Linux-Misc Digest #345, Volume #19 Sun, 7 Mar 99 08:13:33 EST
Contents:
Re: PCMCIA configuration HELP!! (Andreas Hinz)
Funny errors with fsck (Armin Kaiser)
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (thk)
Proxy settings on netscape ("Cooper Lai")
Re: best offline newsreader? (Paul-S)
Re: Need CDE for Red Hat Linux 5.2 (Jeremy Nickolet)
Re: Can't record sound with microphone ("Jeffrey S. Kline")
setting up multicast routing... ("Jarrett")
WP8 (Len Cuff)
Re: More bad news for NT (Chris Costello)
GNOME ("Lee Howes")
linux 2.2.2, lpdPLP and lp0 (Matthias Juchem)
Re: mem=128M hangs system (Justin The Cynical)
Re: best offline newsreader? (John Thompson)
Re: Newsreaders and Star Office (John Thompson)
Re: smbmount: Can't get it to work... (Steffen Kluge)
CD Images ("Lee Howes")
Windows98 Networking ("Phil Williams")
new mb+cpu will it hose my linux? (Jason Ogren)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Robert Krawitz)
Re: Upgrading KDE1.1-0.1 to KDE1.1-3 (garfield)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Subject: Re: PCMCIA configuration HELP!!
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 11:19:43 GMT
On Sat, 06 Mar 1999 21:24:26 -0500, Raul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>install the pcmcia_core module, but when I try to install the i82365 the
>system locks up some times (and some others it doesn't!). By the way, my
>PCMCIA controller is an O2 Micro OZ 6832 supported by the i82365 module.
>
Which version of pcmcia comes with your dist.?
I use version 3.0.8 with the O2 Micro OZ 6836 without any problems.
--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Andreas Hinz
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From: Armin Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Funny errors with fsck
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 09:34:23 GMT
Hi all,
I have a problem with the parallizing filesystem check (fsck) on
all harddisks. These errors look like this:
WARNING: Possible bug found in ext2fs! Or some bonehead (you!) is
checking a mounted filesystem! (Of course I do NOT!)
inode xxxx is 2 should be 2 fixed y
.
.
When I try to check my filesystems manually with e2fsck all seems
to be normal. So what's the problem?
My system config:
Kernel 2.0.36 (SuSe Kernel), SuSe 5.2 Distribution
AMD K6/300 on a FIC VA503+ Mainboard with 64MB 100 Mhz SDRAM, MVP3 Chipset
Harddisks: Samsung 1.6 GB, Seagate 2.5 GB, IBM 10 GB
...
TIA
Dark (Armin Kaiser)
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From: thk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.rpm,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 05:19:21 -0600
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!
Andy Johnson wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:00:38, Werner Kliewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > The UNIX and therefore Linux version of this, as invented by Xerox (hence
> > > the name) and since enhanced over about 20-30 years is called X-Windows.
>
> Actually, it's called X because the windowing system that came before it was
> called W. What comes after W? X.
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From: "Cooper Lai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Proxy settings on netscape
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 19:28:45 +0800
When I try to set netscape's proxy settings a error message appears and said
FTP proxy host proxy.pacific.net.sg is unknown.
Please help to resolve this and I have just installed redhat 5.2 with
default settings.
PS: I am a newbie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul-S)
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 11:31:19 GMT
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:58:54 -0800, "Richard Latimer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>For those Linux/Unix users offering advice on news readers,
>you would be better able to understand what newbies are
>looking for in a newsreader if you sat down at a Win setup
>and played with the free newsreader that comes with Win98,
>i.e., Outlook Express.
>
Richard, I hear what you are saying, You are indeed a brave man to
speak your mind in here :-)
Having only had Linux for just 1 week, and only actually got it
connected to the net by myself last night, I know what you're feeling.
I've been using Win95/98 and NT4 for some years now, and I guess I've
been spoilt rather.
My Choice of net apps are:
Internet Explorer 4
Eudora Pro
Forte Agent
FTP Explorer
Pirch
Now then, as for my Linux setup.
We have Netscape, which looks really good, and a worthy replacement
for IE4
The IRC, and Email side of things I guess if fairly easy to handle for
many Linux Apps.
I've not tried any FTP progs yet, but will be surprised if any can
quite match up to the ease of use of "FTP Explorer"
ie: Drag an file icon from your desktop over the FTP prog, and it
uploads it into the current dir on the server machine.
But, I'm hearing again and again (On the net), the disappointment with
News reader programs.
I've tried the one that comes with KDE "Krn" and it's OK I guess, but
rather odd, and clunky.
Myself and Everyone I know uses Forte Agent, It seems to be the
ultimate news reader that everyone else fails to match.
Agent for Linux would really be wonderful.
Paul.
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From: Jeremy Nickolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need CDE for Red Hat Linux 5.2
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 08:37:58 GMT
SPACE wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> Did you have CDE for Red Hat Linux 5.2? Would you please inform me
> where can I download it or is there any hacker site has such program?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> WL
CDE is a commercial program, and offers you nothing that you can't get
from any of the freely available window managers that are available for
Linux. It's also ugly.
Jeremy
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From: "Jeffrey S. Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.sound
Subject: Re: Can't record sound with microphone
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 05:44:46 -0600
You said it right in there!!!
You don't have the microphone "Selected" as far as where it's getting its
audio from. You need to set it so that it's recorded audio comes from the
mic or aux, or what ever input you intend on recording from.
Jeff
David Guertin wrote in message ...
>Hi folks,
>
>I'm trying to set up my system to record sound, and having a difficult
>time getting things working. Here's my setup: Audio Technica ATM-31
>microphone through an XLR -> 1/4" adapter to a Tascam Portastudio 424
>4 track recorder/mixer to a Sound Blaster 16 sound card. (I had no
>success at all when I tried bypassing the Tascam, even with a preamp.)
>
>I'm running a 2.0.36 kernel with modular sound support (I have the sb,
>sound, soundcore, and uart401 modules all working). I can play CD's
>and sound files (au, wav, aifc, MIDI, etc.) with no problems at all.
>
>When I speak into the microphone, sound comes out the speakers fine.
>
>But, when I try to record sound as described in the Sound-HOWTO:
>
>dd bs=8k count=4 </dev/audio >sample.au
>cat sample.au >/dev/audio
>
>I get nothing. Actually, if I have the gain turned way up, and crank
>the volume on playback, and I shout into the microphone, I can hear my
>voice very faintly, buried under waves of static.
>
>I have the microphone level set to 70-100% in xmixer, and at about 70%
>on the Tascam.
>
>Also, *cough*, uh, the setup records fine under Windows on the same
machine.
>
>So, does anyone have any ideas as to why recording isn't working with
>this setup?
>
>Cheers,
>--
>Dave Guertin
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Jarrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: setting up multicast routing...
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 09:56:42 -0700
Hello, I'm a new user of linux and have been building a linux router in my
testing lab. I have basic routing working fine between two subnets. I've
recompiled the kernel using v2.2.2 according to the FAQs on multicast
routing. The FAQ seems to indicate that simple multicast routing will work
as long as the kernel is compiled correctly and the routing table on the
linux machine has a route for 224.0.0.0 with a subnet of 240.0.0.0 using
interface eth1. If this is correct, I must be missing something, because
multicast packets aren't getting through to the other subnet (eth1). I have
a tunl0 (IP tunneling) interface because I compiled that in the kernel, but
the FAQ indicated that this was only needed if using mrouted. Is that the
case? If I do need to set up tunl0, how is it to be configured?
The FAQ seems to indicate that mrouted is only used if you want to control
what multicasting gets routed and which does not. If I have to set this up
as well, I'm not real good at working with the source code and could use
some help in getting it compiled to run on RedHat 5.2n with kernel v2.2.2.
As stated above, I also am not familiar with how to set up the tunneling
interface that mrouted supposedly needs.
Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated.
Brian
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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WP8
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:43:36 +0000
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I seem to have a problem with WP8. I downloaded it from the Corel site,
unpacked and untared the file. When I run the install, instead of decent
graphics all I get is a load of black fuzzy lines ! Also when it's
installed, the buttons appear the same -- fuzzy black lines.
Have I missed something -- some fonts maybe ?
I am running SuSE 6 and Star Office works fine.
Cheers,
Len
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 16:59:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jason Clifford wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, it was written:
>
>> > 95/98 are clones of the Mac and all the other GUI's that came way
>> >before Win 3.1/95/98. The Mac, GEM, GeoWorks on the Commodore 64/128 first,
>> >then the IBM clones.
>> >
>> YUP.... Just like a Jaguar is the clone of a horse and buggy.
>
>There is nothing in the Windows 95 interface that was not present in the
>Apple Mac interface in 1991 and earlier. The GUI itself was invented and
>widely used on non-PC systems many years before MS released any version of
>Windows.
Not that it matters, because Windows didn't steal its UI from
Mac anyway. (At least not the pre-4.0 versions of Windows.)
They stole it from a Xerox interface.
>Jason Clifford
>Definite Linux Systems
>http://definite.ukpost.com/
-Chris
--
Powered by FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT. "The Power to Serve!"
"OK, now let's look at four dimensions on the blackboard."
-- Dr. Joy
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From: "Lee Howes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNOME
Date: 7 Mar 1999 11:52:12 GMT
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with replies, do not reply to message.
I cannot install GNOME 1.0 because when I try to install as in the
instructions it cannot install the xscreensaver-3... RPM with the message:
Cannot install. This is not because a previous vdrsion is installed because
I tried uninstalling that (xscreensaver-2...) as well, which still didn't
work, and that reinstalled fine.
Lee Howes,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Matthias Juchem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: linux 2.2.2, lpdPLP and lp0
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 12:51:41 +0100
Hi folks,
I've installed the new kernel 2.2.2 recently. Everything seemed to work but
today I noticed that my printer won't print.
lpdPLP is running fine, using lp0, but when receiving a print job it says:
lp: Print_open: cannot open /dev/lp0: Operation not supported by device
Modules parport, parport_pc and lp are loaded.
I don't have any clue what to do, so please help me.
TIA
Matt
p.s. If this isn't the right newsgroups to post this problem to, tell me.
-- -mj
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin The Cynical)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: mem=128M hangs system
Date: 7 Mar 1999 12:00:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hate following up on folowups when I want to respond to the original
posted, but since the original hasn't made it here yet.... :-)
->Chris Menzel wrote:
->
->> We have just upgraded a server to a PC-100 Super7 100MHz board with a
->> K6-2/350 and 128MB of RAM. There is one SCSI drive with an Adaptec
->> AHA-2940 controller. We are running Redhat 5.2. After booting, we
What kernel version is RH 5.2 using? If it's not 2.0.36, I would
suggest upgrading to that one. it does away with the need for the mem line.
->> noticed that the system was only seeing 64MB of RAM. Accordingly, we
->> added append="mem=128M" to lilo.conf, ran lilo, and rebooted. However,
->> the system would then hang in the boot process at the point where it is
[snip]
Question: Does the motherboard have a built in video card? One of
the servers I deal with had an AGP-style board (the amount of video RAM was
selectable in the BIOS), and we had given it 4 megs. Well, with pre .36
kernels, I specified alll 128 Megs of RAM the system had. And it would hang.
Untill someone mentioned that the BIOS was taking away that 4 megs and I
changed the mem line to reflect that, it would keep hanging. Upgrading to
the .36 kernel eliminated the problem and allowed me to get rid of the mem
line.
Just a thought. It helped me out.
--
"NT disk, meet Mr. Microwave."
David Parsons in comp.os.linux.advocacy (e-mail addy deleted for spam reasons)
Justin The Cynical - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 21:39:42 -0600
Richard Latimer wrote:
> Richard Steiner wrote in message ...
>
> >Most of the Windows users I know who use Usenet's technical
> >newsgroups tend to use text when posting. Is that not the same
> >for you?
> When I was reading messages in a Microsoft newsgroup about
> Office 2000 beta, about 1/4 to 1/3 of the messages were html
> with stationary and pics in the signatures.
OK.
And how exactly does "html with stationary and pics in the
signatures" contribute to the technical issues being
discussed? Couldn't the same technical information be
communicated *using less bandwidth* in plain text messages?
> One day I was moving thru a thread about broken sound support
> in MS Outlook when a voice came out of my computer, "What's
> the problem!" I like it.
Golly! Gee whiz!
But doesn't that mean you don't have the problem, so what's
the point?
> Users may be doing more than reading technical newsgroups.
> They may be downloading and listening to their friend's new
> piece of music, or they may be telecommuting and working on
> a corporate compound document in Outlook. You can manage
> all of these feats inside Outlook or with Outlook Express.
Indeed. There's a time and a place for all that. But
usenet is text. It is still text. Anything that isn't text
must be encoded as text for transport, at the cost of
increased bandwidth. Such things are arguably better left to
the WWW, which at least supports binary transport without
encoding.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newsreaders and Star Office
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 21:49:36 -0600
David Brown wrote:
>
> > I've found the Star Office news reader to be very touchy.
>
> This is becoming my experience with the whole suite - It's also the only
> Linux program I've found slower than my windoze equivelent. I'll try WP.
>
> > There's slrn. And you could always run a news server like
> > leafnode or inn and connect any newsreader you want to it
> > through the loopback interface.
> Can you give me any pointers on how to get started with either slrn or
> leafnode. I think I'm missing something basic - nothing happens when I try
> ro run them (from KDE) - perhaps I have to edit some config files ? (I do
> have other news and mail readers working fine.)
Leafnode's not a news reader; it's a news server. You can
feed it from your ISP and then use any nntp client to read
the news through the loopback interface or over a network.
> > Virtual Access ....Sorry, never heard of it... What's it do?
> Off-line mail and news reader. Keeps both news AND mail messages correctly
> threaded and handles the lot in one pass. At the moment this is the killer
> app keeping me with windows !
OK. I have both mail and news offline here but I'm
presently using an OS/2 machine to pull down the news and
mail and read it offline either on the OS/2 machine itself
or through the lan on the linux machine. I had originally
intended to convert both machines to linux but I found the
OS/2 news exchange software I was already using was faster
than what I tried in linux so I took the lazy way out and
left the news and mail servers running in OS/2 for the time
being...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Subject: Re: smbmount: Can't get it to work...
Date: 7 Mar 1999 22:51:26 +1100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jason Kircher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>jfkmmx:/home/jkircher# smbmount //tina/c /net -I 206.113.4.4
>Password:
>mount error: Invalid argument
>Please look at smbmount's manual page for possible reasons
>
>I've been through the smbmount manpage many times, and I'm still very
>confused. I tried various premutations of //tina/c, \\\\tina\\c, etc,
This is not the problem, //tina/c is just fine. Try to specify
`-C <username>'. I have to give `-c <client-hostname>' too, if
my hostname turns out to be unacceptable to the Windows box.
Btw, the (seemingly stupid) message you get is worth taking
seriously. Look up the smbmount man page for "MOUNT FAILURES".
Unfortunately, the designers of the mount(2) system call didn't
anticipate how pesky a server may be about naming conventions
and other idiosyncrasies, that's why mount(2) doesn't provide
for meaningful error codes in this case.
Hope this helps
Steffen.
--
Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
--
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From: "Lee Howes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD Images
Date: 7 Mar 1999 12:15:30 GMT
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I noticed that Redhat 5.2 can, out of the box create images of CDs on the
hard drive (such a VCD for windows). Does anyone know how to do this?
Lee Howes
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From: "Phil Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Windows98 Networking
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 20:24:12 +0800
I'm involved in a LAN at work, all independently running Windows98 (no
server, all stand-alones).
How can I run my system using redhat linux 5.2 on the network to share
printers etc.
I have the same network card has the others in the network
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From: Jason Ogren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: new mb+cpu will it hose my linux?
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 12:43:05 -0600
I run RH 4.2 kernel 2.0.36, upgraded to glibc and I have a p150 (nonmmx)
and TritonII MB.. I will be upgrading to a k6-400 /100mhz bus/AGP MB.
Will I even be able to log on to my linux installation to allow me to
recompile the kernel or will I have to start fresh?
Jason
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: 06 Mar 1999 13:54:21 -0500
"David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think you hit on one problem at the very least and that is if you want to
> get away from I386 you have only one other mass produced platform and that
> is Apples Mac. When dealling with software I do not think binary
> compatablity is s big deal for Linux users. After all if you want to run
> something you can just recompile it.
For better or for worse, the latter statement is not true, and it's
becoming less and less true. If your goal is to run Oracle, Informix,
DB/2, Sybase, or what have you, binary compatibility is essential.
(If people want to argue that that should not be the case -- that
everything should be GPL'ed and Linux should provide no help to either
authors or users of proprietary software -- that issue can be argued
on its own merits. However, that is not the current state of affairs,
and even as far as existing Linux distributions go, support for
platforms other than the x86 is spotty. For example, to the best of
my knowledge I cannot get SuSE for the Alpha.)
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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From: garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrading KDE1.1-0.1 to KDE1.1-3
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 13:51:28 -0500
rhino wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm a KDE 1.1-0.1 user and Linux newbie trying to install the latest KDE
> (1.1-3) RPMS on top of my existing system. I downloaded all the 5 RPMS
> kde-installer
> kdesupport
> kdelibs
> kdebase
> kdeapplications
>
> And tried to start it off by doing rpm -Uvh kde-installer-1.1-3rh5x.i386.rpm
> but it keeps giving me a series of errors:
>
> /usr/doc/KDE-1.1/installation-guide/installation-guide-1.html conflicts with file
>from kdesupport-1.1-0.1alpha1rh5x
> /usr/doc/KDE-1.1/installation-guide/installation-guide-2.html conflicts with file
>from kdesupport-1.1-0.1alpha1rh5x
> /usr/doc/KDE-1.1/installation-guide/installation-guide-3.html conflicts with file
>from kdesupport-1.1-0.1alpha1rh5x
> /usr/doc/KDE-1.1/installation-guide/installation-guide-4.html conflicts with file
>from kdesupport-1.1-0.1alpha1rh5x
> /usr/doc/KDE-1.1/installation-guide/installation-guide-5.html conflicts with file
>from kdesupport-1.1-0.1alpha1rh5x
>
> and so on....
>
> I tried removing the entire /usr/doc/KDE-1.1 directory but this error still
> occurs. I installed my original KDE 1.1-0.1 from a lot of RPMs on the Red Hat
> 5.2 CD-ROM. Do I have to completely uninstall these before I start the new KDE
> upgrade? How do I do that? Please advise.. thanks very much!
>
> rhino
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Try rpm -i --force kde-installer-1.1-3rh5x.i386.rpm
That usually works for me.
Gregg
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