Linux-Misc Digest #846, Volume #23 Tue, 14 Mar 00 12:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: LILO probs (Leonard Evens)
Re: Mp3 Player for Car (Jay E. Morris)
JOB: London - Linux sysadmin needed for e-commerce company ("Ed Davey")
Sound problems with EsounD (Viktor Haag)
Re: Caldera Going Public, IPO Date??? (Ron)
Re: Toshiba 1605CDS ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: wrong major or minor device number ("Garen Erdoisa")
web programming for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
spreadsheet (Martijn Brouwer)
Re: Motherboard Configuration (mregan)
Re: Question 3 -- Install program/patch (Dances With Crows)
Re: load balancing? multiple eth cards to same network... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Question one -- a friendly editor (Luke)
Re: Question 3 -- Install program/patch (Luke)
Re: setting up a LAN: wondering about file sharing (Luke)
Re: Free shell accounts (Luke)
Re: Mandrake 7.0 kernel source (aflinsch)
Re: web programming for Linux (Luke)
Re: Suggestions for SMP motherboard... (John Hasler)
Re: Suggestions for SMP motherboard... (John Hasler)
Re: using gcc to compile (Paul Kimoto)
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LILO probs
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:44:43 -0600
Tom Santos wrote:
>
> I have an installation of Linux 6.1 on device /dev/sdb. The LILO that I was
> using was on /dev/sda. I managed to nuke /dev/sda's MBR (where I was
> keeping LILO). Now, I don't have a way to boot my computer into Linux.
> I've tried installing Linux on /dev/sda to get LILO back on that drive but I
> can't configure LILO to boot from /dev/sdb.
>
> After some mucking with the /etc/lilo.conf file, I managed to get an error
> that said "First sector of /dev/sbd1 doesn't have a valid boot signature"
> but I'm afraid that whole approach is a rat-hole.
>
> I've looked at every howto and mini-howto that I could find but they just
> don't seem to address this situation.
>
> Any suggestions on how to fix my problem are appreciated. :-)
>
> Tom Santos
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not sure exactly what happened to your system, but it sounds
basically like a lilo installation problem. First, unless you
use another boot loader, you need to put the lilo boot loader
somewhere on the first disk. The boot sequence starts with
the master boot record of the first disk, and what is found
there must tell it what to do next. The usual
choice is to put the lilo boot loader in the master boot
record of the first disk, but you can also place it in
any primary linux partition on the first disk if you have
such. You can also put it in an extended partition on the
first disk. You can't normally put it in a logical partition.
But you may have also messed up the MBR on the first disk somehow.
If you have a DOS/Windows boot floppy, you can boot from it and
run
fdisk/mbr
That should fix the MBR.
If you want ultimately to run Linux from the second disk, you
should do your lilo configuration from it. You can do this
several ways. One would be to boot from your installation
media and at the boot prompt put
vmlinuz root=/dev/sdbX
where X is the number of the root partition on your second disk.
(Not the boot partition if that is separate). After this is booted,
you can rerun lilo. Your /etc/lilo.conf file should look
something like the following if we assume /dev/sdb1 is your root
partition
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
label=linux
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
read-only
root=/dev/sdb1
Since you have a SCSI disk, you need the initrd statement, and
the file taken as argument should exist. If it doesn't you will
have to create it with mkinitrd.
If you can't boot this way, and you've managed to install Linux
on the first drive, you can also boot from that Linux and
then proceed roughly as follows. Make a mount point for
the root partition on the second disk, say
mkdir /b
mount /dev/sdb1 /b
(where again I assume sdb1 is your root partition on the second
disk). Then make a lilo configuration file, say it is
/b/etc/lilo.conf.alt
so it actually resides on the second disk.
You should also probably put in a second entry like
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
label=linux_first
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
read-only
root=/dev/sda1
where I assume the root partition on the first disk is
/dev/sda1. (Then you will have the choice of booting either.)
Then run the following command from your first drive system
/sbin/lilo -r /b -C /etc/lilo.conf.alt
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay E. Morris)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Mp3 Player for Car
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:25:21 GMT
Thought you might be interested to know Maximum PC did an article on a
car mp3 player, but I don't know if it answers your question.
http://www.maximumpc.com/route66/howto1_3.html
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:39:12 GMT, Brian Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>does anyone good with electronics know of a good circuit, or something I can buy
>(cheap) that will allow me to signal my system (probably through a serial port I
>guess?) if a voltage level drops too low? this would be nice to shut down my
>system before it got too low to be a problem, and also to put an earlier-warning
>battery light in my dash...
>Thanks
>-Brian
>
--
Jay E. Morris' <*> Web Sites Design
Epsilon 3 Productions <*> and hosting
http://www.epsilon3.com <*> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ed Davey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: JOB: London - Linux sysadmin needed for e-commerce company
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:11:38 -0000
Excuse the intrusion, but a friend suggested I try you guys out, as part of
my quest to find the right staff for my company.
Cloudband is an e-commerce company operating in a segment of the art market.
We happen to be committed to open-source solutions (mod_perl, Postgres,
Linux etc), and are looking for like-minded individuals for both development
and sysadmin positions.
If you might be interested, do get in touch.
Thanks,
ED
+44 171 691 2307
http://www.cloudband.com/
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Sound problems with EsounD
From: Viktor Haag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 14 Mar 2000 11:09:04 -0500
My box has a vanilla Vibra16 CL Soundblaster installed, which
worked just fine under KDE.
Now I've "upgraded" by starting to use Englightenment only, no
desktop environment, and am trying to get EsounD to work.
Is there some way I can "test" it to see if it *is* working?
I notice that, when I start up Enlightenment, I don't get the
"welcome to Enlightenment" voice, or any bleeps (which I
understood were standard).
I also notice that, now I've installed RealPlayer-7 I can't for
the life of me coax it to work properly: it plays the silly
bonging welcome message fine, but although it receives a signal
from a radio station I attach to, I hear nothing through my
speakers!
Most frustrating.
My system config is Mandrake 7.0 with
enlightenment-0.16.3-4mdk.i586.rpm
esound-0.2.17-1mdk.i586.rpm
and
RealPlayer-7_0-1_i386_rpm
I used Lothar to reconfigure my soundcard, with no problems.
(One more odd thing -- if I open eMusic, it plays an inserted
music CD just fine, but still no joy out of RealPlayer...)
Anyone else run into anything similar?
--
Viktor Haag Senior Technical Writer, RIM
"Well, after she impaled me with a twobyfour, things changed alot."
My opinions are my own, only.
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From: Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Caldera Going Public, IPO Date???
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:51:13 -0500
Adam Mansfield wrote:
>
> Does anybody know when Caldera is going public?
> There's some information at
> http://www.redherring.com/ipo/2000/0310/ipo-critic031000.html?id=yahoo
> And their symbol is CALD. But the volume and price are both still 0, so
>
> they haven't begun trading yet.
> Any info???
According to cnet.com news, NEXT week, "Caldera is expected to price
Thursday and begin trading Friday under the ticker 'CALD.'" This means
Thursday, March 23. See
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-1570085.html
Ron from Michigan
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Toshiba 1605CDS
Date: 14 Mar 2000 16:10:45 GMT
Goofy root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I called Toshiba and inquired what kind of modem they have within their
: latest laptops, e.g., 1605CDS, 2100CDS, etc. I was told it's WinModem,
I have a toshiba portege 7020. It has a lucent winmodem. Works "fine"
inasmuch as such a thing can, using the lucent drivers. Amusingly, it's
also a sound card.
: never been tested with Linux, neither guaranteed to work with NT. Yes
: there may be Linux support for Winmodem, but I'll not consider getting
: anything with WinModem. It's too much headache.
Peter
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From: "Garen Erdoisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wrong major or minor device number
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:18:27 -0700
I've never seen this error before, however the device major numbers and
minor numbers are set by the kernel, you can view active devices recognized
by the kernel as follows:
cat /proc/devices
The numbers listed there are all the device major numbers listed along with
the device type.
For disk drives, the device minor numbers are the partition number on that
device.
You can use the 'mknod' command to setup a special device file that will
inform the kernel which device major/minor to use.
For example:
mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1
Will create a special block device file (for disk drive access) using device
major 3 (IDE0 master) and partition 1 on that device. Once the file is
created, you can then mount the device. The names can be arbitrary, however
a lot of software has come to expect certain names by default as being
assoiciated with particular devices, so be aware of this if you start
messing around with the naming conventions.
A quick examination of /proc/devices and some knowledge of how the device
major numbers are managed can help you work around any bugs you may have
installed with your patch at least for a short term fix. I would look over
the patch you applied and see where it messed things up for the vfat
filesystem in the kernel.
Other device types that can be made using mknod besides block devices, are
character devices, named pipes, and unbuffered character devices.
UUNet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:38ce4de6$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I have just rebuilt 2.2.14 with the ide patch (for HPT366 support). After
> installing the new kernel and rebooting, mount gives the error 'hda<n> has
> wrong
> major...' for all my vfat partitions. It has no problem with any of the
> linux partitions. I've seen this error posted before but never have seen
a
> response to it (that made sense). I've checked (and also rerun
MAKEDEV.ide)
> the devices. I don't understand how its possible for a device to have the
> wrong numbers, unless they have changed.
>
> This problem also showed up a few weeks ago when I first tried to mount my
> ide ZIP and LS-120 drives. I ended up re-installing Linux...
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Bender
> Sr. Software Engineer
> Datria Systems, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: web programming for Linux
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:06:24 GMT
Hi what is a good web site to see specs(like what javascript and jdk) on
the netscape browser? Thanks Matt
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: spreadsheet
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 00 16:24:51 GMT
Hi,
Last year I have been moving to Linux, but I am still looking for a good
spreadsheet. Since I have a 486, choices are limited: KOffice, StarOffice,
Gnumeric and Applixware are too heavy. Searching freshmeat and linuxapps I
found three candidates:
- Oleo
- Siag
- Abacus
Is there anybody who uses one of these packages and can give me some
additional information. The following topics are important to me:
- system requirements (486 100 Mhz; 24 Mb)
- extensive function library and graphs functionality (I am a physics student)
- ability to read / write MS excel files
Thanks,
__________________________________________________
Martijn Brouwer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:46:19 -0700
From: mregan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Motherboard Configuration
> I want to built my own PC. I am not sure what are the features we
> should look in motherboard for Server. In market motherboard ranges from
> $80 to $500 which support Pentium III 500 Mhz/133Mhz.
>
> I will be hosting a Website/Nameserver/MailServer.
>
It really depends on the load on your website. The Nameserver and Mailserver
are relatively light loads.
We use AMD processors for our servers, but they only handle small intranets.
I built one Pentium II server using the Aopen AX6B+ MB, and was quite
pleased with the results. It will also support the Pentium III. The board
costs about $300.00 Cdn - about $200US
Look for memory slots. We have found that memory is as important and in some
cases, more important than processor speed.
--
Michael Regan
Black Cat Computer Systems
PO Box 46
Erickson, BC
V0B 1K0
http://www.bccs-ca.com
Phone 250.428.8442
FAX 250.428.7863
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Question 3 -- Install program/patch
Date: 14 Mar 2000 11:29:01 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:45:03 -0800, jygjyg
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Maybe the answer can be find in kernel-howto but I still want to
>know the simple answer: do we need to rebuild the kernel
>everytime when we install a program or a patch?
WHAT? Lord, that sounds absolutely awful. How did you ever come up with
that idea? The answer is NO, unless you have patched the kernel source or
the program you installed requires some new functionality from the kernel.
Very few programs require that.
>Example, Linux supprot netware client and it is ncpfs.rpm or
>ncpfs.tgz. For ncpfs.rpm, it is simple, we can use "rpm -i" to
>install it. After the installation, is there any change about
>the kernel? For ncpfs.tgz, we must upzip it, make...(I tried,
>but I failued). What is the difference between those two
>installation?
rpm -Uvh ncpfs.rpm
tar xvzf ncpfs.tgz ; cd ncpfs ; ./configure ; make ; make install
One requires slightly more typing and time on your part, but it compiles
the program directly from source and can tune the machine code it produces
to be more efficient for your particular machine. The other requires less
typing and time, and it keeps an RPM database--a record of what exactly is
installed on your machine. That sounds good, but RPM tends to choke if,
say, the package you want to install requires glibc 2.1 and you upgraded
to glibc2.1 by compiling it from source instead of getting the glibc2.1
.rpm. If that didn't make any sense, it will....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: load balancing? multiple eth cards to same network...
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:20:36 GMT
If you find anything, I'm also researching this.
Thanks.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for responding... I just had one or two questions...
>
> Kar Gay Lim wrote:
>
> > John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I remember hearing from a friend a year or two ago that I could
install
> > > multiple modems in my computer, and dial them simultaneously
(using
> > > separate phone lines of course) and be able to use them all, using
some
> > > kind of software to handle load balancing.
> >
> > That's EQL.
>
> Is this a software package or a standard? I can't find anything about
this on
> search engines/ linux sites / etc. Would you mind being more specific?
>
> > > Right now I have 2 10bT (Ethernet) connections to a LAN running
into my
> > > room. Of course, being the greedy S.O.B. I am :-) , I would like
to be
> > > able to hook both of them into my machine, and perhaps be able to
get a
> > > total possible 20bT in one direction.
> >
> > You would better off with a 100bT. Any greedy S.O.B. should be able
> > to upgrade to a 100bT system.
>
> Yes, my cards are 10/100 cards, but unfortunately the switch I connect
to is
> 10bT/Fibre. So, that equipment is out of my control. (I can obviously
get
> higher than 10Mbps total bandwith).
>
> Thanks for any help you can provide...
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
>
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Before you buy.
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From: Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question one -- a friendly editor
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:31:30 GMT
That would rock! Go for it. Right now I'm using joe, which is easier
than Vi, but, it is still a pain in the ass to push <ctrl>e to go to the
end or <ctrl>+K+d+enter to save.... acht...
For the other guy's question... joe and jed are farily easy (compared to
vi, and emacs).
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:14:13 -0800, jygjyg wrote:
> >Question 1: Is there a good/friendly editor whick is like edit
> >in DOS? I tried VI and XEmacs, but they have absolutely style.
>
> I like yourself would like something that works in a terminal
> window and allows SHIFT+ARROWKEYS marks text and SHIFT+INSERT
> copies it (without cutting it), and so on, just like the dos
> Edit program. I'm seriously thinking of editing the code of
> Pico to allow for these functions. When I've done that and
> spoken to the authres about it I'll no doubt post an
> announcement in this group telling of it's functions and
> where it is.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
>
> web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
>
> or http://start.at/zero-pps
>
> 2:10pm up 1 day, 48 min, 4 users, load average: 1.09, 1.12, 1.09
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From: Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question 3 -- Install program/patch
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:33:27 GMT
In general, you don't need to recompile the kernel any more. Most everything is
modular these days. You make a module (output to object code (.o)) and then you
tell the kernel to load it with a tool like modprobe.
> Question 3: how to install a program or a patch in Linux?
>
> Maybe the answer can be find in kernel-howto but I still want to
> know the simple answer: do we need to rebuild the kernel
> everytime when we install a program or a patch?
>
> Example, Linux supprot netware client and it is ncpfs.rpm or
> ncpfs.tgz. For ncpfs.rpm, it is simple, we can use "rpm -i" to
> install it. After the installation, is there any change about
> the kernel? For ncpfs.tgz, we must upzip it, make...(I tried,
> but I failued). What is the difference between those two
> installation?
>
> * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network *
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From: Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setting up a LAN: wondering about file sharing
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:35:42 GMT
> "Christopher D Mays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> >What I am wondering is what I need to do so that the individual boxes
> >in the network (all running win/98) can access each other's files. I am
>
> [...]
>
> You want to setup SAMBA on the Linux box.
You need samba if the win98 clients need to put, get files from the linx
server from their network neighborhood program. To share files and printers
among the win98 boxes, if they're all in the same hub, just enable file and
print sharing and make sure they're on the same workgroup.
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From: Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Free shell accounts
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:37:50 GMT
Wanna learn to crack, eh?
> I need some adresses of free shell account servers.
> Do you know any?
>
> --
> Adam Frankowski
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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.0 kernel source
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:36:02 -0600
wayne wrote:
>
> The standard installation of Mandrake 7.0 does not install the kernel
> source, at least not in the usual location /usr/src/linux.
> In trying to do the make in bttv, it complains of no way to make
> Rules.make, which is part of the kernel source, at least under SuSE6.3.
> Installing the kernel rpm from the sources CD #2 of Mandrake 7.0, the
> directory /usr/src/linux is nearly empty (has include, but not much
> else). Anyone been able to find the darn kernel source in this
> distribution???
>
> Wayne
I installed mandrake 7.0 from a cd I picked up at LinuxWorld Expo, and
the kernel source is just where you would expect it to be. I did an
Expert/Customized type of install. Is it possible that you may have
chosen one of the optional installation types? Perhaps something that
did not include the kernel source as part of it's base?
You can just install the kernel source from the installation cd. Just
mount your cd and it will be in
/path_to_where_you_mounted_the_cd/Mandrake/RPMS
then just do an rpm -ihv on the rpm from there.
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From: Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: web programming for Linux
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:47:37 GMT
Java doesn't really have much to do with Linux, or any operating system, for
that matter. Furthermore, javascript has nothing to do with java... it is
netscapes little toy they named JAVAscript to capatalize on the java rage at
the timee...
If you're looking for some java help, tutorials, apis, sdks, etc... go to
java.sun.com and you'll find everything there. Also check out the
comp-programming-java newsgroups.
> Hi what is a good web site to see specs(like what javascript and jdk) on
> the netscape browser? Thanks Matt
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for SMP motherboard...
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:53:05 GMT
Chuan-kai Lin writes:
> Sorry, wrong answer :) The only chipset that supports dual Pentiums is
> the Intel 440HX, which unfortunately does not support SDRAM.
My Tyan S1837UANG is chugging along just fine with an Intel 440GX chipset,
two 500 Mhz Pentium III's, and 384MB of SDRAM.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for SMP motherboard...
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:57:31 GMT
Chuan-kai Lin write:
> Intel 440GX is for Pentium-II and Pentium-III Xeon systems, and the same
> goes for the S2DGU motherboard.
And thus is a chipset other than the HX which supports dual Pentiums, which
you claimed does not exist. If you meant your remark to apply to only one
type of Pentium you should have said so.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: using gcc to compile
Date: 14 Mar 2000 12:09:17 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8ahdbm$pt5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1. How does one install the kernel headers? Will installing the kernel
> headers create a symbolic link as described below?
Go to whatever medium you used to get your distribution's packages.
Find the one called something like "kernel_headers". Install it
using your distribution's package installer. (Note: ignore this for
distributions like Debian that already include the kernel-header files
in the libc development package.)
> 2. How can you tell gcc to look in a different include path? (i.e. the
> path to the file specified inside the <> )
Use the flag "-I/path/to/include/directory". See the gcc info node called
"Options for Directory Search".
> Would re-installing gcc help at all?
Probably not, unless you messed with the standard installation scheme.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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