2 directory and read what's inside.
>
> Hope this helps...
Is the system you are starting x applications on, taking longer to start due cpu
or memory
resources being maxed out? Run 'top' on the x server machine and view the stats.
After looking at my setup, the .xinitrc file in my home directory has 'exec
fvwm95' as the last line.
This starts fvwm95. The .fvwm95rc should be copied to users home directories to
customize there
X session. By default the system uses 'system.fvwm95rc' unless a user has there
own .fvwm95rc.
The xinitrc, xinitrc.fvwm95, or .xinitrc matters first though, I believe...
Hope this gets you farther...
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From: Cevher Dogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cannot Remove LILO from MBR
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 05:37:15 GMT
Christopher wrote:
>
> Cevher Dogan wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry if there was similar postings. I had my linux 2 years back and thought
> > I could do a new install without turning a page. I had 3.1, NT and Linux on 486
> > 66MHz PC, slackware kernel 1.2.1. I formatted the master drive. But,
> > I am still getting LILO prompt and when I liked to boot for DOS (it asks
> > for it when dos is chosen ) I get : with the system disk inserted BOOT Couldn't
> > find NTLDR. Removing the slave hdd I get all zeros and ones continously
> > on the screen. Booting to linux still fine but root unable to
> > mount and can'tr go further. Because I tried to install RedHad earlier
> > with its own install and it formatted the linux native partitions
> > which is fine. I am not sure whether the master boot record was on the
> > master or slave drive.
> >
> > All I want to do now is to have LINUX only on this box and
> > need help to remove the lilo and start installation of RedHat
> > dist. Thanks for any help...
> >
> > --
> > Jeff
>
> Insert a DOS boot floppy with fdisk on it. bootup And type.
The problem is that I am getting this error in either cases
when I boot with the system floppy already in the drive or
after LILO prompts me the choice and after I insert and try it.
It says: BOOT Couldn't find NTLDR, so I cannot boot to DOS
to do fdisk /mbr ... :(
>
> fdisk /mbr
>
> Lilo is sent to bit heaven.
> Take care.
> Chris
> --
> Jupiter Server running Lucas-Lehmer Formula (MPRIME) 24/7 on Linux 2.0.35
> In search of a new Mersenne Prime number(GIMPS)
> http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm
> -->> Don't waste idle CPU time! Put it to good use. <<--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: glibc2.1.x + gnu.org 'political issues'??
Date: 6 Mar 1999 00:37:42 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jik- wrote:
> And
> what would a C library be doing with C++ code in it?
It seems to be solving a (binary) incompatibility
problem that occurs because egcs puts some symbols
(__register_frame_info and the like) into every
executable that it makes, C or C++. (Get the
glibc-2.1 source code from sourceware.cygnus.com
and look at the FAQ file.)
I guess that some people who would like glibc-2.1
to be compilable by the FSF's official gcc would
like to know, "what is a C compiler doing putting
C++ code in everything"?
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Ralph Alvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash?
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 06:12:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Wulin Suo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can someone please tell why when I visit the freshmeat.net with Netscape
> it crashes all the time?
> I had that trouble when I use netscape 4.08, and got worse after I
> installed netscape 4.5.
> When I check the log file it says "bus error". So far this site is
> the only place that crashes my
> navigator.
>
> Am I missing some library?
>
> Thanks.
>
I have no problem accessing that Web site with Netscape 4.5 installed on
RedHat 5.2 with the following libraries installed:
glibc-2.0.7-29
libc-5.3.12-28
Interesting site. Bookmarked it right away.
Ralph
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:04:33 -0800
From: "Marc D. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Motif-Libraries
On 4 Mar 1999 13:15:20 GMT, Marcus Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am new LINUX user. I tried to install an astro-program xephem. xephem
>only runs under motif. I need for linking static libraries for motif. I
>downloded lesstif, but it seems for me very difficult to produce the
>right libraries whitout destroying our running LINUX-mail-server.
>
Do `ldd xephem' to find out exactly what motif version is was
compiled for. If Motif 2.x then lesstif may or may not work with it
anyway as it is Motif 1.2 compatible (some 2.x stuff has been added
to the latest, though).
Maybe you could find a statically-linked version of xephem.
Your mail server runs under Motif?
Anyway, another newsgroup that may be of help is
comp.windows.x.motif
Some other related groups with low or no traffic (it seems) are
the linux.motif groups (.clone, .clone.lesstif).
--
>>ANIME SENSHI<<
Marc D. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html -- DOS Internet
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/
-- Windows 3.x Makeover
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:03:55 -0800
From: "Marc D. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: UMSDOS on FAT32?
On 4 Mar 1999 12:21:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I currently have an UMSDOS partition on a win95b partition.
>I've been thinking about converting the partion to fat32
>so that I might gain a extra couple hundred MB of storage.
>Does anyone know if you can put a UMSDOS partition on fat32?
>
I may be missing something but UMSDOS runs on top of a FAT
file system. You state that the UMSDOS ``partition'' is _on_
a win95b partition, ereforthay there's nothing to convert to
since it is already on FAT32 (this assumes Win95b is using
FAT32 which I think it does).
[tick tock tick tock. Getting my head out of my arse...]
I think there was discussion around here recently about
UMSDOS not supporting(?) or taking advantage of whatever it
is that makes FAT32 what it is (LFNs?).
If UMSDOS supported FAT32 directly it could also do away with
the EMD files (--linux-.---) or at least handle them in a way
to take advantage of LFNs since 8.3 is no longer an issue.
Anyway, maybe check dejanews for recent discussions.
--
>>ANIME SENSHI<<
Marc D. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html -- DOS Internet
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/
-- Windows 3.x Makeover
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From: Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2.2.1 module problems HELP!
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 00:38:02 +0000
Hi!
I saw a friend of mine upgrade to the 2.2.1 kernel, thought I would
give it a try (2.2.2 will not compile, errors out when compiling
tunnel.o, or one of those networking files). I read the Changes file and
upgraded to their specs. After recompiling the kernel many times, I
still cannot get the following to work:
#1 The kernel will not auto load any modules! kmod will not work! (yes,
I have it enabled in make config)
At first, my old version (2.0.35) would load modules just fine,
but now it will not load them either! (Using kerneld)
#2 My modem serial port is always busy. All apps that use my modem
report "/dev/ttyS2: Device or Resource unavailable"
But my mouse works. (serial mouse)
#3 I cannot get my ZIP Drive to work (old driver), I have tried all
combinations of modules and compiling it into the
Kernel, and parport into a module, or in the kernel, turning
auto probe on and off..... ect. I have not tried to use my
printer yet, (on the second port) Anyone got ppa (old driver)
working as a module under 2.2.X ?
Anyone have any ideas?? thanks! - Jeremy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Open Source Office Package? IDE?
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 00:28:42 GMT
Hi all,
Is there any open source office package available for Linux or is one under
development?
Is there any IDE (Integrated Development Environment) available for Linux,
like Visual C++?
BOB
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From: Tim Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: System V style ps
Date: 6 Mar 1999 01:18:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone know where I can find process status utilities for Linux
that use System V style command line options?
Ie. "ps -ef" instead of "ps ax"
Thanks.
--
Tim Rice Multitalents 707 887-1469
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From: Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cannot Remove LILO from MBR
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 01:45:18 -0600
Cevher Dogan wrote:
>
> Christopher wrote:
> >
> > Cevher Dogan wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Sorry if there was similar postings. I had my linux 2 years back and thought
> > > I could do a new install without turning a page. I had 3.1, NT and Linux on 486
> > > 66MHz PC, slackware kernel 1.2.1. I formatted the master drive. But,
> > > I am still getting LILO prompt and when I liked to boot for DOS (it asks
> > > for it when dos is chosen ) I get : with the system disk inserted BOOT Couldn't
> > > find NTLDR. Removing the slave hdd I get all zeros and ones continously
> > > on the screen. Booting to linux still fine but root unable to
> > > mount and can'tr go further. Because I tried to install RedHad earlier
> > > with its own install and it formatted the linux native partitions
> > > which is fine. I am not sure whether the master boot record was on the
> > > master or slave drive.
> > >
> > > All I want to do now is to have LINUX only on this box and
> > > need help to remove the lilo and start installation of RedHat
> > > dist. Thanks for any help...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeff
> >
> > Insert a DOS boot floppy with fdisk on it. bootup And type.
>
> The problem is that I am getting this error in either cases
> when I boot with the system floppy already in the drive or
> after LILO prompts me the choice and after I insert and try it.
> It says: BOOT Couldn't find NTLDR, so I cannot boot to DOS
> to do fdisk /mbr ... :(
>
What a minute are you using an NT boot disk? I'm getting a little confused here. Do
you have a plain old
dos disk? Not NT, not RH boot just plain old dos boot disk. If you put that in the
floppy and turn on
your computer it will boot and come up with a dos prompt. a:\>. Then type fdisk /mbr.
If that doesn't
work there is some problem.
Is bios looking to boot the floppy before the HD. What I mean is unless you changed
something or there is
a problem, you can always boot up a dos floppy. It doesn't matter what is on your MBR.
If you can try
your DOS boot disk on another machine and see if it does boot. That will eliminate the
boot disk as the
problem. You said you disconnected the HD. disconnect both HD's and try your boot
disk. If that doesn't
work you have the wrong type of boot disk or maybe you have a hardware problem, but I
don't think so. I
can't think of much else that could be the problem. A DOS boot disk is a DOS boot disk.
Chris
--
Jupiter Server running Lucas-Lehmer Formula (MPRIME) 24/7 on Linux 2.0.35
In search of a new Mersenne Prime number(GIMPS)
http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm
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From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SMP MP3 problems
Date: 6 Mar 1999 01:31:33 GMT
brandon reese miller wrote:
>
> I'm running 2.2.1 on a Dual P2-350 system. I use OSS SMP for the 2.2.x
kernels,
> and everytime I play mp3s, either using the old x11amp or any mp3 player
using
> mpg123 as the engine, eventually my whole system locks up. It doesn't if
> anything else or what else is running, it will just suddenly totally lock
up.
> I believe this to be an SMP kernel problem... but I'm not sure. When I
compile
> the same exact kernel non-SMP and use OSS 2.2.x non-SMP, I have no
problems.
> Any ideas?
>
> --
Not really, but I thought I might mention that I am running a 2.2.1-ac5 SMP
kernel on a dual PII 450 system and have had no problems using mpg123. I
play mp3s almost continuous (I use it straght from the command line).
================================================================================
> Brandon Miller
> Junior-Computer Engineering UIUC/TMG Student Operator for the NCSA
> http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~bmiller/resume.txt
>
> "Two thoughts may occur to some of you at this point: 'Oh, no, he's not
> going to get into assembly language and device-dependent code, is he?'
> and, 'Why bother with polygon filling--or, indeed, any drawing
> primitives--anyway? Isn't that what GUIs and third-party libraries are
> for?' To which I answer, 'Well, yes, I am,' and, 'If you have to ask,
> you've missed the magic of microcomputer programming.' Actually, both
> questions ask the same thing, and that is: 'Why should I, as a
programmer,
> have any idea how my program actually works?' Put that way, it sounds a
> little different, doesn't it?"
> --Michael Abrash
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From: SPACE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need CDE for Red Hat Linux 5.2
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 07:50:08 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi friends,
Did you have CDE for Red Hat Linux 5.2? Would you please inform me
where can I download it or is there any hacker site has such program?
Thanks a lot.
WL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Reinhard Karcher)
Date: 05 Mar 99 12:44:33 GMT
Subject: Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash?
Roger Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Under RH 5.1 and a 2.0.34 kernel, I have experienced crashes with both
>Netscape 4.08 and 4.5 when accessing Freshmeat. It doesn't happen every
>time I access Freshmeat, but it hasn't happened on any other sites.
I have no problems using Netscape 4.5 and 2.2.0 and 2.2.1 to access
Freshmeat. I use SuSE 6.0 and an updated Netscape 4.5 from ftp.suse.com.
Reinhard
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UTMP-file?
Date: 05 Mar 1999 23:55:43 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Armin Wenz) writes:
> when starting emacs and doing the first keystroke I get an
> errormessage like:
> while opening UTMP-File: No such file or directory
>
> Lately I got the same Error when booting from my Boot-Disc
>
> Can anybody tell me, what this UTMP-File is and where it should be -
> or better, what does this Error-messi (really) mean?
NOTICE: Please request help on comp.os.linux.help or one of the other
linux newsgroups, leaving this one for miscellaneous discussions.
I, for one, am only answering couple of help requests at most per day
on this newsgroup, just for the opportunity to post this notice.
The error message means some program couldn't find the UTMP file.
I think you just need an empty one owned by root with 644 privileges.
On my sys that would be made with ">/var/run/utmp".
Do "man utmp" for more details and where it should be on your sys.
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: PPP connection ... Help
Date: 6 Mar 1999 08:00:49 GMT
In <7bp6rp$2ub$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Hi, there:
> I'm trying to set up PPP connection. I read some HOWTO articles and tried
>the manual script in them. And also I tried the default scripts coming with
>RH5.2(of course replace the phone number, username and passwd). But both
>failed. I can hear the modem dialing and successfully connected but soon it
>stoped. Following are the scripts in those two methods and the results in log
>file. Does anyone know what's wrong? Thanks a lot.
>#!/bin/sh
>/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 57600 user my_username connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v ''
>ATDT6412828 CONNECT ''ogin:my_username assword:my_passwd"
Uh, you want some spaces. '' ogin: mu_userame assword: my_passwd"
As the debuggin says, you script expects the long phrase ogin:my_username, and will
send
asseord:my_password if the former ever arrives.
>The result in log file:
>----------------------------------------
>Mar 3 23:19:05 localhost chat[635]: send (ogin:fengg^M)
>Mar 3 23:19:05 localhost chat[635]: expect (assword:foolish4)
I suggest that you immediately change your password-- a million people
now know this one!
It would help if you did not run together your lines. (Is this being sent from
a Win machine?
>pppd[477]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 <asyncmap 0x0> <auth chap 80> <magic
^^^^^^^^^^^
It wants you to use chap 80 ( a MS special)
>0x831> <pcomp> <accomp>] Mar 4 21:41:19 localhost pppd[477]: sent [LCP
>ConfRej id=0x0 <auth chap 80>] Mar 4 21:41:19 localhost pppd[477]: rcvd [LCP
^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^
You reject it. and thereafter they hang up on you after they have digested your
refusal
Your pppd may support chap 80 ( make sure you fill in teh chap-secrets file
Or it may not in which case you can recompile it
See README.CHAPMS in the source code for pppd
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From: "�_�" <zigzag(nospam)@global.co.za>
Subject: xwindows
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 02:48:57 +0200
Why wont my xwindows start when I logon as admin, but works when I logon as
other.
Damn!....this linux stuff is complicated.
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