Linux-Misc Digest #864, Volume #19               Fri, 16 Apr 99 09:13:16 EDT

Contents:
  Webmin IS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ("Mackral")
  Re: Email with Earthlink, Sendmail, exmh, mh, Linux libc5 (jik-)
  Re: Voodoo Banshee and XF86_SVGA (jik-)
  Color problem when Running Cadence on Linux (Jacky)
  Re: problems with modules under linux (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: Getting / Created Test Data for a Database (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: SCSI scanners anyone? (Rob Fisher)
  Re: Help choosing distribution ("Martin Ozolins")
  Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the  (Harry Lewis)
  newgrp doesn't work anymore ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Which pages get swapped out? (Christian Wolf)
  Re: Opinions on KDE? (Christian Wolf)
  Re: A New 'puter Board for Me (Jeff McWilliams)
  Re: '/var/log/messages' problems... (Roland Latour)
  Re: script for .procmailrc (Peter Samuelson)
  Oracle installation (Frank Heijmans)

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From: "Mackral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Webmin IS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crossposted-To: 
comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:14:23 GMT

I've been messing with this Webmin thing for the past few hours and I just
love it!  It's much more comprehensive than Linuxconf!

Web administration is the future!


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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:26:00 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.mh,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Email with Earthlink, Sendmail, exmh, mh, Linux libc5

Keven R. Pittsinger wrote:
> 
> OK, I changed providers to Earthlink lately and my mail has gone to hell.

For some reason that does not surprise me.  I, until somewhat recently,
was on a Sprint/Earthlink account....mail NEVER worked, I used my own
SMTP server for outgoing mail, and often had to telnet into their POP3
and delete messages in order to GET my mail.  My news postings, until
about a week before I told them to get fucked, hardly ever made it
out...and I was unable to upload my webpages to their ftp server.

When I told them about these problems, the blamed my box...after I told
them repetedly that theirs was the ONLY server I had these problems
with.  I went along for a while, tried all the passive and transfer
types they told me....eventually I had a sys admin friend look at my
box, and try to send something to my website from his...guess what, he
told me to tell them their server was fucked so I did.  The person I
talked to supposedly used linux at home and "never had these problems".

Often I was unable to get through because the point of pressence sent me
jibberish or...get this...HTML (happened once, I called tech support and
got some drunk moron who didn't know ... well you get the picture)!!! 
But that was when they were sprint.  Besides that, they just liked to
periodically change the login script on me without notice.

Earthink is the most seriously fucked ISP you will ever find.  Switch
immediately is all I can say.


Now I have a different ISP and I get my mail, can use my website, can
post to newsgroups...I am very happy.  Except they also like to send
jibberish in their pop, or change the login script from one to the
other...often times within the same 5 minutes....they have 2 different
ways of doing it and which I get seems to be random.  I need to figure
out how to make chat wait for one thing or the other so I don't have to
fuck with that anymore and I would be ok.

SPRYNET is the *BEST* I have ever seen or tried, or heard about.  Only
problem, well used to be anyway, id they had MS only software/protocols
for tranfering websites.  Now Mindspring bought them and they use
ftp....you even get your own domain like ....
http://user.home.sprynet.com/ which is kinda cool.

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:28:34 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Voodoo Banshee and XF86_SVGA

Rob Fisher wrote:
> 
> I'm sure I've read somewhere that you can get XFree86 to work on Voodoo
> Banshee boards using the SVGA server? I had a quick go at it last night,
> but I could only get 320x200x256 resolution. (I'm after 1280x1040x24).
> Am I wasting my time trying this, or is it possible? I don't care about
> the 3D stuff, I just want a big, colourful, fast desktop.
> 
> I'm not asking for step-by-step instructions, just hoping someone knows
> what I'm on about. Mailed replies would be especially nice.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rob

I think banshee support will be included in the next release....ask
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Jacky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.cad.cadence,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Color problem when Running Cadence on Linux
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:45:43 -0500

Hi. I try to run cadence from Linux system. But I only can set the color
to 8b. otherwise my application - Cadence will tell you it can't handle
16/32 planes. But if I run it w/ 8b colors, the colors are quite
different from what they look like when I run it on a HP-Unix
workstation. so I can't tell some of the colors at all.
So, is there some way to change the color of linux? And also what's the
problem here?

Thanks!

Jacky
(Pls reply to me.)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: problems with modules under linux
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:27:31 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:05:58 GMT, NF Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear) wrote:
>
>>I am having difficulty in using a new kernel under linux. I recently
>>reconfigured and recompiled my 2.0.35 kernel. Of course, I included
>>most things as a module. I then ran "make dep clean install modules
>>modules_install" to setup the new kernel. When I rebooted I noticed
>>that I no longer had PPP, PS/2, printer, or other features I setup
>>as a module. I then tried "make dep clean zImage install modules
>>modules_install;lilo" just in case. Same problem.
>
>Did you run "depmod -a 2.0.35"? This is required to build the
>list of module dependencies for the new kernel.

Okay, I tried using "depmod -a 2.0.35" and it still doesn't seem to work.
However, I did notice something. I run SVGATextMode to put me in a usable 
resolution since I use text mode often. Anyway, if I do not compile module
support into the kernel stm does _NOT_ work. However, if I do enable
support it works as desired. However, even with module support I still
do not get my network card, PS/2 mouse, parallel port (printer), PPP, or
any other modules. So, I do have module support it seems, but am simply
not properly setting something up for the modules supplied with the kernel
(or so I think).

Any ideas? I'm pretty much stuck with no idea where to go..

Regards, Dustin

-- 
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Getting / Created Test Data for a Database
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:20:38 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 12 Apr 1999 01:46:37 GMT, Justin B Willoughby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
>I have MySQL and would like a lot of test data to play with.
>
>I tried to do a search for "test database data" via infoseek and dejanews
>but came up with next to nothing. Is there some where I can get this kind
>of test data or perhaps created it.
>
>Could this kind of thing be created with some type of random generator?
>
>Just looking to for some thing to actually make my Linux box work <g> Doing
>web, e-mail, compiles, downloads, created graphics with the Gimp, editing
>documents with WP80 is not enough... I want to see how MySQL can do
>crunching a bunch of data....
>
>Any one with info on getting/created test data... let me know..
>
>(Just some test and numeric fields is what I am looking for, so I can do
>some calculations and such....dontno)

Just write a program to dump out a large set of values where each record is 
random in relation to one another, but the fields within the records are 
related:

STRING  INT_1 INT_2 
======= ===== =====
S_04_13    04    13
S_10_99    10    99
..

That way you can see that you are properly handling records going to and
from a table, but can validate the fields within each record.

Here is a little C diddy that demonstrates what I am talking about:

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <time.h>

#define STRING_SIZE (2 + sizeof(int)*2 + 1 + sizeof(int)*2 + 1)
#define NUMBUF_SIZE (sizeof(int)*2 + 1)

int main(void)
{
    char string[STRING_SIZE];
    char num_buf[NUMBUF_SIZE];
    int num;
    int i;
    int int1, int2;
    
    srand(time(NULL));

    do
    {
        printf("How many random records: ");
        fgets(num_buf, NUMBUF_SIZE, stdin);
        num = atoi(num_buf);
    } while (0 >= num);

    for (i = 0; i < num; i++)
    {
        int1 = rand();
        int2 = rand();
        sprintf(string, "S_%d_%d", int1, int2);
        printf("%s %d %d\n", string, int1, int2);
    }

    return 0;
}

Hope this helps, Dustin

-- 
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Rob Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SCSI scanners anyone?
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:28:46 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> SANE (http://www.mostang.com/sane/) is the definitive scanner support
> package for Linux/Unix.  Your GT7000 isn't on their list of supported
> scanners, but that page is quite often out of date - you might have
> some luck asking the maintainer or on the mailing list.

I'll just give it a try! Thanks for the help.


Rob

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From: "Martin Ozolins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Help choosing distribution
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:56:15 -0700


Tim Kelley wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Bloody Viking wrote:
>
>> Slackware is great for getting your hands dirty while Red Hat has a nice
>> install. However, with Red Hat, you have to avoid letting it install LILO
>> on the hard drive. Let it make a LILO floppy. Then, at the part where you
>> to the LILO on the hard drive part, turn off the machine and boot with
the
>> LILO disk. Get a copy of the kernel and put it on a DOS floppy, and get
>> Loadlin from the CD. Then, you can install Loadlin easally on the DOS
>> partition to boot Linux.
>
>I can't recall ever having a problem with lilo, after installing Red
>Hat, Caldera and Suse at least 60 times.  I can't imagine what sort of
>problems you're having ...
>
Huh? what planet do you live on anyway?
>--
>Tim Kelley
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Harry Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the 
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:49:41 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Matt O'Toole wrote:
> why not have the option of either the mouse or keyboard at all times?

Sorry to butt-in, but I just had to say "hear, hear!"

>From some of the replies in this forum you'd think it takes a degree in
engineering to learn to use a mouse! Even if this were so, however,
X-Windows still gives you the option of starting an Xterm and typing
commands away to your heart's content.

Harry


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: newgrp doesn't work anymore
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:47:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi.

When I instaal software myself on my system, I make an entry in
/etc/group, newgrp to that group and install the software, so I can
see which file belongs to which program.
Bu after newgrp-ing about 10 times I get the following error message:

#newgrp elm
getgroups: Invalid argument
#

So now i cannot newgrp to _any_ other group as root. I couldn't find
anything in the various /var/log files, and it happend on both my
Slackware and my Stampede installations.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance..
Rolek.

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From: Christian Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Which pages get swapped out?
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:47:29 +0200

Hi,

I just wandered if there is a tool which tells me which pages (pages of
which processes) are currently swapped out by the kernel. Does anybody
know anything?

Chris

-- 
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 
|      Christian Wolf, student at Vienna University of Technology      | 
| until 31.8.1999 at Institut National des Sciences Appliqu�es de Lyon | 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]           No problems, just challenges!  | 
+------------==> http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9226297 <==---------------+

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From: Christian Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:50:41 +0200


> 1.  Do most of you use it?  If not why?
> 
> 2.  Is the Q library on which KDE is built used for much else?

I just deinstalled it because it is a memory hog. I�ve been using it for
quite some time, but on my P-300 (64MB RAM) LInux behaves like a VERY
slow windows system, and I don�t install Linux to get an even slower
system than windows. It�s almost impossible to run staroffice (another
memory hog) with KDE. So actually yesterday I changed back to fvwm2.
Perhaps again if a have a computer with 256 MB RAM and 1000 Mhz :)

Christian


-- 
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 
|      Christian Wolf, student at Vienna University of Technology      | 
| until 31.8.1999 at Institut National des Sciences Appliqu�es de Lyon | 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]           No problems, just challenges!  | 
+------------==> http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9226297 <==---------------+

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff McWilliams)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: A New 'puter Board for Me
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:00:08 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rich Looke wrote:
Rich,

Wow, that's a tall order.  Here are a couple comments based on my own
experiences. 

First off, I don't think the stardard XFree86 supports any sort of dual
display functionality right now.  Check www.xfree86.org.  You may be REQUIRED
to run a dual headed version of Xi's X server to take advantage of your card.
I'd also check with them to see if their card has the support you're looking
for.  

Further, I think you'll be fairly challenged in finding a motherboard which
supports more than 2 ISA slots these days.  Most people buying new ATX
motherboards seem to value 5 PCI slots, 2 ISA, and 1 AGP slot.  If you're
building a new machine, then I suspect you don't plan on using a lot of old
legacy hardware in it.  Just about anything you might want to plug into such a
board these days will be PCI based, except for cheap PCI cards and possibly an
internal analog modem.  

Stay away from PCI modems.  It sounds like you're going to have an ISDN
connection in which case you may not need an analog modem anyway.  Go to
www.dejanews.com and search comp.os.linux.networking for stuff about ISDN.
When I looked there and in the kernel documentation for ISDN it seemed that
most of the internal ISDN modem support was for European based ISDN.  

Here at work we use an ISDN router.  It's a Netgear RT328.  You plug it into
your ISDN line, and then plug it into your twisted pair ethernet network.  Set
it up and you magically have a LAN that's connected via ISDN to whatever is on
the other end.  They're pretty affordable too - might make more sense than the
hassle of an ISDN "modem".

I hope this helps a little.  It doesn't directly answer your questions, but it
may give you some additional insight on choosing some hardware.

Jeff

-- 
Jeff McWilliams - Advanced Development Engineer, ACE Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Roland Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '/var/log/messages' problems...
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:49:50 -0700

Bob Martin wrote:
> 
> It's just a time stamp for the log file to say pppd is running
> 
> hellraiser wrote:
> 
> > ok, why the hell do i get...
> >
> > Apr 14 19:33:04 ozzy -- MARK --
> >
> > ...every 20 minutes when pppd is running?!
> >
> > for example:
> >
> > Apr 14 18:13:04 ozzy -- MARK --
> > Apr 14 18:33:04 ozzy -- MARK --
> > Apr 14 18:53:04 ozzy -- MARK --
> > Apr 14 19:13:04 ozzy -- MARK --
> > Apr 14 19:33:04 ozzy -- MARK --

I dipped into my archives on this one:
=====================================
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jamie)
Subject: Re: -- MARK -- ing time
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:06:35 -0600

Bill Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just did a system overhaul- fresh install to / and /usr from Slakware
>3.6. Now system logs are showing a -- MARK -- message every 20 minutes.
>Any idea where this is coming from?

Annoying as hell, isn't it?
syslogd, new "feature," the default MARKs every 20 minutes.
Look in your /etc/rc.d/rc.M and rc.inet2
change it to
    syslogd -m [number]

 man sysklogd

-- 
 Retired Tech Support Engineer       http://home.cdsnet.net/~rolandl
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Ben
Franklin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: script for .procmailrc
Date: 15 Apr 1999 20:46:35 -0500
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[George Macario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> divide only messages smaller than 5 kb into smaller messages of, at
> most, 160 characters, add to each new message "date", "from" and
> "subject" headers of the mail which was divided and forward all
> messages obtained to another address.

This other address sounds sort of like a pager gateway.... (:

> To do this, I need a script for the file .procmailrc; anyone could
> write it for me?

As has already been suggested, you might use Perl.  In particular, the
Mail::Internet module (see CPAN if your installation doesn't already
have it) has saved me a *lot* of headache parsing and manipulating
messages.

And no, probably nobody feels like writing something for you.  But, as
a hint, you don't really need procmail.  Just put two lines in your
~/.forward file: `\username' and `|/the/perl/program'.  That will take
care of saving a copy of each message.

-- 
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Heijmans)
Subject: Oracle installation
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:52:03 GMT

Hi,

I've been trying to install Oracle on my linux box. During one script
the shell comes up with an error on the GROUPS variable. I have no
ideae what it is for but the Oracle script tries to set it.
Appearantly it is a readonly variable. Or that is what the error
message tells me. How can I change this? 

Regards

Frank
ftgh at xs4all dot nl

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