Linux-Misc Digest #864, Volume #24 Mon, 19 Jun 00 15:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Get single line in shell script (Markus Grabner)
Re: Creating a boot disk from an old version of DOS (mike)
Re: Get single line in shell script (Vilmos Soti)
Re: 43935560///old pass word will not work what is my pass word????? (rez)
Re: Newbie: Shell Script (rez)
Re: Lilo Problem (rez)
ftp welcome messages ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
newbie distros do they really exist? (Flounder)
/boot partition
Apache Woes (Steve Hunt)
Re: Installing Windoze and Linux (Crawford)
Reloading bookmarks error (Rick)
Re: Reloading bookmarks error (I R A Darth Aggie)
Finding CPU utilization on UNIX platforms (Carl Swanson)
sounds in KDM (MooR)
Re: Finding CPU utilization on UNIX platforms (Barry Margolin)
Re: Reloading bookmarks error (Leejay Wu)
LILO brain-teaser - can you solve it?: Added new HD, hdb7 is now hdc7, need help
restoring LILO ("Gregg Giles")
IBM Thinkpad 380D with linux? (ral)
Re: democracy? (Matthias Warkus)
transfer kppp setting to user (torus2000)
Mandrake 7.1 Problem (Martin Racette)
Re: Get single line in shell script (Robie Basak)
Re: Reloading bookmarks error (Rick)
Re: /boot partition (Dances With Crows)
stability of culture of helpfulness (Oliver Baker)
Re: ftp welcome messages (Dances With Crows)
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From: Markus Grabner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Get single line in shell script
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:56:13 +0200
Hi!
I'm looking for a simple program that reads a single line from the
terminal and outputs it on stdout, so I can do things like that in a
shell script:
echo "please enter your name: "
NAME=`read_line_from_terminal`
echo "your name is " $NAME
Any suggestions?
Ciao,
Markus
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Phone: +43/316/873-5041, Fax: +43/316/873-5050
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WWW:
http://www.icg.tu-graz.ac.at/~grabner
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creating a boot disk from an old version of DOS
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:09:47 -0400
Hi,
the issue is that since the old version of DOS is not installed
on my hard drive and is not bootable, how do I create a bootable
floppy from the files that I saved from old bootable floppys. I don't
have the floppys anymore just the files in a subdirectory on my
hard drive that were saved for archival purposes.
Mike
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Subject: Re: Get single line in shell script
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:17:22 GMT
Markus Grabner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm looking for a simple program that reads a single line from the
> terminal and outputs it on stdout, so I can do things like that in a
> shell script:
>
> echo "please enter your name: "
> NAME=`read_line_from_terminal`
> echo "your name is " $NAME
read x
echo $x
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rez)
Subject: Re: 43935560///old pass word will not work what is my pass word?????
Date: 19 Jun 2000 17:19:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 04:30:02 GMT j wrote:
>my old number 43935560 pass word isnt working what is the correct
>word???????????this what i need to know now
4393556o ;-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rez)
Subject: Re: Newbie: Shell Script
Date: 19 Jun 2000 17:19:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:19:04 GMT Alex Loew wrote:
>When I try to run a script it only runs when I explicitly call the
>shell which is used:
>e.g. ksh <file>
The ksh command it's for the _actual_ bash session. If you do not do, the
program is executed by anather session of shell and you do not vew it.
[excuse my English]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rez)
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,nl.comp.os.linux.overig,nl.comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Lilo Problem
Date: 19 Jun 2000 17:19:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 17 Jun 2000 11:45:50 GMT Martin Herrman wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:29:40 +0200, FROZEN_Steam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> I've configured lilo on mbr, but when it starts, There's only an 'L' on my
>> screen and I can do nothing but hit reset...
Have You got do:
#: lilo -v ?
It's not enough to edit it!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ftp welcome messages
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:08:34 GMT
Hi,
I am running wu-ftpd and would like to know
what file I should edit in order to have a
customized ftp welcome message when people
ftp in.
Any information will be very helpful.
Thanks a lot
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From: Flounder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: newbie distros do they really exist?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:26:37 -0500
I want to know what makes mandrake a newbie distro? Most people that
say Redhat is not a newbie distro say Mandrake is but why? They are
pretty much the same. Mandrake you can do all the same stuff you can
on redhat, slack, debian and all these other "elite" distros. I have
used all these distros and like them all but I have been a linux users
for 2 years and have found that you can do all the same things on all
these systems. People just seem to think if it is harder it is better.
dselect on debian is easy to use so why is debian not a newbie distro.
I started on slack and am still here why isn't a newbie distro I ran
it as a newbie. I think the reason why people think Mandrake is a
newbie system is because it is newer than all those so they think
since it hasn't been around as long it is a newbie distro. I want to
know what you all think. Tell me what you think is a newbie distro and
what makes it that way. Real reason not just like uuuh.... because you
an't cool unless you have to uuuh... just because I like so and so
distro so the ones I don't like are newbie distros.
I do not mean to start a flame war I want serious answers please with
valid reasons. I mean linux is linux is linux.
Please send all flames to /dev/null
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: /boot partition
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:30:10 GMT
I have been using Linux for about a year. I have always used LILO to dual
boot WIN98/Linux. Whenever I have needed to reinstall LILO after a WIN98
install I just use my Linux startup disk I created during installation and
then reconfigure LILO. I have had no problems with this. I was wondering
though how the /boot partion works. Can LILO go in there? Is it a
partition to boot from like it sounds? What are the advantages of using
it? How do I set it up? Thank you JH
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From: Steve Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache Woes
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:30:13 GMT
I am using Apache Server 1.3.12 on Redhat Linux 6.2. I have document root
set as /usr/local/apache/htdocs and I want my visitors to be able to access
every subfolder in /usr/local/apache/htdocs. How can I do this?
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From: Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Windoze and Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:30:14 GMT
First, you might see if you can run the program in LINUX under WINE;
perhaps someone at 3dStudio would know. Sorry, haven't the foggiest about
that myself.
WINDOWS needs to be see itself as the primary active partition when it
boots, but not necessarily the first partition on your HD; however, the
partition will need to be within the 1024 cylinder limitation area. On my
system with a 13GB drive running under BIOS-enabled LBA addressing, that
happens around 8GB.
If I remember correctly, the LINUX FDISK program allows non-destructive
partitioning of DOS (16-bit) partitions, but doesn't allow moving
partitions. I know of some programs that can help with this such as
Partition Magic or OS Commander, but I think both have installation
limitations that preclude their being installed on a straight LINUX system
such as you have now. Perhaps one or the other (or both) can be set to run
from a diskette. You might look into this. I realize that means you'll
have to buy and install a diskette drive, but look on the bright side -
you can also use it to create the sometimes necessary LINUX boot diskette.
Despite the expense, you might also consider buying a second system,
either new or used, strictly for use as a WINDOWS platform or installing a
removable HD bay and buying a second HD and mounting hardware for such
use. If the second, remember that you'll probably need to set up both HD's
for use in the bay.
I hope this is somewhat clearer than mud - my system has both OS on it,
but I had WINDOWS first, then installed LINUX. Much of what I've written
is based on the research I did before my installation. My system default
boots to WINDOWS and I then use LINLOADER to launch LINUX. In my case, I
did that because I didn't want LILO mucking with the MBR.
Good luck - Crawford
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Reloading bookmarks error
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:41:24 -0400
Every few minutes I get an error dialog... bookmarks on disk have
changes, reloading. What odes this mean? Every now and then, I add or
delete a bookmark, but I have only been getting this error message
recently.
Any and all help appreciated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I R A Darth Aggie)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Reloading bookmarks error
Date: 19 Jun 2000 17:48:31 GMT
Reply-To: no-courtesy-copies-please
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:41:24 -0400,
Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ Every few minutes I get an error dialog... bookmarks on disk have
+ changes, reloading. What odes this mean? Every now and then, I add or
+ delete a bookmark, but I have only been getting this error message
+ recently.
Do you have multiple instances of netscape running? that's usually where
that comes from. Netscape doesn't always quit cleanly -- particularly
if it has a problem with a java app.
% ps -ef | grep -i netscape
Thus why I fear the phrase "starting java"... :)
James
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From: Carl Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.aix
Subject: Finding CPU utilization on UNIX platforms
Date: 19 Jun 2000 17:52:41 GMT
If I were keen on finding out the CPU utilization
on a unix platform, such as Solaris, Linux, AIX, etc,
how might I do that from a C/C++ or Perl program.
Is there a call I can make, a system library?
And, for that matter, what is the difference between
CPU utilization and load average.
Thanks, please copy me on e-mail along with any repost.
Carl
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From: MooR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sounds in KDM
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:57:12 +0200
Hello,
I use KDM as login manager. Is it possible to play a sound when a user
logs in or types a wrong password? If not, are there any other login
managers around who can do this?
thanks,
moor.
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From: Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Finding CPU utilization on UNIX platforms
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:00:28 GMT
In article <8ilml9$sv6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Carl Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If I were keen on finding out the CPU utilization
>on a unix platform, such as Solaris, Linux, AIX, etc,
>how might I do that from a C/C++ or Perl program.
>Is there a call I can make, a system library?
getrusage() will report on usage of various resources by a specific
process. I don't think there's any portable mechanism to get the total CPU
usage of the system -- take a look at the source code to "top" to see how
it accesses various statistics on different versions of Unix.
>And, for that matter, what is the difference between
>CPU utilization and load average.
CPU utilization is the ratio of total CPU time to real time. Load average
is the average number of processes in the run queue. Normally if the load
average is equal to or greater than the number of processors, the CPU
utilization will be at 100%.
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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reloading bookmarks error
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:58:15 -0400
Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 19-Jun-100 Reloading bookmarks
error by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Every few minutes I get an error dialog... bookmarks on disk have
> changes, reloading. What odes this mean? Every now and then, I add or
> delete a bookmark, but I have only been getting this error message
> recently.
You've got a stale Netscape process running. Kill it.
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From: "Gregg Giles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: LILO brain-teaser - can you solve it?: Added new HD, hdb7 is now hdc7, need
help restoring LILO
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:09:43 -0700
Hello all -
Background: I've added a new Windows-formatted drive to my Win98/Linux
dual-boot system, and have moved my Linux drive from being the slave on the
primary IDE chain (hdb7) to being the master on the secondary IDE chain
(hdc7). I've listed the old and new drive configurations at the bottom of
this msg. The slave/master jumpers are all set correctly, the BIOS recognize
the drives correctly, and all the data on all drives is intact. At some
point Win98 over-wrote LILO (which isn't the real problem, keep reading), so
I'm using my Linux boot disk to access LILO.
The problem: Restoring LILO doesn't work like I used to be able to do it.
Unfortunately, using the following command at the boot disk LILO prompt
*should* work, but fails during the boot process (I'll explain in a sec):
"linux ramdisk=0 root=/dev/hdc7". All the drives are found, a string of
normal boot messages appear, but at some point I'm told to enter a root
password (or control-D for normal maintenance) to continue. I enter my root
password but it fails (using control-D also fails) and dumps me to the shell
and minimal commands are available - unfortunately LILO isn't one of them.
At this point it seems that just running "lilo" doesn't work like I think it
should. (I used to be able to boot from a boot disk using "linux ramdisk=0
root=/dev/hdb7"before I moved the drives around and restore LILO with ease.)
A quick ls of the Linux drive seems to indicate all the data is intact.
Question: Anybody got any ideas? (I probably could just move the Linux drive
back to be the slave on the primary IDE chain, restore LILO using the way
I've done before and it'll probably work fine, but I'm feeling particularly
masochistic about this problem and would rather use an elegant solution
instead of a short-cut. I blame it all on Microsoft. :-)
Drive configuration used to be:
- hda1 (Windows98, primary IDE chain master)
- hdbx (Linux, root was hdb7, boot was hdb1, primary IDE chain slave)
- cdrom (secondary IDE chain master)
The drive configuration is now:
- hda1 (Windows98, drive 1, primary IDE chain master)
- hdb1 (Windows98, drive 2, primary IDE chain slave)
- hdcx (Linux - all partitions on one physical drive and data still intact,
root is hdc7, boot is hdc1; secondary IDE chain master)
- cdrom (secondary IDE chain slave)
Many thanks,
Gregg
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From: ral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IBM Thinkpad 380D with linux?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:00:13 GMT
You have an IBM Thinkpad 380D running Linux? Which Linux? I'm thinking
of getting one. How much memory would you recomend (16MB from IBM seems
pretty skimpy).
Any limitation on running Linux? Any suggestions/advice?
Thank you... if you wouldn't mind, could you send me email at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks.
- Bob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: democracy?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:55:57 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 19 Jun 2000 15:19:48 GMT...
...and Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 19 Jun 2000 14:14:18 GMT, Kari Pahula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >The US is very democratic. If a clear majority of people
> > >agreed on an issue there isn't a official or corporation that could
> > >stop them from making it law. There are limits to what commercials
> > >can convince people to do, and to want.
>
> > A majority agrees on an issue and does what? Elects a representative.
> > That's no democracy, that's elect-a-king! Even the most honest and
> > righteous get corrupted by the lack of accountability. Elections
> > every few years are a way too weak guarantee for their good behavior.
> > The SIGs will have plenty of time to do their magic, serving SIGs is
> > also the best way to get enough visibility to get elected.
>
> It's slightly off-topic for this newsgroup, but I'm not entirely conv-
> inced that democracy is a Good Thing. The average voter has the
> intelligence of a dormouse, and if enough dormice get together, they
> can inflict untold savagery on their own citizens, as well as those of
> other countries. Just look at the death penalty ... :-(
Whom else do you want to reign, if not the people?
mawa
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From: torus2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: transfer kppp setting to user
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:30:12 GMT
Hi, I am using kppp in RH 6.0 (English) for the internet connection. I like
to transfer this setting to all users on my computer. It is too tedious to
set up kppp setting such as DNS, gateway, tel number for individual users.
Is there any easy way to set up this root kppp setting to all users? BTW,
kppp was set as setuid for the kppp access to all users, that is,
rwsr-xr-x.
Thanks in advance.
Torus2000
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From: Martin Racette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake 7.1 Problem
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:34:15 GMT
Hi guys,
I have a problem installing and running any Linux and the last one is=20=
Mandrake.
The problem is after the install when I try to start it using the boot=20=
disk that I just created while installing I get this:
LILO
(the message that tells me to wait or press enter to boot Linux using=20=
/dev/sdb1)
boot: (I press ENTER)
0x10
boot: Linux (I press ENTER again)
0x10
boot: Linux (so I added /dev/sdb1)
0x10
At that point I use the CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot my computer to OS/2
the setup is :
ALL HDD are SCSI
Disk 1:
Bootmanager
C: OS/2 Warp 4
Windows 98SE
Extended partition
D: , E:, F:, G: (HPFS)
Disk 2:
Linux (mount point /)
Linux swap
Extended Partition
H: (HPFS)
I: (FAT-16)
J: ,K: (HPFS)
Disk 3:=20
Not seen by Linux during installation is a ZIP100 SCSI
I would like to know how I can install and use Linux with that setup
Thank you in advance
Merci a l'avance
Martin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Get single line in shell script
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 Jun 2000 18:35:08 GMT
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:56:13 +0200, Markus Grabner said:
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm looking for a simple program that reads a single line from the
>terminal and outputs it on stdout, so I can do things like that in a
>shell script:
>
>echo "please enter your name: "
>NAME=`read_line_from_terminal`
>echo "your name is " $NAME
echo -n "please enter your name: "
read NAME
echo "your name is $NAME"
Robie.
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Reloading bookmarks error
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:42:07 -0400
I R A Darth Aggie wrote:
>
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:41:24 -0400,
> Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> + Every few minutes I get an error dialog... bookmarks on disk have
> + changes, reloading. What odes this mean? Every now and then, I add or
> + delete a bookmark, but I have only been getting this error message
> + recently.
>
> Do you have multiple instances of netscape running? that's usually where
> that comes from. Netscape doesn't always quit cleanly -- particularly
> if it has a problem with a java app.
>
> % ps -ef | grep -i netscape
>
> Thus why I fear the phrase "starting java"... :)
>
> James
> --
Well, you were right, there was another Netscape running. I have no idea
how, or why. Hopefully, this bookmark error thing will go away.
Thanks.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: /boot partition
Date: 19 Jun 2000 15:02:19 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:30:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I have been using Linux for about a year. I have always used LILO to dual
>boot WIN98/Linux. Whenever I have needed to reinstall LILO after a WIN98
>install I just use my Linux startup disk I created during installation and
>then reconfigure LILO. I have had no problems with this. I was wondering
>though how the /boot partion works. Can LILO go in there? Is it a
>partition to boot from like it sounds? What are the advantages of using
>it? How do I set it up? Thank you JH
Generally, you set up /boot as a small (20M or so) partition under the
1024 cylinder limit. This worked around problems with old BIOSes and old
versions of LILO, but it shouldn't be necessary now as the newest LILO can
boot Linux no matter where the kernel is located on the disk.
/boot traditionally contains a compressed kernel image (vmlinuz), LILO's
loading map (map) and a file containing information on all the kernel's
functions (System.map). Often, LILO is installed in the bootsector of
/boot, the /boot partition is set active, and the boot process works like
this:
0. "standard" MS-DOS MBR locates first active partition, executes its
bootsector.
1. bootsector of /boot executes some code that takes input from
the user and determines which OS you wish to boot.
2. If it's Linux, the loading map is consulted, and the compressed kernel
vmlinuz is loaded into RAM and uncompressed. The Linux kernel then takes
over, switches itself into protected mode, mounts the root filesystem,
sets the VGA or framebuffer mode, detects devices, etc.
3. If it's another OS, LILO constructs a "pseudo-MBR" to make this other
OS think that it's been booted directly.
The vmlinuz and map files can be anywhere on the disk, even in an MS-DOS
partition! The only requirement is that the BIOS of your machine be able
to read them off the disk without additional help. Putting them in /boot
is just the traditional way to do things.
Check http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/From-PowerUp-To-Bash-Prompt-HOWTO.html for
a lot of additional info on the boot process and what really goes on...
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From: Oliver Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: stability of culture of helpfulness
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:02:32 GMT
Hi,
This is a delayed crosspost that I first made to alt.os.linux. I've had
one helpful reply so far, but it would be still more help to hear a
couple more.
Although I'm neither business savvy nor computer savvy, I'm writing an
article for a trade magazine on the subject of a big company that has
chosen Linux for its very big PC cluster. The business people at this
company consider Linux a great way to save money on computer support
costs--not just because they believe it to be more trouble-free, but
because they feel they can just log onto the net and get expert free
help any time, thus eliminating the need for most of their support
staff.
I have a couple questions:
1)Does this make sense--that they could reduce their support staff? (and
if so, by how much? if anybody cares to make an estimate.)
2) Is this culture of on-line helpfulness impervious to a)increasing
numbers of Linux users, b)increasing numbers of queries from Linux users
at companies who--it might be perceived--could afford to hire people to
generate in-house the answers they are instead getting through the
kindness of strangers.
So far, one person has said it doesn't matter what the affliation is of
who is asking (though their perceived attitude does).
I'd be grateful for any comments.
- Oliver Baker
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: ftp welcome messages
Date: 19 Jun 2000 15:09:45 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:08:34 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<8ilk2a$pop$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Hi,
>
> I am running wu-ftpd and would like to know
> what file I should edit in order to have a
> customized ftp welcome message when people
> ftp in.
>
> Any information will be very helpful.
The first few lines of ~/README* are read and displayed when a user logs
in with the default config of wu-ftpd. If you "man 5 ftpaccess" then you
will see ways to configure this. However, you must start wu.ftpd with the
-a option to enable it to read the ftpaccess file.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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