Linux-Misc Digest #337, Volume #20 Tue, 25 May 99 01:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Sun SPARC Processor Perfomance & Linux (Philip Brown)
ipportfw or ipautofw with Netmeeting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom ("Chad Mulligan")
Re: Adding fonts to Wordperfect 8 ("Gero H. Marten")
Re: Iomega products and Linux (Dominic Mitchell)
Re: Linux on an IBM Thinkpad 560E (Gus Hartmann)
TNT2 &/or G400 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test (Philip Brown)
Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page (James Lee)
Recommendation for version of Linux/book on Linux ("M C")
Re: Sun SPARC Processor Perfomance & Linux (brian moore)
Re: Number Lock at start up ("Bezalel Geretz")
Re: How to run a script when logging out ? (Gerald Willmann)
Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test (brian moore)
Re: Middleware to connect PostgreSQL to Web forms ? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Linux: 750 million users by 2004? (Christopher Browne)
Favorite Linux Distribution ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: Sun SPARC Processor Perfomance & Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 May 1999 23:50:25 GMT
On Mon, 24 May 1999 16:51:53 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have various model Sun SPARC machines lying around and I can't keep
>them all. I'm trying to figure out which ones are worth putting RH on.
>RH doesn't have their SPARC hardware compatibility listing for 6.0
>available on their web site as of this date. From what I could
>determine they are listed below in order of relative processing power:
>
>Sparc20
>Sparc5
>Sparc10
you dont say what speeds they are.
>Classic/LX
>IPX/Sparc2
>IPC
scrap these.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ipportfw or ipautofw with Netmeeting
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:28:17 GMT
I have read a few web pages that say I can use ipautofw to enable
Netmeeting conferences successfully through my Linux firewall. I have
also read that ipportfw is a replacement for ipautofw. Can I use
ipportfw to enable Netmeeting as well? I have PC Anywhere working with
ipportfw but have had no luck with Netmeeting. Any help on this would
be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:52:28 -0700
Richard Kulisz wrote in message <7id5nq$8fg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Kenneth P. Turvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In the end, the reason we have the right to bear arms is to protect
>>ourselves from a tyrannical government. As long as this ability is
>>preserved, some level of enforced responsibility is not objectionable.
>>
>>Unfortunately the government has already banned those weapons that
>>are most capable of protecting the citizenry from a potential tyrant.
>
>Yeah, tactical nuclear warheads and rocket-propelled grenades. Or were
>you thinking of something different? What do you plan to do when the
>tyrannical government you want to protect yourself from sends tanks to
>roll over you? What will you do against an Apache helicopter? What will
>you do against an elite commando unit?
>
>Any *sane* person knows they don't have a snowball's chance in hell.
>
I guess Ho Chi Mihn wasn't sane, either were the Afgan Rebels that tackled
the Sovs.
>
>>Assault weapons were responsible for less than one tenth of one percent
>>of all the gun related homicides in this country when they were banned.
>
>You must be mistaken, they aren't banned!
>
>>Trying to be sensible about gun control has lead to foolish laws and
>
>The problem is that nobody has tried to be sensible. Being sensible would
>mean that you ban all firearms of any kind except those owned by the cops
>and the military, and make the manufacture, import and export of firearms
>illegal. Experiments run in LA(?) show an immediate drop in homicide when
>gun laws are enforced.
>
>>that are poorly enforced. It is unfortunate that the supreme court has
>>allowed the erosion of the second amendment (and the fourth).
>
>>I do think an armed citizenship is not only positive but a requirement
>
>Then you don't think too well. An armed citizenry *cannot* withstand
>an organized army and anyone with more than a single functioning brain
>cell will tell you that. So instead of an armed citizenry, you must
>have a *dis*armed government.
>
The KLA don't agree with you. They are claiming victories against a very
well equiped Yugoslav Army.
>
>>for sustaining a free society. I find it unfortunate that our children
>>will not have the guarantees that we did; that their children may not
>>have the rights that we do.
>
>The right to die in a violent homicide?
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From: "Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adding fonts to Wordperfect 8
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:38:37 +0200
Mark Tranchant wrote:
> I don't think you get xwpfi with the downloadable version. You can get
> it as part of the downloadable WP7.0 with a bit of digging on the ftp
> servers.
You are right. I forgot I took xwpfi from a 7.0 tgz file. Sorry for
the misleading posting.
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<http://www.provi.de/gmarten/index.html>
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Subject: Re: Iomega products and Linux
Reply-To: Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 May 1999 23:48:39 -0400
The address for Iomega is Iomega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
The deceived customer.
Dominic.
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From: Gus Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on an IBM Thinkpad 560E
Date: 25 May 1999 03:41:56 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc John Ioannidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to set up Red Hat 6.0, upgraded to the 2.2.9 kernel, on my
> old Thinkpad 560E. I don't seem to be able to get the sound to work,
> either using the out-of-the box kernel, or using the recompiled 2.2.9
> kernel with all the relevant sound modules enabled.
(Follow-up posted *only* to comp.os.linux.misc)
I managed to get sound working on a ThinkPad 560E under Linux,
but only by first loading OpenDos, running the appropriate drivers to
make it look and act like a Sound Blaster, and the using loadlin to boot
Linux. This also left a convenient partition from which to run the IBM
utils needed to manipulate certain ThinkPad attributes. This was under
2.0.3x, so may no longer be relevant, but it worked for me.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: TNT2 &/or G400
Date: 24 May 1999 23:38:48 GMT
Has anyone successfully ran X with a Matrox g400 or an nVidia TNT2? I'm wondering if
the
existing XFree86 support for g200's and RivaTNT cards would suffice enough to at least
run X.
-Brent
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philosophy, be still a man."
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An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 May 1999 23:42:15 GMT
On 20 May 1999 12:17:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>:[quoting Linus], and the editor I use (microemacs - not
>:included in any of the distributions, but obviously the best editor out
>:there (tm)).
>
>Go figure...
I would like to figure out WHY microemacs isn't included in any of the
distributions?!! It's great!
(jove is better, but uemacs would be good :-)
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From: James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: 24 May 1999 19:19:01 -0500
Aqeel Mahesri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: However, I do use emacs a lot, and have a favorable impression of it. Also, on a
: P2-400, emacs is NOT slow.
but linux runs on 386. Is it slow?
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From: "M C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Recommendation for version of Linux/book on Linux
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:33:22 -0700
Hi all,
Total newbie here, sorry. I'm getting ready to get a new system. I'll
be playing games, so I wanted to install Windows 98, but also wanted to do
some streaming audio and experiment with some other OS's, so I thought I'd
do a triple boot with NT (server?) and Linux. I was just curious to know
what version of Linux I should acquire and install. The most common one
seems to be RedHat, but I'm not sure if that would be the best for what I'm
going to be doing.
If this has been answered in like a million FAQ's please flame me and I'll
go quietly.
Thanks,
-Matthew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Sun SPARC Processor Perfomance & Linux
Date: 25 May 1999 03:47:24 GMT
On 24 May 1999 23:50:25 GMT,
Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 1999 16:51:53 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >I have various model Sun SPARC machines lying around and I can't keep
> >them all. I'm trying to figure out which ones are worth putting RH on.
> >RH doesn't have their SPARC hardware compatibility listing for 6.0
> >available on their web site as of this date. From what I could
> >determine they are listed below in order of relative processing power:
> >
> >Sparc20
> >Sparc5
> >Sparc10
>
> you dont say what speeds they are.
>
>
> >Classic/LX
> >IPX/Sparc2
> >IPC
>
> scrap these.
Heck, send 'em to me if you don't want 'em. SS2's are cute and cuddly
little boxes. (Okay, so they're worth $50 or so, they're still nice
boxes since they stack and are great for low-volume web or a MUD.)
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Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
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From: "Bezalel Geretz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Number Lock at start up
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:30:40 -0400
Its usually a BIOS setting not an OS setting
Mike Rego wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>How can I get the number lock to be on at the start up of my Linux
>RedHat 5.2?
>
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to run a script when logging out ?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:32:48 -0700
On 24 May 1999, John Robson wrote:
> How do I tell Linux to execute my shutdown script automatically whenever I
> log out ?
if you use bash as your shell put it in your .bash_logout
Gerald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test
Date: 25 May 1999 03:33:04 GMT
On 24 May 1999 23:42:15 GMT,
Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would like to figure out WHY microemacs isn't included in any of the
> distributions?!! It's great!
> (jove is better, but uemacs would be good :-)
Because the microEmacs license forbids it to the point that it is a
license violation even to put it on a $2 CD from CheapBytes. (It's one
of those evil 'anti-commercial' licenses.)
I've vainly tried to discuss the matter with Dan Lawrence, microEmacs'
maintainer, and he's adamant about how the 'evil' GPL is somehow
depriving programmers of money. He's seemingly oblivious to the fact
that with his license scheme, it's really not viable to distribute
his software at all.
Feel free to mail him at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and tell him how much you like
his work, how much you respect his ability to code some pretty slick
stuff (even though I still hate the Emacs key bindings :)), etc., and
how you'd like others to be able to enjoy his code as much as you do.
It's a shame that what was an amazingly popular editor ten years ago is
doomed to oblivion with that license.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Middleware to connect PostgreSQL to Web forms ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 04:09:26 GMT
On 24 May 1999 19:29:39 GMT, Cameron Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In the Microsoft world, folks who want to put a baseball card
>collection or a shopping cart on the Web are told not to write
>code, but to use a template connector to generate the Web forms
>and "middleware" integrity logic that goes between the
>CGI or ODBC driver and the SQL server.
>
>In the Linux world, it's a little harder to find things.
>Everywhere I've looked for a middleware package, I find a
>tutorial on how to roll the logic from scratch in C or Perl.
>Am I looking in the wrong places?
>Is there a package someplace that will read a high level template
>and write the form processor that talks to the database engine?
>I'll write the perl if I have to but it seems to me this problem
>has probably been solved by a professional programmer.
>
>Specific pointers would be appreciated. Saying "just get connector"
>really doesn't help someone who does not already know what "connector"
>is, who wrote it, etc. Many Linux applications have names
>that are common dictionary words, and they cannot be found
>by name alone using search engines.
There are some commercial middleware packages available for Linux;
there is less in the way of credible "libre" software for the
purpose.
A lot of the newer middleware uses CORBA; the upcoming Messaging
Service (which will probably first be implemented on TAO) offers some
quality-of-service capabilities that would *certainly* be useful in
this light.
See the URLs below:
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/tpmonitor.html>
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/rdbmsmiddleware.html>
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/corba.html>
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/framewrk.html>
Note that BEA Systems just released Tuxedo, which is one of the more
recognizable names, for Linux.
<http://www.beasys.com/linux/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Linux: 750 million users by 2004?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 04:09:05 GMT
On Mon, 24 May 1999 16:16:10 GMT, Gilles Pelletier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow) �crivait/wrote:
>>Golly, I'd be surprised if there were that many anyway -- FreeBSD would
>>probably be up to (6 tripling cycles) the 100+ million mark if so... ;)
>
>What? Let me write an arithmetic formula to determine this...
>Do you mean FreeBSD only has 137,174 users worldwide? That's what I
>call a very select club!
And everyone does realize, I trust, that when we know neither rate of
change nor the precise populations to any great degree of accuracy that
extrapolations of populations sizes will be of less than dubious
integrity?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Favorite Linux Distribution
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:28:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is a bit long, my aplogies in advance.
I am a longtime user of Windows NT and am pretty much sick and tired
of Micky$oft/Winblows and their related apps. Unfortunately, I am
constrained as that is what our research group has spec'd as its
computer standard at work. However, I can do whatever I want at home
and do much of my work at home (oh, the ease of the academic life).
What I want to do is install Linux on some free space on my current HD
or on a new, separate HD. I have a been shadowing the various Linux
NGs for a month or two and have a good grasp on how to install w/ NT
(want to do it this way until I am comfortable...plus my girlfriend
would never switch so I need the dual-boot option) and what to expect
during the general install procedure.
What I want to know is this: what are the consensus favorite
distributions and why? I have read up on just about every
distribution I can find and cannot deceide between RH6.0, Caldera 2.2,
and S.u.S.E. I really want the details as to why you like one
distribution vs. the others or why you particularly loathe one vs. the
others.
Please EMAIL ME your responses as I DO NOT WANT TO START A
FLAME-A-THON!!!
Follow the email addy in my sig or this one (same thing) as I hate
spam-bots:
pearce AT post DOT com
Thanks a ton in advance for all of your time and feedback. I will
happily return the favor next time!
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