Linux-Misc Digest #839, Volume #19 Tue, 13 Apr 99 22:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: When is RedHat 5.3 coming?? (Christopher Browne)
Re: gzip & bzip2 (Muzh)
Re: Virtual CDs (jik-)
Re: linux in industry applications (Gary Momarison)
Re: Kernel installation question ("kryss")
crc error when booting RedHat 5.1 (2) ("David Mulcahy")
Re: gzip & bzip2 (jason)
Re: Detech Modem Speed (Anthony)
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? (Kenny McCormack)
Re: Win 98 Killed lilo - can't start Linux (David Vitithoe)
Re: Linux is dead (jik-)
Re: Linux is dead (**Nick Brown)
Re: Linux Database for commercial project (Michael Peppler)
Re: Forever spawning process (M. Buchenrieder)
Disabling touchpad tap feature? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Did someone got the SONY Spressa SCSI 4x8 burnning? (Julio De Gregorio)
Re: 2.2.5 ppp (jason)
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? (Jeff Holloway)
Re: Linux is dead (Iain A F Fleming)
Re: Linux is dead (Cameron Hutchison)
Re: .tar files ("J�rgen Exner")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: When is RedHat 5.3 coming??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:47:28 GMT
On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:49:12 -0500, Al Dev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I heard RedHat would be releasing RH 5.3 during 1st week of april.
>Linux with new kernel version 2.2 (SMP).
>
>It had been a long time since RedHat 5.2 is released. Anyone has idea
>when it will be released??
Red Hat hasn't been noted for releasing "*.3" versions at all. They
tend to do a "major version revision" by that time.
More particularly, they have been calling "Rawhide" version 5.9, which
is rather supportive of the next release being 6.0.
It is likely that they have frozen 6.0, or are about to, and will
shortly send it out to the printers so they can start stamping CDs,
boxes, and books. They have been known to do releases the week of Linux
Expo, which starts on about May 15th. It wouldn't be too remarkable to
see a release slightly before that, but *much* earlier would be a
surprise.
--
Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus.
(By [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/linux.html>
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From: Muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gzip & bzip2
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:47:58 +1200
bzip2 compresses about 30% more than gzip, resulting in smaller
archives. Apart from that, I don't know --
hellraiser wrote:
>
> what's the difference? i heard bzip2 supports bigger archives or
> something
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:04:24 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Virtual CDs
Lee Howes wrote:
>
> Please CC replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I have heard that the ability to create virtual CDs is built into RH5.2
> however I do not know how. Could someone please explain if I am correct
> and secondly (and this is mostr important) how to do it.
Virtual CDs? You mean the loopback device which allows a file to be
mounted like a device? This is a standard Linux deal, not RedHat. So
far I have only used it with mkisofs but I think you can create one with
dd as well. Read the CD-Writing-HOWTO.
You usually create an iso9660 filesystem (which is a file which will
later be burned onto the CD) and then you mount it and verify its
integrity, if its good you burn it.
you need mkisofs or dd (dd is part of Linux, mkisofs is an extra
utility) and loopback device compiled into the kernel.
mount -o loop file -t iso9660 /mnt
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux in industry applications
Date: 13 Apr 1999 09:38:06 -0700
Georg Raming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dear linux users,
>
> can you tell me which companies in what frame and kind of applications
> use linux in industry instead of Windows CE, or other kind of real time
> OS's.
>
> I'm going to write some articles on Hannover Fair '99 (for industry)
> about linux in industrial environment. To do so, I need some examples of
> companies, who use linux, and better who exhibit on Hannover Fair, too.
>
> Any hints welcome,
Not exactly, but you might find something useful in
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/embedded.html (you'll need to dig)
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/promotion.html (examples section near end)
If you spend about 37 US$ for a foreign subscription to the Linux
Journal, you can access their on-line archive of LJ articles. They've
had many articles on industrial and laboratory applications. You can
probably check their article index (and a few articles) without the
subscription.
http://www.linuxjournal.com or http://www.ssc.com
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: "kryss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.sources.kernel
Subject: Re: Kernel installation question
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:39:25 +0200
It means you have succesfully configure the kernel, so you have to type :
"make dep ; make clean" in order to prepare the configuration.
Then you have to type : "make zImage" or "make bzImage" or anything you
need, it depends on you.
Ah, end when you say "1.2.13" as version number, try http://www.kernel.org ,
there is the version 2.2.5 wich is out, it may help if you have other
problems.
Daryl J. Bourdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message :
7eth1e$2ig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi,
> I have just installed RH5.2 and everything appears to be fine, but in
order
> to run some of the software I used to use at Uni. I need to install kernel
> 1.2.13 for the poplog system. I tried following the instructions in the
> Kernel-HOWTO, but failed because I don't know what it means when it says
to
> check the Makefile before continuing with make dep and make clean and make
> zImage etc.
> Can someone please shed some light on what I am supposed to be doing with
> Makefile ?
>
> thanks,
> Daryl J. Bourdon
>
>
>
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From: "David Mulcahy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: crc error when booting RedHat 5.1 (2)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:20:41 +0100
Yes I do dual boot. All was fine with both operating systems (Linux and
Win95), when I was using a Pentiun 166 chip. Only when I upgraded to the
233 MMX did the problems begin.
Windows continued to boot fine, but I started to have some small problems
after installing the new chip. Linux on the other hand refused to boot
returning the crc error message.
I then tried to reinstall RedHat with the installation/boot disk but got the
same error message.
I have also received the same crc error when using a nearly dead IBM 6x86MX
PR200. That was on an other system. so the results have no direct affect on
my current system.
Because of the results with the IBM chip this is why I am thinking that I
have been sold a dodgy chip. Is linux smart enough to detect if the chip
has been overclocked before and been damaged. I know from previous
experience that windows will continue to run a faulty chip and only crash
every now and again giving you enough cause to think that it could be a
software problem.
Is the crc error message a legitimate error after the Uncompressing linux
message appears at boot time.
Thanks again.
David
P.S. To the best of my knowledge I have set all my jumper settings to the
correct setting for my 233 MMX chip.
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gzip & bzip2
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:49:56 -0400
Muzh wrote:
>
> bzip2 compresses about 30% more than gzip, resulting in smaller
> archives. Apart from that, I don't know --
>
In most cases. I have actually had 'bzip2 -9' perform markedly worse than
'gzip -9' on several occasions, but for the most part, bzip2 will win in
compression performance.
Also, because of the design of the bzip2 algorithm, the bzip2 compression time
is slow (and is at its worst for 'bzip2 -9') compared to gzip, which is zippy
(no pun intended) at all levels of compression.
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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From: Anthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,hk.comp.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Detech Modem Speed
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:54:39 +0000
Jack Cheng wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> How do I check the connection speed while the modem on line ?
>
> Thanks
> Jack Cheng
Depends on how you get online. If you use minicom to gets online
you can deal with the modem directly - there is a trick to suspend
the modem and than type something like at commands to show the
statistic, after that you can resume it.
If you are using Kppp to dial into an ISP then Kppp has a graph to
show you the speed (not accurate if you use a local proxy server).
I use WindowMaker 0.52, the wmppp dock icon show me bytes transfer
per second in a small graph - if this is what u want.
Connection speed is a constant, online the transfer rate is different
over time. Also, data travel in a network is always in packets,
like letter from postoffice, you can wait for seconds or minutes
untill the next packet come so transfer rate is only an approximation.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: 13 Apr 1999 19:48:49 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7evlah$nk5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Edwin E. Thorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
....
>Do you know of anyone who has walked completely away from Windows on other
>than a server or a home machine? Can you really give up the vast amount
>of Windows software?
I worked in a more or less normal office setting for 10 years, Windows free.
I ran OS/2 exclusively for several years - then eventually caused the
corporate introduction of Linux.
Yes, most everyone else were ga-ga Billy lovers, but I tried to overlook that.
>Besides Quake, X-Plane, and rumors of a Half-life port, what games are
>there for Linux?
I rarely play games other than bridge.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Vitithoe)
Subject: Re: Win 98 Killed lilo - can't start Linux
Date: 13 Apr 1999 17:28:30 GMT
Hi,
I don't know how to fix the problem, but I can tell you that this has happened
too me too. My system (IDE drives) had separate Win98 and Linux partitions
on the same disk.
When Win98 crashed, it occasionally corrupted my Linux partition. I discovered
this by booting from my rescue disk and running `fdisk`.
I have yet to figure out why this is happening. I'm eventually going to install
a separate hard drive for Linux. Hopefully, this will fix the problem.
Does anyone have any insights on this one?
- Dave (Da Slug)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I can't fix lilo.
: I have a Scsi disk and when I boot from the Rescue floppies, 0 SCSI devices
: are detected. I can't use insmod because aic7xxx and insmod are not on the
: rescue set. I can boot in expert mode (using the CDROM) and find aic7xxx and
: insmod, but I can't copy them to a floppy because device /dev/fd0 does not
: exist. When I try to run Lilo from expert mode, I get the error message:
: Can't find file or directory /dev/sda.
: Anyone have any suggestions?
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:59:26 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
*** No Spam wrote:
>
> I have been a Linux user/fan for 2+ years now. Recently I heard some bad
> news from one of my friends. I heard that M$ is working on an M$ Linux and
> they are going to release their crappy products for Linux, except that the
> program will only run if you have the M$ Linux kernel. So I think very soon
> we'll kiss our good old linux goodbye.
You know, I think I saw one of those MS Linux box sets at FutureShop
this weekend. Something like $300 I think....course it was %20 off, but
I like my slackware.
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:27:03 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh yes.
jik- wrote:
> Is Linux trademarked?
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From: Michael Peppler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Linux Database for commercial project
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:31:37 +0000
Warren Rodie wrote:
>
> I have to set up a back end database for a web site. I want to use linux to
> run the server and I need to select a database for it.
>
> I had been planning on using Oracle but we have just been quoted $30000
> (Aus) per CPU (We were thinking 2 cpus) and that seems maybe a bit
> expensive.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with other databases under linux (redhat)?
Do you have the RedHat 5.2 CDs?
If so you have Sybase 11.0.3.3 on the third CD.
Free.
Also for deployment.
It's not the latest Sybase release available on other platforms (that's 11.9.2/3),
but it's plenty good enough for what you have in mind, and commercial support as well
as the latest releases are in the pipeline.
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Forever spawning process
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:31:15 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile) writes:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>What happens if some user spawns a forever forking process? Will linux
>>stop it's growth? Is there a way to kill all of a users processes?
>>
># skill -9 luser
Right, but that only works if you noticed it fast enough.
A fork bomb should better be avoided by limiting the number of
processes and/or the memory that a single user may be using at a
given time. See "man ulimit" or "man bash" (and then scroll down until
the built-in commands get explained) .
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Disabling touchpad tap feature?
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:15:28 GMT
I have a Compaq Armada 1598 laptop with an Alps Touchpad. In Windows I was
able to disable the tap-to-click feature. (The feature where you can tap
twice on the pad to get a click.) Is this possible in Linux? I'm always
accidentally clicking with this feature on.
Cheers,
Ben
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From: Julio De Gregorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Did someone got the SONY Spressa SCSI 4x8 burnning?
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:40:20 -0300
Hi !
I have a Sony Spressa SCSI 4x8 CDR.
Is there a driver for the Initio INI9100AS SCSI card that ships with the
recorder??
ThanX
-= Julio =-
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Remove the NOSPAM to email me.
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.5 ppp
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:51:33 -0400
You need ppp 2.3.5 or newer for the 2.2.x kernels. What's your version?
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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From: Jeff Holloway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:52:39 -0700
Edwin E. Thorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scott Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Civilization Call to Power should be out around the end of the
>> month...
> So what it seems to come down to is that there are fewer games for Linux
> than you can count on your fingers.
Followups set to groups that make sense...
Shit! You're right! I'm scrapping my linux machine right now, and calling
Uncle Bill for a nice fresh copy of Windows 98!!! I can't wait!
Jeff
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From: Iain A F Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: 13 Apr 1999 18:34:53 +0100
The entity calling itself jik- wrote:
>
> Is Linux trademarked?
Yes, Linus holds the trademark.
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Spider Software Ltd Leith Scotland +44.131.475.7045
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From: Cameron Hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: 14 Apr 1999 01:24:28 GMT
Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>**Nick Brown wrote:
>>
>> I don't think [m]any Linux users would use M$ products for Linux even if
>> (1) they ran on all OSS kernels and (2) they were free.
>What a silly attitude. I despair at the quality of much MS software,
>especially Windows 95, but if MS released something that was worth the
>money charged to me, I'd buy and use it. This anti-Microsoft attitude
>held by many Linux users can get a bit childish.
The attitude is in no way childish or silly. The attitute is based on
the concept of reputation. Microsoft have blown their reputation in many
users' minds so those users are not willing to use Microsoft's software.
Microsoft have shown time and time again that almost all of their software
is buggy bloated crap, their business practices are suspect and that they
do not care much about users. In my mind, that has ipperairably damaged
their reputation.
I trust my experience, and in my experience using microsoft's software
is a poor deal. I'll go elsewhere thanks.
>I would be quite happy if all the world's software was produced by
>Microsoft so long as it was "free" (as in restrictions, but not
>necessarily money), of stonkingly good quality and did what I want.
Quite. But microsoft does not appear capable if producing software of
stinkingly good quality, so I'm not going to even bother wasting my time
evaluating it. If they can change their reputation for the better, then
I may consider their software, but right now, I'll just dismiss it out
of hand.
--
Cameron Hutchison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | Onward To Mars
GCS d--@ -p+ c++(++++) l++ u+ e+ m+(-) s n- h++ f? !g w+ t r+
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .tar files
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:09:21 -0700
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Batags <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What is the basic commands to "unzip" .tar.gz files?
The command to uncompress is "gunzip".
However GNU tar allows to uncompress and extract files from the archive in
one step using the "z" option of tar.
> Also is there such
> thing of a .exe in linux,
No.
If a file is executable or not is determined by the executable flag, try
"ls -l".
>How do I exec a program ?
Just call it by name. Please note, that the current working directory (CWD)
usually is not in your search path, so you must use "./filename" instead of
"filename" to run a program in the CWD.
>How do I identify
> these type files? .exe = ? , in linux.
See above, it's the executable flag
jue
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