Linux-Misc Digest #869, Volume #24 Mon, 19 Jun 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Regarding linux banner page printing (Justin B Willoughby)
Re: Installing Linux from a ZIP drive? (Peter Stark)
Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump (Robert Heller)
Re: Stability of the Culture of Helpfulness (pac4854)
Re: Installing Linux from a ZIP drive? (Peter Stark)
Re: named? (Guardian)
Porting from X86 to RISC Processor.. (shiv agarwal)
Re: net connection is very slow (root)
Re: Backup hard drive to CD directly with Linux Prog?? (Dances With Crows)
Online Man Page anywhere (Shumin Chang)
Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows (Oliver Baker)
Re: Good linux printer (Brian Hall)
Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump (Jonathan M Hill)
Re: Installing Linux from a ZIP drive? (Jonathan M Hill)
Re: linux as a gateway... (Rick Matthews)
Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RH6.2 - Odd problem with man files (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Very weird Netscape problem (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Online Man Page anywhere (Mark Bratcher)
Linux Was Already On The Desktops In 10% Of Companies One Year Ago! (Mark S. Bilk)
Re: mount question (rez)
Re: DSL under linux: Now working!!!! (Faheem Mitha)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Regarding linux banner page printing
Date: 20 Jun 2000 01:12:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Andrew Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> I can't help you with the 2-sides stuff, but the banner-page is probably
> generated by the printer and needs to be disabled there (in the printer's
> settings).
> We had this with our Laserjet 5M and managed to disable it.
Yes that banner page after the job has printed is coming from the
JetDirect card. You need to disable it there. Telnet to the print server
or use JetAdmin to configure/disable this.
- Justin
> anand wrote:
>
>> Dear linux enthusiasts,
>>
>> We have got a hp lj8100 series printer connected to jetdirect card
>> and i have configured samba printing in linux using this printer
>> and after every print job i get banner page .Pl suggest me to disable
>> the printer from printing banner and i want to have two-sided printing
>>
>> with regards
>> Anand
>>
>> --
>> Posted via CNET Help.com
>> http://www.help.com/
>
> --
> Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect, especially on my
> http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
> Simple Samba Solutions web page. ICQ 1722461
>
>
--
_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ = Justin Willoughby =
_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ = I use SlackWare!! =
_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ = http://justinw.net =
_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ =--- Jesus Is Lord ---=
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From: Peter Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux from a ZIP drive?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:36:14 -0400
The mini-howto for installing from a zip drive can be found (among other
places), at http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/ZIP-Install
andrey wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I have an old 486, it doesn't have a CD-ROM or a network card. I have
> RedHat 5.1 on CD and a parallel port ZIP drive. Can I install linux
> from the ZIP drive? If so, how?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrey.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 01:37:39 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on 18 Jun 2000 19:27:30 -0400, wrote :
m> [Snipped previous discussion of dump vs tar for linux]
m>
m> One problem I noticed it that Linux dump ONLY dumps complete filesystems, even
m> though the man page says it dumps filesystems and directories!
m>
m> I've got everything on one partition (/usr /home /etc...), but I only
m> want to backup /home. Is there an easy way to do this?
Ah, now you know why *some* people make lots of partitions -- it makes
backups so much easier!
m>
m> BTW, I also discovered that TAR has a 2GB file limit!!! So I can't use
m> this one either...
Only if you backup to a disk file. Dump has the same problem. Actually
it is neither tar nor dump. It is the file system. I believe it is
only the (current) x86 implementation of Ext2FS.
m>
m> Any help is appreciated,
m> Richard
m>
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Subject: Re: Stability of the Culture of Helpfulness
From: pac4854 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:38:01 -0700
This is bound to be as successful as fielding a new W2K network,
firing all your MCSEs, and just giving the end users the URL for
the MS knowledge base.
I hope this little endeavor goes tits up, and the morons in
charge end up homeless and unemployable.
Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.
Up to 100 minutes free!
http://www.keen.com
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From: Peter Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux from a ZIP drive?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:40:42 -0400
Whoops - I reversed what you were asking, and answered the question not
asked - "can linux be installed TO a zip drive"!
andrey wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I have an old 486, it doesn't have a CD-ROM or a network card. I have
> RedHat 5.1 on CD and a parallel port ZIP drive. Can I install linux
> from the ZIP drive? If so, how?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrey.
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From: Guardian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: named?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:51:50 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 Jun 2000 11:51:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Koos Pol) wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 04:51:51 -0400, Guardian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>|
>| # I need to direct named output to a log file not /var/log/messages
>|
>| # dis work?
>|
>| if [ -f /var/log/named.log ] ; then
>| /usr/sbin/named > /var/log/named.log 2>&1
>| else
>| touch /var/log/named.log && /usr/sbin/named > \
>| /var/log/named.log 2>&1
>| fi
>|
>|
>| # Guardian
>|
>
>
>Why don't you read the manpages? What do expect from us ?
>
>Koos Pol
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>S.C. Pol - Systems Administrator - Compuware Europe B.V. - Amsterdam
>T:+31 20 3116122 F:+31 20 3116200 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Check my email address when you hit "Reply".
There's one born everyday, Amsterdam is not exception.
Post a lame ass reply and you get flamed college boy.
The problem is what is wrong with the script?
I take it you don't know.
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From: shiv agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Porting from X86 to RISC Processor..
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:25:04 -0700
Hi,
Could some body help me finding the issues regarding porting drivers
from the Intel based (x86) processors to RISC based processors.
Please help me with the documents or URLs or ....
Thanks in advance,
Shiv
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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:51:40 -0400
From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: net connection is very slow
Ravi S Manda wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am pretty new to Linux. I have installed Mandrake 7.1 (linux 2.2.14)
> When I connect to the net (Freewwweb is the ISP) using a 56K modem and
> kppp, the connection tells me it connected at 50K. But when I bring up
> netscape, it takes 5 minutes to load http://www.linux-mandrake.com !!!
> It takes that much time, for almost any site on net.
>
> I tried tuning my irqs (giving higher interrupt for the modem) it still
> didn't imporove much. Is there anything I can do to get atleast 28.8 ?
> I have a P-III w/128MB ram.
>
> Thanks!
> -----
> -Ravi
I'm am pretty new to Linux myself. My solution to this problem was simple.
At the kppp setup screen change your connection speed to 115,200. When I
connect, it says I'm connected at 115,200 though I kinda doubt it. My
pages then loaded much faster.
Hope this helps.
Good luck,
Sid
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Backup hard drive to CD directly with Linux Prog??
Date: 19 Jun 2000 21:54:51 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 00:28:59 GMT, Glenn
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Hi,
>
>Is there a way to backup yor Linux partitions to a CD in one step? What
>about spanning multiple CDs?
Define "one step". I have a feeling multiple steps would be required, but
http://freshmeat.net/ has a number of CD-backup utilities that work with
the standard tar, mkisofs, and cdrecord tools to make backing up a system
onto multiple CDs a lot easier. Search for "CD Backup" and see what there
is...
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: Shumin Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Online Man Page anywhere
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:06:51 GMT
Hi,
I'm searching for the availability of online man page. Is it avaiable
anywhere?
Thanks
Shumin
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: Oliver Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:08:23 GMT
Doc Shipley wrote:
> Oliver, no offense, man, but you're not qualified to do what you're
> trying to do. You keep saying you're not a computer person, and that's
> painfully obvious. This is like a guy without a driver's license
> comparing Kenworth & Peterbilt. I'm not telling you to go away. We/I
> don't WANT to run you off. But you really need some personal
> understanding of the questions you're asking.
> At the very least, you need to start with a blank harddrive, a copy of
> Mandrake, SuSE, or RedHat, and a copy of NT. Workstation will do, Sever
> would be a better comparison. Install. Configure services. Write papers,
> play Freecell, dial up your ISP. Come back in two weeks.
As a science journalist, one doesn't always get to write about what one
knows about or get the time to walk 1000 miles in every relevant
persons' moccasins. You solicit quotes about what the bottom of their
moccasins look like, build a story out of those, and hope for the best.
Yes, there's something to be said for not getting in over your head, and
sometimes you can avoid it. My intuition is that I'll squeek by on this
one. I don't have to get any more technical than I see fit, and as I
appraise the mountain of my ignorance on this topic, I'd say I've stood
in deeper doodoo before.
Oliver Baker
.
.
.
.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Hall)
Subject: Re: Good linux printer
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:08:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lexmark Optra 40, color Postscript Level 2 inkjet. $100 on closeout from
buy.com, bought one myself. Works great with Linux.
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:53:46 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Sorry if I this question has been asked...
>
>I have a dual boot box with Linux/W98. I am planning to buy a printer
>that works on linux. I know that there are some win printers that do
>not work on linux.
>
>I am looking at spending something around $100. Can someone that has
>gone through this phase, update his experiences here so that would
>benefit me and others too.
--
http://www.bigfoot.com/~brihall
Linux Consultant
As a matter of fact, no, I don't have a life.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan M Hill)
Subject: Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump
Date: 20 Jun 2000 02:00:43 GMT
Robert Heller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Dump is OS and OS version dependent. Tar is cross-platform. Dump is faster.
Hello;
Because dump is low level and aware of file system details, not only
is dump dependent on the OS, it is also dependent on the file system.
What this means is that you cannot use the same Linux native dump to
backup your windows FAT partition.
: CM> In addition, the different backup levels of dump are confusing. Why ten
: CM> different levels? Why not just two (full and incremental)? And how does
: CM> the, "Tower of Hanoi algorithm," help maintain the integrity of one's
: CM> data backup?
Not only might your hard drive crash, if circumstances are bad, the backup
tape might get corrupted as well. My impression is that you don't want to
get caught with only one copy of a backup file that ends up being corrupted.
If you can guarantee that at the end of the week or at the end of the month
that you have two or more copies of each file, then you are in better shape.
By the way, cpio and find work together particularly well and can be
used to perform incremental backups. Gnu cpio will also access remote
drives.
Good luck;
Jonathan Hill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan M Hill)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux from a ZIP drive?
Date: 20 Jun 2000 02:08:29 GMT
Hello Andrey;
Sorry, I don't have a direct answer but I suggest that you
first look through the comments and FAQ at the parport website and
consider joining in on their email list.
http://www.torque.net/linux-pp.html
If you cannot find what you need in the FAQs and the like,
the email group is fairly active and should be able to help.
Jonathan Hill
andrey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Greetings!
:
: I have an old 486, it doesn't have a CD-ROM or a network card. I have
: RedHat 5.1 on CD and a parallel port ZIP drive. Can I install linux
: from the ZIP drive? If so, how?
:
: Thanks,
: Andrey.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: linux as a gateway...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Matthews)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:26:46 GMT
CME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can someone point me in the right direction for using my linux box
>as a gateway for the Winblows computers on my LAN?
http://www.linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: 19 Jun 2000 19:27:13 PST
In comp.os.linux.misc Oliver Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a science journalist, one doesn't always get to write about what one
> knows about or get the time to walk 1000 miles in every relevant
> persons' moccasins. You solicit quotes about what the bottom of their
> moccasins look like, build a story out of those, and hope for the best.
> Yes, there's something to be said for not getting in over your head, and
> sometimes you can avoid it. My intuition is that I'll squeek by on this
> one. I don't have to get any more technical than I see fit, and as I
> appraise the mountain of my ignorance on this topic, I'd say I've stood
> in deeper doodoo before.
If you are writing a story about Linux vs. Windows, and you have some time,
I recommend also doing some research on the history of Unix. Linux did not
just come out of nowhere. It is important to note that Linus was standing on
the shoulders of giants who toiled and strived perfect Unix. This 30 years of
work by the brightest minds in computer science must be included in your mind
hours equation.
Also, if you are going to compare Linux and Windows be sure to look deaper than
just comparing them as desktop systems -- it is essential that you consider
servers and there role in businesses and organizations. For example, ask the question
why is the Linux/Apache Web server software combination considered so far superior
to the Windows NT/IIS Web server software combination? Why is Linux growing so
fast especially in the server market? Why are businesses increasingly looking to
Linux for mission critical applications?
And don't forget that Linux is not just the command line. There are widely used
Windows managers that are as user-friendly as Windows 98.
--
Neil
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6.2 - Odd problem with man files
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:37:44 -0400
Eric Rountree wrote:
>
> Hello to all.
>
> I'm having an unusual problem with certain man files under RedHat
> Linux 6.2. If I type the command "man man" I get a blank screen with
> [END] at the bottom. Typing "q" will quit as usual. If I instead type
> "man /usr/man/man1/man.1.gz" then I get the man page for man as I
> would expect.
>
> I have the same problem with the man pages for "mount" and "umount." I
> haven't discovered any other man pages that behave this way.
[snip]
What is your MANPATH environment variable set to? Is it possible you
have other man pages in the path for man, mount, and umount?
Also, when you type "man man" do you initially see a "Formatting
page..." message?
--
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Very weird Netscape problem
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:39:03 -0400
Mike wrote:
>
> Every time I am running Netscape it is freezing my system. First, the
> system slows way down, then after about ten second freezes. The
> keyboard doesn't respond, I can't exit x-windows with
> cntrl-alt-backspace, and I can't even telnet into the computer from
> another machine on the network. After years of running linux with
> almost no system crashes, this is now bringing down the computer
> everytime.
>
> Any ideas? Any ideas on how to troubleshoot? Or do I just do a
> windows type solution and reinstall netscape??
What version of netscape are you running?
Have you tried doing a clean reinstall of netscape?
--
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Online Man Page anywhere
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:43:14 -0400
Shumin Chang wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm searching for the availability of online man page. Is it avaiable
> anywhere?
>
Have you looked under /usr/man/man* ?
--
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark S. Bilk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Linux Was Already On The Desktops In 10% Of Companies One Year Ago!
Date: 20 Jun 2000 02:46:29 GMT
By going to this web page, and clicking on the free data
link, one can access various industry surveys taken as late
as one year ago -- 2Q99 (more recent ones cost a dollar a
minute to access):
http://www.infotechtrends.com/freedemo.htm
Thanks to WhyteWolf for posting this one, which you get by
checking the "web" box:
99Q2 - Percent of Web servers using each operating system.
Percent of Web servers using each operating system.
Windows NT 26%
Linux 21%
Solaris 16%
BSDI 11%
SGI (IRIX) 9%
Free BSD 8%
JOURNAL/SOURCE/TITLE DATE PAGE
VARBUSINESS/ 12-Apr-99 58 Netcraft/
*GENERATION LINUX - NIPPING NT's HEELS
So, Linux had almost caught up to Windows NT in web server
market share a year ago, and the most popular Unix systems
combined exceeded NT's share by 2.5 to 1 (.65/.26).
But if you instead check the boxes for "software" and
"systems", you can get this report:
99Q2 - Percent of information technology managers using
or planning to use Linux as a general purpose desktop
or workstation operating system.
Currently Use 10%
Use Within 12 Months 20%
No Plans 68%
Don't Know 1%
JOURNAL/SOURCE/TITLE DATE PAGE
VARBUSINESS/ 12-Apr-99 54 InformationWeek/
*GENERATION LINUX - NEXT STOP: DESKTOP
One year ago, when KDE and Gnome, along with hardware and
installation support, were much less developed than they
are now, Linux was already in use on the desktop/workstation
computers of 10% of all businesses. The figure may now
be 30%, if the managers planning to switch to Linux have
followed through.
GNU/Linux/OSS is not only growing in market share, it is so
much fun to use and to develop software for that many thou-
sands of people are working to improve the operating system
and the applications, and to add new apps. There are hundreds
of such projects with teams of people working on them. Almost
all are independent of any corporation and are under the GPL,
so as long as *anyone* is interested in them, the work will
continue.
For those who want to use various MS-Windows software, some
of which is not yet ported or functionally duplicated for
Linux, there are three systems that will allow Linux to run
some of it -- Wine (free), VMware ($99 for personal use),
and Trelos Win4Lin ($49, like VMware with easier file access
but no sound support). These three systems are constantly
being improved.
The next LinuxWorld Conference and Expo is August 14-17 in
San Jose, Calif. The last one was huge! Meet Linus and RMS.
Pet a real penguin! Register now to get in to the exhibits
(Aug. 15-17) for free ($25 at the door).
http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/
Life is good!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rez)
Subject: Re: mount question
Date: 20 Jun 2000 02:47:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:30:05 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I couldn't figure this out reading man mount: How do I set up my fstab
>file so that the floppy will mount both a ext2 and a vfat filesystem
>floppy. CAn I set it up so that it will work with whatever I stick in the
>drive?
[~] rez_1$: cat /etc/fstab|greb /fd
/dev/fd0 /a auto noauto,user,sync,errors=continue 0 0
/dev/fd1 /b auto noauto,user,sync,errors=continue 0 0
Type, also by user, "mount /a" to mount and go on ;-)
--
Ci sentiamo | Remigio Zedda
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ciao Remigio | kernel 2.2.13 su Slack 7.0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Faheem Mitha)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: DSL under linux: Now working!!!!
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:01:03 GMT
On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 04:11:14 GMT, Rod Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[Posted and mailed]
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Cameron, Gary [WDLN2:2X82:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snipped]
I didn't see the documentation, since I installed from the .rpm
>> file, which automagically buried it in /usr/docs or something like
>> that.
[snipped]
>If you're looking for something that should have been installed with an
>RPM file, you can use the following command to see what files the RPM
>installed:
>
>rpm -ql foo
>
>This shows you a list of the files in the foo package. You may want to
>pipe the result through less if the list is long:
>
>rpm -ql foo | less
>
>Alternatively, if you're looking for specific files, like files that may
>go in the /usr/doc directory, you can use grep to isolate just those
>files:
>
>rpm -ql foo | grep doc
[snipped]
Or, in a more primitive fashion, you could use the locate command,
which I find invaluable and use more than any other search-type
command.
$ locate blah | less
gives you the names of all files and directories which contain blah
anywhere in their absolute path name, piped through less. Patterns may
also include metacharacters like *. So
$locate *doc*foo*
would probably give you all the doc files in package foo, possibly
along with a lot of other junk (I admit) depending on foo. But it
still tends to be an extremely fast way of finding files you want, and
works even if the package was not installed by rpm. See man locate.
Faheem.
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