Linux-Misc Digest #869, Volume #21 Sun, 19 Sep 99 14:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (Brett Rosselle)
Re: Diamond Viper V770 16MB (Matt Gullam)
Bug Life Cycle Model ("Yaron Sinai")
Re: hdparm and DMA (Andrei A. Dergatchev)
Re: Screen resolution (Robert Heller)
Re: Please Help with RPM (Jeff Goodman)
Re: File permissions when mounting vfat or msdos partition (Leonard Evens)
Re: WIN95/LINUX (Leonard Evens)
Re: MP3 players (Rowin Warin Andruscavage)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Pieter Wenk)
Hard disk has died (trashed partition table???) ("Oliver B. Tupman")
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Pieter Wenk)
Re: licq (Raj Rijhwani)
Re: licq (Raj Rijhwani)
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From: Brett Rosselle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 15:34:42 +0000
Nah, it wasn't you. It happened quite a bit on the WindowMaker mailing list
though. I'm not exactly an expert, but I'm not a newbie either. With all of the
features that are incorporated into some window managers thse days, the lines
between window managers and desktop environments is becoming increasingly blurred.
At least it is to me.
Maybe that's due to a lack of understanding on my part.
Brett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:57:01 +0000, Brett Rosselle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >On a side note, I have been beaten up repeatedly (not here) for calling
> >KDE/Gnome window managers. It has been pointed out to me that they are in fact
> >a desktop environment that run on top of whatever window manager you choose to
> >run. If you really want speed, run WindowMaker by itself without KDE or
> >Gnome.
> >
>
> Did I beat you up?
> I didn't try to beat you up.
> I'm actually quite a nice guy. :-)
>
> Robert
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From: Matt Gullam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Diamond Viper V770 16MB
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 16:37:42 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
boothie wrote:
>
> It's my first attempt at setting Linux up. I have Caldera's Open Linux 2.2
> and can't seem to get it to work with my graphics card (Diamond Viper V770
> 16MB). Should I download the Nvidia X server stuff?
yes
--
Matt Gullam
Kill the earwigs to reply.
"And what will Father Christmas bring, if everyone's gone shoplifting?
And you know the saddest thing, of all, is that there's nothing worth
stealing anymore."
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From: "Yaron Sinai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bug Life Cycle Model
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 17:23:33 -0000
The Bug Life Cycle Model will help you to leverage your product development
process and will
assist you in building bug free products.
The Bug Life Cycle Model can be found in:
http://qadb.com/cgi-bin/demo/enterdemo.exe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei A. Dergatchev)
Subject: Re: hdparm and DMA
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 15:46:44 GMT
Hi,
Not of any help, I just wanted to add that I have similar
problem with 2 versions of Slackware (!). Slackware 3.4
didn't have problems to enable DMA for my Western
Digital drive, however when I was planning to upgade
to Slack 4.0, I found that it doesn't like DMA of the same
HDD :-(
I posted here about that and didn't get any reply. I suppose
it should be something to do with deep kernel issues of
DMA support ?
Andrei
On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 04:32:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'm having trouble enabling DMA in SuSe 6.2. During startup it tells me
>that it's disabled in bios, but at post it lists UDMA2 enabled. If I
>try to enable it using hdparm I get "Operation not permitted." I was
>able to enable it in Mandrake 6.0 on the same computer without
>problems. This machines statistics:
>
>K6-400
>64MB-Ram
>GA-5AA motherboard
>Maxtor DiamondMax Plus (10.2GB, 7200 RPM)
>
>I've been able to enable other items using hdparm, this has boosted me
>from 6.0MB to about 8.0MB/sec (did not try it when in Mandrake, but
>other machine with a Fireball KA gets almost 20MB). That would be ok on
>this machine, but I'd like to not have my cpu pegged at 100% while
>copying.
>
>Eric
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screen resolution
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 15:51:35 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner),
In a message on Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:18:52 -0500, wrote :
RS> Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RS> spake unto us, saying:
RS>
RS> >*Somebody* needs to seriously re-write xf86config or Xconfigurator....
RS> >
RS> >Both xf86config and Xconfigurator write the screen resolutions from
RS> >fewest to most pixels and the X server always uses the first viable
RS> >resolution it finds.
RS>
RS> Sure, but xf86config already provides the option to reorder the video
RS> resolutions near the end before you save the results. Has for years;
RS> it's just not obvious to new users.
Same difference -- xf86config *still* needs fixing, if only to make it
more 'obvious to new users'. Although I expect more people are using
Xconfigurator these days.
RS>
RS> --
RS> -Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
RS> OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
RS> + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
RS> Sure... Now he tells me...
RS>
--
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Jeff Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please Help with RPM
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 09:27:11 -0700
SuSE 6.x/YAST shines here. Just pop SuSE #1 CD-ROM into the drive, pick
"Choose/Install packages" from the menu, the pick "Change/create
configuration." You'll get a complete picture of all packages
installed, and available to be installed. Just pick any uninstalled
packages that you want to install from the list, F10 your way back to
the menu, pick "Start installation," and YAST will do the rest.
Jeff
Jill wrote:
>
> I installed only the command line version of RH 5.2 with the purpose of
> running Oracle 8. I ommitted some packages due to disk space limitations.
> I now find that I have enough diskspace to add the windowing environment and
> apache.
> But I am totally confused as to how to go about doing this. The RPM
> syntax confuses me. Could someone explain to me, at least in general terms,
> or even better, specfic terms, what I am doing?
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Jill C.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File permissions when mounting vfat or msdos partition
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:27:57 -0500
BJW7TOAEM wrote:
>
> I am running Red Hat 6 on my system. I have Linux on one partition and another
> partition I use for Windows. I mount the windows partition to /mnt/c but only
> root can write to it and I would like to make it so other users can write to
> it. How do I change the permissions, so that other users can write to the
> windows partition when it is mounted in Linux? Thanks in advance for your
> answers!
>
> -John
> John H.
> Twinkling Of An Eye Ministries Web Site
> http://members.aol.com/BJW7TOAEM/index.html
You've got several suggestions about how to do it. But ask yourself
if you really want to. It is a nuisance to have to become root
to write to the Windows partition, but you certainly don't want
to write to it by accident when you are doing something else.
Personally I like the extra feeling of danger when I am root
and am fiddling with my Windows partition. It makes me more
careful.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WIN95/LINUX
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:34:26 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I am making my first installation of LINUX (5.2) and want two partitions
> in my hardisk, one for WINDOWS 95 and the other for LINUX. I am trying
> several times the installation but when reboot the system it tells me
> LIL and does not continue. WHAT IS HAPPENING? or HOW DO I HAVE TO MAKE
> THE INSTALLATION.
>
> THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.
>
> CARLOS.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
If you made a boot floppy during installation, you may be
able to boot from it. If you can, logina as root and run
the programs
fdisk -l
and
more /etc/lilo.conf
and let us know what they say.
But I would guess you have made a partitioning error of some
sort, and you won't be able to boot from a floppy either.
You can do a custom installation and run the fdisk program
during installation. Again if you let us know what it shows
we might be able to help you.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Rowin Warin Andruscavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MP3 players
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 12:44:48 -0400
gqmpeg is a nice frontend to mpg123. I've found it to have fewer
problems than XMMS under certain conditions (doesn't skip under esd,
plays weird bitrates / mp2's without complications, doesn't complain
about having the wrong output plugin)
http://gqview.netpedia.net/
--
<8X- Rowin Andruscavage http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/rwa2
I hate dying.
-- Dave Johnson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pieter Wenk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: 19 Sep 1999 16:08:33 GMT
In article <7rmk1l$u74$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Gentry) writes:
>
> The problem arises, however, when things get so user-friendly that
> it is no longer possible to "do things the way you think they
> should". Take, for instance, Windows. There are many things that are
> totally and completely shielded from any user, much less the advanced one.
>
> User Friendliness comes at a price.
The development of Linux will definitely require user friendliness. I guess
distribitors such as Red Hat, SuSE etc., are aware about this fact. It can
just not go anymore, that in order to configure, let's say, an Internet-Con-
necton, or a printer, you can get a nice, nifty day job.
It's not only done, with easy installation....The question is, what's coming
after...and here sorry, but Linux still hangs ages behind Windows.
To that, add the apps. Many of theese apps, have first to be compiled, prior
installation....Perhaps somebody can tell me why it should not be possible
to include in a gz file, the whole app "with" the binary together with a
sort of installation script or something like an installation shield.
Regards.
--
/ / (_)____ __ ____ __
Pieter Wenk / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Vevey/Switzerland
/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
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From: "Oliver B. Tupman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hard disk has died (trashed partition table???)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 18:05:18 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi there,
I turned my PC on this morning, it booted up as normal and delivered me
to my log-in prompt.
I entered my username and pressed enter, and nothing happened apart
from the hard drive light came on.
After a little while I got the following messages:
EXF-fs error (device ide0(3.74)): ext2_check_inodes_bitmap_wrong free
inodes count in grup=6, stored = 1, counted = 0
read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error}
read_intr: error=0x00 {}
recal_intr: status=0x31
There were more errors but they flew past at the speed of light and I
was
unable to write 'em down. I then rebooted but the same errors come up as
Linux tried to fsck the partitions.
I therefore downloaded a copy of tomsrtbt ( a micro-distribution) and
booted
up my PC with that.
When I run the command 'fdisk -l' I get the following information
about the hard drive.
Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 778 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512
Device Boot Start End Blocks System
/dev/hdb1 * 1 192 1542208+ Linux native
/dev/hdb2 193 779 4709880 Extended
Partition 2 does not end of cylinder boundary:
phys(778, 89, 63) should be (778, 254, 63)
/dev/hdb5 193 25 514045+ Linux native
/dev/hdb6 257 283 211645+ Linux native
/dev/hdb7 283 303 158728+ Linux native
/dev/hdb8 303 316 105808+ Linux native
/dev/hdb9 316 324 68008+ Linux swap
/dev/hdb10 324 344 158728+ Linux native
/dev/hdb11 344 472 1028128+ Win95 FAT32
/dev/hdb12 472 603 1050808+ Linux native
I'm wondering whether the problem is that error given for 'Partition
2'?
Also, if I try to attempt to install a second copy of Linux to the
1 GB of space left on the drive, the partition creation dies!
So how do I go about fixing my hard drive!?!
All the data I _really_ want is on /dev/hdb12, so if I can get that
off (onto a Zip drive) then that'd be all right. If I need to kill
all the other partitions on hdb (apart from hdb12) so I can get
the data on hdb12 off, then I suppose I'd have to do it!
Another observation is that whenever a program attempts to access
the damaged part of the hard drive, it says that hdb isn't ready
for any commands and that the ide0 reset times out!
Thanks in advance to all those who respond.
Cheers,
Oliver B. Tupman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pieter Wenk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: 19 Sep 1999 16:18:24 GMT
In article <7s0hge$9to$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> My experience has typically been, "I downloaded it, but nothing
> happened." Users don't understand the difference between
> "downloading" and "installing." If they understood this difference,
> they could be using the software, but no, expecting them to understand
> this is "elitism."
>
> So I try to explain, they don't wanna know, just want me to fix it. So
> I hunt for the file ("Where did you download it?" "Whaddya mean? It's
> on the hard drive.") and install the thing.
Well I installed now a little bit more, that a month a SuSE 6.1 box on
my machine. Fine I undertand the difference between "download", "compiling" and
installation.
But, I am still amazed, that within the Linux-world, it still did not ring,
that today it should be possible to get these downlaoded apps. "complet", ie.
with the "binaries". This compiling process, should in fact become obsolete.
Today it should be possible to get apps. ready to be installed....
Regards.
--
/ / (_)____ __ ____ __
Pieter Wenk / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Vevey/Switzerland
/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raj Rijhwani)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: licq
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 99 03:05:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Tim Haynes" writes:
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> Raj Rijhwani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> doodled in uk.comp.os.linux:
>
> > I installed (from a binary distribution), and had working, licq (0.61) the
> > weekend before last. When I came to use it this week, it fails to logon
> > to the server with "Bad UDP version no".
> Is this repeatable?
Absolutely. I can't get the damned thing to log on at all. Whereas MICQ
which I installed at the same time runs perfecly well both in console
shell or xterm.
> > I know there's a new version been released this week (0.70) but I can't
> > compile it (threads library not installed). , and there doesn't seem to be a
> > binsry distribution (yet?).
> Ha, is now.. ;8)
Good-o
> > I can't think that I've changed anything in the intervening 10 days, nor can
> > I find any reference to the error in the licq docs or pages around the
> > place.
> I'm inclined to suggest a temporary glitch, unless it ain't temporary.
Doesn't seem temporary, at all.
> > Suggestions?
>
> I just knocked up a binary (latest Debian potato, but I made it a static one
> so should run anyplace) - check out
> http://www.glutinous.custard.org/temp/licq.gz - unproven (very limited
> testing), but who knows? :)
> FWIW:
> zsh, spodzone 5:20PM temp % md5sum licq.gz
> 27d6041203fb84c7734fa00eb53e87b5 licq.gz
> zsh, spodzone 5:20PM temp %
>
> - --
> ~Tim
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Raj Rijhwani (umtsb5/16) | This is the voice of the Mysterons...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ... We know that you can hear us Earthmen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Lieutenant Green: Launch all Angels!"
http://www.courtfld.demon.co.uk/raj/ (demon, and gods, willing...)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raj Rijhwani)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: licq
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 99 05:06:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Tim Haynes" writes:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> Raj Rijhwani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> doodled in uk.comp.os.linux:
>
> > I installed (from a binary distribution), and had working, licq (0.61) the
> > weekend before last. When I came to use it this week, it fails to logon
> > to the server with "Bad UDP version no".
>
> Is this repeatable?
>
> > I know there's a new version been released this week (0.70) but I can't
> > compile it (threads library not installed). , and there doesn't seem to be a
> > binsry distribution (yet?).
>
> Ha, is now.. ;8)
Well, sort of. You've compiled the binary of licq itself (thanks) and
with much re-arranging of the config directory (as per the UPGRADE)
document, and even more poking around in the config file (unlike the
upgrade notes) I managed to stop all the startup error messages bar one -
it won't start, because there's no GUI plugin, which I can't compile
for myself because there's no libintl.h (whatever that is).
--
Raj Rijhwani (umtsb5/16) | This is the voice of the Mysterons...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ... We know that you can hear us Earthmen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Lieutenant Green: Launch all Angels!"
http://www.courtfld.demon.co.uk/raj/ (demon, and gods, willing...)
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