Linux-Misc Digest #846, Volume #19 Wed, 14 Apr 99 16:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Michael Powe)
Re: New RedHat 5.2 install ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mounting Xenix file system on Linux (Marv Lance)
Re: Emacs W3 browser? (Michael Powe)
Re: RAM disk in Linux or SunOS??? (Michael Powe)
Re: coredump wit free() ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Downloading files in Win 98 for use in Linux (Michael Powe)
System scripts ("Kerry J. Cox")
Re: SIOCADDRT Invalid argument (Kenny McCormack)
[Q:] Office Jet Like Device for Linux (Rainer Dorsch)
Re: PPP problems dialing up (Michael Powe)
Re: HP CD-Writer on NT (Jason Bailey)
Re: what's the best browser for linux? (Josh ''RudeSka'' Rush)
Re: smake to GNU make transition (Paul D. Smith)
Re: Kernel freeze switching Netscape windows (jason)
Re: coredump wit free() (Michal Novotny)
Re: linux email clients (Lasse Kliemann)
Re: Problem with printing postscript (Lasse Kliemann)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Harry Lewis)
Re: Linux is dead (**Nick Brown)
Re: coredump wit free() (Martin Ambuhl)
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: 11 Apr 1999 00:23:03 -0700
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>>>>> "Stuart" == Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stuart> I'm confused - what exactly is so complicated about
Stuart> Windows. If they are intimidated by WIndows, what chance
Stuart> do they have with Linux????
Umm, linux is much easier to use than windows.
>> First, it's the opaque complexity of the Windows environment.
>> It's intimidating. It's a very poor environment for beginners.
>> Second, it's the old conundrum about the more help people get,
>> the more they expect. I remember reading a physicist's
>> account, in another forum, of how nobody in his department
>> seemed capable of configuring emacs; they were always after him
>> to edit their .emacs files for them. We're talking about
>> physicists! The fact was, they just were used to having him do
>> it for them.
Stuart> Just because they're physicists, doesn't mean they will be
Stuart> able to use a computer any better. They will have a
Stuart> certain set of tasks that they need to achieve on their
Stuart> machine, and anything else will probably not interest
Stuart> them.
Wow, you completely missed the point. How could I make it any
plainer?
mp
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:51:21 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: New RedHat 5.2 install
Marc Hoppins wrote:
> This is my new config. A purpose built system.
>
> Gigabyte m/board
> 128Mb SDRAM (100MHz)
> Intel PII 350
> Maxtor 8Gb drive
> Internal ATAPI ZIP
> 32x CDROM
> SB PCI 128
> ATI Rage 128/16Mb
>
> I attempted to install redhat using the CD. I restart the system and
> it boots from the CD...gets past the IDE probe then hangs...Cannot
> figure this one out...any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Marc
Did you try booting from the floppy?
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From: Marv Lance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting Xenix file system on Linux
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:02:05 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes, it is an Intel based PC, a 386 to be exact, and running SCOs Xenix 2.3.2.
Personally, I think the Xenix support in Linux is broken. I have received some email
to the effect that changes need to be made to the c source code and header
files to make it work.
I think I'll just go the uucp route.
Raj Rijhwani wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Marv Lance" writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have an old working Xenix system (2.3.2?) that I wanted to move the data files>
>over to Linux. I removed the disk (a maxstor 80mb) from the xenix box and
> > attached it as a slave drive to the linux box. The linux system recongnized the>
>disk as hdh with a partition hdh4. So far so good. However when I tried to
> > mount the disk with the following ommand:
>
> > mount -r -t xenix /dev/hsh4 /mnt
>
> > I received the following message:
>
> > VFS: unable to read Xenix/SystemV/Coherent superblock on device
> > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1
> > or too many mounted filesystems.
>
> > I searched the news groups and linux archives and came across very little
> > regarding this problem. I was wondering whether anyone has been successful
> > in being to solve this?
>
> > The xenix disk does boot on the xenix box so I know that the file system is
> > good and the software/data is OK.
>
> Was it a PC architecture machine? I have a Xenix machine which whilst
> Intel 80286 based is most definitely not a PC, and I imagine the boot
> loader and partition table would be rather different.
>
> > If anyone has the time perhaps they can help me solve this problem. I am doing
> > this for a friend who is unable to spend several hundred dollars with SCO for a
> > new operating system.
>
> > I know about uucp and direct connections but that is rather slow and tedious.
> > Direct copy from disk would be a lot faster and the preferred route.
>
> You may not have any option BUT to copy machine to machine. I'm not
> entirely sure how I'd go about it. Probably rzsz and cpio -p...
>
> Actually that's got me thinking now. I haven't fired up the
> Xenix box for well over 2 years. About time it was given a run.
> I feel an experiment coming on.
> --
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Lieutenant Green: Launch all Angels!"
> http://www.courtfld.demon.co.uk/raj/ (demon, and gods, willing...)
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Emacs W3 browser?
Date: 12 Apr 1999 01:33:20 -0700
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>>>>> "John" == conover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> Does anyone have users that are using the Emacs W3 browser,
John> (its a browser that is written in elisp, so runs under
John> emacs,) on a consistent basis? There is a new version, 4.0,
John> that supports tables, style sheets, etc. Stable?
Try it.
The w3 mailing list is w3-beta@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mp
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"Would John the Baptist have lost his head if his name was Steve?"
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAM disk in Linux or SunOS???
Date: 13 Apr 1999 03:06:30 -0700
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>>>>> "S" == SpeedyClick Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML> Anyone know how to do a RAM disk in Linux or SunOS?
<BR>I can't find any information on how to do it at all.
<BR> </HTML>
Yes. Do you know how to configure your news"reader" to correctly post
in text only in newsgroups?
mp
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.lang.c,fr.comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: coredump wit free()
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:49:18 GMT
In article <7f1of0$g23$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Fr�d�ric Hoerni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am using a Toshiba Tecra 750 CDT laptop with Linux RedHat 5.2.
> I get a COREDUMP after free() (not everytime).
>
> I'am sure that I have correctly allocated the memory with
> a 'malloc' and not have already freed it before the call 'free()' !
> (I am not a beginner in C...)
Ah, bon. On pourrait le croire. Manifestement, tu es un d�buttant sur le
reseau ; sinon, tu saurais que dans les groupes fr.*, on parle
fran�ais. Et si tu n'�tais pas un d�buttant en C, tu saurais que on
n'est jamais 100% s�r d'avoir correctement g�r� la m�moire, et que
d'avoir �crit au del� de la fin d'un bloc est la cause la plus fr�quente
de telles erreurs. (L'erreur classique ici, c'est d'allouer strlen
octets � la place de strlen+1.)
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downloading files in Win 98 for use in Linux
Date: 11 Apr 1999 00:44:03 -0700
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>>>>> "J" == J Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
J> Is there a way that I can setup my computer where I can
J> download files using Windows, so I can use the file/program in
J> Linux? I assume that I have to setup a directory/drive that
J> can be read by both.
J> I am having problems getting Linux setup for use with my ISP.
J> Until then, I would like to use windows to download files.
Just mount the Win partitions in linux and you can copy the files off
them into linux. For example,
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /dos
That mounts the first partition on the first drive under the /dos
directory on your linux partition. (Of course, you have to make sure
/dos exists.)
mp
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"Would John the Baptist have lost his head if his name was Steve?"
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: System scripts
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:00:44 +0000
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I'm looking for some handy scripts for managing DNS updates, parsing out
Radius logs, etc. Basically, setting up virtual accounts, new
customers, editing conf files and the like are taking quite a bit of
time. I was wondering if anyone knows of a good repository of scripts
that automate lots of these processes. Mainly, I'm looking for info on
automating DNS entries, loading up new clients, checking Radius logs,
and any other type of time-reducing scripts.
I'm mainly using Solaris 2.6 on several Sun machines but am running
Linux as my desktop platform. I like to try things out on Linux (RH
5.2) before migrating over to Solaris.
Thanks. Please email me directly too if you can.
KJ
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<HTML>
I'm looking for some handy scripts for managing DNS updates, parsing out
Radius logs, etc. Basically, setting up virtual accounts, new customers,
editing conf files and the like are taking quite a bit of time. I
was wondering if anyone knows of a good repository of scripts that automate
lots of these processes. Mainly, I'm looking for info on automating
DNS entries, loading up new clients, checking Radius logs, and any other
type of time-reducing scripts.
<BR>I'm mainly using Solaris 2.6 on several Sun machines but am running
Linux as my desktop platform. I like to try things out on Linux (RH
5.2) before migrating over to Solaris.
<BR>Thanks. Please email me directly too if you can.
<BR>KJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Subject: Re: SIOCADDRT Invalid argument
Date: 14 Apr 1999 08:28:42 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Nguyen-Dai Quy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>Just recompiled my kernel 2.0.36, I try boot with.
>But I see a error message :
>
>SIOCADDRT : Invalid argument
>
>What does it mean ?
It means the kernel didn't find your ethernet card.
Either you don't have the driver for it or there is a hardware problem.
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From: Rainer Dorsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q:] Office Jet Like Device for Linux
Date: 14 Apr 1999 20:57:27 +0200
Does anybody know, if there is an office jet like device compatible
with linux?
Thank you.
--
Rainer Dorsch
Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uni Stuttgart Tel.: 0711-7816-215
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: PPP problems dialing up
Date: 14 Apr 1999 10:49:30 -0700
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>>>>> "Eric" == Eric Marquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Eric> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Eric> --------------842C62ED0425AC8DA4C11656 Content-Type:
Eric> text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
First of all, turn off this damned MIME posting crap. Only text to
newsgroups.
Eric> Going by the PPP-HOWTO file I was able to test pppd with
Eric> minicom but after configuring the ppp-on, ppp-on-dialer,
Eric> ppp-off. When I issue the command pppd debug file
Eric> options.myserver /dev/ttyS1 115200\
>> ppp-on &
Eric> pppd: unrecognized optoin 'ppp-on'
Ppp-on is a script which dials and connects for you. You don't use it
as an option to pppd. You type `ppp-on' at the prompt or
`/etc/ppp/ppp-on' at the prompt. Then it sets some environmental
variables and uses ppp-on-dialer to actually handle the modem. When
the dialing part is complete, ppp-on then runs pppd.
mp
powered by GNU/linux since Sept 1997
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Would John the Baptist have lost his head if his name was Steve?"
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From: Jason Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HP CD-Writer on NT
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:14:45 -0800
Jim Ross wrote:
> Jason Bailey wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >At work I have an HP CD-Writer Plas 7200 series attached to an NT 4.0
> >server (service pack 4). I have been trying to use Adaptec Easy CD
> >Creator to copy some Linux files onto a CD. Problem is that Linux sees
> >all the files as MS-DOS 8.3 files. Anybody know a way around this with
> >out connecting the CD-RW to a Linux box?
> >
> >Any Light that can be shed would be extremely appreciated!
> >Jason
> >
> I'd like to make the distinction.
> Are you saying Easy CD doesn't see the long file names or
> are you saying that even in a Bash shell and X program don't see the
> long file names.
Easy CD creator sees them...I can see them on NT.
> Assuming Linux doesn't even see long file names then you need to mount your
> NT partition as either VFAT or NTFS to get long file name. It likely is
> mounted as msdos. I assume you're using Wine to run EasyCD is that right?
No...I am using an NT box at work to burn the CDs. I am then looking at the CDs
at home and all file names have been truncated. Unfortunately, I gave the disk
to a guy in my LUG before I knew of the problem. He is the one that reported it
to me.
> Are you using Redhat? If so cabaret is easy to unmount and remount your
> drive.
RedHat 5.2 is being used...but I know of no way to mount a CD-ROM as DOS
partition.
<snip>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josh ''RudeSka'' Rush)
Subject: Re: what's the best browser for linux?
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:11:48 -0800
there is always Mozilla, Jazilla, and Lynx!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul D. Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sgi.misc,gnu.utils.help
Subject: Re: smake to GNU make transition
Date: 14 Apr 1999 11:10:15 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%% Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> There are two chapters there of particular interest as you start out:
>> one listing features found in one or more other implementations of make
>> which don't exist in GNU make (often with suggestions for translation)
>> and another listing features found in GNU make that may or may not exist
>> in other versions of make.
tl> These chapters don't really exist, do they?
No, gotcha! I get my kicks by lying to people on USENET.
http://www.gnu.org/manual/make-3.77/html_chapter/make_12.html
http://www.gnu.org/manual/make-3.77/html_chapter/make_13.html
Sheesh.
tl> There is some information in the one about "Features of GNU make",
tl> but it's not too helpful.
"Not too helpful"? I count 45 separate bullet items in this chapter
alone, listing features of GNU make that some or all other makes don't
have, with hyperlink references to places in the GNU make manual where
you can find more details about each of them.
Pretty much every feature of GNU make not contained in POSIX.2 make is
listed here.
Just what exactly are you looking for, anyway?
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"Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Kernel freeze switching Netscape windows
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:38:37 -0400
Hi Kelsey,
> The problem is that sometimes, while using Netscape, the whole machine
> will seize up completely, leaving nothing to do but reboot. I know
I had similar symptoms, which I thought was either Netscape, or fvwm2,
or bad mouse support by X. It turned out to be none of these (see below).
> that the kernel itself has come to a grinding halt, because I am
> unable to log in remotely to my machine, and I have compiled in SysRq
> key support, but it doesn't work during one of these crashes. Right
Same here. Everything frozen. Kernel dead.
> now I suspect the window manager, since it happens while switching
> windows (as I'll describe in a second). I'm using FVWM2, through
> RedHat's AnotherLevel. I will eventually try setting up FVWM2 from
> scratch, but first I'd like to hear if anyone has any good ideas or
> has seen this before, as I don't particularly want to redo all of my
> configuration.
Well, let's do a little debugging, shall we? My problem only happened on
warm days. It turns out that my problem was excessive heat (and it didn't
take much of that). My motherboard is usually in the 30-34 Celsius range, but
my lockups were occurring in the range 38-42 Celsius. Sometimes 4 lockups in
a day, all around the same time, all during hot parts of the day. So, check that
it's not getting unusually hot in or around your computer. Ever since it's dropped
down to the 60s outside (lockups occurred when outside temp reached the 80s), I have
had no lockups. I am 99.9% convinced my problem is a heat problem.
You can try installing fvwm2.2 (www.fvwm.org) to see if this fixes your WM problems.
>
> The crash has occured doing various things, and I haven't been able to
> reproduce it on demand until now. These are the circumstances which
> duplicate the crash: I had two Netscape widows open in a single
> virtual desktop. In the back one, I was composing a post to Slashdot.
> In the front one, I started loading www.npr.org. Just as the NPR page
> started loading, I clicked on the top of the Slashdot window to bring
> it to the front, and it froze completely. The cursor froze as a solid
> circle, indicating it is in the process of bringing the window
Yes, that fvwm2 'solid circle'. Whenever I get that, I just click the mouse once,
and it goes back to normal. Is this where your lockup occurs?
> forward. The timing is important: I have to click the back window
> just as the page is beginning to load. Although I don't know the
> circumstances as specificly for previous crashes, it seems to me I was
> often doing somthing with the window manager: changing windows, or
> virtual desktops. This is why I suspect FVWM2, although maybe it is
> triggering an XFree86 bug or a hardware problem.
^^^^^^^^^^^
Try upgrading to XFree86 3.3.3.1. This may cure your problem, if it's an
X server-related one.
I don't know what else to suggest. I hope you can figure it out.
Good luck,
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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From: Michal Novotny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.lang.c,fr.comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: coredump wit free()
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:29:33 +0200
> > I am using a Toshiba Tecra 750 CDT laptop with Linux RedHat 5.2.
> > I get a COREDUMP after free() (not everytime).
> >
> > I'am sure that I have correctly allocated the memory with
> > a 'malloc' and not have already freed it before the call 'free()' !
> > (I am not a beginner in C...)
>=20
> Ah, bon. On pourrait le croire. Manifestement, tu es un d=E9buttant sur l=
e
> reseau ; sinon, tu saurais que dans les groupes fr.*, on parle
> fran=E7ais. Et si tu n'=E9tais pas un d=E9buttant en C, tu saurais que on
> n'est jamais 100% s=FBr d'avoir correctement g=E9r=E9 la m=E9moire, et qu=
e
> d'avoir =E9crit au del=E0 de la fin d'un bloc est la cause la plus fr=E9q=
uente
> de telles erreurs. (L'erreur classique ici, c'est d'allouer strlen
> octets =E0 la place de strlen+1.)
Sorry, I cannot speak French ! Could you post messages only in English ?
Thank you.
=09=09=09=09=09Michal Novotny
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From: Lasse Kliemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux email clients
Date: 14 Apr 1999 12:25:40 GMT
plendon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What are some good email clients available for Linux & Gnome?
I use mutt, which is AFAIK still alpha but does a very good job.
http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/
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From: Lasse Kliemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Problem with printing postscript
Date: 14 Apr 1999 11:54:19 GMT
Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all I was given the following script to print ps files on epson
> styles 640. However, when printing, th eprinter leaves too much space at
> the top of the page (too much margin) and chopps the bottom of the
> page. Does anyone know how I can fix that so that the entire page is
> pribted with normal margin?
> I have Aladdin Ghostscript 5.50
Try using '-sPAPERSIZE=a4'. For more info 'man gs'.
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From: Harry Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:00:02 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Powel wrote:
> Umm, linux is much easier to use than windows.
I think it depends what you're used to. My local PC World has a few Macs
(well, iMacs) on display and it's funny to see how puzzling everyone
finds them. Where are the applications? Where's My Computer? Where's the
Start button? It's utterly bewildering to me - I use Linux, PCs running
Windows, and Macintoshes virtually every day and Macs are the easiest to
use (also the flakiest, but that's another story).
Sad fact is, if you're used to it, it's easy.
Harry
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:33:46 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I still go back to this site occasionally, when I need reminding what
Bill Gates thinks of us all:
http://www.cantrip.org/nobugs.html
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From: Martin Ambuhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.lang.c,fr.comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: coredump wit free()
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:18:17 -0400
Michal Novotny wrote:
>
> > > I am using a Toshiba Tecra 750 CDT laptop with Linux RedHat 5.2.
> > > I get a COREDUMP after free() (not everytime).
> > >
> > > I'am sure that I have correctly allocated the memory with
> > > a 'malloc' and not have already freed it before the call 'free()' !
> > > (I am not a beginner in C...)
> >
> > Ah, bon. On pourrait le croire. Manifestement, tu es un d�buttant sur le
> > reseau ; sinon, tu saurais que dans les groupes fr.*, on parle
> > fran�ais. Et si tu n'�tais pas un d�buttant en C, tu saurais que on
> > n'est jamais 100% s�r d'avoir correctement g�r� la m�moire, et que
> > d'avoir �crit au del� de la fin d'un bloc est la cause la plus fr�quente
> > de telles erreurs. (L'erreur classique ici, c'est d'allouer strlen
> > octets � la place de strlen+1.)
>
> Sorry, I cannot speak French ! Could you post messages only in English ?
> Thank you.
One should never pass up a chance for babelfish-created humor. Unfortunately,
it does a reasonably good job on the above. The insistance that in fr.*
newsgroups is somewhat ironic here.
"Ah, good. One could believe it. Obviously, you are one d�buttant on the
network; if not, you would know that in groups france *, one speaks French.
**time-out** and if you be not one d�buttant in C, you know that one be never
100% sure to have correctly manage the memory, and that to have write beyond the
end of a block be the cause the more frequent of such error. (the traditional
error here, it is to allocate strlen bytes in the place of strlen+1.) "
Whether one can be "100% sure to have correctly managed memory" is a deep
epistemological issue. Anyone who exercises the normal care of a professional
programmer is as sure of this as you are that you actually are using a
computer.
>
> Michal Novotny
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