Linux-Misc Digest #839, Volume #24 Sat, 17 Jun 00 11:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Lilo Problem (Martin Herrman)
Re: xmms (Al Bolduc)
Re: Lilo Problem (Anita Lewis)
External Modem`s ("Ali")
Re: RedHat vs Slackware (John Hasler)
Re: External Modem`s (Bit Twister)
Re: External Modem`s (Dan Glover)
Re: External Modem`s (Joeri Sebrechts)
Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet? (Joeri Sebrechts)
Re: RedHat vs Slackware ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet? (Christopher Wong)
Re: StarOffice install RPM (Richard)
Re: Why does linuxconf see 5 NICs? (Roger Blake)
Re: Linux article in PC world (jj2me)
Re: samba: files disappearing (Rod Smith)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,nl.comp.os.linux.overig,nl.comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Lilo Problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 Jun 2000 12:16:08 GMT
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:50:53 +0200, FROZEN_Steam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I already tried it on a floppy disk as well
>
> lilo output is just:
>
> added Linux*
> added windows
>
> That's the normal ouput isn't it?
hm.. yep, that's what it should be..
>
> Any other ideas?
>
not really.. maybe first cleaning up the mbr with using 'fdisk /mbr' in DOS?
Then install lilo again in the mbr? Maybe you can put lilo at the first sector
in stead of in the mbr?
good luck!
Martin
--
Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
2:10pm up 9 days, 14:15, 4 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.02
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Al Bolduc)
Subject: Re: xmms
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:54:44 GMT
The following gets my opl3 working.
/sbin/modprobe mpu401
/sbin/modprobe ad1848
/sbin/modprobe opl3sa2 io=0x370 mss_io=0x530 mpu_io=0x330 irq=5 dma=0 dma2=1
/sbin/modprobe opl3 io=0x388
And don't forget to turn the volume up.
/usr/local/bin/aumix -v 75 -w 100 -b 50 -t 50
chmod 666 /dev/dsp /dev/audio /dev/mixer /dev/cdrom
--
Al
# Al Bolduc - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,nl.comp.os.linux.overig,nl.comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Lilo Problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:59:37 GMT
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:29:40 +0200, FROZEN_Steam wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm having some trouble using lilo.
>
>I've configured lilo on mbr, but when it starts, There's only an 'L' on my
>screen and I can do nothing but hit reset...
>
>I hava a Gigabyte GA71XE mainboard wth an AMD Athlon 700
>
>Could someone pls help?
>
>Thanx,
>Floris
>
boot with floppy and go into X if you can. cd /usr/doc/lilo-<number>/doc
and do gv User_Guide.ps. If you can't use X then copy User_Guide.ps to a
dos formatted floppy and view it with acrobat in windows.
while you are in the directory where the file is located, do:
mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy (use msdos instead of vfat if you need
to)
cp User_Guide.ps /mnt/floppy
umount /mnt/floppy
Once you get in there, go to page 44 and look at the error messages. L
means basically a geometry mismatch. The correction for this is in section
3.4 of the doc. Good luck.
Anita
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From: "Ali" <cracker@$$$$ redhotant.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: External Modem`s
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:06:50 +0100
Will any external modem work with linux or is it specific brands.
Also are ISA modems easy enough to set up.
Thanks in Advance
Ali
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat vs Slackware
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:28:31 GMT
Simon Lemieux writes:
> Sound very impressive, but since most applications I use are emacs, g++,
> netscape and top...
About what I use.
> ...this seems useless to me.
'apt-get install emacs20' to upgrade, install, and configure emacs and all
its dependencies while you work is useless? You see no value in being able
to upgrade libc and all its dependencies with a single command?
> I'm not looking for any user-friendly fancy managing program,...
Debian's command line package management tools are very powerful but are
not often accused of being excessively user friendly or fancy.
> ...I'm just looking for a very stable platform for programming, a
> platform that would allow me to configure it Exactly the way I want it
> to,...
That describes Debian.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: External Modem`s
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:26:25 GMT
Externals always setup and you get to see the leds showing you what
is going on, depending on model.
ISA modems:
Some have hardware straps to set io/interrupt address and work fine.
Some require Micro$oft OS to set the interrupt/io address.
Then you could use it on linux.
Some require Micro$oft OS to work and will not work
on linux (winmodems).
A few winmodems will work on linux.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:06:50 +0100, Ali <cracker@$$$$redhotant.com> wrote:
>Will any external modem work with linux or is it specific brands.
>Also are ISA modems easy enough to set up.
--
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If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
Do a, man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a script.
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From: Dan Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: External Modem`s
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:27:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ali"
<cracker@$$$$ redhotant.com> wrote:
>Will any external modem work with linux or is it specific brands.
Anything should work, provided it uses a standard serial port. If it's
USB then seek specific advice before buying.
>Also are ISA modems easy enough to set up.
Depends. I've had no problems, other people seem to get well and truly
stuck with the PnP side of things. Better to go for external unless you
have good reasons.
Dan
--
Dan Glover ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Joeri Sebrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: External Modem`s
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:29:27 GMT
It's not guaranteed that an external modem is not a winmodem (and thus
likely to only work in windows). I've seen external winmodems before.
You need to make sure it's not a winmodem (if they mention "designed for
windows" on the box, it's a winmodem probably), or otherwise check for
the winmodem support in the hardware howto on www.linuxdocs.org
Sadly enough the easiest way to know if your modem is a regular modem is
still checking the price tag. They are generally more expensive. But in
return you get a real modem, instead of a front-end to your cpu that
drains time away from more usefull stuff, like animating all those XXX
movies ;-)
As far as I know (but it's been a while) ISA modems are generally no
different from external modems to setup. I don't remember the details,
but I managed to set it up on my very first install of linux, back when
I knew absolutely nothing of *nix, so it can't be that hard.
good luck,
Joeri Sebrechts
Ali wrote:
>
> Will any external modem work with linux or is it specific brands.
> Also are ISA modems easy enough to set up.
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
> Ali
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From: Joeri Sebrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet?
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:41:41 GMT
The question remains if it's actually necessary to do a spindown ?
An actual spindown/spinup causes a lot of wear and tear by itself on a
disk.
And even a good config will probably get you about 5 spindowns/spinups a
day, so maybe it's better to just "leave it running".
It might be interesting to get the manufacturers opinion. Quantum was
very helpful when I got into a discussion about working environment
temperatures with them, so ...
> >' Because there doesn't appear to be any other way to stop crond from reading
> >' the disk every 60 seconds, which it does to see whether its `crontab' has
> >' changed, and because there's no reason for a single-user desktop PC, w/o a
> >' permanent network connection, to be putting mechanical wear on the disk
> >' 24h/day. at is probably better for scheduling such a system anyway; does
> >' it suffer from the same compulsive behavior ? --`kamborg'
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat vs Slackware
Date: 17 Jun 2000 13:59:39 GMT
Simon Lemieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Sound very impressive, but since most applications I use are emacs, g++,
: netscape and top... and that I don't need any other stuff, this seems useless to
: me. I'm not looking for any user-friendly fancy managing program, I'm just
It's pretty useful. I use both slackware and debian. Slackware for my
box so that I can do what I like (and because I'm still using slackware
3.0 from 4 or 5 years ago), and debian for other peoples, so that I can
update them without working on them. And yes, you do need bug handlers
for emacs, g++, netscape and top ... I can think of several outstanding
bugs for those off the top of my head and if you check the debian
database you'll see more.
: looking for a very stable platform for programming, a platform that would allow
: me to configure it Exactly the way I want it to, I'm currently using RedHat 6.1
: (for no apparent reason) and I've heard Slackware would provide me such
: things...
Any platform would. Just ignore what they provide and do your own
thing.
: I think I forgot to mention exactly what I was looking for, I was actually
: wondering if Slackware would support same hardware as RedHat, security issues,
It's nothing to do with the distro, given that you plan on doing it
yourself.
: software available (I would need XFree86 4.0 for example...), etc...
I really don't understand the mix of lnowledge you show. How can you be
asking about what distros support after showing that you are wanting
to compile things your way? A distro is just a bunch of compiled
software (sources provided). Once you start recompiling it and adding
or deleting stuff, and making things just as you like them to be, you're
not using the distro, you're replacing it.
Peter
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet?
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:58:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8ido0k$gks$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Christopher Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: - XEmacs info system broken. They compressed the info files with
>
>Ha haaaah. Us vi users laugh. Adn info isn't a loss to me :-).
>Yes, this is a clean MAndrake bug, however. Work around: recompress the
>infor files with gzip this time.
It's not difficult to tell XEmacs how to deal with bzip2-ed info
files. It's just that I hate cluttering my system with work-arounds of
Mandrake's bugs. There really is no excuse to keep a reported bug like
this for so long. To get XEmacs to grok info.bz2 files, one can put
the following in .emacs:
;;; So Emacs info-mode can handle .bz2 files
(require 'info)
(push '(".info.bz2" . "bzip2 -dc %s") Info-suffix-list) (push '(".bz2"
. "bzip2 -dc %s") Info-suffix-list)
>: - The ftape driver did not work. Somewhere between Mandrake 5 and 6,
>
>This is a kernel bug if it is so. Not a mandrake bug. Get a standard
>kernel (latest stable), test the driver, and report it to the
>maintainer if there is a problem.
>
>: it broke. My floppy tape drive would not work until I manually loaded
>: zftape.o. I reported the problem to Mandrake, and they closed the bug
>
>Oh, well, in that case, yes it is a mandrake bug! What's zftape? I've
>only ever heard of or used ftape. Wouldn't this merely be a question of
>setting your conf.modules to contain the right alias?
ftape needs zftape to work. That was a change in the ftape driver
quite a while back. They should both be loaded together in all
cases. I never understood why this did not happen in Mandrake.
>: - Upgrade install did not. I tried their upgrade installation over my
>
>Yes, well, typical RPM based foul up.
>
>: Mandrake 6.1 machine. I tweaked the selection of packages and ran the
>: upgrade. After the install, I found that most of the packages were not
>: upgraded. I think there was some dependency issues that they neglected
>: to handle or inform me about. I had to upgrade many of the packages by
>: hand.
>
>Agreed and mostly inevitable with an rpm-based system? I don't recall
>that it records minimal-version-required info in the package?
No, the trouble was how the install dealt with dependencies. With
RedHat's classic installation, it would warn me of missing
dependencies and offer to install them for me. Mandrake, on the other
hand, quietly dropped those packages that needed those dependencies.
>: - Mandrake Security (msec) gone berzerk. One of their security
>
>Yes, this is mandrakes pigeon. Probably preferable to whatever
>obscurantism redhat does, however (in my very biased opinion,
>obviously).
Not really, since RedHat does not have an equivalent "obscurantism"
that muddles with my directory permissions, sends my hard disk
berzerk every so often (hourly, at one point) and made my system
unbootable. Wierdness like this make me want to go back to RedHat.
Chris
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Subject: Re: StarOffice install RPM
From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 07:05:36 -0700
There should be a readme file in the StarOffice directory on the
CD that tells you how to install it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Why does linuxconf see 5 NICs?
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:48:31 GMT
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:05:00 +0200, Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Should be no problem to remove the entries. You might want to look at your
>/etc/conf.modules (although your guess is as good as mine ...)
First place I looked. :-) No "extra" entries there. I even removed
all the commented lines that were there for unused devices and it made
no difference. I just can't figure out what config file(s) linuxconf
is getting the bogus entries from...
--
Roger Blake
(remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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From: jj2me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux article in PC world
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:38:40 GMT
Hey - speaking of flying planes, that reminds me of an Operating System
story. Might be an old story, dont't know, but here goes -
UNIX Airways
Everyone brings one piece of the plane along when they come
to the airport. They all go out on the runway and put the
plane together piece by piece, arguing non-stop about what
kind of plane they are supposed to be building.
Air DOS
Everybody pushes the airplane until it glides, then they jump
on and let the plane coast until it hits the ground again.
Then they push again, jump on again, and so on ...
Mac Airlines
All the stewards, captains, baggage handlers, and ticket agents
look and act exactly the same. Every time you ask questions
about details, you are gently but firmly told that you don't
need to know, don't want to know, and everything will be done
for you without you ever having to know, so just shut up.
Windows Air
The terminal is pretty and colorful, with friendly stewards,
easy baggage check and boarding, and a smooth take-off. After
about 10 minutes in the air, the plane explodes with no warning
whatsoever.
Windows NT Air
Just like Windows Air, but costs more, uses much bigger planes,
and takes out all the other aircraft within a 40-mile radius
when it explodes.
Linux Air
Disgruntled employees of all the other OS airlines decide to
start their own airline. They build the planes, ticket counters,
and pave the runways themselves. They charge a small fee to
cover the cost of printing the ticket, but you can also download
and print the ticket yourself. When you board the plane, you
are given a seat, four bolts, a wrench and a copy of the
seat-HOWTO.html. Once settled, the fully adjustable seat is
very comfortable, the plane leaves and arrives on time without
a single problem, the in-flight meal is wonderful. You try to
tell customers of the other airlines about the great trip, but
all they can say is, "You had to do what with the seat?"
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: samba: files disappearing
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.smb
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:02:11 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefano Ghirlanda) writes:
> Hi,
> I have a problem with samba, when I connect with a linux
> client to a linux samba server. I mount the shares with smbmount. Server
> and client have samba versions 2.0.3 and 2.0.5a repsectively.
> If I rename a file to a new name with only the
> case of letters changed, the file is deleted. Example:
> $ touch A
> $ mv A a
> $ ls a
> ls: a: No such file or directory
>
> is this an intrinsic limitation of the SMB protocol, a misconfiguration
> on my side, a bug?
I don't know, but I've confirmed it on my network. I've also got a
workaround: Set the "case sensitive = Yes" parameter for the share. If
this is undesirable because you want to share with Windows clients and
you use programs that don't like case-sensitive filesystems, you can
create two shares or use an include parameter to include a separate file
based on the client OS. For instance:
[foo]
{assorted parameters}
include = smb.conf.%a
You'd then create a file called smb.conf.Samba that contains a single
line:
case sensitive = Yes
The result is that Samba clients will get the "case sensitive = Yes"
parameter, but Windows clients won't. (You need not create files for
Windows clients unless you want to set special parameters for them.)
You can read more about the %a variable and the case sensitive and
include parameters in the smb.conf man page.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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