Linux-Misc Digest #864, Volume #26 Sat, 20 Jan 01 06:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux not free anymore? (Peter Mitchell)
Re: free long distance on linux? (Jeff Strunk)
Re: How do I change cd-rom from d: to e: (Peter Mitchell)
Re: Linux on a 64MB flash disk (Jeff Strunk)
Re: Can I use RAID 0 for HPT370? ("Igor Fedulov")
Locked directories under Mandrake 7.2 ("Drew")
Re: How to create .dat file for fortune? (Bryan Hoyt)
Re: Why do I get auto-logged-out of my telnet session? (David Bennion)
pkgadd, pkginfo, ... (Diether De Praetere)
what is the "daemon" in /etc/rc.d/init.d/* (Raymond Li)
Re: updatedb eating up RAM and doesn't free up (Michael Heiming)
Re: X no longer works after Glibc update ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LQ 670 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 3c905 at kernel 2.4 (Tobias Schenk)
Re: Help, Urgent! Partition Table screwed up, Want bruteforce recovery (Svend Olaf
Mikkelsen)
Re: why can't i find any good GUI file managers? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors?? ("Flacco")
Re: from Microsoft solutions to Java on linux ("Flacco")
Re: I need more info and here are some hints. Re: Linux not free anymore? ("Flacco")
Re: Bios upgrade in linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Bios upgrade in linux (John Thompson)
Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors?? (Steve Lamb)
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From: Peter Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux not free anymore?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 05:58:43 GMT
Moving off-topic a bit..
In England a few centuries back you had to pay rent (to the Crown) on
all freehold properties. The point of a freehold was that it could be
inherited or sold. (Land owned in some other ways could not be sold).
There have been taxes on many things in the past - even windows (in
buildings, not computers).
The BIG question - what makes a tax fair?
Peter
> In Norway, we aren't as lucky. We *do* pay tax for the "benefit of
owning
> your own house". Arggh!
>
> --
> Bj�rn-Helge Mevik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
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From: Jeff Strunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: free long distance on linux?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:10:48 +0000
go2call.com,who also allows calls to international phones, plans to add linux and mac
support "soon." Then again, they aren't free either, but they are the closest thing to
what you are looking for that i have found.
They were not very informative when i asked them when their expected release date is.
oh, well
we can only hope,
Jeff
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:11:15 -0500
"Sudhakar R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> With the increasing number of sites offering free long distance PC to
> phone calls...I was wondering whether anyone has come across any such
site
> which supports Linux.
>
> Then, I don't have to reboot to Windows just to make a call!
>
> Any info will be highly appreciated.
> Thanx in advance
> -sud
>
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From: Peter Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I change cd-rom from d: to e:
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 06:07:22 GMT
A nasty work-around that might work.
Put a small (1M) DOS partition on your second disk.
It might need to be the first partition.
My system doesn't need it, even though my second drive is all Linux.
A thought - on mine the CD is hdb and the second drive is hdc. Does
having it the other way round cause the problem?
Peter
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From: Jeff Strunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.embedded
Subject: Re: Linux on a 64MB flash disk
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:37:41 +0000
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:35:33 -0500
"Buzz Lightyear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm about to install Linux on a PC/104 card with a 64MB flash disk.
BTW, just in case someone doesn't know, Flash has a limit to the amount of writes or
erases it can do. If you use ext2fs, your flash will be useless in weeks. I have an
Agenda
PDA(runs linux :) ) it uses JFFS. it uses journaling so it will take longer to break
the flash.
www.agendacomputing.com
currently in open development among those who signed up for the developer edition.
It should be ready in late 1q or early 2q.
Jeff
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From: "Igor Fedulov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Can I use RAID 0 for HPT370?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:44:03 -0600
> I would like to know if I can use RAID 0 for my machine in Linux.
> My controller is HPT370. When I boot Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD ROM, it
does
> detect my chipset but it fails to detect my Windows 2000 partition which
is
> using RAID 0.
> Can anyone kindly help me solve the problem?
AFAIK HPT370 supports only software raid, thus you probably held with no
support. What I did was kinda lame but it works for my purposes. I installed
REDHAT and then installed VMWARE which running Windows 2000 for me.
Igor
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From: "Drew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Locked directories under Mandrake 7.2
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:10:24 -0800
I'm running Mandrake 7.2 on an AMD Duron. After several months of no
problems, I suddenly have a lock symbol on the directories /mnt/cdrom and
/mnt/floppy, and canno mount or otherwise access that directory.
Haven't the slightest idea what caused this and have found no info with
searches of the web using "locked files" or "locked directories" etc. Have
found no info in the Linux books or Mandrake or KDE user guides, including
Konquerer guide.
I noted that if I remark out the cdrom line in /etc/fstab and reboot, the
/mnt/cdrom directory will come up with the lock icon missing that was on top
of the cdrom directory icon, and I can mount the cdrom and see its contents.
But if I " unremark the cdrom line in fstab and reboot, the /mnt/cdrom again
comes up locked with the lock icon showing and I cannot access the cdrom.
Has anyone ever seen this before and know how to clear this lock?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bryan Hoyt)
Subject: Re: How to create .dat file for fortune?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 07:33:13 GMT
Who ever said Claus Atzenbeck couldn't write what follows?:
>I have a ASCII file with quotes for fortune.
>How can I create a .dat file from this ASCII file to use it with fortune?
>
>Thanks for your help!
>Claus.
Run the "strfile" command on the file.
--
Bryan Hoyt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.crosswinds.net/~artmusic
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If computers get too powerful, we can organize
them into a committee -- that will do them in.
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From: David Bennion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Why do I get auto-logged-out of my telnet session?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:14:26 GMT
Are you maybe going through a proxy or a network device that kills long
term in-bound connections?
In article <94a9po$4cm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm running RedHat 6.2 on a PIII-700. Whenever I telnet OR ssh into
> that box, then leave the sessions idle for some amount of time (maybe
> 1.5 - 2 hours), I get auto-logged-out.
>
> Actually, maybe that's not quite it. When I return to the ssh/telnet
> window, it doesn't say that I've lost my connection... at least not
> yet. But as soon as I begin to type something, it immediately gives
me
> a "Connection lost" message.
>
> I thought maybe it was a feature of my telnet/ssh client (Tera Term
> Pro), but I get the same result with other clients. So it seems to be
> server-side.
>
> Next I thought maybe there was some shell setting that was doing it.
> But my login shell is tcsh - a version I compiled WITHOUT the auto-
> logout feature. (i.e. "echo $version" does NOT show the two
> character "al" option, which would indicate auto-logout support). To
> be safe, I even "set autologout = 600" (i.e. 10 hours) - but that made
> no difference. So I don't think it's tcsh-related.
>
> What else could it be? And how can I disable it, or at least stretch
> the inactivity time to something much more suitable to me?
>
> Thanks to anyone who can help.
>
> Sent via Deja.com
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>
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From: Diether De Praetere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: pkgadd, pkginfo, ...
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:28:00 +0100
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Hello,
I've got a question realted to installing packages with pkgadd,
pkginfo, etc... (no (s)rpm's)
We have here shell scripts to install some in-house software and
apparently they use pkgadd. But my Redhat doesn't have these commands
available... I did some searches on the web, but they seem to be hard to
find for linux.
OK, I know Sol. supports this, but I need them on linux.
Thx,
Diether
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From: Raymond Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what is the "daemon" in /etc/rc.d/init.d/*
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:26:09 +0800
Hello,
When I try to setup or amend scripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ to let my
program startup automatically, I found the scripts there often use
"daemon foo". I tried to man the daemon, but found nothing. And it
doesn't seem to be a command. What is it? Is it an alias?
Thanks!
Yours,
Raymond
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:49:13 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: updatedb eating up RAM and doesn't free up
SoohEph wrote:
> I have RH 7.0 and once a day it will run something called "updatedb"
> and spawn other little processes such as "slocate".
>
> Before "updatedb" runs I have plenty of memory left(about 50M free)
> and gradually from TOP I can see updatedb eating up memory and
> eventually the process takes up a max. of 30M !!
>
> That's OK but the BIG problem is that when the process finishes
> something is still taking up the 30M and won't release it until I
> reboot !!
>
> This is really an annoying and mysterious problem.
>
> I suspect the updatedb and slocate....etc processes come from the
> three processes anacron, atd, and crond running at boot time. Do
> I really need them ? If I do is there anyway to tell updatedb
> script to free up memory once it finishes doing what it's supposed to ?
>
> thanks
>
> Sent via Deja.com
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Hello,
it's as others pointed out, nothing to worry about, it's just that Linux
approach:
You've paid for all that RAM, so I will use it, I've even seen this on
machines with 1 GB of RAM,
Linux takes it all in a short time after reboot, but the biggest part is
taken for buffering/caching and will
be dynamically given to new apps started if they need it.
Run:
xosview +net +disk &
you get a small X app, with nice graphs, you can watch how the kernel
handles memory, it's not like OS
made in Redmond you have to reboot, because they can't free memory, I had
to live with it for some time
developing MS sw (NT 4.0), rebooting once a day was normal...:-(
Nice weekend
Michael Heiming
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: X no longer works after Glibc update
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:16:52 +0000
Sorry all. Solved it. Usual situation. Many hours trying stupid bloody
things but didn't try the obvious. /etc/ld.so.conf file was blanked by
failed upgrade so I copied back /etc/ld.so.conf.rpmsave over it and
updated again. Now works fine
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:26:15 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>My redhat 7 system has been fine until I updated to latest
>glibc-2.2-12. When I try to run starx I now get the following:
>"xauth:error while loading shared libraries: libXmu.so.6: cannot load
>shared object file: no such file or directory" error followed by
>similar xinit error and X will not start. File libXmu.so.6 exists in
>/usr/X11R6/lib as a symbolic link to libXmu.so.6.1. Somehow I must
>have cocked up the rpm upgrade but don't know how. Has anyone any
>suggestions??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LQ 670
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:22:48 GMT
Puchta Milos wrote:
>
> Has anyone installed Epson LQ 670 printer? It is not on the HOWTO list
> and is expected to have a workable equivalent....
>
> TIA
> Milos
This uses the Epson printer driver. You don't give much information such
as Linux type being used or anything. A lot of Linux distros don't
include Espson (dot matrix printer) support in the ghostscript they
provide. If you are using apsfilter and you setup for the Epson printer
and ghostscript gives you the error message saying 'printer not found'
you have to download and compile ghostscript yourself.
jamess
--
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
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From: Tobias Schenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3c905 at kernel 2.4
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:39:43 +0100
On 19 Jan 2001 22:29:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (�smund �deg�rd)
wrote:
>
>That must be wrong. I am using the same kernel with 3c905C cards.
Problems begin when selecting a NIC in 'make menuconfig'. There is no
3c905. Now I will try to use 3c590. But I didnt know this could work
or how to insert a driver from 2.2.14 into the 2.4 tree.
Because I am only used to SuSE Linux it was a greater step to download
a kernel from kernel.org.
Tobias
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Help, Urgent! Partition Table screwed up, Want bruteforce recovery
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:41:56 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm in a terrible situation now. I lost my entire linux partition. All
>my work is buried in there. I just can't lost it.
>
>The only thing I can think of is to bruteforce recover it. Because the
>partition I lost is in the 2nd HD (hdb), it get similar partition as the
>first one (hda).
>
>The disarster started like this. I installed Mandrake on my first HD,
>not touching anything on my 2nd HD. But still being a newbie to linux
>configuration, I couldn't start my RH6 on my 2nd HD, which has Lilo
>written in the boot sector. So I had to turned to windows for help.
>
>But my windows98 almost freeze up but a new unkown E: drive. So, I was
>folish enough to use dos format trying to format it but after failed
>doing so, I used fdisk to delete the E: drive. After I found that I lost
>my linux partition, I told my friend about it. He said he has met
>similar situation -- after installing Mandrake, all his Linux partion
>started showing up as dos drives in he windows2000. He was lucky that
>those extra drives didn't freeze up the windows, just move his drive
>mapping around. Then I realize that I've made a terrible mistake.
>
>Now my /dev/hdb5 is gone, and I have no other troices but to recover it.
>My estimation of the situation is that (from easy to recover to
>difficult to recover)
>
>- the partition has been changed by dos fdisk. I hope I can use fdisk
>under linux to change it back to what it originally is, based on the
>info from my hda, plus bruteforce trying. My first questions are:
>
>* how to back up the MBR and the disk partition (under linux)
>
>* is there a quick way for linux (RH6.2) to notice the change of the
>partition without rebooting?
>
>- The first several sectors of my /dev/hdb5 might be damaged by dos
>fdisk. what are those first sectors? Can I duplicate from my hda5 to my
>hdb5, just for a quick-n-dirty hack to get it going? How should I back
>it up first and do the duplication?
>
>Please, Please help me, it will still save my time if I do the
>bruteforce recover for 3 days than rebuilding everything that I had. I
>really hope you reach out your warm hands to help this poor fellow.
>Thanks a thousand to share your comments, suggestions, considerations,
>etc.
>
>FYI, here is the info of my hda, and my hdb is partitioned exactly like
>it, with the sector number might be little different.
>
>
>Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2491 cylinders
>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
>/dev/hda1 1 64 514048+ 93 Amoeba
>/dev/hda2 65 319 2048287+ 93 Amoeba
>/dev/hda3 320 1057 5927985 1c Hidden Win95 FAT32
>(LBA)
>/dev/hda4 1058 2491 11518605 f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
>/dev/hda5 1058 2030 7815591 83 Linux
>/dev/hda6 2031 2491 3702951 c Win95 FAT32
>(LBA)
You can get Findpart at http://inet.uni2.dk/~svolaf/utilities.htm
do from DOS or Windows:
findpart all fp.txt
and mail me the file fp.txt and a direct email-adress.
--
Svend Olaf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: why can't i find any good GUI file managers?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:48:41 GMT
Pawel Golik wrote:
>
> dom wrote:
>
> > I use XWC (XWIN Commander) Very simple interface, stable, fast, looks alot
> > like that ole windows explorer (please forgive me :-)
>
> Be careful about XWC - I lost data twice due to it!! It seems to have a
> bug that drops some files if you copy large (thousands of files)
> directories. It doesn't give any warning, just when you look at the
> supposedly copied directory you notice that some files are missing.
> Happened to me twice on two different systems (only with directories
> containing really lots of files, like linux source tree). No problems if
> you copy individual files, but you can do that faster winth command line.
> Pawel
xfm does this too. The safest way I know to copy large file directories
is with the shell and the cp command.
jamess
--
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
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From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors??
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 04:58:56 -0500
I seem to have no luck finding a decent WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux. In
particular, it must be good with frames and tables (so Mozilla's out).
Any recommendations?
Thanks
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From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: from Microsoft solutions to Java on linux
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 05:04:00 -0500
Hello Bindou -
"Bindou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:949d2a$r2d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all,
> I am very new to java being more involved in vb,Mts and sql 7 (microsoft)
> side. I would like to switch to programming on linux using java but i am
> unsure if i have the same type of architecture on linux/java.Here are
some
> points that i would like to know if i can do it on linux/java:
> I use:
> 1. vb to program my "business objects" which is essentially an activex
dll
> which contains all the business rules.
> 2. Microsot transaction server (MTS) in order to set the transaction
> properties of the various objects
> 3. MsDtc to handle my connection to remote sql server database
> 4. Active Server Pages for front end or Sometime a vb exe
>
> In summary the famous "N-tier".Well i would to know the pros and cons on
> switching to java/linux specially the tools available and the time
involved
> for development.
No information for you, just want to let you know that I'm pursuing the same
course.
I've worked with VB/MTS/SQL7/IIS/ASP in the past, and have made a commitment
to learn Linux and Java with the hope of eventually transferring as much of
my work as possible to open source / cross platform technologies.
I've just started, and currently I'm still learning the Java language (much
less the class libraries), and getting acquainted with the Unix/Linux world.
Getting up to speed on Java application servers etc. is a bit in the future
for me.
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From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need more info and here are some hints. Re: Linux not free anymore?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 05:06:56 -0500
> > They decided the tax to be based on the Windows NT Server ( around
1000$) price.
> > I think that Linux community should react. Polish tax officces should be
> > internationally accused.
> > Rafael
>
> Yes, I've heard of it.
>
> The idea of the "bright" Polish tax office is to tax, not by its price
> but for its value.
I had an e-mail exchange with someone in the Ukraine about their utterly
insane tax policies. I think some of the former Soviet-bloc countries
simply don't have a clue.
Also, taxes, or enforcement of tax collection, is used as a political weapon
in some of these places.
< ... blessing #4593, blessing #4594, blessing #4595,... >
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bios upgrade in linux
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:25:26 GMT
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David wrote:
>>
>> Warren Bell wrote:
>> >
>> > I want to upgrade my bios on a machine that's just running Linux. The
>> > MB company has the flash utility and the .bin file but the utility is an
>> > .exe file. How do I boot to and run that to upgrade the bios under
>> > Linux?
>>
>> Boot with a windoz/DOS boot disk and run it from the command line should
>> work if the upgrade files will fit on a floppy.
> What if you do not have a Windows or DOS boot disk because you have no
> Microsoft software and no license? I.e., what if you really have a
> Linux-only system?
The first disk of the dos 6.2 install set works fine as a boot disk.
Just say no when asked if you want to install. It'll leave you at the
A> prompt.
And then you can go and install freedos. I vaguely recall a flasher
that worked from linux too. But this is not something you want to try
in anything but the most tandard of ways!
Peter
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bios upgrade in linux
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:23:01 -0600
Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> David wrote:
> >
> > Warren Bell wrote:
> > >
> > > I want to upgrade my bios on a machine that's just running Linux. The
> > > MB company has the flash utility and the .bin file but the utility is an
> > > .exe file. How do I boot to and run that to upgrade the bios under
> > > Linux?
> >
> > Boot with a windoz/DOS boot disk and run it from the command line should
> > work if the upgrade files will fit on a floppy.
> What if you do not have a Windows or DOS boot disk because you have no
> Microsoft software and no license? I.e., what if you really have a
> Linux-only system?
Go to Caldera's web site and pick up the free bootable DR-DOS
diskette images.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors??
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:38:27 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 04:58:56 -0500, Flacco
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I seem to have no luck finding a decent WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux. In
>particular, it must be good with frames and tables (so Mozilla's out).
>Any recommendations?
Dreamweaver in VMWare? :)
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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