Linux-Misc Digest #869, Volume #19 Fri, 16 Apr 99 18:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: gcc >=2.8 for RedHat ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: When is RedHat 5.3 coming?? (garv)
LINUX 2 UNIX ("John J. Straumann")
Re: Opinions on KDE? (jik-)
Re: Printer-problem (jik-)
Re: Linux IP (Jim Howes)
Re: VNC ("K.R. \"Sherm\" Schuerman")
Re: Best Cheapbytes CDRom (Jason McKnight)
Re: parallel port (Edward A. Baron)
How do I make a bootable RH CD? (SPARC & x86) (Thomas Adams)
Re: modem questions (James Lee)
Re: Radius Parser program (brian moore)
Re: Email with Earthlink, Sendmail, exmh, mh, Linux libc5 (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Re: Opinions on KDE? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: StarOffice and fonts -help!! (Jim McCusker)
Re: Newtwork - Linux & Win98 (Jason McKnight)
Re: xinit: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6 <--what does it mean and how do i fx it?
("Mulder")
Re: top: CPU States: 119% (brian moore)
Re: Help - LILO screwed up (CIMEBOAT)
Re: mysql install ok, cannot connect to server? (Jason McKnight)
Linux version of autoexec.bat (Carl Davis)
Re: Color problem when Running Cadence on Linux (Tony Laundrie)
Q : syslogd message after ppp connect? ("John Doe")
Re: Anybody have Linux 1.2.13 CD's? (John Girash)
VNC (Mark Adams)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Roberto Alsina)
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? ("Bill Frisbee")
Re: Opinions on KDE? (Bruce Ritchie)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: gcc >=2.8 for RedHat
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:34:38 GMT
Dirk Borchers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anybody know where I can get it from? Compiling the source from
Get egcs instead. All development effort on gcc seems to have switched to
it. You can get it as redhat RPM's.
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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: When is RedHat 5.3 coming??
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:52:15 -0700
Al Dev wrote:
> I heard RedHat would be releasing RH 5.3 during 1st week of april.
> Linux with new kernel version 2.2 (SMP).
>
> It will be 6.0 on May 1, 1999
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From: "John J. Straumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LINUX 2 UNIX
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:05:30 GMT
Hey all:
Will C programs compiled under LINUX run under UNIX? I am asking because
I am developing some CGIs, and I am getting some strange errors when I
transfer them to my Web Server (they run fine under Linux when I access
the Linux server via my internal network). Before I go through a bunch
of dead ends I thought I better find out if the compiled code is
compatible...
TIA.
John.
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:26:38 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Charles Coombs wrote:
>
> I just installed KDE (building from the source, took 6 hours!) the
> other day and I am pleasently surprised by the whole thing. Overall
> it has more potential than the Win95 GUI because it is so
> configurable.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Do most of you use it? If not why?
Because I have no real use for it, and I didn't really like most of the
things about it. It is nice to have system wide drag and drop, but I
don't need KDE for that anyway.
>
> 2. Is the Q library on which KDE is built used for much else?
Actually, yes, I have seen quite a few things outside of KDE which use
Qt.
>
> Later,
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Charles Coombs - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project Engineer
> Applied Systems Intelligence, Inc.
> (770) 518-4228
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:28:43 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printer-problem
Sverre Andreas Larssen wrote:
>
> I have a Canon bjc 620 which worked fine until I compiled the kernel
> (RH5.1-2.0.35)
> After the new kernel was installed linux won't talk to lp1 anymore :(
>
> If I try to install a printer under the control-panel, the response is
> lp0,lp1 and lp2
> not detected. lp1 is the par.port to the printer.
>
> Any suggestions on how to solve this ?
You probably did not compile in paralel support. You can compile it
into the kernel, or as a module.
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From: Jim Howes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux IP
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:57:59 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Any numbers on send/receive rates ?
>
>
Yes, 7, 19, 22, 34, 41 and 46; and the bonus ball was 4.
What numbers in particular are you looking for, on what network
media, with what type of data?
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From: "K.R. \"Sherm\" Schuerman" <sherm @ rednecks.com>
Subject: Re: VNC
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:54:38 -0500
Reply-To: "K.R. \"Sherm\" Schuerman" <sherm @ rednecks.com>
I'm running the same without any trouble. However there is a problem with
certain versions of VNC on RH5.2 This is documented at
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ in the FAQ and requires a change to the
script "/usr/X11R6/bin/vncserver"
If you run "vncserver" and it returns your hostname with a desktop number
":1" (for the first desktop)
Start the Win32 VNCviewer on your NT workstation and enter the hostname (or
IP) followed by the desktop number. "192.168.2.1:1" or "hostname:1"
I've never had to do anything as far as ports are concerned.
Sherm <><
sherm @ rednecks.com
Mark Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have installed a VNC server on a RHL 5.2 box and am trying to connect
> to it using a Viewer on an NT 4 SP3 box. However, it fails to connect
> every time. Both hosts can ping each other, but I can't telnet to port
> 5900 or 5901 on the Linux box (the port the vncserver uses). Do I need
> to enable this port? If so, how?
>
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From: Jason McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Cheapbytes CDRom
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:35:19 -0400
WindowMaker is included on the CD, but is not installed by default if you
choose the custom or server installation.
Glenn Ward wrote:
> Do they include window managers as well, like enlight./windowmaker?
> Is anything else included on the cd's? I've seen some disti's (Caldera?)
> with lots of extras on the cd - quicktime viewers, realaudio, etc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward A. Baron)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: parallel port
Date: 16 Apr 1999 15:41:24 GMT
Jonas Arndt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Edward A. Baron wrote:
: > I'm trying to get my version of RH 5.2 kernel 2.2.5
: > to recognize my parallel port and need some help.
: >
: > I've compiled the kernel with parport, parport_pc
: > and parport_probe as modules
: >
: > I assume when I do a modprobe lp
: > everything gets loaded
: >
: > I've read parport.txt and edited conf.modules
: > with
: >
: > io=0x3f8 irq=auto
: >
: > and also tried irq=7
: >
: > to no avail.
: >
: > any hints?
: >
: > please email replies.
: >
: > thanks,
: >
: > -ed baron
: >
I took a good careful look at paraport.txt
and realized that /prop/parport didn't exist
finally i discovered a bug in my conf.modules
i had i0= rather than io=
I also did an explicit
modprobe lp and carefully read /var/log/messages
which gave me the clues.
it all works now. On to sound....
-ed baron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Adams)
Subject: How do I make a bootable RH CD? (SPARC & x86)
Date: 16 Apr 1999 16:14:22 GMT
Can anybody tell me how I can make a bootable CDROM from a RedHat mirror?
I'm mainly interested in the SPARC Linux from RH, but would like to know how
to do it for the x86 CPU as well.
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From: James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem questions
Date: 16 Apr 1999 10:26:18 -0500
Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: upon trying to dial up my modem it goes off into never never land for
: between 5 and 8 minutes then it dials out and just hangs up. it will not
: access my ISP or respond in any other way. from my limited knowledge I have
: checked and the modem is set to the correct port. (com 3 = cua2, or ttys2).
: i amnot sure what to do to fix this.
Might be some kind of IRQ conflict.
: On netscape:
: 1. when i enter a URL in the locaition box (http://www.the-den.com) an error
: box pops up. "Unable to locate server www.the-den.com the server doesn not
: have a DNS entry". What is it that the program wants and where do i send
: it this information???????
That is because it has no access to a domain name server, a server the
translates domain names like www.the-den.com to an actual IP address.
This could be due to (a) you haven't got a ppp/slip connection
setup, or (b) you haven't specified a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf.
You need to setup the modem to work correctly first, and then
add in the nameserver IP address using the network configuration tool
in your control-panel of RH.
The problem is the same for mail and news as well.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Radius Parser program
Date: 16 Apr 1999 20:48:18 GMT
On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:32:20 +0000,
Kerry J. Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I posted here some time ago and got a few responses. I'm looking for
> some sort of log parser that would allow me to input a variable, either
> command line or GUI, such as a username or IP address and then have it
> parse through my Radius detail logs and find those people that meet that
> criteria. Any one know of any open-source programs that would allow me
> to track log-in time, IP addresses, usernames, and the like using
> Livingston radius logs?
Well, not that allow input and such: most just take the detail files and
mangle them into something easier to grep.
There are a few linked on Livingston's web page. The one I use is a
hack of 'lineparser' that is on theirs (to handle a bit more output, and
some flexibility in the names of some of the fields). [Okay, so it
doesn't look much like the original, but it's a lot faster now. :)]
Here's a simple one:
#!/usr/bin/perl
$/ = "\n\n";
while(<STDIN>) {
print $_ if /$ARGV[0]/;
}
Slightly more complex is the lineparser I use. Combine it with grep and
you should have what you want.
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
#
# handy-dandy RADIUS log parser.... you may want to change the strings to
# match your dictionary, etc.
#
# feed it stdin, or specify detail files on the command line.
#
# yep, it's funny looking, but it's faster than the original
'lineparser'.
$/ = '';
@months = (
'Jan', 'Feb', 'Mar', 'Apr', 'May', 'Jun',
'Jul', 'Aug', 'Sep', 'Oct', 'Nov', 'Dec' );
$i = 1;
foreach $m (@months) {
$m_to_num{$m} = $i++;
}
while (<>) {
next if /^\tAcct-Status-Type = Start$/m; # skip start records
($username) = /^\tUser-Name = "(\w+)"$/m;
($id) = /^\tAcct-Session-Id = "(\w+)"$/m;
($port) = /^\t(?:Client|NAS)-Port(?:-Id)? = (\d+)$/m;
($service) = /^\t(?:User-)?Service-Type = (\S+)$/m;
$service = ($service eq 'Framed-User') ?
( ($ip) = /^\tFramed(?:-IP)?-Address = (\S+)$/m,
'net' ) :
( ($ip) = /^\tLogin(?:-IP)?-Host = (\S*)$/m,
'log' );
($time) = /^\tAcct-Session-Time = (\d+)$/m;
($reason) = /^\tAcct-Terminate-Cause = (\S+)$/m;
($input) = /^\tAcct-Input-Octets = (\d+)$/m;
($output) = /^\tAcct-Output-Octets = (\d+)$/m;
if (/^[A-Z]/) {
($wday, $month, $mday, $daytime, $year) = split(' ', $_, 5);
$month = $m_to_num{$month}; # convert to numeric
$year =~ s/^..//; # strip off century
$date = sprintf("%2.2d/%2.2d/%2.2d",
$month, $mday, $year);
}
if ( not $seen{$id} ) {
$seen{$id} = 1;
printf("%-8.8s %-8.8s %-8.8s" .
" %-7.7s %-2.2d %-3.3s %-15.18s" .
" %8s %8s %10s\n",
$date, $daytime, $username,
$time, $port, $service, $ip,
$input + 0, $output + 0, $reason);
}
}
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Crossposted-To:
comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.mh,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Email with Earthlink, Sendmail, exmh, mh, Linux libc5
Date: 16 Apr 1999 19:39:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Clifton T. Sharp Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Keven R. Pittsinger wrote:
>> Here's a sample returned mail:
>> [snip]
>> ... while talking to pompano.pcola.gulf.net.:
>> >>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> <<< 550 Access denied
>> 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable
>
> Your address isn't [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Earthlink's mail server
> knows it. Use your real address.
No kidding. Why you think I asked if anybody had working sendmail.cf's
and mtstailor files for Earthlink? I do *NOT* understand sendmail.
Keven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Date: 16 Apr 1999 12:03:56 -0400
Christian Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 1. Do most of you use it? If not why?
yes, on 1 system with 96M, on my other 2 (64M and 32M), no way, KDE
needs 32M, guess I'll make sure my next system has 256M, 25G of HD
space, and 500MHZ processor.
> >
> > 2. Is the Q library on which KDE is built used for much else?
No, unless they are KDE appls
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From: Jim McCusker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice and fonts -help!!
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:47:58 -0400
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
>
> Dr Ian Vince McLoughlin wrote:
>
> > I've got SO5.0, and the fonts are awful
> > --if I'm doing a presentation with 100 point text, I don't want such blocky
> > letters,
> > in fact I don't know why it's so bad.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestion? How to fix the blocky characters etc...
> >
> > Please also send my any reply directly;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Thanks in advance and regards,
> > Ian McLoughlin
>
> I've got a similar problem, and I know how you feel. Especially when using
> the spreadsheet, if I change a font, the screen won't refresh with the new
> font, even though everywhere it says I've changed it. But there's much worse
> that comes from this... If I print it (and I presume it will do the same for
> presentations), the old fonts remain, no matter what I do. So far I haven't
> found a run-around to this solution, even with 5.0.1, but I'll keep working on
> it and let you know as soon as possible.
This is because the standard fonts that come with X are pretty much
crap. Try out xfstt(it's a truetype font server), available through
http://www.freshmeat.net (just search for it). These display much more
nicely, and are very scalable. It takes a couple of tricks to get them
running, and it doesn't come with any fonts, but
http://users.skynet.be/micheyva/main.html has plenty there.
Jim
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Spencer
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From: Jason McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newtwork - Linux & Win98
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:48:00 -0400
The best thing to do is get the latest SAMBA from samba.org and read the
docs. They are very good. Be sure to read ENCRYPTION.txt as it pertains
to Win98.
Also, once you get done. Don't forget to enable your users by using
smbpasswd -e username
Good Luck!
P.S. I have a Samba server with 23 people connected and it runs great!
Jason McKnight
PMMA wrote:
> Hi
>
> Could anyone tell me how to setup a 2 PC network between Linux & Win
> 98 (Samba config. too). I would also apreciate if you tell me the URL
> of some online material which explains this.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> PMMA
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From: "Mulder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: xinit: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6 <--what does it mean and how do i
fx it?
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:55:46 GMT
thank you for your help
btw, if outlook is posting html, i don't know what to do, i checked all the
settings and everything is set to plain text...
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> Turn of HTML posting,
> and install x332bin.tgz from slakware/x1 disk
> Maybe you need more from there check the file "Packages" from slackware
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> marked with "ADD"
>
> You find the files above in ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/slackware-3.6
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: top: CPU States: 119%
Date: 16 Apr 1999 20:55:40 GMT
On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:05:07 -0400,
Jason McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a dual processor system and was compiling some software the other
> day when I noticed the above message from top. (Kernel 2.2.5- SMP
> enabled)
>
> Does that mean:
>
> Top is not calculating CPU usage correctly
> or
> Linux uses the 1st processor until it is at 100% capacity (i doubt that)
>
> or
> My percentage will go to 200% since I have two processors.
The last one is the winner.
200% is full capacity on a dual cpu system.
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Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CIMEBOAT)
Subject: Re: Help - LILO screwed up
Date: 16 Apr 1999 16:15:17 GMT
Boot with your win98 sart disk and do fdisk /mbr @ A:\
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From: Jason McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mysql install ok, cannot connect to server?
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:53:34 -0400
have you run the mysql_install_db script yet?
Read the docs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am trying to get mySQL installed on Linux 5.1 and after the rpm install of
> the server, client, and development packages when I try to issue the
> "mysqladmin shutdown" command, I get the following error:
>
> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
> error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)'
>
> What does this mean? Where is it getting the localhost from, is this just the
> default? How can I change this...do I want to change this? Did I miss
> something when installing Linux (I am newbie to Linux...worked with UNIX for
> over 6 years).
>
> Not sure if this is the right news group for this question, but I did not see
> a mySQL news group out there....and I did see some posts in this news group
> regarding mySQL.
>
> Thanks for any help getting this working!
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Davis)
Subject: Linux version of autoexec.bat
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:00:39 GMT
What file would act like the autoexec.bat file?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Laundrie)
Crossposted-To: comp.cad.cadence,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Color problem when Running Cadence on Linux
Date: 16 Apr 1999 14:05:34 GMT
It's not a Linux problem. Our colors look very different on a Sun workstation
vs. a Silicon Graphics workstation, no matter where you actually run Cadence.
You'll probably want to have separate color display information files for
each monitor type. We use 4.4, and the display.drf file used with a Sun
has the RGB intensities of some colors in the palette turned up so they'll
be seen better on a black background.
With 4.4, you can just copy the appropriate display.drf file into your
working directory before starting Cadence. With 4.3, your default technology
files could have color information set for the at-work monitors, then when
running elsewhere, some Skill code in your .cdsinit file could compile
a small technology file containing a new color pallette for each library.
Tony Laundrie
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From: "John Doe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q : syslogd message after ppp connect?
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:36:15 -0400
I'm a fairly new user. I got a ppp connection running and automated via the
ppp-on / ppp-off scripts. One thing I am getting however is that when the
connection is made that a message comes flying from somewhere that I would
like suppressed (as well as maybe understanding where its coming from to
begin with). Example:
Message from syslogd at <day, date, time>...
localhost
To my limited knowledge, nothing I have put in the dial up scripts are
generating messages, so is such a result of the ip-up script or something?
How can I disable this message? Thanks in advance.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Remove the anti-spam text for e-mail reply.
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anybody have Linux 1.2.13 CD's?
Date: 16 Apr 1999 17:35:38 -0500
Tim Hutcheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Does anybody have an old set of Linux 1.2.13 CD's laying about? I need them
: for compatibility with a circa 1995 project that is dependent on certain
: artifacts of that release (or closely related version)..
The 1.2.13 kernel should still be easily available, e.g. on kernel.org .
If you need a release based on 1.2.x, I've still got Slackware 2.3 around;
it had kernel 1.2.8. I've got the A-, N-, F- and some of D-disksets on
floopy, and the rest on tape.
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From: Mark Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VNC
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:01:56 -0500
I have installed a VNC server on a RHL 5.2 box and am trying to connect
to it using a Viewer on an NT 4 SP3 box. However, it fails to connect
every time. Both hosts can ping each other, but I can't telnet to port
5900 or 5901 on the Linux box (the port the vncserver uses). Do I need
to enable this port? If so, how?
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:27:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 15 Apr 1999 00:37:55 PDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >... I haven't found the same capability with X apps.
> >It's either not there, must be enabled somehow, or operates differently than
> >I'm used to, and I haven't figured it out yet. For example, most Windows
> >apps will have a highlighted "OK" button, or similar, always operated by the
> >enter/return key. Not so with my KDE stuff, I have to go to the mouse.
>
> then that asys KDE isn't as good as CDE.
If there is any dialog that doesn't have a default action bound to
the return key, it's a bug. Please report it at bugs.kde.org.
> CDE stuff is generally mouse-navigatable.
> But it helps to have a keybinding for "jump to next window", no matter what
> window manager you have.
Uh... "OK" usually means something very different from "jump to next window".
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From: "Bill Frisbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:10:32 -0400
Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7f5c59$iv4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Not really. There's only one right now and it's mostly for the two
> Windows-only software packages I use at work and therefore need at
> home as well. I now do almost everything else in Linux.
How quaint. I however like the newest and best hardware... neither of which
Linux supports (read this as the Voodoo3 AGP, the SoundBlaster Live, USB
mice, keyboards and joysticks, dual monitors on two video cards, DVD MPEG
harware playback and last but not least 2 RAID cards. Till linux supports
ALL of these, it is useless to me, plus I cannot play X-Wing Alliance,
Half-Life, Baldur's Gate, European Air War, WW2 Fighters, SDOE, or Combat
Flight Sim on linux...
> No, these folks (or their parents, roommates, etc.) actually tend to
> have very nice hardware, often their parents' 450MHz Dells or Gateways
> that they've set up to dual-boot Windows for their parents and Linux
> for themselves, and/or nice Solaris or *BSD workstations at school. I
> would love to have some of the stuff these kids use nowadays!
How very true, however only 5% of those students are using Linux.
> As for compromise, yeah, 90% of them will learn to sell out someday,
> and do things they know are wrong in order to make a living, just like
> you and me and 90% of the other people in this completely fucked-up
> industry.
>
> But thank God for the other 10%.
See above, and those students are mostly using Linux as a server not as a
workstation or desktop.
> As for home users, much of what they do consists of (a) Web surfing,
> e-mail etc., (b) word processing, and (c) games. Few games support
> Linux yet, but they will, and in the other areas, the Linux offerings
> are already much more numerous and varied than the Windows
> alternatives.
Hmm... last time I checked I only know of 3 office suites 2 of which are
available for Windows. I don't want to do everything in EMACS or VI. Sorry I
need to be a LOT more productive than that.
> That will change. It's already changed enough that Linux is my
> primary platform. That wouldn't have been possible even a year ago.
Thats nice if you don't want to run many applications that mean something,
or if you want to keep using yesterday's technology.
> And as was always true of the Mac, for instance, there are just as
> many *good* apps available for either platform. There are more titles
> available for Windows, sure, but most of them frankly are of low
> quality. Windows itself is hacked-together crap, which mutates
> constantly and tends to break older programs. There is no need for
> Windows software to be more robust than the very buggy OS on which it
> runs, and furthermore, Windows programs tend to have short life cycles
> since "system upgrades" tend to break them. Thus, there is very
> little incentive for Windows developers to maximize quality. Users of
> Windows simply don't expect it. If they did, they woudln't be using
> Windows in the first place.
Blagh... sure man... and I bet you support OSS too...
Bill F.
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From: Bruce Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:03:27 +0000
> I agree that KDE's a bit of a hog, but I think it's more demanding of your
> video card and video memory than your CPU and its RAM. I think this is true
> of X in general, and KDE is a pretty fat incarnation of that. I have about
> half the machine you do, and KDE runs fine. I do get the occasional "color
> map" error, which doesn't happen when I switch to the leaner Windowmaker. I
> suspect that a better video card and more video memory would make menus and
> windows snappier, just as with Win 98. But, I don't think it has anything
> to do with the CPU.
>
> I like KDE a lot. It's still not as polished as Win/Mac in a usability
> sense, but with a little more work it could be right up there.
>
> Matt O.
I found that using KDE with WindowMaker has proven to be the best
looking and usable combination for myself. I don't notice any sort of
slowness, and the useability of kde along with WindowMaker prove to be a
time saver while still pleasing to the eyes.
my 2 cents.
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