Linux-Misc Digest #846, Volume #25 Sat, 23 Sep 00 18:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: 2 SCSI cards in one machine (Robert Heller)
Persistent PPP connection? ("Micromans")
Re: Kernel 2.2.17 ( problem to get vfat support) (Josef Oswald)
linux quake2 trouble
help: external modem on redhat 6.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Implications ("paul snow")
Re: Persistent PPP connection? (Andrew Purugganan)
Red Hat 7.0 beta and Mitsumi scroll mouse (Thomas Cameron)
Re: question about dual boot setup, re: xcopy (Ivan Tichenor)
Re: Implications ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: linux quake2 trouble (Thomas Cameron)
Re: linux quake2 trouble (Thomas Cameron)
Re: linux quake2 trouble (Thomas Cameron)
Re: Netscape fonts ("David ..")
Re: Help--readonly nfs mounts (Thomas Cameron)
Re: Stop ip-up from running on ALL ppp (Bill Unruh)
Re: Persistent PPP connection? ("David ..")
Re: Linux & SCSI tools (Neil Cherry)
Re: [OT] Re: Will Linux go bankrupt? (YY Lee)
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 SCSI cards in one machine
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 20:17:09 -0000
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on 22 Sep 2000 14:00:26 -0400, wrote :
JK> Larry Irons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JK>
JK> > I have a Linux computer running Caldera OpenLinux 2.3. It has been
JK> > running fine for over a year with one Adaptec 2940 SCSI card with 5 SCSI
JK> > hard drives attached. We have added a 2nd Adaptec 2930 SCSI card with a
JK> > SCSI 8mm tape drive. At boot the BIOS for both drives is recognized as
JK> > well as all of the devices. One Hard drive SCSI card is on irq 11 and
JK> > the tape SCSI card is on irq 5. There are no device conflicts for irqs.
JK> > There are no device conflicts for i/o ports.
JK> >
JK> > Linux does not see the 2nd SCSI controller, but it sees the first one. I
JK> > do a "dmesg" and there is no mention of the second controller.
JK>
JK> > There are no additional LILO boot parms for the Adaptec aic78xx driver
JK> > regarding irqs and i/o ports. Currently the SCSI driver for the
JK> > controller is being loaded as a module. Is there anything that I can do
JK> > to get the 2nd controller to be recognized by the kernel?
JK>
JK> hmm. i am using a pair of symbios 8715sp (sym53c875) pci scsi cards
JK> in one of my boxen. irq sharing is not a problem. they're both using
JK> irq 15. the kernel seems to find both of them without problems. i
JK> have the driver built-in to the kernel. i do not pass any options to
JK> the scsi system either.
JK>
JK> you might try asking on the linux-scsi or linux-kernel mailling lists.
And we have a system with two 2940's (a 2940W and a 2940UA). The system
has no trouble with them. What do you see in /proc/pci ?
JK>
JK> --
JK> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
JK> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
JK> sysengr
JK>
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From: "Micromans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Persistent PPP connection?
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:27:20 -0700
I use PPP to connect to my dial-up ISP via Linux Redhat 6.0. Works great
while connected, but disconnects often, (randomly, about once every 15
minutes or so).
Besides putting ppp-on into a crontab how can I get PPP to either maintain
the connection or else have it reconnect automatically whenever the line
drops?
Micromans
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From: Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.17 ( problem to get vfat support)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 20:56:28 GMT
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I found out that my version of the gcc compiler was _too_ old to do
> : the job.... Had a hard time getting the compiler to work so right now
>
> There is no such thing as too old. I use gcc 2.7.2 for almost all work.
> It certainly compiles kernels fine (disclaimer, I don't know about the
> 2.4.0test series ... but it probably works fine there too. I'll vouch
> for it up to about 2.2.15)
Hi :-)
Yes 2..2.15 is okay, but my troubles started with 2.2.17 :-( the Read-me
for the test series said something about gcc 2.95.
thanks :-)
>
> Peter
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Strange it works but we don't know why: it's Windows it does not have
bugs
only features....
the lie of the 20th. century..... will it continue in the third
Millennium?
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux quake2 trouble
Date: 23 Sep 2000 20:59:14 GMT
I'm running redhat 6.2 and having trouble with quake2 for X.
I've installed the quake2 rpm for linux and copied all the required
files over from my commercial quake 2 cd. Basic quake2 runs fine
but I cant run any mods without hitting the same error: upon typing
cd /usr/local/games/quake2
./quake2 +set game rogue (or xatrix or devq2)
things start up fine. The demo runs, yada yada, but when I try to
start playing it bails out with
==== ShutdownGame ====
recursive shutdown
Error: VID: Could not open display [unix]
I tried changing my DISPLAY variable to :0, ablair:0, localhost:0.
It appears to recognize this variable, but it just returns the error
Error: VID: Could not open display [ablair]
or whatever (ablair is my host name). To even get this far I have to run
it as root.
Any suggestions?
Thanx,
Art.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: help: external modem on redhat 6.1
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 21:03:22 GMT
I'm running redhat linux 6.1 and I have an external us robotics
sportster 56k modem. I have it installed on /dev/ttyS0 and had gotten
it to dial out using kermit 7.0 but now I cannot seem to contact the
modem. I've tried setserial, minicom -s, and linuxconf but I can't
seem to get it going. I don't want to use the gnome to set it up.
Thanks in advance.
Leo
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Before you buy.
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From: "paul snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 21:13:48 GMT
> Do you have a clue? *I* don't know how much IT companies invest in
> various areas, and I don't know where you get your numbers from.
"Recent industry studies confirm that capital expenses, including hardware,
software, communications, and maintenance comprise less than 1/3 of the
5-year cost of ownership of information systems. Server costs are less than
10% of the total cost of system ownership, with disk storage accounting for
the greatest portion of large server costs. The largest category of costs is
IT labor, which rises incrementally each year as the cost of hardware
diminishes. Tasks such as system management, problem management, network
management, configuration management, storage management, operations
management, resource management, and software installation management
comprise the most costly aspects of acquiring, installing, and operating
production systems in an extended enterprise."
http://www.rs6000.ibm.com/resource/consult/enabling/sp_v2250.html
"The first authoritative report on the subject was issued by the US based
Gartner Group in February 1996, and has been followed by many others.
Gartner estimated the TCO of a PC in a US corporation to be between $8,000
and $12,000 per annum, of which only $6,000 is budgeted. The largest
component of this cost, about 46% according to the Gartner Group's model, is
that of end user operations i.e., applications development, casual learning,
file management, peer support and time wasted playing with configuration and
optional settings on the system. Capital costs (purchase, rental or lease of
hardware, software and infrastructure) comprised only 21%.
http://www.rm.com/further/tco/
There is plenty more. Search for Total Cost of Ownership (TOC). 75% may be
on the low side, but consistent with most of the research. And it is
consistent with my own, rather lengthy experience in this area.
So, the observation is that these efforts (which cost all this money and
effort) all amount to the task of taking a set of software X which defines
what can be installed on a set of computers, and applying different
expressions of X on each computer in an enterprise. Furthermore, the
networks and distributed nature of the problem requires that X be expressed
on each computer within the context of each computer's role in the
enterprise.
Figuring out better ways to do this with Linux really amounts to designing a
Linux form of Microsoft's .Net effort. Is this worth while? I would think
so, if Linux is to be competitive.
Paul Snow
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Persistent PPP connection?
Date: 23 Sep 2000 21:09:46 GMT
Micromans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ I use PPP to connect to my dial-up ISP via Linux Redhat 6.0. Works great
[ while connected, but disconnects often, (randomly, about once every 15
[ minutes or so).
[ Besides putting ppp-on into a crontab how can I get PPP to either maintain
[ the connection or else have it reconnect automatically whenever the line
[ drops?
man diald & diald-examples
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Red Hat 7.0 beta and Mitsumi scroll mouse
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:26:45 -0500
Howdy -
Well, I'm stumped. I have a cheap Mitsumi ps/2 scroll mouse (it's
really a button rather than a scrolling wheel) which worked perfectly
under Red Hat 6.0, 6.1, and 6.2.
Under Red Hat 6.9 (Pinstripe), if I set it up as anything other than a
2-button ps/2 mouse without 3-button emulation, it jumps to the upper
right corner of the screen as soon as I move it under X.
Any ideas?
Thomas
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From: Ivan Tichenor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question about dual boot setup, re: xcopy
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 21:30:06 -0000
No you won't be able to use xcopy, MSDOS will not even see the Linux
partition, I would wait untill you get the new ahrd drive, or Install it
twice.
Apostata wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm interested in installing Linux on my Win98 system (dual boot).
> However, I'm also planning to upgrade my hard drive soon.
> Is it possible to "xcopy" everything (Windows & Linux) from one HD to
> another, or will it be more complicated than that?
>
> I've never used Linux before, so please take this into account :)
>
> P.S. I'm leaning towards Mandrake 7.1
>
> --
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:27:17 -0500
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, paul snow quoth:
[ big snip ]
ps> Adding software to my software library is a literal form of computer sex.
Ehhh, unhuh.
ps> So all along, our computers have been using us to spread their genetic
ps> material, like bees.
Yes, we are caught in the Matrix, sure.
ps> We are also their agents for developing new genetic material, and we are the
ps> environmental agents that supply the developmental pressures that drive some
ps> genetic material to extinction, while other material (like Linux perhaps?)
ps> flourishes.
Ah, I knew when I did a ':/Linux' I would come up with something! Unfortunately
you could have just as easily said FreeBSD.
ps> And most of the alternatives to Linux require people pay for their
ps> software...
Same here. I suppose in your next post, you are going to go back on
the XML rant again, right? Entirely irrelevant, bye. F'ups set.
anm
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From: Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux quake2 trouble
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:29:56 -0500
Have you tried to run xhost + localhost from the command line? In order
for a client process to display on the X server, you have to tell the
server what hosts are allowed. I've run into RH6.x being weird about that,
so give it a try.
Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm running redhat 6.2 and having trouble with quake2 for X.
> I've installed the quake2 rpm for linux and copied all the required
> files over from my commercial quake 2 cd. Basic quake2 runs fine
> but I cant run any mods without hitting the same error: upon typing
>
> cd /usr/local/games/quake2
> ./quake2 +set game rogue (or xatrix or devq2)
>
> things start up fine. The demo runs, yada yada, but when I try to
> start playing it bails out with
>
> ==== ShutdownGame ====
> recursive shutdown
> Error: VID: Could not open display [unix]
>
> I tried changing my DISPLAY variable to :0, ablair:0, localhost:0.
> It appears to recognize this variable, but it just returns the error
> Error: VID: Could not open display [ablair]
>
> or whatever (ablair is my host name). To even get this far I have to run
> it as root.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanx,
> Art.
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From: Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux quake2 trouble
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:30:00 -0500
Have you tried to run xhost + localhost from the command line? In order
for a client process to display on the X server, you have to tell the
server what hosts are allowed. I've run into RH6.x being weird about that,
so give it a try.
Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm running redhat 6.2 and having trouble with quake2 for X.
> I've installed the quake2 rpm for linux and copied all the required
> files over from my commercial quake 2 cd. Basic quake2 runs fine
> but I cant run any mods without hitting the same error: upon typing
>
> cd /usr/local/games/quake2
> ./quake2 +set game rogue (or xatrix or devq2)
>
> things start up fine. The demo runs, yada yada, but when I try to
> start playing it bails out with
>
> ==== ShutdownGame ====
> recursive shutdown
> Error: VID: Could not open display [unix]
>
> I tried changing my DISPLAY variable to :0, ablair:0, localhost:0.
> It appears to recognize this variable, but it just returns the error
> Error: VID: Could not open display [ablair]
>
> or whatever (ablair is my host name). To even get this far I have to run
> it as root.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanx,
> Art.
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From: Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux quake2 trouble
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:30:14 -0500
Have you tried to run xhost + localhost from the command line? In order
for a client process to display on the X server, you have to tell the
server what hosts are allowed. I've run into RH6.x being weird about that,
so give it a try.
Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm running redhat 6.2 and having trouble with quake2 for X.
> I've installed the quake2 rpm for linux and copied all the required
> files over from my commercial quake 2 cd. Basic quake2 runs fine
> but I cant run any mods without hitting the same error: upon typing
>
> cd /usr/local/games/quake2
> ./quake2 +set game rogue (or xatrix or devq2)
>
> things start up fine. The demo runs, yada yada, but when I try to
> start playing it bails out with
>
> ==== ShutdownGame ====
> recursive shutdown
> Error: VID: Could not open display [unix]
>
> I tried changing my DISPLAY variable to :0, ablair:0, localhost:0.
> It appears to recognize this variable, but it just returns the error
> Error: VID: Could not open display [ablair]
>
> or whatever (ablair is my host name). To even get this far I have to run
> it as root.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanx,
> Art.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.X
Subject: Re: Netscape fonts
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:41:34 -0500
Gregory Propf wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me if there is a quick fix to the crappy fonts in Linux
> Netscape? Is there a particular set of fonts I can download from
> somewhere that can fix this? What I'm talking about is the way certain
> web pages come up with either VERY tiny fonts or fonts that are
> obviously the wrong size and shape from what the webpage designer
> intended. I'm running RedHat 6.2 and Netscape 4.72. TIA
http://people.redhat.com/~scoile/fonts/fixing-1.html
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From: Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help--readonly nfs mounts
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:48:46 -0500
Bob Terrell wrote:
> I've got a RH 6.2 nfs server and both linux and solaris
> clients. Everything works except the files are read only.
> Things are specified (rw) in /etc/exports, and
> exportfs -v shows that the server thinks it has
> exported things rw. The clients' /etc/fstab asks for them
> with rsize and wsize specified. Still I just get (ro).
> The HOWTO mentions this, but I don't see where it says
> how to fix it.
>
> Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>
> Bob
Can you send /etc/exports and /etc/fstab, please?
______________________________________________________________
Thomas Cameron
Red Hat Certified Engineer TurboLinux Certified Trainer
Certified NetWare Engineer Microsoft Certified Trainer
General IT Wizard
______________________________________________________________
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Stop ip-up from running on ALL ppp
Date: 23 Sep 2000 21:51:15 GMT
In <8qif9u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan) writes:
]I have configured one ppp for internet dialup, and another to connect my
]handheld PC-laptop-wannabe to my linux box. I can only connect if I start
]with one and not the other. I have dynamic ip addresses with my ISP, and
]ip-up scripts that send this IP address out there etc.
ip-up gets 6 input parameters.
interface-name tty-device speed local-IP-address
remote-IP-address ipparam
ipparam is a parameter you can send with the ipparam option to pppd.
Anyway one of those six is almost sure to be different between the
various connections. Use it.
]I don't need to run those scripts though when I want to connect to my
]H/PC. Is there a way to detect or recognize a local-ppp-lan and keep it
]from running the ISP-related script?
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Persistent PPP connection?
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:51:33 -0500
Micromans wrote:
>
> I use PPP to connect to my dial-up ISP via Linux Redhat 6.0. Works great
> while connected, but disconnects often, (randomly, about once every 15
> minutes or so).
>
> Besides putting ppp-on into a crontab how can I get PPP to either maintain
> the connection or else have it reconnect automatically whenever the line
> drops?
>
> Micromans
You can do it by adding the two lines below to
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0 just below the "ONBOOT="
line. The HOLDOFF= line can be changed depending on the ISP.
PERSIST=yes
HOLDOFF=70 # seconds to wait
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Subject: Re: Linux & SCSI tools
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 21:57:44 GMT
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 03:10:04 GMT, Stuart R. Fuller wrote:
>Neil Cherry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: I have 2 Seagate drives and they are acting up on me. The first gets
>: errors when reading or writting. I honestly think it's shot (barely
>: used too!). The other is a 9G SCSI2 drive, I keep getting:
>:
>: kernel: Vendor: SEAGATE Model: SX910800N Rev: 8513
>: kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
>: kernel: Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
>: kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
>: kernel: sda : status = 1, message = 00, host = 0, driver = 28
>: kernel: sda : extended sense code = 3
>: kernel: sda : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB.
>: kernel: sda:scsi0: MEDIUM ERROR on channel 0, id 5, lun 0, CDB: Read
>: (6) 00 00 00 02 00
>: kernel: [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Current sd08:00: sense key Medium Error
>: kernel: Additional sense indicates Medium format corrupted
>: kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0
>: kernel: unable to read partition table
>:
>: This looks like it was dead from the start or I need to do a low level
>: format. Any idea how I can attempt such a thing? Are there any
>: addition SCSI tools for Linux?
>
>Despite people's concerns about cables and termination, the problem is
>indicated in your message: MEDIUM ERROR and Medium format corrupted.
>
>Did you just buy those drives from onsale.com or something? They look like
>the pair that I bought. The instructions accompanying the drives said that
>they'll need to be formatted, which is what I did.
>
>Check your system to see if you have a "scsifmt" package or program. I
>didn't, but downloaded one from a Redhat contrib mirror.
Thanks Stu, that's what I was looking for! I tried to get a Winders PC
to format the drive but it wouldn't recognize the SCSI controller
(@#$%!) and tried a MAC (trouble with jumpers). I will finially find
out if it's dead (can't low level) or if I now have 9G extra space.
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From: YY Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Will Linux go bankrupt?
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 21:58:53 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Anders Gulden Olstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > YY Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Will Linux go bankrupt? That ain't gonna happen. Linux distro companies
> >> can seize and desist but not Linus.
>
> > His code may be immortal, but not Linus himself.
>
> True, but that doesn't mean that someone else can't eventually fill his
> boots, does it?
>
> Linux could quite easily evolve, grow and continue for the next 100 years.
>
Linux could quite easily evolve, grow and continue for the next 100 years while
Microsoft might disappear in earth but would try to migrate to Mars... :-(
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