Linux-Misc Digest #852, Volume #19 Thu, 15 Apr 99 07:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: GLIB 1.2.1 install (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Win 98 Killed lilo - can't start Linux (Armando Ortiz)
Cyrillic setup (Arcady Genkin)
Re: Kernel Compile Error (Paul Kimoto)
Re: rcp large file crashes network! (Paul Kimoto)
Re: what's the best browser for linux? (Armando Ortiz)
PCMCIA card not being recognized (Ilya)
CANT GET PCMCIA services setup on Linux (Ilya)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Michael Powe)
Re: Linux Database for commercial project (Armando Ortiz)
Re: Linux is dead (Harry Lewis)
Report: NT 3.5x Faster Than Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SIOCSI.... (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Patte)
Re: Linux is dead (John Thompson)
Re: Where to provide a driver? (Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (Bill Anderson)
Re: Kernel w/ SMP (help) (Eric Sandall)
Re: 3com / US robotics 56K (Armando Ortiz)
re: Virtual Host Query (Kurt)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: GLIB 1.2.1 install
Date: 15 Apr 1999 00:36:39 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Donovan wrote:
> I've been trying to install glib 1.2.1 and gtk+ 1.2.1 so that I can learn
> to program gtk based apps. I have run the configure, make, and make install
> (as root) for glib. This reports that glib as been install. When I run the
> gtk configure script it runs fine up until it checks the version of glib.
> glib-config reports 1.2.1 but the gtk configure script finds 1.2.0. It
> suggests that I delete the 1.2.0 files. Can I do this without breaking and
> dependencies. If so which files should I be removing.
Which distribution are you using? Perhaps its package manager has an
uninstallation process.
Or perhaps you can tell the gtk configuration script where to look for
your new glib (it may be somewhere in /usr/local).
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:54:08 -0700
From: Armando Ortiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win 98 Killed lilo - can't start Linux
David Vitithoe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't know how to fix the problem, but I can tell you that this has happened
> too me too. My system (IDE drives) had separate Win98 and Linux partitions
> on the same disk.
> When Win98 crashed, it occasionally corrupted my Linux partition. I discovered
> this by booting from my rescue disk and running `fdisk`.
>
> I have yet to figure out why this is happening. I'm eventually going to install
> a separate hard drive for Linux. Hopefully, this will fix the problem.
>
> Does anyone have any insights on this one?
>
> - Dave (Da Slug)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> : I can't fix lilo.
>
> : I have a Scsi disk and when I boot from the Rescue floppies, 0 SCSI devices
> : are detected. I can't use insmod because aic7xxx and insmod are not on the
> : rescue set. I can boot in expert mode (using the CDROM) and find aic7xxx and
> : insmod, but I can't copy them to a floppy because device /dev/fd0 does not
> : exist. When I try to run Lilo from expert mode, I get the error message:
> : Can't find file or directory /dev/sda.
I have a 6.4GB Quantum IDE drive split halfway with LILO on the MBR...I had to
install Windows98 first before I got COLv1.3 installed, but the two seem to live
happily on the same drive...never tried splitting the SCSI drives, tho...
Armando
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Cyrillic setup
From: Arcady Genkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:28:28 GMT
Hi all:
Is the Cyrillic-HOWTO still relevant? It was written more than 2 years
ago?
For one, it says that using xkb is not recommended. Is it still so? Why?
I've installed xruskb package, and added path to cyrillic fonts to
XF86config. Now Xterm shows russian symbols w/o any extra
settings. BTW, I left all the Xkb settings as they were in
/etc/X11/Xmodmap, and so far no problems with that.
My biggest concern is Xemacs. I'm dying to make it use cyrillics. Do I
need to install Mule for that? Or can it be done by just changing
default fonts somewhere?
Thanks for any input,
--
Arcady Genkin
"I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood..." - GsYDE
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Kernel Compile Error
Date: 15 Apr 1999 00:45:45 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Patrick Lanphier wrote:
>I am receiving the following error when compiling the linux 2.2.5 kernel. Please
>help with gcc
>version 2.7.2.3.
>/usr/src/linux.old/include/net/sock.h: In function `sk_filter_charge':
>/usr/src/linux.old/include/net/sock.h:817: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
>gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.old/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
>-fomit-frame-pointer
>-pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2
>-DCPU=586 -c
>-o consolemap.o consolemap.c
>gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o conmakehash conmakehash.c
>make[3]: *** [slhc.o] Error 1
Either this is gibberish or you invoke "make" with the "-j" flag, which
makes the output more confusing to read.
Anyway, are you sure that you are building 2.2.5? I think this was
supposed to have been fixed somewhere after 2.2.2. Or perhaps you
need the latest -ac patch (ftp.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/alan/2.2/).
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: rcp large file crashes network!
Date: 15 Apr 1999 00:50:07 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Steuber wrote:
> I have a problem. If I try to rcp a 2GB file to my other machine, the
> network connection will die. I don't know what the problem is. To
> cure it, I have to kill the rcp and restart networking.
>
> System info:
>
> SuSE 6.0 running kernel 2.0.36
> PCMCIA CS 3.0.8
> 3Com 3CCFE575BT
>
> This is the first time I've seen a networking problem. I would really
> like to fix it.
I don't have any specific advice, but the generic recommendation
is to watch the network traffic using tcpdump. What is on the
"other machine"? Have you considered PCMCIA CS 3.0.9? Have you
tried other protocols (scp, ftp, kermit, ...)?
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:50:19 -0700
From: Armando Ortiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what's the best browser for linux?
Bob Tennent wrote:
> I've heard good things about 4.51 but I still use 3.04; it's small and
> almost never crashes.
I like that...hehehehe....'ALMOST'...
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCMCIA card not being recognized
Date: 14 Apr 1999 22:57:15 -0700
Please respond by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I got a IBM ThinkPad 1411 and I cannot get Linux (Red Hat 5.2) to recognize
my ActionTec DataLink 56K PC Card Fax Modem V.90 PCMCIA modem card on my
laptop when I installed the OS. This is not a winmodem so I dont know why
I cant this modem to work with Linux. I also have Bay Networks NETGEAR PCMCIA
10BaseT Ethernet card that wont get seen by Linux. I appreciate your advice
!!!
Thanks,
Ben Prusinski
email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CANT GET PCMCIA services setup on Linux
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Date: 14 Apr 1999 23:01:43 -0700
Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have two new PCMCIA cards in my laptop and cant get Linux to start
PCMCIA services during the installation of Red Hat 5.2 Linux.
How do I get Linux to do this?
Thanks
Ben Prusinski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: 14 Apr 1999 21:07:14 -0700
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>>>>> "Harry" == Harry Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Harry> Michael Powel wrote:
>> Umm, linux is much easier to use than windows.
Harry> I think it depends what you're used to. My local PC World
Harry> has a few Macs (well, iMacs) on display and it's funny to
Harry> see how puzzling everyone finds them. Where are the
Harry> applications? Where's My Computer? Where's the Start
Harry> button? It's utterly bewildering to me - I use Linux, PCs
Harry> running Windows, and Macintoshes virtually every day and
Harry> Macs are the easiest to use (also the flakiest, but that's
Harry> another story).
Harry> Sad fact is, if you're used to it, it's easy.
To some extent, that's true. But I think keyboard usage is far easier
to pick up than mousing around. The problem with GUIs like Windows is
that they're too opaque to the user. They're very inflexible. And
one thing I've noticed -- the most experienced Windows users actually
use the mouse as little as possible.
I put linux on my box here to `learn unix.' I didn't really have any
idea of making it my main OS. It beat out Windows because it was far
easier for me to use & it does a better job of the things I want to
do. I spent a year tinkering with Windows, trying to make it run
faster and with more stability -- and failed. Going to linux was like
taking a big breath of fresh air.
mp
powered by GNU/linux since Sept 1997
- --
Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Would John the Baptist have lost his head if his name was Steve?"
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:55:53 -0700
From: Armando Ortiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Linux Database for commercial project
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In no particular order:
> IBM's DB2
> Sybase
> Oracle
> Informix
> All the above are free for evaluation purposes...
We use MySQL for Linux where I work...it crashes every so often, but
that's because someone went in and f****d up the entire database
structures...
Then again...you could always run Perl and make text CSV's... *snicker*
Armando
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From: Harry Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:59:04 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> If Microsoft ever published a piece of software that was
>> >>> worth the retail list price, it would be a flaming miracle.
>> >>
>> >>Internet Explorer? List price $0,000.00 (including local taxes)?
>> >
>> >So? It's still overpriced.
>>
>> I'm sure I can negotiate a 50% discount for you.
>>
>> Harry
>
>Nope, still too expensive. I'm so broke, I can't pay attention.
You know, maybe it's just me being paranoid, but while I seem to be
exchanging messages with one person, actually different people are
replying. This is spooky. Or perhaps I'm the one not paying attention!
Harry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Report: NT 3.5x Faster Than Linux
Date: 15 Apr 1999 06:18:43 -0500
(M$ paid for this test -- so if you want to duck out here and save yourself the time,
go ahead.)
Excerpted from:
NTools E-NewsFlash: Report: NT 3.5x Faster Than Linux
*****************************************************
April 14, 1999
LOS GATOS, Calif., April 13. Today, Mindcraft released the results
of a study comparing the performance of Red Hat Linux 5.2 (updated
to the Linux 2.2.2 kernel) and Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0
operating systems. According to the report, Windows NT Server
provides over three and a half times the performance of Linux as a
Web server. Furthermore, the report shows that when testing Windows
NT Server and Linux as file servers, Windows NT Server provides over
two and a half times the performance of Linux. The full report,
including all of the details needed to reproduce the tests, is on
Mindcraft's Web site at:
http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/nts4rhlinux.html
Using benchmarks from Ziff-Davis Benchmark Operation (ZDBOp), the
report compares the peak performance levels of both Windows NT
Server and Linux configured both as a file server and a Web server.
(I have an internal (company private) Linux SIG which has a long list
of missed optimizations to the Linux setup given in the article. And
of course M$ paid for the test! I think they got their money's worth.)
Now, why didn't they hipe price performance? Hmm. Bets me!
Howard
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Patte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: SIOCSI....
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:35:28 +0200
Bonjour,
After installation of kernel 2.2.5, I get the following messages on
boot:
SIOCSIFADDR: operation non supported by device
eth0: unknown interface: operation non supported by device
SIOCSINETMASK: operation non supported by device
SIOCSIFBRADDR: operation non supported by device
SIOCADDRT: operation non supported by device
I understant that my ethernet card is not recognized, but it is easy to
start it with usernet for instance.
ifconfg eth0 return the following message:
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:4B:F7:98:77
inet addr:193.48.200.85 Bcast:193.48.200.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:2489 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:261 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:5 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:3 Base address:0x300
and conf.modules file is:
alias sound sb
options -k sb io=0x240 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=3
alias midi opl3
options -k opl3 io=0x388
alias nls_cp437 off
alias net-pf-4 off
options -k i82365 doscan=0
alias eth0 3c589
the number of the ethernet card is correct.
Could anybody help me?
Thank you.
-- Fran�ois Patte. UFR de math�matiques et informatique.
45 rue des St P�res. 75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tel: 01 44 55 35 59 -- Fax: 01 44 55 35 35
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:09:27 -0600
Michel wrote:
> *** No Spam wrote:
> >
> > I have been a Linux user/fan for 2+ years now. Recently I heard some bad
> > news from one of my friends. I heard that M$ is working on an M$ Linux and
> > they are going to release their crappy products for Linux, except that the
> > program will only run if you have the M$ Linux kernel. So I think very soon
> > we'll kiss our good old linux goodbye.
> Are you the same moron who started that OS/2 is dead thread?
I doubt it. S/he doesn't seem old enough for that.
Remember, OS/2 has been "dead" for over ten years now...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Where to provide a driver?
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:06:59 GMT
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:05:48 +0200, Sven Bauhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I've developed a device driver for linux. Now I want to provide under
>the GPL.
[...]
>Can anyone tell me where to put the driver and how to make it known?
Hi!
uploaden: for instance to ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/linux/Incoming
(with an accompying .lsm file)
Then post an announcement to comp.os.linux.announce [If your
Provider has configured his newsserver correctly, this should do.
Otherwise you should mail the moderator - www.usenet.org to find out
who - and mail your provider that they should have their newsserver
configured correctly -- So best is, mail it directly]
--
Greets from over there
Dagurashibanipal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
'What with our wounded who can't walk? We don't leave our own!'
'You're right, Captain. We'll take them. They're field rations'
-- Mary Gentle, 'Grunts!'
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From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:28:59 +0000
Stuart Fox wrote:
>
> Think non technical for a change. Linux is a great operating system if you
> are technically minded - which I assume all of us in this NG are ;) - but
> for ordinary small business owners, it is a complete mystery. At least
> Windows NT looks like something they know, and they don't have to learn
> command line syntaxes for doing basic admin tasks.
Try actually *trying* the redHat install for a change.
No flames intended, but you have obviously not tried to do what you are
saying is not easy.
RH installs require *less* questions to be answered than NT, take less
reboots, and less time.
Linuxcocf is a GUI that will let you configure most everything on a
Linux box.
>
> I have no particular axe to grind with either the NT or Linux side (although
> I am a consultant for MS products), I just think there are a few linux
> zealots out there who although they have technically excellent solutions,
> fail to take into account that non techos are going to be using these
> products.
Take that advice and apply it to yourself, and you'll have something.
>
> Also, time for a few facts
>
> 1. NO operating system is bug free
> 2. Both Linux camps and MS spend considerable time locating and fixing bugs
> 3. A properly configured NT box will not Blue Screen, and will be as stable
> as a well configured Linux box.
#3 is false.
--
Bill Anderson Linux Administrator
MCS-Boise (ARC) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My opinions are just that; _my_ opinions.
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From: Eric Sandall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: wsu.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel w/ SMP (help)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:13:56 -0700
When you go to 'make' the kernel, try 'make oldconfig', I believe that
reuses your old options....if that doesn't work, the correct way is in
the README file in /usr/src/linux (or wherever you unarchived your
kernel source).
--
Eric Sandall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.wsu.edu/~sandalle/
ICQ#: 667348
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:48:18 -0700
From: Armando Ortiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: 3com / US robotics 56K
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm trying to find a 56K modem that will work under linux. I checked the
> "Linux modems list," aka "Winmodems are not modems," and discovered that the
> 3com / USRobotics Sportster 56K, model 1785, allegedly works fine.
>
> The problem is that I can't find any of these being sold anywhere. The
> closest model number I can find is 1787, and I can't find any technical
> details that tell if this one would probably be compatible, too. I'm curious
> if anyone else out there has had any success with this model.
>
> Also, if you know of another 56K modem that works well with linux, I wouldn't
> mind hearing about that, either.
Any hardware based modem works well under Linux...I'm using a Rockwell based 56k
external modem...if you're gonna get a modem...get an external one so you don't
have to monkey around with IRQ's and I/O port settings...it's such a bitch
sometimes.
Tip: use the 56k standard/proprietary modem that will let you connect to your
ISP at 56k should one or the other fail...i.e.: v.90/x2 or v.90/k56Flex...
Armando
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From: Kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: re: Virtual Host Query
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:44:52 +0800
Hi guys,
i was wondering if it is possible to create a virtual host without
requiring another ip address. For example, my address is
www.myserver.com and i would like to create a pages.myserver.com which
will link to www.myserver.com/~pages.
Is this possible?
k
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