Linux-Misc Digest #345, Volume #27               Mon, 12 Mar 01 18:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Hylafax (Faheem Mitha)
  Re: Need identd for IRC behind firewall? (Lloyd Sumpter)
  jpeg -> ps (Neil Zanella)
  Re: jpeg -> ps ("Matt O'Toole")
  Re: Tk based alarm clock (* Tong *)
  Re: Small distro install from floppy? (Stan McCann)
  CD incremental Backup strategy (* Tong *)
  Re: jpeg -> ps (Bob Tennent)
  mhstore/OE attachment conflict (Ray DeGennaro)
  Re: how to print with GIMP? (Rick)
  Re: clock one hour ahead (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Change memory limits for large executable? (Thomas Ruedas)
  Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: *.i386.rpm q? (Mark Stephen)
  Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Rick)
  Re: Anyone ever ran Linux on Sun Sparc? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Faheem Mitha)
Subject: Re: Hylafax
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:18:42 -0000

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:07:17 -0500, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>    I am looking for tutorial / explicit instructions to perform
>simple fax functions, like receiving faxes and sending faxes
>and viewing faxes.
>  I have read the HylaFAX Howto and it doesn't really tell how
>to use it. It basically tells how to set it up. Also the other doc
>on their site is also about setting it up basically and not
>using it for simple purposes.
>  It seems complicated to set it up with all the options

Have you considered using a simpler program, like Efax 
( http://casas.ee.ubc.ca/efax ) by Ed Casas ? This is a nice little ANSi
C program which probably does all you want, if you have a simple
stand-alone setup and your needs are not demanding. I gave up on
Hylafax when it refused to recognise either of two different modems
(one of them, the current one, is the external and very standard
SupraExpress 56k modem). Efax worked with both and without any fuss
(you run it from the command line).

Also, Hylafax is horribly complicated to configure, and doesn't really
seem worth it unless you have heavy-duty faxing needs.

                   Sincerely, Faheem Mitha.

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From: Lloyd Sumpter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Need identd for IRC behind firewall?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:42:28 GMT

Thanks: I'll try it!

   I found a program called masqidentd that was supposed to solve the problem,
but it doesn't seem to work (Can't remember the error msg it generates, but it
doesn't run, either from the command-line or from inetd).

   It seems reasonable that an auth request would NOT normally get forwarded,
since it's not originated by a machine behind the firewall (ie it's a request,
not a reply). For example, if you had httpd running on a machine behind the
firewall, an http request would not be forwarded to it (right?).
   Not that I know anything about identd, though...

Lloyd 

A Younis wrote:
> 
> i just got a completely different program called bsidentd. i run it on the linux 
>gateway, and i dont think it even passes the ident request to the windows boxes...it 
>just returns an arbitrary string for each request.
> 
> just go to freshmeat and search for bsidentd (at least thats what i did a few months 
>back). it works really well.
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> D. Stimits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi.
> >>    I'm trying to use IRC on my Mandrake 7 box (7.2 I believe). When I try to
> >> connect to a server, it says I have to run identd. I'm running identd on my
> >> machine.
> >>    I'm behind a firewall, which is another Linux box (Mandrake again) using
> >> ipchains. It is also running identd. The user I'm using on my machine is not on
> >> the firewall.
> >>    Is there some setup required for identd? Is there a special command I need
> >> for ipchains to allow the IRC server to access my identd? When the IRC server
> >> asks for an Ident, does it stop at the firewall,so do I have to have my username
> >> on the firewall (I REALLY don't want to!)
> >>
> >> Lloyd Sumpter
> >
> >I have noticed some popular IRC servers that are broken. I run identd as
> >well, and can even set ipchains to log every auth request. I can connect
> >to non-broken IRC servers that also require identd. But many of the
> >popular efnet servers access identd and fail to see a valid identd (such
> >as irc.prison.net, which isn't a prison). There is nothing you can do on
> >those particular servers since the admins don't seem to care.
> >
> >In terms of identd, just make sure port 113 is open.

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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: jpeg -> ps
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:56:56 -0330


Hello,

I am using a digital camera instead of a scanner or photocopier to archive
some black and white articles as I find it fairly convenient. I would like
to know whether there is a tool under Linux for converting jpeg to ps so
that I nay print the pages on a postscript printer and obtain fairly
decent results.

Thanks,

Neil


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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: jpeg -> ps
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:11:31 -0800


"Neil Zanella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> I am using a digital camera instead of a scanner or photocopier to archive
> some black and white articles as I find it fairly convenient. I would like
> to know whether there is a tool under Linux for converting jpeg to ps so
> that I nay print the pages on a postscript printer and obtain fairly
> decent results.

Paste the jpegs into a PS document, and print that.

Matt O.




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From: * Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl,comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Tk based alarm clock
Date: 12 Mar 2001 17:17:25 -0400

"Donal K. Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Victor Wagner wrote:
> > By the way, it would require perl or Tcl interpreter to stay in memory
> > during all your login session, and this seems to much for just an alarm
> > clock.
> 
> It depends on whether you already have an interpreter already present.
> The overhead for a separate interpreter within an already-running
> process is pretty small...

Thanks, Donal. You've answered a question that I wanted to ask. :-)
Can you just explain a little bit on the term "already-running
process" please? 

Does it means within same shell, or same user or same X system...?

thanks

-- 
Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
  http://members.xoom.com/suntong001/
  - All free contribution & collection & music from the heavens

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From: Stan McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small distro install from floppy?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:46:40 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Michael Lee Yohe wrote:
> There is a distribution of Linux called "PeeWee" Linux that is targetted
> for ultra-small platforms while maximizing usability.  The neat thing is
> that's modern and based off tested Red Hat distributions - not just a built
> from scratch distribution.  They're target platform is around 64MB (for a
> flash card).  So, it should do nicely for you.
> 
Thanks.  I'll take a look at it.

Stan McCann

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From: * Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: CD incremental Backup strategy
Date: 12 Mar 2001 17:47:04 -0400

Hi,

I know that Unix is very good at incremental tape backup. How about
backing up to CD? What tools/strategies do you suggest? Please
consider both the easy of use when backing up and restoring. 
any comments? 

Thanks for your input!

-- 
Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
  http://members.xoom.com/suntong001/
  - All free contribution & collection & music from the heavens

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: jpeg -> ps
Date: 12 Mar 2001 21:46:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:56:56 -0330, Neil Zanella wrote:
 >
 >I find it fairly convenient. I would like
 >to know whether there is a tool under Linux for converting jpeg to ps so
 >that I nay print the pages on a postscript printer and obtain fairly
 >decent results.

xv or any graphics viewer that prints will likely export in PS format.

Bob T.

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From: Ray DeGennaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: mhstore/OE attachment conflict
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:55:05 -0600

I was receiving email with text and attachments fine, but MS Outlook 
Express (OE) users were complaining that OE was treating the body as an 
attachment.  So I switched the sender to MIME::Lite.  

OE users are happy, but our linux users that use any of the mail apps 
that use mhstore get the following error:

mhstore: don't know how to decode part 1 of message 
/home/popaccts/gscvp/rayd/mailbox/Inbox/4

on the body text.  There's no troubles with the real attachments.

Please tell me this is a RTFM that I missed the first few times I read 
the docs for mhstore.


Ray

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: how to print with GIMP?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:03:23 -0500

Leonard Evens wrote:
> 
> Rick wrote:
> >
> > Leonard Evens wrote:
> > >
> > > Rick wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Are there somple directions to printing ith the GIMP? It seems to want
> > > > to print to a file, wthr I chose my printer or not.
> > > >
> > > > Any help appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rick
> > >
> > > I don't know which version of print you have, but with the version
> > > I have, there is a box at the top for printer.  If you have used
> > > printtool to setup a printer, you should be able to choose that
> > > printer by clicking on that box.  If printtool doesn't have an
> > > entry for your printer, just choose something that is close
> > > if you plan to use the printer for photos.  The actual setup for
> > > the gimp print utility is done by clicking on the setup button
> > > next to the printer button.  That has a quite wide variety of
> > > printers of the type one might use for printing photos.
> > >
> > > The instructions that come with the print installer tell how to
> > > set up the printer for general printing if you want to do that
> > > also.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
> > > Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
> >
> > I have uninstalld GIMP. Installed and reinstalled tons of versions. The
> > I reinstalled 1.1.6 and the data files. lpr cooms up, as does a etting
> > for the Epson 740. I hav no clue why it wasnt working before.
> >
> > --
> > Rick
> 
> Without being there, I can only guess.  But I suspect there is
> soimething wrong with you seetup.  Perhaps you don't have the
> right printing command.
> --
> 

I have no idea why it wasnt working -before-. I didnt change ny printing
software. I removed and reinstalled sane, xsane and gimp (a bunch of
version). Teh I reinstalled the packages noted above, and it all works.
Personlly, I think there's gremlins in the LinuxPPC installer. I also
think the LinuxPPC guys no it and re laughing at us... at times.  ;-)
-- 
Rick

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: clock one hour ahead
Date: 12 Mar 2001 22:11:57 GMT

In <98iri3$2ou7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I just installed Linux, but my clock runs an hour ahead, I can change it,
>but it doesn't stay saved, Can somebody help me with this problem?


NL=Netherlands? If so, you have set you system to say that the clock is
on UTC, while you actually set it to local time. Reset your hardware
clock to UTC. (man hwclock)


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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:00:22 +0100
From: Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change memory limits for large executable?

>The full path is /usr/src/linux/.config.  It'll only be there if you
>have compiled a kernel, or your vendor put a default one there.
This seems to be the case.
>My point was that Linux on x86 can be compiled with either a 1 GB or a 2
>GB per-process address space.
...
>The GNU compiler does tend to produce larger executables than others,
Thanks again for these informations.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:21:06 -0000

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:37:39 -0500 Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| I know in some cases, though, the differences in the libraries cause
| the problem. When trying to run IBM DB2 UDB V6.1, it would work on the
| glibc-2.1.1 version, but would put several of the servers into an
| infinite loop with the glibc-2.1.3 version so Linux would not even
| boot up (because DB2 is started in /etc/rc.d/init.d). IBM claimed that
| this was due to a bug in Red Hat's version of glibc-2.1.3 and IBM put
| out a service pack that could be installed to overcome this. The
| service pack is a download of over 100 megabytes and it sure took a
| long time to download over my 56.6K dial-up connection. Even then,
| there were a lot of difficulties, since the service pack could not be
| installed until the older version of DB2 was installed, and it could
| not be installed because of the bug, so you had to do a lot of
| monkey-motion to partly install the old version of DB2 and then
| install the fix-pack.
|
| I imagine IBM would not have wished to do that with more than one
| distribution.

If they had done things right in the first place, and I know DB2 must be
runnable on many systems, so it's surely not a core programming issue,
maybe none of this would happen.  But then, why do they have a problem
and few other programs do?  glibc-2.1.3 has been flawless for me.


| I never tried Oracle, but I used to work for a large company that made
| computers, and large software systems (UNIX OS for various machines, C
| compilation system (compilers, libraries, run-time packages), ditto
| for C++, etc.) and it was really tough, even though we presumably had
| THE authoritative authors of those things working for us, just getting
| the stuff to work for the machines we built ourselves and the others
| we used in house, and for our own distributions. The problems with all
| the different versions of the UNIX OS (there were 12 of our own that
| we had to support at one time) were probably the biggest problem
| (other than our marketing ineptitude) in making the UNIX OS a viable
| commercial product. Several times we tried to reconcile all the
| different versions of the UNIX OS into just one or two, and we never
| really succeeded. We tried to do that again with the Berkeley, Sun,
| and our own versions another time, and that only partly worked. These
| kinds of things are really tough, much tougher than technical issues.

I guess maybe I'd have to be there to see.  But I don't generally run
into things like that.  I used to work for a while at a small company
that made a couple of UNIX based applications.  The code was quite
clean and it generally too less than a day to get it working on yet
another UNIX platform.  It took more time getting some of those rather
strange flavors of "UNIX" installed on their own hardware than to port
code to them.  One OS, however, turned out to be a major nightmare.
That was MS Windows.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:22:56 -0000

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:27:22 GMT Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

|>But why do companies centralize around particular distributions
|>when there are plenty of people willing to repackage for other
|>distributions?
|
| When you have limited resources and can't affort to support all
| the distributions on the planet, you've got to pick one.

Like Oracle?

|>Is it because they made some deal with the people at Redhat to
|>be able to call them up if they get stuck on some issue?  I can
|>see that at some small software house that can't afford to hire
|>a couple Linux experts. But Oracle?  I guess Larry made his
|>billions by being stingy.
|
| The Linux group at Oracle probably doesn't have all of Larry's
| billions allocated to them.  Even groups at huge companies have
| budget and resource constraints.

Contraints determined by someone who thinks Redhat == Linux and
adjusts the figures accordingly?

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From: Mark Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *.i386.rpm q?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:23:16 GMT

David wrote:

> An i386 rpm will run on any Intel ix86 system but an i686 rpm won't run
> on an i386, i486, i586 usually.

Can you expand on this? I have a K6-2, which Linux identifies as
an i586, but it runs i686 code just fine (so far). Where do the K
series, Cyrix, Athlons etc. fit in the x86 hierarchy?

best wishes, mark s.

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:46:39 -0500

Grant Edwards wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> In comp.os.linux.misc Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
> >>
> >> > I wonder if Linux will *ever* have a web browser that is a worthy opponent
> >> > to Explorer,...
> >>
> >> It does: Opera. Check it out.
> >
> >Does Opera do secure pages yet?
> 
> Works fine for me.
> 
>

I keep getting the message that the certificate signatures could not be
verified.

Rick

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anyone ever ran Linux on Sun Sparc?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:58:34 GMT

Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I tried debian last year on an old IPC. It installed ok from the web
> (well, after we tried at least 3-4 different floppies for each image)
> but we never got the keyboard nor mouse to work under X and also
> simple stuff like man would segfault. Quickly went back to Solaris
> 2.6.

Hmm...  Sounds like you might have had bad floppies...  On my Classic (and
my older IPC) it (both debian and RH) installed beautifully.  No questions
about running, even X started up without having to do anything... Ah, the 
joys of the sun fb devices...  

> One other thing to note. Someone else mentioned in this thread that linux
> software is also available for Sparc. That's only true as long as it's
> open source. If it's not - say you want to use realplayer or whatever - then
> you are out of luck although it seems possible to get the solaris binaries
> to work with extra libs and lots of effort.

True...  Some things you simply cannot get, but for the most part, this
has not been an issue.  I have noticed, tho, that NS for instance, is not
a linux native app - it is a SunOS/Solaris product.  I believe most
of the distros put in the libs for running SunOS/Solaris apps by default.

Kris


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