Linux-Misc Digest #839, Volume #21 Thu, 16 Sep 99 20:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: linux box set up, no cd rom, no modem, need help (Eric Y. Chang)
HELP!!! Linux Netscape Keyboard Event Problem (Olivier Girard)
Re: oddities after rpm upgrades (jim barchuk)
Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (Thomas Muders)
How to access NTFS partition? ("Jos�as Galv�n Reyes")
My first Linux crash - what should I have done? (Glen Scurr)
Re: Friend says "Linux Sucks", need help coming back! ("Jim")
Re: LILO without linux! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Absurd Linux mentality ! (Barry Margolin)
I lose my data ("Ariel Frajman")
Re: xEMACS and AML (DanH)
Re: Recompiling kernal with redhat 6.0 question (Adrian Hands)
Re: Q? - best combo of linux distrib and apps for 3rd world ("Mel Martin")
Re: Attacks bringing my system down! (William Burrow)
Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!! (Rick Henry)
Gnome questions (Ilya)
"bash: id:command not found" (cherry liu)
linux dependecies ("C. S. Jennings")
Linux newbie installation help ("Blacka")
How can I change telephone numbers in /etc/chatscript with a dialog? (Phillip
Deackes)
Re: I lose my data (Juergen Heinzl)
Friend says "Linux Sucks", need help coming back! (Michael Ramey)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Y. Chang)
Subject: Re: linux box set up, no cd rom, no modem, need help
Date: 16 Sep 1999 21:27:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe that most of the responses that you will get to
this query will say that you can install most of the
distributions over the network. What they will neglect
(or incorrectly assume) is that there is a Linux machine
in the network with a CDROM drive. If you do not have one,
or, if your network is currently not set up, you will have
a tough time. I have a machine in my network named "installer".
If you have one of these, you will be in good shape.
Blacka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi, I currently have a windows 98 machine, and a pent 90 with DOS. I was
: wondering if it was possible to install linux on the DOS computer through a
: network. Does the network have to be set up first? The hub and all the other
: stuff are set up, but stuff like samba are not in place since linux isnt
: installed yet.
: My question : How do I install linux on a pentium 90 computer which has no
: modem, and no cd-rom, it only has a network card. Please help me.
: Orrin Jolly
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From: Olivier Girard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x,netscape.public.general
Subject: HELP!!! Linux Netscape Keyboard Event Problem
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:01:27 GMT
Javascript keyboard events (OnKeyPress etc....) are not functionning at
all for my Linux XFree86 x86 version. I guess it is some X setup (key
binding ) file which isn't well configured. However I tried to modify
the /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/Netscape (RH6.0) file but it didn't fix
the problem. Maybe it is the Gnome configuration (I am using
gnome) which is involved. How knows?
Please Help !!!!!
Olivier Girard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jim barchuk)
Subject: Re: oddities after rpm upgrades
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:04:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello All!
jim barchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Recent upgrades include termcap, samba, tcp_wrappers, and a couple of
> worked for -everything- under xterm. Now, plain bash commands are still b
> on w as they always were, but programs run under them such as pine and
> taper reverse video, white on black. Not -fully- reversed, and the effects
> are so weird that I really can't describe it without a lot of words, but
> things are very different. My intuitive guess is that upgrading termcap
> caused this, but I can't find where/how to fix it. Any clues?
Fixed the b/w problem by downgrading from termcap 9.13 to 9.12.
Gofigger. :)
Have a :) day!
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jim barchuk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Muders)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: 16 Sep 1999 22:30:09 GMT
In article <7rrnm7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt O'Toole wrote:
>
>Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> LOL. I think, you are kidding. KDE ist the last thing I would install on
>> a system with less than 64meg RAM. The most of Qt-stuff and KDE seem to
>> need more and more memory in the newer versions.
>
>It runs fine on my machine, with 48MB.
>
Compared to Gnome, KDE is incredibly slow. I don't know why. Good examples:
check out how long kfm needs to display a directory with many files
and how long needs gmc. The difference is incredible!!
Another example is the dialog where you can choose the icon for
a program. This also in Gnome is way faster then in KDE.
I really wonder what those KDE guys are doing there. I even have the
impression that KDE gets slower and slower with each release...
Regards
Thomas
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From: "Jos�as Galv�n Reyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: How to access NTFS partition?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:50:04 -0600
I want install Linux on my laptop, this have two NFTS partitions... how can
i do it?
Please, sendme a mail
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From: Glen Scurr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: My first Linux crash - what should I have done?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:54:15 GMT
I had installed quake2, and had been playing it, no problems, from the
console.
But then, I launched it from an xterm. Quake2 ran fine but when I quit,
it said that it couldn't write a cfg file, probably a permission thing,
but then I was in a full screen text mode and nothing would get me out.
Ctrl-c, ctrl-z, alt-f1..f10 ctrl-alt-f1..f10, even alt-ctrl-del did
nothing.
Now obviously, quake2 is a console app and I shouldn't run it from an
xterm. Or should I be able to?
But when it did hang like that, what else could I have tried to do to
kill quake2 or get to another console? I forgot to try
alt-ctrl-backspace.
thx,
glen
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From: "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Friend says "Linux Sucks", need help coming back!
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:34:44 -0000
The best way is to test and try to see wath you think. I think both system
is exelent but the big diferense is that I must be a criminal to use WIN98
due it pretty expensive and Linux is free. For games do I always run 98 and
when when I paint and do some FTP I use Linux. A dual boot or to do like me,
put the OS on diferent primary masterHD and switch HD when you shall run
another system.
But the its important to learn that Linux people say Win sux and Win folkes
say Linux sux, This can only mean that both system i almost euqual.
/Jim
P.S Sorry for the bad spelling D.S
Michael Ramey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Here's a fun one for ya
>
> I have this friend, we are both cs majors who are starting out to use
> Linux for school. There is one difference though, I want to use it, he
> will just use it when he has to. And thats ok with me. But everytime
> he uses it and gets frustrated, or sees me using it he just babbles off
> "Linux Sucks!" And I am really too ignorant to explain why his win98
> box is a pos, and why Linux doesn't suck. So thats why I need someone
> to explain some little comebacks to "Linux Sucks" and leave him
> speechless and me smiling.
>
> please help! need suggestions
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LILO without linux!
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:47:23 GMT
> repartitioned it etc - I tried using tomsroot to setup a
...
> It's true, there wasn't any so I did a mkdir /boot and
> dd if=/dev/hda of=/boot/boot.b bs=512 count=1.
No no no boot.b is part of the lilo distribution and it is on
tomsrtbt, it is just where you don't think to look for it, on
the floppy itself.
Do something like:
mount /dev/fd0u1722 /fl
cp /fl/boot.b /boot
-Tom
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From: Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Absurd Linux mentality !
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:19:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Erik van Bronkhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I do not know what "tac" is, do you suggest that it copies
>stdout to stdin? ;-)
It's what some versions of Unix have instead of the -r option to tail.
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From: "Ariel Frajman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I lose my data
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:00:44 +0200
I am using the RH Linux ver 6.00 as server. Today I had problem to enter to
the system. The problem use with the Samba. When I try to fix it I found
that all my data destroyed. All the use under one directory. Does someone
have idea how I can undelete the data?.
Regards
Ariel
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From: DanH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: xEMACS and AML
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:36:46 -0400
"Jos�as Galv�n Reyes" wrote:
>
> Hello, i a new with Linux.
>
> I have not installed Linux on my computer jet, but i will work with AML
> (Adaptive Modeling Laguaje) it works with xemacs command in a Solaris
> release V , it work with linux?
Solaris binaries will not run (generally) on Linux. You might find a
Linux version though.
Dan
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recompiling kernal with redhat 6.0 question
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:51:00 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pete Foley wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am in the process of attempting to upgrade my kernel. I have done the
> following so far:
>
> got 2.2.12
> un tared it
> ran make config
> ran make dep
> ran make clean
> ran make zImage
>
> Now what do I do? I dunno how to install it into lilo... any help?
>
> some places say run zLilo or whatever to compile it into lilo...
> some say "run lilo" to put the new kernel into it
> some say edit lilo.conf...
>
> what is the best and easiest way to do this is redhat 6.0? thanks...
>
> -Pete
>
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> http://www.searchlinux.com
make sure the new image is in /boot/,
edit lilo.conf
run lilo to write a new MBR.
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From: "Mel Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Q? - best combo of linux distrib and apps for 3rd world
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:08:09 -0400
If you use old hardware be prepared to run old apps. Expecting to run apps
built on and for Pentium class and better machines on obsolete hardware is
folly regardless of the operating system. Do they REALLY need the latest
apps? I run a business on software I bought in '93 on a 486.
Allan L. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:MPG.1240a61146889fb69896c1@news...
> I am looking for the best combination of distribution, configuration and
> office productivity apps with the following goal.
>
> - Reasonable performance on 486-33, 16 MB Ram, <400 MB HD.
> - All software free.
> - apps appropriate for NON-Technical end users need to do wordprocessing,
>
> spreadsheet, email, web browsing, and callandering.
> - apps not dead (ie: old versions with no future or new development)
>
> I am doing this as a pet project to see if it is feasible to use linux
> and linux available apps to distribute to non-profit workers in 3rd world
>
> countries where $$$ and hdwr are scarce.
>
> I am currently testing on 486-100 AMD, 20 MB Ram, 500 MB HD.
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Attacks bringing my system down!
Date: 16 Sep 1999 19:01:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:58:48 -0400,
Justin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've posted to this group before about how my Redhat 6.0 system
>goes down every few days with dire error messages (like "Aiee !
>system panic...).
>I ran diagnostics on my machine and it passed all tests. At the same time,
>
>our departmental Sun systems (Ultrasparc servers) slow down to a crawl
>--- and it
>turned out that some hackers are attacking our systems with pings and
>telnets (a packet sniffer disclosed that our high-speed network is
>completely saturated by pings, ftp's and telnets from a few sources.
>
>The question is: how do I prevent these attacks from crashing my Linux system?
I'd jump on the firewall bandwagon with the other guy.
If Linux is falling over due to high bandwidth usage, it might be
worthwhile to send a note to the linux-kernel list
(linux-kernel(at)vger.rutgers.edu). Maybe somebody will take note,
though it is a high traffic list and might get missed.
There are firewall products that you can just plug in after the
router/switch, and there are often rules you can give many smart routers/
switches to stop unwanted attacks.
>Is there some way to reconfigure my system to make it less vulnerable?
Have you turned on syncookies? Perhaps these people are trying the
infamous syn flood attack.
<BLINK>BTW, please, no HTML.</BLINK>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.questions
From: Rick Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!!
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:54:13 -0700
My problem is not a lack of software... it's more on the
hardware end... I have a parallel port midi interface
that I can't seem to find a driver for. Every other piece
of harware (mostly SCSI) that I have is recognized
by Linux with this one exception.
As for software, there's plenty available for Linux (Jazz is
what I would probably use for midi composition).
Rick
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On 15 Sep 1999, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (Nicolas De Rico) writes:
>
> >Windows is like heroine. You have to flush it out of your system. You
> >do that by formating your hard drive and installing Linux. Keep your
> >system Windows-free for 2 months and then you'll feel much better. If
> >you think that you can't live without win-application A or B, then it's
> >just the addiction talking. The Win-Purge may hurt you at first, but
> >not for long.
>
> I like this analogy. Let's run with it. Picture Bill Gates standing
> in a dark alley, whispering to passersby: "Psst! Hey, kid! Want to
> taste something really good?" And he holds out some shiny, hypnotic
> GUI that reels them in. Once hooked, they have to keep coming back
> to him for more, because he controls the territory and crushes or
> freezes out any would-be competitors, and forms cartels with suppliers.
>
> Going cold turkey, as you've described above, would indeed be hard.
> But there's always methadone therapy (Wine, tapering off to fvwm95).
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Gibbs)
> Remove the first period after the "at" sign to reply.
>
>
>
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Gnome questions
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:11:07 GMT
How do create menues on the root window - that is if I click on the root
window with my right button I get a pop-up menu with options. I already have
some in Gnome (RH 6.0) but I would like to add more. What file do I need to
modify?
Also:
How do make my environment point-to-raise instead of click-to-riase?
And lastly: How do I check what resolution I am running at? I have this line
in my /var/gdm/:0.log file, does that mean that I am running at full 1280x1024
mode?
(**) Mach64: Mode "1280x1024": mode clock = 110.000
It really seems that I am not getting 1280x1024 but I don't know.
And CTRL-ALT-+ does not do anything, not even in the number pad.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (cherry liu)
Subject: "bash: id:command not found"
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:05:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi,
a new user had been login linux pc,but this system report as the
following:
bash: id:command not found
bash: id:commnad not found
[:too many arguments
bash: id: command not found
what are these meaning.
regards
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From: "C. S. Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux dependecies
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:14:26 -0500
I am looking for the following:
id.so.1 and libXm.so.1
If anyone knows where I can find them and where they should reside on my
linux setup I would appreciate a note via e-mail. I am attempting to load
Amaya, a new browser, and it does not find these files.
My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I need this information ASAP.
Thanks a lot.
C. S. Jennings
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From: "Blacka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux newbie installation help
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:08:56 -0700
Ok, I just bought a Pentium 90 with the intent of installing linux on it. I
am trying to learn linux on this box. It doesnt have a cd rom however, but
it has a network card. I was planning installing it via NFS, using my other
machine which has a cdrom drive. Problem :The network card won't load in DOS
(it's running a slim version of DOS 6.22).
My question is : Since DOS won't load the driver, when I try installing
Linux via NFS, will linux recognise the Network card and start the
installation or will it fail?? The network card works fine, its just that
the driver won't load in DOS.
Thanks Much
Orrin Jolly
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Deackes)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: How can I change telephone numbers in /etc/chatscript with a dialog?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:00:21 GMT
My IP uses a different telephone number at the weekend to permit access
free of call charges. The problem is that the number changes each
weekend. What I would like to have is an icon I can click on which opens
some sort of dialogu box asking for the number. When entered, the number
should replace the one in /etc/chatscript
I would even be happy having an xterm open to ask the question.
I use this sort of thing regularly on my Linux box, but I don't know how
to change something inside of a file.
Any help would be much appreciated.
--
Phillip Deackes
Debian Linux (Potato)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: I lose my data
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:37:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ariel Frajman wrote:
>I am using the RH Linux ver 6.00 as server. Today I had problem to enter to
>the system. The problem use with the Samba. When I try to fix it I found
>that all my data destroyed. All the use under one directory. Does someone
>have idea how I can undelete the data?.
Use the backup ... or take this as a hint for the future. Not nice
but the truth.
Ta',
Juergen
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From: Michael Ramey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Friend says "Linux Sucks", need help coming back!
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:27:34 -0400
Here's a fun one for ya
I have this friend, we are both cs majors who are starting out to use
Linux for school. There is one difference though, I want to use it, he
will just use it when he has to. And thats ok with me. But everytime
he uses it and gets frustrated, or sees me using it he just babbles off
"Linux Sucks!" And I am really too ignorant to explain why his win98
box is a pos, and why Linux doesn't suck. So thats why I need someone
to explain some little comebacks to "Linux Sucks" and leave him
speechless and me smiling.
please help! need suggestions
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